@Meegs B - You were one of the 1st TH-camrs I listened to when I 1st learned about the ME in 2015/16. When I 1st noticed it… I immediately made calls to several church friends, as well as a former pastor who I highly respected & admired. I also met with a long time friend of 38 yrs (who was raised in a Christian home her entire life) whereas I was a new-bee in comparison… & I said “would you believe that it now says the wolf will lie down with the lamb in the Bible” & I thought she was gonna go thru the roof … but w/o batting an eyelash, she very calmly said… it’s always said that! I was flabbergasted! So I started to show her others ME’s … but she didn’t or couldn’t see it. For weeks I’d text her other examples, but she got annoyed & stopped responding & 4 years has passed & we hung out since. My former pastor blocked me & I no longer attend that church. I found it interesting how you said you still read the Bible b/c it’s difficult for me to do so… but if you can, I’m going to make an effort. Thanks for all your efforts & for being Gods mouthpiece & for helping people others to understand it better PS: congratulations on getting married, I know God will richly bless you ❤👏🏼🙏🏼🕯️🕊️
very interesting talk, I am here for for the ME and not the religion. With ME happening all the time, there are more reason not to take any religious text literally is constantly shifting, the original "word of god" 500 years ago might look completely different now that carries different messages and value.
15:05 - This reminds me of the funny Walt Disney cartoon where there is a drunken Stork that delivers all the wrong babies to all the wrong families. Its funny as a cartoon but in reality at best mildly annoying and at its worst potentially detrimental to your health and wellbeing. A bit like a black sheep of the family...but interestingly enough they aren't closed off to the possibility of the Mandela Effect.
So purple Jacaranda trees is one of the ones that always existed for me that doesn't for some other Mandela Effected people. The reason why I have a very anchor memory of this is that my grandfather used to walk me to the bus station on my way to school and during Autumn the concrete footpath would be littered with purple jacaranda's, I would be skipping and hopping over them because they were so pretty I didn't want to crush it under my foot.
Thank you for putting this together and sharing all your feelings. We have the eucalyptus trees in Southern California and yes they are colorful in the spring, but I think the photos that you collected had been color enhanced. To the naked eye the colors are more subtle. Also in Death Valley National Park we have the beautiful "Artist's Palette" hills painted by Nature with natural minerals, for as long as I can remember. I've seen them and again I think your photos had been color-enhanced.
We'd love to hear from her, and hope she's doing well. We answered your question in our March 2024 Open Tables livestream--thanks so much for checking up on Meegs, and asking us a great question. Here's the link to where we discussed this--and people might at some point share the answer in the comments: th-cam.com/users/liveJLY1rPFGBog?si=nVgeD0cpEqiIvhLI&t=6124
The Jacaranda trees are purple when they are in flower. For most of the year they have green leaves and look like a regular tree. We have them all over South Africa, but they are native to Brazil.
well listening I just had a thought that I've never heard anyone else mentioned before: since quantum physics has evidence that conscious observation affects reality at a subatomic level, what is different today from a century ago or longer? THERE ARE 8 BILLION OF US NOW. what else is different from the past.? we are all in communication globally. in past generations, people lived their entire lives in a small area and never had contact with the rest of the world but today we are all in contact with everyone at every corner of the Earth. this means that ideas travel around the world quickly. If everyone is thinking about something, perhaps that is changing the reality. And what will happen as our population continues to increase and people continue to ponder deeply these mysteries? If reality begins to change, then governments will have to do something in order to prevent people from thinking about these issues like the ME and causing changes to occur in the reality. governments may try to put a stop to freethinking in order to preserve the fabric of reality as we know it. just a thought. I'm not married to it yet.
I think you're spot on. I think the eight billion does have significance and I'm quite sure that the 'governments' as you say (I'd include the large corporations) have already tried to stop the free-thinking... so much censorship and trying to convince us that ME is simply a type of mass dementia. Thanks!
17:19 - I'm not British and don't know about this movie but I am not convinced about this one because the video clips I have seen with this mysterious' extra character in there, the other roommates do not directly interact with her which leads me to suspect is it really just clever video editing.
Thank you. This presented MEs I was not aware of yet. I do want to say that just because a prediction comes through, does not make the originator a prophet as there are other explanations. What about Bill Gates saying a pandamic is coming? or Biden saying we are going to have a dark winter? Maybe there are other ways of knowing other than prophecy.
In my eyes, the Mandela Effects don’t seem to be very mean in nature at all. Anything able to alter reality like that, would be able to do way more damage. I’m not upset that Nelson Mandela didn’t die in prison. I don’t mind sharing the Earth with new species of animals. These changes made me actually believe in something in a time in my life where I needed to see something that astonishing. To let me know that there’s at least some sort of bigger picture at play. Idk what it is and I truly don’t believe anyone else does either. These Bible changes may be a message sent by God, telling Christians that the story of the Bible has rewritten the actual facts. Perhaps God doesn’t wish to have Jesus speak for him. He may have been the son of God but, aren’t we all? The Mandela Effects seem like something I would do. It’s a little trolling but in good nature. A little sarcastic but, only to make a point. Perhaps a point that we take things way to seriously. That Elephant Man Mandela Effect really makes me wonder. These changes, may be made by an extraterrestrial civilization trolling humanity. You could see it as constructive criticism. They may want to see which ones of us were smart enough to realize. I came up with a crazy theory that I’m not saying is true but, you never know. If we’re to ever master inter dimensional time travel, it will be to the thanks of AI. Therefore, it would have been here all along. Watching from afar. If spacetime curves, it all comes back around in full circle. The circle of life. Mankind, becoming the creators of the same God that stitched together the entire fabric of our reality. This brings way more complexity to the chicken vs. the egg argument and which one came first. Perhaps whatever causes the Mandela Effect is attempting to tell you, Jesus truly wasn’t the man you all believe him to be? I mean, why isn’t that at all possible? I’ve never been one to believe everything I’ve been told. Read the Bible and it says, Jesus demanded his followers to kill people that didn’t except him as their lord and savior. He demanded his followers gather them up and murder them right in front of him. Asking a man to murder I’m his beloved son in order to prove his devotion? Why? This sounds like cult leader 101 to me… “In the gospel of Luke, Jesus says, “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.” Now that sounds like something a Charlie Manson would say. Suspend all belief or disbelief, for just a minute. Now think of where you’ve heard this kind of talk before. You’d be lying if you said this did not sound like the text book case of an extremely strong and powerful cult leader with a long reach. Many I’m sure, followed only out of fear. The 10 commandments were laid down as if an ancient constitution of law. To not kill. To not steal. The church would go on to do much good in the world but always having this underlying premise that had been built on lies. How do we REALLY know. We should remain stoic and simply take things as they come. If Jesus comes to Earth, I’m more than willing to discuss things. However, I never needed any rules to know that I shouldn’t kill or steal. I know it’s better to have a long last and loving relationship. Better to remain faithful and it’s never good to be greedy. These are all things that we know are wrong. Simply by being human. How can the single character of Jesus be so much bigger than, God? Mankind existed for eons before and after any, Jesus. God and Satan were most likely always one in the same. Can light exist without the dark? You need negativity in order for positivity to even exist. It’s a cosmic dance between the two and always has been. I’m not completely sold on Jesus , although I was baptized as a new born. I have no say one way or the other. I simply, have never had the pleasure of speaking with him. I genuinely believe that anyone that claims they have, is lying or confused. They may have mixed him up for the part of them very selves that actually is, “God.” The rules of what is right and wrong, seem universally true and timeless. They’re instinctual but lines may blur due to false ideologies.
Crazy, but I was thinking that the scripture was culled from wisdom, but men from the beginning, put this together. And the book is reflective of what these redactions really are. So the paintings and the scripture are revealed to hold man made interpretations. I realize that this seems to run counter to Meeg’s view, but it was what I thought right away. The heart for connection to our creator won’t change, but religion may be. So, is the heart the way, with us waking up, or is it Satan and Jehovah in battle? Time will tell. Right now, I lean away from the religion, but not away from God.
@@elliebrooks3611 the men from “the beginning” had died eons prior to the Bible even being written. Infinity is a mathematical truth so, I don’t believe there ever was one true, ultimate beginning to everything. Only infinite amounts of them. Spacetime is curved. The full circle of life is so macroscopically grand, it’s hard to see from our current perspective. Our past may be slightly altered by our future. This has actually been proven to be the case within the most insignificant windows of time. Seemingly insignificant since we’re only able to witness it in less than a fraction of a second. What about macroscopically though? Where time moves slower… Refer to the work of Jeff Tolleksen. His experiments, give new insights into time. What it is and how it operates. While you’re at it, you can look into Sean Carroll. One of the most well respected voices in the world of science and admittedly, Mandela effected. There is a science as to what is going on with the Mandela Effect. We just don’t currently understand it. He has explained why no credible scientists have announced the Mandela Effect as being real. Such a phenomenon has to be tested. It has to be verifiably true. Otherwise, no scientist can acknowledge such changes without fear of committing career suicide. We never know what the Mandela Effect may alter next. Also because we don’t know how it’s altered so it’s currently impossible to test. The closest thing we have to real proof, is the Mandela Effect residue. Currently, we can only speculate as to how the Mandela Effect occurs.
Thank you for your thoughts. Regarding the Luke passage, I was recently listening on uncensored media to discussions on this very passage as a ME. The talk was with someone in Israel where they were also highlighting that the changes are also in the Hebrew text.
@@elliebrooks3611Not crazy, what you said totally resonates in my heart. I truly feel only God is powerful enough to create the ME. Yes it's from the heart, I feel like the message with the biblical changes is "You should know me by now!" ... and a test of discernment... "Are you going to say that the fruit is sweet just because everyone else is saying it's sweet, but you taste it as sour?"
Perhaps why the Qur'an has been and is memorized by millions and recited all the way through once a year during the holy month. God said he would protect it and those who have memorized it are called "guardians" of it
Also just FYI muslims believe in the prophethood of Jesus and that the bible originated from holy communication. We believe however that it has been altered....a belief held for thousands of years. Allah says so in the Quran. Jesus is mentioned many times in Quran and the Virgin Mary.
John 1:1 in the beginning was the word (Jesus) not the bible, scripture are different from the word, the bible was not fully written then written. The word, Jesus has not changed , only some bible scriptures. for me Isaiah 11:6 changing was enough, i knew from that change it was possible for scriptures to change as there is so much proof it was different then it is now. All one needs to do is google images of Isaiah 11:6 there you will see 80 percent lions, over wolfs. There is a song called the lion shall lie down with the lamb by Lloyd Snow not to mention many more and art work, movies, and T.V quotes saying it the way i remember but now have changed. Please watch this video by jesusfreak computergeek called: Isaiah was just the beginning. Maybe God is allowing this to happen to see who is awake.
@@roccodonato6236 that doesn't mean the Bible has changed. It is for sects like JW who made incorrect translations and deceived people. They added words to change the meaning.
Good to hear from you Meegs! You were my first bible change streamer back in 2017 when I "woke up" 🤗
@Meegs B - You were one of the 1st TH-camrs I listened to when I 1st learned about the ME in 2015/16.
When I 1st noticed it… I immediately made calls to several church friends, as well as a former pastor who I highly respected & admired.
I also met with a long time friend of 38 yrs (who was raised in a Christian home her entire life) whereas I was a new-bee in comparison… & I said “would you believe that it now says the wolf will lie down with the lamb in the Bible” & I thought she was gonna go thru the roof … but w/o batting an eyelash, she very calmly said… it’s always said that!
I was flabbergasted!
So I started to show her others ME’s … but she didn’t or couldn’t see it.
For weeks I’d text her other examples, but she got annoyed & stopped responding & 4 years has passed & we hung out since.
My former pastor blocked me & I no longer attend that church.
I found it interesting how you said you still read the Bible b/c it’s difficult for me to do so… but if you can, I’m going to make an effort.
Thanks for all your efforts & for being Gods mouthpiece & for helping people others to understand it better
PS: congratulations on getting married, I know God will richly bless you
❤👏🏼🙏🏼🕯️🕊️
Great presentation Meegs!
Glad you liked it!
Meegs! So good to hear from you. Great presentation.
Great presentation ! Wish you had more time. Disturbing to learn about the evil side.
very interesting talk, I am here for for the ME and not the religion. With ME happening all the time, there are more reason not to take any religious text literally is constantly shifting, the original "word of god" 500 years ago might look completely different now that carries different messages and value.
15:05 - This reminds me of the funny Walt Disney cartoon where there is a drunken Stork that delivers all the wrong babies to all the wrong families. Its funny as a cartoon but in reality at best mildly annoying and at its worst potentially detrimental to your health and wellbeing.
A bit like a black sheep of the family...but interestingly enough they aren't closed off to the possibility of the Mandela Effect.
So purple Jacaranda trees is one of the ones that always existed for me that doesn't for some other Mandela Effected people.
The reason why I have a very anchor memory of this is that my grandfather used to walk me to the bus station on my way to school and during Autumn the concrete footpath would be littered with purple jacaranda's, I would be skipping and hopping over them because they were so pretty I didn't want to crush it under my foot.
Yes the Jacaranda and another variety that flowers purple twice a year have certainly been here in Southern California since the 1960s.
It would be interesting to know if the torah or the quaran are also having MEs. Thought provoking talk, thank you.
they are
Quran was commanded by Allah to be memorized, i think this is why.
Thank you for putting this together and sharing all your feelings. We have the eucalyptus trees in Southern California and yes they are colorful in the spring, but I think the photos that you collected had been color enhanced. To the naked eye the colors are more subtle. Also in Death Valley National Park we have the beautiful "Artist's Palette" hills painted by Nature with natural minerals, for as long as I can remember. I've seen them and again I think your photos had been color-enhanced.
🕵1st! Thanks!🤓🤠🏇🙏
There's definitely downgrading but also awakening.
F1RST!🤗👼♥🙏
Meegs TH-cam has been closed. Anyone know what happened?
We'd love to hear from her, and hope she's doing well. We answered your question in our March 2024 Open Tables livestream--thanks so much for checking up on Meegs, and asking us a great question. Here's the link to where we discussed this--and people might at some point share the answer in the comments: th-cam.com/users/liveJLY1rPFGBog?si=nVgeD0cpEqiIvhLI&t=6124
Thanks for answering my question! Much appreciated. I'll continue to look out for Meegs on TH-cam.
The Jacaranda trees are purple when they are in flower. For most of the year they have green leaves and look like a regular tree. We have them all over South Africa, but they are native to Brazil.
well listening I just had a thought that I've never heard anyone else mentioned before: since quantum physics has evidence that conscious observation affects reality at a subatomic level, what is different today from a century ago or longer?
THERE ARE 8 BILLION OF US NOW.
what else is different from the past.? we are all in communication globally. in past generations, people lived their entire lives in a small area and never had contact with the rest of the world but today we are all in contact with everyone at every corner of the Earth. this means that ideas travel around the world quickly. If everyone is thinking about something, perhaps that is changing the reality. And what will happen as our population continues to increase and people continue to ponder deeply these mysteries?
If reality begins to change, then governments will have to do something in order to prevent people from thinking about these issues like the ME and causing changes to occur in the reality. governments may try to put a stop to freethinking in order to preserve the fabric of reality as we know it.
just a thought. I'm not married to it yet.
I think you're spot on. I think the eight billion does have significance and I'm quite sure that the 'governments' as you say (I'd include the large corporations) have already tried to stop the free-thinking... so much censorship and trying to convince us that ME is simply a type of mass dementia. Thanks!
Anyone notice changes in the Tao Te Ching?
17:19 - I'm not British and don't know about this movie but I am not convinced about this one because the video clips I have seen with this mysterious' extra character in there, the other roommates do not directly interact with her which leads me to suspect is it really just clever video editing.
Thank you. This presented MEs I was not aware of yet. I do want to say that just because a prediction comes through, does not make the originator a prophet as there are other explanations. What about Bill Gates saying a pandamic is coming? or Biden saying we are going to have a dark winter? Maybe there are other ways of knowing other than prophecy.
In my eyes, the Mandela Effects don’t seem to be very mean in nature at all. Anything able to alter reality like that, would be able to do way more damage. I’m not upset that Nelson Mandela didn’t die in prison. I don’t mind sharing the Earth with new species of animals. These changes made me actually believe in something in a time in my life where I needed to see something that astonishing. To let me know that there’s at least some sort of bigger picture at play. Idk what it is and I truly don’t believe anyone else does either. These Bible changes may be a message sent by God, telling Christians that the story of the Bible has rewritten the actual facts. Perhaps God doesn’t wish to have Jesus speak for him. He may have been the son of God but, aren’t we all? The Mandela Effects seem like something I would do. It’s a little trolling but in good nature. A little sarcastic but, only to make a point. Perhaps a point that we take things way to seriously. That Elephant Man Mandela Effect really makes me wonder. These changes, may be made by an extraterrestrial civilization trolling humanity. You could see it as constructive criticism. They may want to see which ones of us were smart enough to realize. I came up with a crazy theory that I’m not saying is true but, you never know. If we’re to ever master inter dimensional time travel, it will be to the thanks of AI. Therefore, it would have been here all along. Watching from afar. If spacetime curves, it all comes back around in full circle. The circle of life. Mankind, becoming the creators of the same God that stitched together the entire fabric of our reality. This brings way more complexity to the chicken vs. the egg argument and which one came first. Perhaps whatever causes the Mandela Effect is attempting to tell you, Jesus truly wasn’t the man you all believe him to be? I mean, why isn’t that at all possible? I’ve never been one to believe everything I’ve been told. Read the Bible and it says, Jesus demanded his followers to kill people that didn’t except him as their lord and savior. He demanded his followers gather them up and murder them right in front of him. Asking a man to murder I’m his beloved son in order to prove his devotion? Why? This sounds like cult leader 101 to me…
“In the gospel of Luke, Jesus says, “But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.”
Now that sounds like something a Charlie Manson would say. Suspend all belief or disbelief, for just a minute. Now think of where you’ve heard this kind of talk before. You’d be lying if you said this did not sound like the text book case of an extremely strong and powerful cult leader with a long reach. Many I’m sure, followed only out of fear. The 10 commandments were laid down as if an ancient constitution of law. To not kill. To not steal. The church would go on to do much good in the world but always having this underlying premise that had been built on lies. How do we REALLY know. We should remain stoic and simply take things as they come. If Jesus comes to Earth, I’m more than willing to discuss things. However, I never needed any rules to know that I shouldn’t kill or steal. I know it’s better to have a long last and loving relationship. Better to remain faithful and it’s never good to be greedy. These are all things that we know are wrong. Simply by being human. How can the single character of Jesus be so much bigger than, God? Mankind existed for eons before and after any, Jesus. God and Satan were most likely always one in the same. Can light exist without the dark? You need negativity in order for positivity to even exist. It’s a cosmic dance between the two and always has been. I’m not completely sold on Jesus , although I was baptized as a new born. I have no say one way or the other. I simply, have never had the pleasure of speaking with him. I genuinely believe that anyone that claims they have, is lying or confused. They may have mixed him up for the part of them very selves that actually is, “God.” The rules of what is right and wrong, seem universally true and timeless. They’re instinctual but lines may blur due to false ideologies.
Crazy, but I was thinking that the scripture was culled from wisdom, but men from the beginning, put this together. And the book is reflective of what these redactions really are. So the paintings and the scripture are revealed to hold man made interpretations. I realize that this seems to run counter to Meeg’s view, but it was what I thought right away. The heart for connection to our creator won’t change, but religion may be. So, is the heart the way, with us waking up, or is it Satan and Jehovah in battle? Time will tell. Right now, I lean away from the religion, but not away from God.
@@elliebrooks3611 the men from “the beginning” had died eons prior to the Bible even being written. Infinity is a mathematical truth so, I don’t believe there ever was one true, ultimate beginning to everything. Only infinite amounts of them. Spacetime is curved. The full circle of life is so macroscopically grand, it’s hard to see from our current perspective. Our past may be slightly altered by our future. This has actually been proven to be the case within the most insignificant windows of time. Seemingly insignificant since we’re only able to witness it in less than a fraction of a second. What about macroscopically though? Where time moves slower… Refer to the work of Jeff Tolleksen. His experiments, give new insights into time. What it is and how it operates. While you’re at it, you can look into Sean Carroll. One of the most well respected voices in the world of science and admittedly, Mandela effected. There is a science as to what is going on with the Mandela Effect. We just don’t currently understand it. He has explained why no credible scientists have announced the Mandela Effect as being real. Such a phenomenon has to be tested. It has to be verifiably true. Otherwise, no scientist can acknowledge such changes without fear of committing career suicide. We never know what the Mandela Effect may alter next. Also because we don’t know how it’s altered so it’s currently impossible to test. The closest thing we have to real proof, is the Mandela Effect residue. Currently, we can only speculate as to how the Mandela Effect occurs.
Thank you for your thoughts. Regarding the Luke passage, I was recently listening on uncensored media to discussions on this very passage as a ME. The talk was with someone in Israel where they were also highlighting that the changes are also in the Hebrew text.
@@elliebrooks3611Not crazy, what you said totally resonates in my heart. I truly feel only God is powerful enough to create the ME. Yes it's from the heart, I feel like the message with the biblical changes is "You should know me by now!" ... and a test of discernment... "Are you going to say that the fruit is sweet just because everyone else is saying it's sweet, but you taste it as sour?"
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Perhaps why the Qur'an has been and is memorized by millions and recited all the way through once a year during the holy month. God said he would protect it and those who have memorized it are called "guardians" of it
Also just FYI muslims believe in the prophethood of Jesus and that the bible originated from holy communication. We believe however that it has been altered....a belief held for thousands of years. Allah says so in the Quran. Jesus is mentioned many times in Quran and the Virgin Mary.
Check out the CERN logo...it's literally "666"
The Bible is not changing, nobody can change God's Word.
Then why did God give a stern warning not to add or take away from His written word? Serious question...
John 1:1 in the beginning was the word (Jesus) not the bible, scripture are different from the word, the bible was not fully written then written. The word, Jesus has not changed , only some bible scriptures. for me Isaiah 11:6 changing was enough, i knew from that change it was possible for scriptures to change as there is so much proof it was different then it is now. All one needs to do is google images of Isaiah 11:6 there you will see 80 percent lions, over wolfs. There is a song called the lion shall lie down with the lamb by Lloyd Snow not to mention many more and art work, movies, and T.V quotes saying it the way i remember but now have changed. Please watch this video by jesusfreak computergeek called: Isaiah was just the beginning. Maybe God is allowing this to happen to see who is awake.
@@roccodonato6236 that doesn't mean the Bible has changed. It is for sects like JW who made incorrect translations and deceived people. They added words to change the meaning.
No, nobody can change it against God's will. But God can allow it, for His purposes.
Not gods word mans word.