Very good review hitting a lot of the new features and how to apply them. I bought my Z6III the first day it came out to replace the original Z6 due to the frustrating auto focus. This camera backs up my Z9 and I’m so happy I can just about set up both cameras the same so it’s seamless to go from one to another during an event. I really hope Nikon is listening to some of your suggestions cause you’re spot on. Gonna check some of your other videos now.
Thank you so much, it's great to hear that you liked my suggestions! Makes me feel a bit relaxed, because I often think I'm the only one saying them :)
You can already do the autofocus style you are asking.Just assign your back button to your most instinctive and trusted af mode and then assign your shutter to 3D or customize C1 or C2 the size you felt appropriate and assign to the shutter button or the af on button. Though I will love nikon to bring the "switch af" that is found in the Z8 and 9 to the Z6iii.
@@leonmullingscreative on Z8 and Z9 you can assign a button to switch among the af area modes you selected . Example you can add single point ,3D and C1 to the list of af area modes you want that button to switch among ,with a press of a button you can cycle them all without rotating any dial .
Nice video - a few comments though: With respect to your criticism that the eye track should take over one you put the box on the person there is a reason that this does NOT happen. That is because the point of the box is to be able to quicly select different targets - if the box disappeared and the eye tracking took over you would not be able to switch to another target easily. What you are looking for is the use of subject detect with 3D tracking mode as you do later in the video. In 3D tracking with subject eye detect turned on you can select a target with the box and then the eye detect will take over until you let off the AF/shutter button - in this way you can select a target and then let the eye detect track around the frame. What you have described is not a bug - it is a feature and a good one. Also, you can set function buttons all over the camera to activate any AF focus mode including 3D - so if you want 3D to activate when you hit OK you can - it is much better to do this with the AF ON button however - then the shutter button can be ALL Area which you can immediately override with the AF ON button. -PD
Thank you for your comment! I tried to set it up for the OK button, and it didn't work. Tracking around the whole frame: I absolutely understand that is why 3D tracking is, but I find that the 3D tracking box is quite small. On Sonys at least you can configure it's size (S, M, L). If I use the Custom box on the Nikon Z 6 III, I was expecting the camera to track the found eye as long as I was holding halfway down the shutter button (or Af-ON). If I want to find a new target, I would just lift my finger off. Anyways, to me it was surprising, because Canons track the subject around the whole frame even in custom Area AF mode.
@@miklosmayerphoto Understood - I see what you are saying. The put the 3D box on the subject and then eye detect will take over all over the screen, but you are saying that the 3D box is too small for your liking - I understand what you are saying now. Still, I am not sure why you would want to use the OK button when using the shutter with the AF ON and/or Disp buttons are much more ergonomic, but of course to each their own. Overall, very good work on the review! -PD
@@miklosmayerphoto see comment above to transfer focus to 3D tracking once eye has been detected - AF-ON needs to be set rather than set on the shutter button.
This is a good review. I have the Z50 and, for my needs, the autofocus works well enough in most cases. I don't generally focus on fast moving subjects, so my needs are pretty basic. The Z50 autofocus struggles, however, in low light. (I switch to manual focus and it works OK here). I'm happy to see the Z6 iii is more capable in this area.
Really can't decide between Z8 and Z6iii for my next camera. I really need high MPs for wildlife, but Z6iii has some cool features that I'd love to have(except for the screen, I love the Z8 screen more). My Z5 will become backup and travel camera. BTW at 14:30 your shots are less in focus because of the lens. That's why there is 70-200 F2.8 S lens it has better AF motor. 70-180 has slower AF motor from the tests.
Very interesting point about the slower AF motor, it would be worth checking side by side! In this video, I did the same test with the Nikon Z8 and 85 mm F/1.2 lens, and it was way better (I don't know how fast that AF motor is): th-cam.com/video/v__ZAhr5I6E/w-d-xo.html The screen is really a big thing in how much you like using the camera, so if you don't mind the extra weight, I'd go for the Z8. To me it's AF also felt a bit better
As someone who shoots mainly wildlife, go Z8 if you can afford it. z6iii is fine if you don't need MP. But personally I crop a lot with wildlife and feel I truly need the MP from Z8. I absolutely love my Z8. Best camera I've ever used.
@@Blitz_Shorts I paid $2.7k for my Z8 right before the z6iii was announced lol. I shoot a lot of wildlife, so I don't regret my choice. But if I didn't Z6iii would be so compelling. You're gonna be blown away with how much better the af is. It's crazy how drastically behind Fuji af is.
Hello Sir. Please if it is possible can you make a full review of the Nikon FTZ Mark II adapter, on TH-cam no one has a real informative review of this product. it will be interesting to see how F-mount lenses from any brand can perform on a Nikon Z mount Camera, how accurate the autofocus is how fast is it, and so on. I think it will be interesting for a lot of people because right now a lot of people are considering buying a Nikon mirrorless camera but Nikon does not offer affordable Z-mount lenses and also there are no real good alternative lenses from other brands like Sigma or Tamron. for example, you can find a lot of perfect lenses for Sony E mount like the latest Sigma24-70mm f/2.8 mark II lens. to make a long story short You know better than me that you can find a lot of good half-price lenses for E mount but not for R mount or Z mount and there are a lot of people including myself want to know if we can buy Nikon Mirrorless camera and adapt F mount lenses without any problem with FTZ adapter and be happy.
Thank you! That's funny, because that's the first thing that I deactivate on these newer Nikons :) But I totally understand why some people prefer it. The reason I don't like it, is that it also switches in the image review mode, so if I'm holding the camera vertically, I will have to use other arrows to move between images.
Around 10 mins plus you can use af persistent set and press the 3D tracking button (set on another button) to continue the tracking when outside the box.
Further to that at 14 mins you don’t need to turn mode button to find 3D tracking, you can just press the set 3 D tracking button as a handoff (which is set on another custom button)
The 3d traking you can set to use the display button and then use the af on button to normal focus. And I then also use the fn1 button to single point auto focus. So I have 3 different buttons to autofocus. No need to go into any menu to change autofocus modes.
Could you actually set it up to the DISP button? You're in Auto Area AF mode, you press it once, and it jumps into 3D tracking mode? Because I tried the same but with the Fn1 button, and did not work.
@@miklosmayerphoto my disp button is set to 3d tracking. So as long as I keep it in it will be using 3d. When I leave it it goes to the autofocus mode I am shooting in. Then my gn1 button is set to single point, as long and I keep it in it single point focus.
@@mrbadventures8604 Thank you for your prompt reply, that's perfect clarification for me. Knowing this, I still maintain that on the "old" Nikon Z cameras, it was easier: you press the OK once, and it jumps into 3D tracking mode, until you don't exit it. But it's maybe it's just me who doesn't like to keep buttons pressed :)
Thank you for the excellent review. I was blown away by the Z8's ability to track the border collie's face in your other video. I was expecting (hoping) close to same performance by the Nikon Z6III, but was somewhat taken aback by what you were able to show from your video, as the autofocus seemed a bit erratic / was initially slow to find the dog's face. The fact that the dog's eyes are not as clearly visible as in the Z8 video may impact this. Have you had the chance to do any more testing or gain additional experience in this regard? I am looking to upgrade from Nikon Z6, and taking pictures of dogs running (usually straight towards the camera) is one of my favorite sort of pictures to take. And this is an absolute chore with the Z6, which required single point focusing with unreliable results. It seems the Z8 is well capable of this, but I am just wondering how short the Z6 III will fall from the Z8s performance. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
That's a very good question, it would be great to have them side-by-side. If you can afford the Z8, and don't care about the extra weight, I would definitely go for that.
After working with a rental Z6 III , I am not sure Nikon chose wisely going without mechanical shutter for the Z8 / Z9 , it proved very useful when working on terrible fluorescent ligting , something my Z9 struggles no matter what setting. The AF was good , but it did strigle in some situations that I think the Z9 would find focus. Overall great camera , I may add one at the begining of next year.
Thank you for your insights! Though I did not test them side-to-side, I also had the feeling that Z8/Z9 has a tad bit better AF. I just checked and Nikon claims that the AF is inherited from the Z8/Z9. So maybe it was the difference in lenses I used them with.
@@miklosmayerphoto I use the 50 1.2 with both (not side by side but by feel cause my Z9 is on grip replacement) It was a bit slower and a bit more hesitant , hope they improve it via firmware but judging by the ZF , I won't hold my breath. I do feel the Z system overall can get lense dependent , the 24-70 2.8 is instant , the 85 1.8 or 40 F2 are sloww.
Because you often want to limit the area where it should find the eyes. but once you have the eyes locked on, it would make sense to track them around the whole frame. Basically like the 3D mode, but with a box that has adjustable size.
I reassign the front F1 button to playback solving the problem of top left on older versions. Agree this better, “out of the box” but can the playback on Z6 iii playback be customised? Still has the non locked card slot door I notice.
Thanks for your tip, I never thought of assigning the Fn button for playback! Great idea! Yes, all the function buttons can be customised separately for shooting, and for separately for playback.
@@miklosmayerphoto Yeah maybe. Though I have found the Z9 performs better if you tell it what you are trying to focus on rather than have it try to work it out. I have a hunch the Z6/iii might be the same but would need to test it. But I am done buying more gear for a LOOONG time, so that's not going to happen! 😄
I'm still a bit confused about all of the autofocus options, and maybe there is an idea for another video or two here. One question I have is if it's faster and easier to use User Profiles settings instead of custom buttons to switch focus modes? I'd love to hear the pros and cons of doing that, if it's possible to do that. For me, I mostly shoot street photography (people, sometimes 1-3 in frame, sometimes more) and then landscapes and architecture. Would it make sense to just have one User Profile for single-point autofocus, where not much is moving in the frame and where I pick the focus point and then re-compose, and then to have U2 be "I need to track a moving object" that has 3D tracking on, with human-face recognition? Also, would love to see a video about using the camera display to select a focus point. Isn't that faster in some cases? Would also like to see a discussion of when or if to use the joystick vs locking focus by pressing shutter halfway down. When do you use the joystick?
Great question! You can of course do that with User Profiles. But there are so many other things you can also assign to User Profile (WB, drive mode, file formats, metadata, exposure settings, etc)... So I think it would be a waste to assign User Profiles just to have different AF points / zones. Instead, you can set one of the customisable buttons to cycle between AF zones / points. So for example, you have full Area AF, but then you press the Fn button and it jumps to 3D. Then you press the Fn button and it jumps to single AF point. In the Menu you can select which AF area modes the Fn button would cycle between. I hope this helps!
I use the z6 ii for jet spotting (military like mig29 and f16) and it annoys me when i take pictures my finder gets like black and like 5 fps, with that its very annoying to track the jets going like 800kmph
Thanks for the good review! How did you calculate the IBIS stops though? With 70mm if you compare to 1/80 shutter speed, the 0.4s is about 5 stops (not 8).
Oh God, thanks for pointing that out! I clearly lost my arithmetic skills... :))) Indeed, that would be about 5 stops. To be honest, I took shots at 1.3 seconds as well, but only one came out as sharp enough out of three. That would make it roughly 7 stops, but that's still far from the claimed 8.5 stops
I really wish they would make a Z7III with the expeed 7 and the viewfinder from the Z6III. The Z8 is just too big and heavy if you need to hike long to location as a landscape photographer. Starlight is another addition that a new Z7III could benefit from.
The price is still stupidly too high in Uk, Australia, Europe, Canada and New Zealand. Its not worth it, get the Z8 much better camera and better value when on sale .
I like what's Nikon it's doing. Nikon offer more for the price than Sony and even Canon sometimes. And Nikon tolerate some third party lenses. ¿Do you know if you can use APSC lenses in full frame mode on Nikon Z cameras? That's a big advantage of Sony over Canon. It would be great if Nikon allow DX lenses be used in FX mode.
No, the camera automatically jumps to DX mode. It would be foolish to let people use that, people who don't know what they are doing would start to complain about the "bad image quality" :)
@@miklosmayerphoto but people who knows can take advantage of smaller lighter cheaper lenses with great image quality. You can crop in post when needed, mostly for video stabilization. And there are a lot of lenses that fully cover full frame, like the Sigma 10-18mm f2.8 at 12mm. Seems like Sony is still my only option 🤔
choosing best images has allways been in nikon proffesional cameras (protect image) since the d700, and the adobe star system was in the z8 and z9 on launch. The system trickeled down to the z6 which is a prosumer camera
also at 10:30 the option you want is 3d tracking, where you choose an eye with a small af box and it tracks it (in 3d) across everything. The C1 C2 modes are usually used in low light as fixed areas for the AF to focus on. By limiting the scan area it has much better hitrate within the limited zone. That's why nikon has the reputation of best low light autofocus.
For sure, protecting feature has been there, but you don't see those in Lightroom. However, you see the rating stars in Lightroom and many other program.
@@eldengard23 3D tracking: it's good, but it's a very small box, and it's not that easy to put that small box onto someone's head. That's why it would make sense to limit the area where it finds the eyes (let's say, the upper right third of the frame), but then it should track that given eye, as long as you keep the AF activated.
13:50 all nikon MILC cameras have that options. Custom settings>controllsAF area + AF ON. It's programable on display, af-on and middle press of the joystick, aswell as the 2 front custom buttons. This is an awful review, you have no idea how to even use the camera properly. 3D is for tracking in good light, AF Wide S or one of the custom areas with 1x1 size is for tracking low light subjects. You need to know camera settings and how to use it before you form your opinions, wether they be positive or negative
@@eldengard23 I tried exactly that setting, and it didn't work. I have screen recording of it, but didn't include in the video not to bore people. On the Z6 III this setting is only available if you tap on the screen - something that pulls you out from taking photos, costing seconds. Believe me, after 9 years of doing private photo tours for more than 800 photographers, I've used every camera out there, and know their quirks.
Z6iii is worse. It has dynamic range of a apsc camera and even a micro four thirds camera like lumix gh7 is a bit better in this regard. This is what comes with the partially stacked sensor z6iii has. It makes the camera fast but it kills dynamic range. Dynamic range in my opinion is good anyway but its not full frame level.
The 70-200 is heavy and expensive. Agree. But also quite a bit better in all other aspects. I always enjoy your reviews. Thanks. If you want your canon like tracking mode make a custom size box and use 3d tracking.
@@miklosmayerphoto The "Nikon way" is to do a little dance with AF-ON set to "AF-area mode+AF-ON" > 3D Tracking. First, use Wide Area AF to capture the eye. Then start holding AF-ON. 3D tracking will start tracking the eye that was captured by Wide Area AF. At this point the camera will track the eye anywhere in the frame until AF-ON is released.
@@miklosmayerphoto to clarify you have to start autofocusing in Wide Area AF before performing the handoff, it isn't enough to let the camera detect the eye, the camera has to actively be tracking it
I didn't say it's a waste. I said, don't waste your money. I know it's a tad bit better in every aspect, but the design of that lens could be so much better. Why couldn't Nikon make it smaller (look at the Canon RF version)? Okay, some people don't like the extending design... Why did they put the zoom ring where it's so uncomfortable?
I think you need a lot more knowledge to become a serious reviewer. I had the Z6 III for 2 weeks and discovered the AF handout feature which will allow the camera to focus on the eye after you remove the wide area box away.
The suspected fraud with getting that patent for raw video shooting is just off the charts....should NEVER have been granted because they did NOT invent it and it already was out in the public domain - if I'm not mistaken.
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Great that you're making some of the raw images available. Thanks.
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Very good review hitting a lot of the new features and how to apply them. I bought my Z6III the first day it came out to replace the original Z6 due to the frustrating auto focus. This camera backs up my Z9 and I’m so happy I can just about set up both cameras the same so it’s seamless to go from one to another during an event. I really hope Nikon is listening to some of your suggestions cause you’re spot on. Gonna check some of your other videos now.
Thank you so much, it's great to hear that you liked my suggestions! Makes me feel a bit relaxed, because I often think I'm the only one saying them :)
It is shocking to me how hard it has been to find a video that explains and shows how the 3D tracking actually works. Thank you for this
Happy to hear that :)
You can already do the autofocus style you are asking.Just assign your back button to your most instinctive and trusted af mode and then assign your shutter to 3D or customize C1 or C2 the size you felt appropriate and assign to the shutter button or the af on button.
Though I will love nikon to bring the "switch af" that is found in the Z8 and 9 to the Z6iii.
Okay, I will have to try to put it on the AF-ON button. It definitely didn't work when I put it to the Fn button. Thanks for the tip
what do you mean "Switch AF" from the Z8/9? Can you explain?
@@leonmullingscreative on Z8 and Z9 you can assign a button to switch among the af area modes you selected . Example you can add single point ,3D and C1 to the list of af area modes you want that button to switch among ,with a press of a button you can cycle them all without rotating any dial .
Nice video - a few comments though:
With respect to your criticism that the eye track should take over one you put the box on the person there is a reason that this does NOT happen. That is because the point of the box is to be able to quicly select different targets - if the box disappeared and the eye tracking took over you would not be able to switch to another target easily.
What you are looking for is the use of subject detect with 3D tracking mode as you do later in the video. In 3D tracking with subject eye detect turned on you can select a target with the box and then the eye detect will take over until you let off the AF/shutter button - in this way you can select a target and then let the eye detect track around the frame.
What you have described is not a bug - it is a feature and a good one.
Also, you can set function buttons all over the camera to activate any AF focus mode including 3D - so if you want 3D to activate when you hit OK you can - it is much better to do this with the AF ON button however - then the shutter button can be ALL Area which you can immediately override with the AF ON button.
-PD
Exactly! I was just about to say this, then I found your comment!
Thank you for your comment! I tried to set it up for the OK button, and it didn't work.
Tracking around the whole frame: I absolutely understand that is why 3D tracking is, but I find that the 3D tracking box is quite small. On Sonys at least you can configure it's size (S, M, L).
If I use the Custom box on the Nikon Z 6 III, I was expecting the camera to track the found eye as long as I was holding halfway down the shutter button (or Af-ON). If I want to find a new target, I would just lift my finger off.
Anyways, to me it was surprising, because Canons track the subject around the whole frame even in custom Area AF mode.
@@miklosmayerphoto Understood - I see what you are saying. The put the 3D box on the subject and then eye detect will take over all over the screen, but you are saying that the 3D box is too small for your liking - I understand what you are saying now.
Still, I am not sure why you would want to use the OK button when using the shutter with the AF ON and/or Disp buttons are much more ergonomic, but of course to each their own.
Overall, very good work on the review!
-PD
@@miklosmayerphoto see comment above to transfer focus to 3D tracking once eye has been detected - AF-ON needs to be set rather than set on the shutter button.
This is a good review. I have the Z50 and, for my needs, the autofocus works well enough in most cases. I don't generally focus on fast moving subjects, so my needs are pretty basic. The Z50 autofocus struggles, however, in low light. (I switch to manual focus and it works OK here). I'm happy to see the Z6 iii is more capable in this area.
Great video. I have a Z6 II, but I purchased a Z6 III because I shoot a lot of events in poor lighting. The III can lock on focus where the II can't.
Awesome, have fun with it!
Please share your thoughts on z6iii autofocus.. thnx
Really can't decide between Z8 and Z6iii for my next camera. I really need high MPs for wildlife, but Z6iii has some cool features that I'd love to have(except for the screen, I love the Z8 screen more). My Z5 will become backup and travel camera. BTW at 14:30 your shots are less in focus because of the lens. That's why there is 70-200 F2.8 S lens it has better AF motor. 70-180 has slower AF motor from the tests.
Very interesting point about the slower AF motor, it would be worth checking side by side! In this video, I did the same test with the Nikon Z8 and 85 mm F/1.2 lens, and it was way better (I don't know how fast that AF motor is):
th-cam.com/video/v__ZAhr5I6E/w-d-xo.html
The screen is really a big thing in how much you like using the camera, so if you don't mind the extra weight, I'd go for the Z8. To me it's AF also felt a bit better
As someone who shoots mainly wildlife, go Z8 if you can afford it. z6iii is fine if you don't need MP. But personally I crop a lot with wildlife and feel I truly need the MP from Z8. I absolutely love my Z8. Best camera I've ever used.
Update. I just bought Z6iii. Z8 was more expensive almost 1600$ including taxes. Couldn't justify such high expense at all. Can't wait to use my Z6iii
@@Blitz_Shorts I paid $2.7k for my Z8 right before the z6iii was announced lol. I shoot a lot of wildlife, so I don't regret my choice. But if I didn't Z6iii would be so compelling. You're gonna be blown away with how much better the af is. It's crazy how drastically behind Fuji af is.
Nice. Thinking of this now as my Nikon Z6 1 has done its part
I love mine. Great video review bud
Thank you! Have fun with it!
Hello Sir. Please if it is possible can you make a full review of the Nikon FTZ Mark II adapter, on TH-cam no one has a real informative review of this product. it will be interesting to see how F-mount lenses from any brand can perform on a Nikon Z mount Camera, how accurate the autofocus is how fast is it, and so on. I think it will be interesting for a lot of people because right now a lot of people are considering buying a Nikon mirrorless camera but Nikon does not offer affordable Z-mount lenses and also there are no real good alternative lenses from other brands like Sigma or Tamron. for example, you can find a lot of perfect lenses for Sony E mount like the latest Sigma24-70mm f/2.8 mark II lens. to make a long story short You know better than me that you can find a lot of good half-price lenses for E mount but not for R mount or Z mount and there are a lot of people including myself want to know if we can buy Nikon Mirrorless camera and adapt F mount lenses without any problem with FTZ adapter and be happy.
Thank you for the video idea!
Thank you for asking this. I too have similar query on F- mount lens adaptability using FTZ .
Great review, Miklos.
Thank you!
This is my first Nikon. Im pleasantly surprised by the AF.
Nice overview, Miklos. I really like how the screen information shifts to vertical display when shooting in portrait mode.
Yes, finally. Most Fujifilm do this already for some years!
@@liciniooliveira-becas3618 Yes, it’s one of favourite features on my X-T5.
Thank you! That's funny, because that's the first thing that I deactivate on these newer Nikons :) But I totally understand why some people prefer it.
The reason I don't like it, is that it also switches in the image review mode, so if I'm holding the camera vertically, I will have to use other arrows to move between images.
Around 10 mins plus you can use af persistent set and press the 3D tracking button (set on another button) to continue the tracking when outside the box.
Further to that at 14 mins you don’t need to turn mode button to find 3D tracking, you can just press the set 3 D tracking button as a handoff (which is set on another custom button)
Thank you! Yes, since then I learnt that I can program one of the buttons to shuffle between certain AF area modes, and that does the trick
@@miklosmayerphoto Ohh! I know how you do the handoff to 3D but how did you manage to set a button to cycle through the autofocus modes?
The 3d traking you can set to use the display button and then use the af on button to normal focus. And I then also use the fn1 button to single point auto focus. So I have 3 different buttons to autofocus. No need to go into any menu to change autofocus modes.
Could you actually set it up to the DISP button? You're in Auto Area AF mode, you press it once, and it jumps into 3D tracking mode? Because I tried the same but with the Fn1 button, and did not work.
@@miklosmayerphoto my disp button is set to 3d tracking. So as long as I keep it in it will be using 3d. When I leave it it goes to the autofocus mode I am shooting in. Then my gn1 button is set to single point, as long and I keep it in it single point focus.
@@mrbadventures8604 Thanks! But do you have to keep the DISP button pressed or you just press it once?
@@miklosmayerphoto you have to keep it pressed it. That basically becomes your focus button.
@@mrbadventures8604 Thank you for your prompt reply, that's perfect clarification for me.
Knowing this, I still maintain that on the "old" Nikon Z cameras, it was easier: you press the OK once, and it jumps into 3D tracking mode, until you don't exit it.
But it's maybe it's just me who doesn't like to keep buttons pressed :)
Could we have a Z6 iii setup guide please
Thanks for the video idea!
Thank you for the excellent review. I was blown away by the Z8's ability to track the border collie's face in your other video. I was expecting (hoping) close to same performance by the Nikon Z6III, but was somewhat taken aback by what you were able to show from your video, as the autofocus seemed a bit erratic / was initially slow to find the dog's face. The fact that the dog's eyes are not as clearly visible as in the Z8 video may impact this.
Have you had the chance to do any more testing or gain additional experience in this regard? I am looking to upgrade from Nikon Z6, and taking pictures of dogs running (usually straight towards the camera) is one of my favorite sort of pictures to take. And this is an absolute chore with the Z6, which required single point focusing with unreliable results. It seems the Z8 is well capable of this, but I am just wondering how short the Z6 III will fall from the Z8s performance. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
That's a very good question, it would be great to have them side-by-side. If you can afford the Z8, and don't care about the extra weight, I would definitely go for that.
After working with a rental Z6 III , I am not sure Nikon chose wisely going without mechanical shutter for the Z8 / Z9 , it proved very useful when working on terrible fluorescent ligting , something my Z9 struggles no matter what setting.
The AF was good , but it did strigle in some situations that I think the Z9 would find focus.
Overall great camera , I may add one at the begining of next year.
Thank you for your insights! Though I did not test them side-to-side, I also had the feeling that Z8/Z9 has a tad bit better AF. I just checked and Nikon claims that the AF is inherited from the Z8/Z9. So maybe it was the difference in lenses I used them with.
@@miklosmayerphoto I use the 50 1.2 with both (not side by side but by feel cause my Z9 is on grip replacement)
It was a bit slower and a bit more hesitant , hope they improve it via firmware but judging by the ZF , I won't hold my breath.
I do feel the Z system overall can get lense dependent , the 24-70 2.8 is instant , the 85 1.8 or 40 F2 are sloww.
What is the point of tracking the eye inside a box and then moving the box? The eye tracking without the box is already doing the job.
Because you often want to limit the area where it should find the eyes. but once you have the eyes locked on, it would make sense to track them around the whole frame. Basically like the 3D mode, but with a box that has adjustable size.
I reassign the front F1 button to playback solving the problem of top left on older versions. Agree this better, “out of the box” but can the playback on Z6 iii playback be customised?
Still has the non locked card slot door I notice.
Thanks for your tip, I never thought of assigning the Fn button for playback! Great idea!
Yes, all the function buttons can be customised separately for shooting, and for separately for playback.
Good review well done 👍
Thank you! :)
With the small dog running that you had problems with AF, you were not using animal AF. You had it on auto.
Thanks for pointing that out, indeed! However, it should have tracked the dog's face better in my opinion - because it definitely found it.
@@miklosmayerphoto Yeah maybe. Though I have found the Z9 performs better if you tell it what you are trying to focus on rather than have it try to work it out. I have a hunch the Z6/iii might be the same but would need to test it. But I am done buying more gear for a LOOONG time, so that's not going to happen! 😄
@@miklosmayerphotonot really. There is a reason they have animal option.
@@ST-fl5fythere's a reason they have an option for auto detection as well.
I'm still a bit confused about all of the autofocus options, and maybe there is an idea for another video or two here.
One question I have is if it's faster and easier to use User Profiles settings instead of custom buttons to switch focus modes?
I'd love to hear the pros and cons of doing that, if it's possible to do that.
For me, I mostly shoot street photography (people, sometimes 1-3 in frame, sometimes more) and then landscapes and architecture.
Would it make sense to just have one User Profile for single-point autofocus, where not much is moving in the frame and where I pick the focus point and then re-compose, and then to have U2 be "I need to track a moving object" that has 3D tracking on, with human-face recognition?
Also, would love to see a video about using the camera display to select a focus point. Isn't that faster in some cases?
Would also like to see a discussion of when or if to use the joystick vs locking focus by pressing shutter halfway down. When do you use the joystick?
Great question!
You can of course do that with User Profiles. But there are so many other things you can also assign to User Profile (WB, drive mode, file formats, metadata, exposure settings, etc)... So I think it would be a waste to assign User Profiles just to have different AF points / zones.
Instead, you can set one of the customisable buttons to cycle between AF zones / points.
So for example, you have full Area AF, but then you press the Fn button and it jumps to 3D. Then you press the Fn button and it jumps to single AF point.
In the Menu you can select which AF area modes the Fn button would cycle between.
I hope this helps!
I use the z6 ii for jet spotting (military like mig29 and f16) and it annoys me when i take pictures my finder gets like black and like 5 fps, with that its very annoying to track the jets going like 800kmph
with the mark III, it's already blackout free - have you tried that?
@@miklosmayerphoto not yet
Thanks for the good review! How did you calculate the IBIS stops though? With 70mm if you compare to 1/80 shutter speed, the 0.4s is about 5 stops (not 8).
Oh God, thanks for pointing that out! I clearly lost my arithmetic skills... :)))
Indeed, that would be about 5 stops. To be honest, I took shots at 1.3 seconds as well, but only one came out as sharp enough out of three. That would make it roughly 7 stops, but that's still far from the claimed 8.5 stops
I really wish they would make a Z7III with the expeed 7 and the viewfinder from the Z6III. The Z8 is just too big and heavy if you need to hike long to location as a landscape photographer. Starlight is another addition that a new Z7III could benefit from.
Absolutely agree with you! And they could get rid of most of the high-end video features, most photographers never use them
Great in-depth video. Which is good new z6iii or at same price used z8 for all types of photography.
I loved the Z8, but it's a much bigger body. Depends what you mostly shoot.
Z8 is better in most respects and more mature.
The price is still stupidly too high in Uk, Australia, Europe, Canada and New Zealand. Its not worth it, get the Z8 much better camera and better value when on sale .
In Hungary, they are discounting it quite much in these days. Still, quite expensive - it's because of its video qualities
I like what's Nikon it's doing. Nikon offer more for the price than Sony and even Canon sometimes. And Nikon tolerate some third party lenses.
¿Do you know if you can use APSC lenses in full frame mode on Nikon Z cameras? That's a big advantage of Sony over Canon. It would be great if Nikon allow DX lenses be used in FX mode.
No, the camera automatically jumps to DX mode. It would be foolish to let people use that, people who don't know what they are doing would start to complain about the "bad image quality" :)
@@miklosmayerphoto but people who knows can take advantage of smaller lighter cheaper lenses with great image quality. You can crop in post when needed, mostly for video stabilization. And there are a lot of lenses that fully cover full frame, like the Sigma 10-18mm f2.8 at 12mm. Seems like Sony is still my only option 🤔
choosing best images has allways been in nikon proffesional cameras (protect image) since the d700, and the adobe star system was in the z8 and z9 on launch. The system trickeled down to the z6 which is a prosumer camera
also at 10:30 the option you want is 3d tracking, where you choose an eye with a small af box and it tracks it (in 3d) across everything. The C1 C2 modes are usually used in low light as fixed areas for the AF to focus on. By limiting the scan area it has much better hitrate within the limited zone. That's why nikon has the reputation of best low light autofocus.
For sure, protecting feature has been there, but you don't see those in Lightroom. However, you see the rating stars in Lightroom and many other program.
@@eldengard23 3D tracking: it's good, but it's a very small box, and it's not that easy to put that small box onto someone's head. That's why it would make sense to limit the area where it finds the eyes (let's say, the upper right third of the frame), but then it should track that given eye, as long as you keep the AF activated.
13:50 all nikon MILC cameras have that options. Custom settings>controllsAF area + AF ON. It's programable on display, af-on and middle press of the joystick, aswell as the 2 front custom buttons.
This is an awful review, you have no idea how to even use the camera properly. 3D is for tracking in good light, AF Wide S or one of the custom areas with 1x1 size is for tracking low light subjects. You need to know camera settings and how to use it before you form your opinions, wether they be positive or negative
@@eldengard23 I tried exactly that setting, and it didn't work. I have screen recording of it, but didn't include in the video not to bore people. On the Z6 III this setting is only available if you tap on the screen - something that pulls you out from taking photos, costing seconds.
Believe me, after 9 years of doing private photo tours for more than 800 photographers, I've used every camera out there, and know their quirks.
I have Z6ii. Is Z6iii dynamic range worse? Indoor video is my priority
I haven't tested dynamic range in video, sorry
Z6iii is worse. It has dynamic range of a apsc camera and even a micro four thirds camera like lumix gh7 is a bit better in this regard. This is what comes with the partially stacked sensor z6iii has. It makes the camera fast but it kills dynamic range. Dynamic range in my opinion is good anyway but its not full frame level.
@andersistbesser Thanks, image quality is more important than speed to me.
The 70-200 is heavy and expensive. Agree. But also quite a bit better in all other aspects.
I always enjoy your reviews. Thanks.
If you want your canon like tracking mode make a custom size box and use 3d tracking.
That's was my "bug": 3D tracking mode in these Nikons is a separate AF Area mode, so you cannot use with the customized box.
@@miklosmayerphoto The "Nikon way" is to do a little dance with AF-ON set to "AF-area mode+AF-ON" > 3D Tracking.
First, use Wide Area AF to capture the eye. Then start holding AF-ON. 3D tracking will start tracking the eye that was captured by Wide Area AF. At this point the camera will track the eye anywhere in the frame until AF-ON is released.
@@miklosmayerphoto to clarify you have to start autofocusing in Wide Area AF before performing the handoff, it isn't enough to let the camera detect the eye, the camera has to actively be tracking it
Unfortunately a little complicated
@@FawfulDied That's very good know, I will have to check.Thanks!
Mmmmhhhh, you didn't comment on the recording to two cards simultaneously????
Nikon zf or z6iii for family.candid shots?
Both
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Did the nikon z6iii is overhit during the video???
It didn't, but I was not testing its limits, I only used it in 4K, 8 bit
I'm currently watching this to sell my Z8 to buy this. But man that floppy screen is suchs a deal breaker for me.
I don't know what you're shooting, but I'm fine with that screen. Canon, Sony have similar as well.
how much is the price in HUF body only?
As of 2024.08.12 it's 1 254 900 HUF
How do you adjust ISO?
There's a dedicated ISO button. Press it down, and while pressed, rotate the dial on the top back
@@miklosmayerphoto thank you.
70-200 a waste? You lost me right there. What a ridiculous statement
I didn't say it's a waste. I said, don't waste your money. I know it's a tad bit better in every aspect, but the design of that lens could be so much better.
Why couldn't Nikon make it smaller (look at the Canon RF version)? Okay, some people don't like the extending design...
Why did they put the zoom ring where it's so uncomfortable?
I think you need a lot more knowledge to become a serious reviewer. I had the Z6 III for 2 weeks and discovered the AF handout feature which will allow the camera to focus on the eye after you remove the wide area box away.
Okay, and can you share it with us? What's the setting? Also, there may have been a firmware update since I published the video.
The suspected fraud with getting that patent for raw video shooting is just off the charts....should NEVER have been granted because they did NOT invent it and it already was out in the public domain - if I'm not mistaken.
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It is not the camera, but the lens......... This is the more reason why you pay the premium. For a better glass.
Yes, thank you for pointing it out - I also had to realize that :)
Low light like that demands an f/1.4 lens.....just saying....!
To me this is still behind the older A7 IV by a big margin in terms of tracking moving object.
Definitely not. Use both extensively.
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