@@Mickey2099 the only reason it'd do that is if it split loading and processing of each asset into a separate job item and only processed one or two jobs per frame... Has Unreal's job scheduler ever been that stupid, or did the devs roll their own half-assed one?
and 40 second load times haha hey, did you get crashes on this game? I agreed with pretty much all your points but I didn't hear you mentioning extremely frequent CTDs... maybe it just didn't like my machine?
I remember there was a console command you could use to increase the movement speed back up to what it was like in the first Unreal. As soon as you did that [would need to reenter it every level transition] the game became far, far better.
So Aida's backstory is that she feels really sad about sacrificing some people to win a war causing her to hate and rebel against the military. But then when she's asked to kill a completely innocent man for no reason by the same military she hates she's just like "yep no problem".
"Unreal Tournament 2003, 2004, Unreal Tournament 3, and whatever the fuck the new one is called" For anyone lacking historical context, that "new one" no longer exists. It became Fortnite
I, had hopes for the new Unreal Tournament. It was gonna be Community Made/Designed. But, Fortnite came out and money said "Kill Unreal Tournament." :(
@@mhfiver2441 it's sorta true. They pulled all the devs from UT4 and put them on Fortnite. I actually liked that game before it became all about the battle royale mode too...
@@XSniper74184 I would rather have UT4 either way. We need more good old school arena shooters. There's actually a ton of good free open source ones like Red Eclipse, Warsaw, Nexuiz, etc...which makes me wonder how a AAA budget would make these games so much grander.
Wait a minute, I recognize Dalton's voice. I think the voice actor for this guy also did Baurus and just about every other male Redguard in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
I'm pretty sure the Flak Cannon has been scientifically proven to be the best shotgun ever put in a game. Also, this game was a console port. It's possible that the devs couldn't be bothered to change the console weapon swap system (probably the D-Pad) for the keyboard. That might explain the wierdness.
To be honest it's not that weird but yeah the fact everything is split into 4 categories is probably because they wanted to port it to x box or something. Besides, Turok 2 who is an actual console shooter have 2x8 slots and some of the slots have 2 guns like the bow and tek bow, the pistol and mag 60 or the dart rifle and the tranq rifle or the talon and the wrist blade. But to be fair it wasn't that bad I mean all the close range guns were on 1 assault weapons were on 2. I think they wanted to do like half life with all the weapons in 5 categories or red faction who have all of them in 4. I think they could have separated them more and be more conventional about that, but whatever.
The only real contender here could be the Ironblast from Guncaster (an utterly ludicrous 8 barrel pump-action shotgun with ludicrous firepower and equally ludicrous recoil, that's very satisfying to use). Another cool thing about flak is that it's not just a shotgun, but a hybrid of huge calibre shotgun and grenade launcher.
Never really understood why everyone was hating on it that much, it looked like a decent enough sci-fi FPS. Then I got to play it, and unreservedly joined the haters about twenty minutes in
It was clearly underrated. Technically was on the top back in the day. It's true that the end was kinda meh but the journey was fun and some missions were original. Easily a 7 at least.
I was thinking the same a couple years back, then I went on to replay it and the sluggish movement speed made it impossible for me. I found a console command, but it didn't carry over across levels and eventually stopped working altogether, so I gave up. But yeah, it has solid sci-fi environments and being able to walk around your own ship is neat.
Bought this for nearly €50, day of release, in HMV, kept crashing.. printed out the crash exceptions and went back to HMV less than 24 hours later for a cash refund. Victory!
I love how the main character's voice is Michael Mack, which means this is the same voice you hear from pretty much every individual male Redguard in Oblivion. Damn.
I don't recognize this game as a sequel to Unreal. Unreal was a journey that I'll remember forever. Unreal II was... a game. It had nearly nothing in common with the feel of the first one in my opinion. There's the Skaarj shoved in, but that feels to me like a cameo in a different game than like an Unreal game.
I'm so glad I skipped this one. When Civvie said that that's the fastest the character goes, I just laughed. That's like a major faux pas that disqualifies this game from being an Unreal game. The Skaarj are also unnecessary beefed up. They looked really cool in Unreal.
Yeah, Unreal 2 had almost nothing to do with original game. Even though I actually like it, It still makes me wonder what the devs where thinking when they decided to make a sequel to game that has hardly anything to do with the 1st one.
Maybe it's true with nostalgic feelings, but I've just played Unreal and Unreal 2 in the row. And Unreal 2 is so much superior than original one, it's kinda easy on normal difficulty but plays very well on Unreal difficulty. Also it looks gorgeous in 2K resolution with everything maxed out, actually looks much better than on this video, maybe because of video compression or because I've played patched version which I bought on GOG. That sad thing that Unreal 2 wasn't finished, game was just sold as is, because Atari happened.
However fun or un-fun Unreal 2 was, there was something it did that I haven't really seen many other games do that I actually super enjoyed. It was an ultimately small thing that most people could have forgotten in mere moments of it happening. Dalton and Ne'Bon explain backstory/lore/whatever to the player in what would normally be seen as the opposite way around. Ne'Bon comes up to Dalton and asks about all the weird names and stuff he hears that he knows nothing about. Dalton would obviously know these things and can explain them to him, out loud, in a way that allows the player to learn these things as well without having Dalton seem clueless. To contrast this, take Shepard from Mass Effect. Shepard is N7, the literal best of the best, he's flying all over space doing cool shit, shooting bad guys and interacting with aliens... but he didn't seem aware of what the Genophage was. Yeah, sure, humans have only been a part of the galactic community at large for about 30 years, but come on. They could at least give him a bullet point summary of super-important galactic events.
that's not really any better since na'ban is an utterly annoying and boring character, not to the extent dalton is but still. oh and it's also ＩＮＣＲＥＤＩＢＬＹ fucking tedious.
Well honestly Shepard knows vaguely about the genophage, he knew it was a touchy subject for both Salarians and Krogans. Serving in the Alliance as a grunt until he made Commander, he probably didn't interact with too many extraterrestrials and thus didn't actually understand what the genophage was or why it was such a sore spot. Now him not really knowing his way around the citadel despite being an alliance officer and thus needing to be on the citadel every once in a while is the part where I agree with you.
Can agree, wish more games make the player character the actual expository guy/gal. By the way, Shepard not knowing much and being chatty has its charm. Besides, without it, we wouldn't have "I should go".
I'm okay with games that let the player not know in-depth lore right away. Giving us information through the world design and contextually in conversation without dumping exposition. There are clever, subtle ways to deliver the world-building and I think this game tried something that just didn't quite work out, given the writing itself.
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 While the fandom for that game is really annoying, the game is pretty good overall. I don't play it myself but Epic has put a lot of work into it at this point to make it so popular.
@@DeadManSinging1 What Gears of War were you playing? It's one of the best selling franchises. I haven't played them in a while but I really liked them.
Even better, the next three notes can almost match up to what he says next. But it doesn't, because anyone who knows the song can fill it in for themselves.
Truth be told, this "sequel" was actually made by a different developer, Legend Entertainment. Makes scene for how different (and dull) this game became since it was such a dull Epic game; for an Epic game not made by Epic Games at all. Okay, I'm going now.
I bought this when it came out thinking, "It's Unreal, it should be fun." The disappointment was very high. Epic figured out the exact code for programming boring so needless to say I didn't get very far in it before just sort of moving on to something else.
Christopher Blair+ The only major issue is this game wasn't developed by Epic, it was made by Legend Entertainment, Legend also did Unreal 1's expansion, Return to Na Pali, which both later got released as Unreal Gold. :)
10:33 Unreal 1 is a great example of less is more - no one spoke english, all of the story is delivered via text (I think it's entirely optional to read), and every 'cinematic event' happened in real time. There were lots of memorable levels with fairly logical progression... I didn't realise the expansion was so fucked though.
@@micheleraurorhi2021 Actually unironically agree, and it's not even nostalgia speaking, I played it very recently. Hell, I even liked the voice acting, female one at least. She just sounds so tired and wants to get out asap, it's immersive you know. I only wish you encountered more of mercenary squads, they offered a nice challenge, just don't let them have hitscan weapons please. There's a mod floating around called RTNPUE (Return to Na Pali Ultimate Edition) which supposedly "fixes" the expansion and was even praised by haters, so I'm guessing it's worth checking it out.
I didn't like Unreal II, when it came out, mainly because they completely got rid of the atmosphere of the first game and instead tried to make some sort of space opera blockbaster (similar to Halo, probably). Unreal was all about solitude and survival on a mysterius and hostile, but beautiful alien planet. And Epic Games managed to nail this aspect perfectly, in fact better than anyone else at the time. The second game didn't need all that bullshit cliched mediocre plot, chatty dumb characters, tired twists. Sometimes, less is more. I was so disappointed with this game that I bought GameCube, because of Metroid Prime series, which had some of that first Unreal vibe and atmosphere. And I must say Retro Studios did much better job than Legend.
@@semvision That's not helpful. To argue you need to actually use points to backup your opinion. "It was." "It wasn't." "It was." Not exactly the most profound of conversation, is it? Unreal had no effect on Halo's gameplay which was totally unique, and Unreal didn't do much in this regard innovative by itself. Story wise, well, Halo is a cinematic story driven experience and Unreal has no dialogue, no backstory, next to no cinematics and tells the only story it has through in-game text which doesn't exist in Halo. I don't understand why you think it influenced Halo. Because it's sci-fi and an FPS? That it?
One of the things that bugs me about Unreal 2 is its writing. The developers claimed that story was very important to them, since they were once an adventure game company. I can understand that, and i support the idea of an Unreal game with a more in depth story. It's just that the writing isn't as good or as deep as the writer or the developers intended it to be. A shame, since I think the writer wrote some of Legend's best early adventure games. They could've made Dalton and Aida less stupid. The story exposition cutscenes were very ill advised in their execution. The rest of Unreal 2's problems were due to an overambitious design goals that couldn't have been met, and level designers were more focused on background details than with the overall level design. There are so many ways Unreal 2 could be improved. Maybe as a mod. Your in-depth analysis, Civvie, is certainly helpful in demonstrating what didn't work in Unreal 2's design.
Indeed. I mean, Unreal did have a story to tell through its translator journals, and those journals still were better told than U2. Plus, the world of Na Pali just felt more developed and immersive than the multiple planets you visit in U2.
Well, even without the journals, Unreal manages to tell most of its story points: the Na'Li are oppressed by the Skaarj, the Prisoner eventually takes on their role as this sort of messiah to the locals (see also the relief in one the major temples), the whole journey - from the crashed prison ship and to the alien overlords' base topped with desperate escape on the stolen shuttle - all of it was coherent, masterfully woven together and didn't felt contrived. From deepest chasms to highest peaks, from villages to abandoned fortresses, from gritty high-tech mines to ancient temples, from crashed spaceships to islands floating in sky, Unreal is, well, real. As much as it was a technological marvel at the time (and still quite the looker to this day thanks to the aesthetics), it was more - it was what few games can truly provide - an aforementioned journey. Unreal 2 felt like a poorly put together sci-fi TV series with stock characters and plot that was jumping between places without much thought. It had quite a few nice ideas, a pair or so somewhat interesting designs, some nice tracks, but it was by no means a journey. As an aside - while I love gritty cyberpunkish 90s style of UT99, I can't help but feel regret that EPIC has dropped the mystical, even magical feel of original Unreal.
@@nikital.6523 This is very true. Unreal manages to tell you, through gameplay and visual design, the main beats of the story even if you never read a tablet with your translator. This just makes it all the more interesting, and encourages you to find out more in previous playthroughs. Unreal 2.... well, suffice to say, it doesn't do that.
I would like to have seen some of the meetings where these decisions were made. You have a medium with interactivity as its defining property, and "the way forward" is to take that away in favor of watching muppets act out schlock so banal it would make a 12yr old cringe. I remember a COD producer beating his chest over how FPS now was 'mature' compared to the 90s. Really now, mechanically lobotomized to be lead by the assault rifle through scripted shounen anime tier bravado. How mature a development. Every market analysis will tell you that 'the average gamer' is late 20s/early-mid 30s, so why these blockbuster producers make and market their games for 12yrolds is beyond me. Your mom hates Dead Space 2.
That was fun :). The only good memory I keep from this game is that my PC experienced a very specific graphical bug when I first installed it. For some of the characters the colors for the cloth didn't load properly, and they were just covered in their skin color. And yeah, Aida was one of them XD
Michael Mack's voice keeps surprising me because I'm too used to hearing him speak as every male Redguard in The Elder Scrolls: IV - Oblivion. He was also Cyrus in The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard, but most of us remember Oblivion more than we do that disappointing game, which I'm surprised didn't lead to Todd Howard getting his career shit-canned like it would in a world that makes sense.
@@TheJayson8899 well, for 3 they forgot colors exist and forced a tortured backronym to explain why capture the flag is a thing in real war. That's something wrong. Not fatally so, I guess, but still.
I remember all the gaming magazines at the time praising this game before it even came out. They kept focusing on the grass blowing in the wind and that the game engine does this in real time. Absolute idiots.
To be fair a lot of those games were moreso trying to be innovative technologically than making like a really fantastic game, and those magazines focused on the technicals and the visuals moreso than the game which led to people comparing visuals to overall quality. Like for its time this game looks really good, but it also looks boring to play.
@@sorrenblitz805 I played it when it came out and found it fairly engaging and fun. Even as a kid I did notice however that the enemies were bullet sponges, but the weapons were awesome. Some of the settings were very immersive like the planet Hell. This had a lot of potential.
Played this on the first Xbox. Handled like shit but I did beat it at some point. So glad I found a channel that reminded me of this thing. Fun channel. I have been binge watching all the videos. Thanks Civvie.
Man, this game was NEAT, but such a let down. As an Unreal fan, and I mean the OG Unreal, seeing the Skaarj get turned into big beefy hulks was so disappointing when they were agile flesh blenders in their old incarnation. Not to mention the Izari, which kinda made the ASMD a staff weird ass weapon. And dont get me started on the fucking Krall... from the NEXT Unreal titles... sheesh
SCP - 2211 Object class: Safe Description: SCP - 2211 Is a middle aged overweight male who reviews video games and shits on bad movies he gives entertainment to the staff as they force him to make TH-cam videos
It was quite a technical marvel and a leap from 90's games No game was close to beat it until doom 3 and later on HL2 came out They were all three massive technical achievements. However I wasn't fan of the direction taken of any of them despite having some really creative things on each of them. Even in Unreal 2
I'm sorry, but the "Go to Hell" joke was actually funny. Because the joke isn't that he's trying to get to Hell because Aida told him, but because they are literally going to a place called "Hell. It's a very clever subversion. I will die on this hill.
@AgentFrenchFry You dont get it do you we were hooked on heroes 3 and diablo 2 and doom 2 now our children need to be hooked up on fortnite and overwatch and meth
I kinda loved this game in some ways at the time. It was definitely milk toast safe in its story and execution, but its atmosphere was affective and the presentation was top tier. blandness is its worse offense.
Am I the only one that actually liked this game? I found out you can speedup the movement speed with a console command and that made me really enjoy the game.
No Thing+ Unreal II: The Awakening is a really great game, it's a lot of fun, but the movement speed is definitely a problem if you playing just the base game(Should have been just like Unreal Gold's), however there is a mod called SOverhaul(which can be found on google, you will find it on Nexus mods) which fixes the games movement issues, it makes the walk key a sprint key, adds new weapons, and even restores and fixes the cut Botmatch mode, highly recommend it! :D
Hey Civvie, as a relatively new subscriber, I have two questions: 1- Since this video have "(old and crap)" on its title, does this mean you're going to revisit this game later? (Though the only crappiness I could notice, apart from the game itself of course, is the sound quality when you're talking) 2- Pro Unreal 1 when?
Sound mixing, and general lethargic quality of the narration. It can be attributed to growing pains, his later work gets much better than this. That's not to say this video is without entertainment value, otherwise it would've been nixed from his channel.
Also, Pro UT 1999 and 2004 and Pro Quake III: Arena and IV if he wants to do so? Edit: Also, Unreal Tournament 3, especially its campaign... wonder if he's gonna call it better than Unreal II?
I wish when Dalton said "You coulda smuggled booze on board anytime you wanted." Isaac would have gotten royally pissed because he didn't think of that. That would've at least broke up the monotony.
It took me a while to realize where else have I heard the "hoo hoo" from Civvie's main theme It was in Baldi's Basics. Not my proudest realization moment.
Legend Entertainment made some of the best games of all time. Adventure games, mostly. Mission Critical, anyone? I don't know how they ended up with this.
My favorite thing about this video is the cropped cutscenes because Civvie didn't use the widescreen fix. Also, protip for anybody trying to play the game: the loading time is tied to the framerate, which is why it takes 40 seconds to load in the video, but so are the physics. Use RTSS and setup a toggle button for a 60 FPS limit so you can greatly decrease the loading times and make sure the game doesn't break.
I played this when it came out and honestly couldn't remember a damn thing up until now. I did have some pre-alpha build of the game in like 2002 and that was something special back then for a kid without broadband access to the internet. Marvelling at that shit with 10 FPS is the only thing I remember about Unreal 2.
I chuckled a bit when they mentioned the medical discharge: here in the UK, if a medically discharged soldier appears to be in perfect physical health, rather often that excuse has actually been used to get rid of them because employment laws here loophole the dishonourable discharge into being illegal.
I remember this being a really good damn when it first came out. I even remember reading a review that said something like "This game isn't ground breaking. It will likely be mostly forgotten in the future and only really remembered as a game with beautiful graphics,". The graphics really haven't aged well at all.
The multiplayer for this was kind of cool. Other than that it's an unexceptional game, though it does hold a place for me purely as I played it as a child and didn't really have any standards.
i got this game back when it first released, and i was too impressed by the great graphics to realize how shitty the game actually was. i was tricked into thinking it's awesome. those were some pretty sweet visuals for that time period. now that i look back on it, i feel like a dipshit for ever thinking this game was good.
When this first came out, I thought graphics like that was absolutely amazing. And the game was absolutely computer-melting relative to what I had, heh.
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I said that this was an 8 year old game... it's actually 13 years old... the computer I'm playing it on is eight years newer....
That's what you get for a small growing channel. But I love this guy's content.
1:16 It was made by Legend Entertainment while Epic worked on Tournaments.
Aparently the loading screens are tied to framerate for some reason. If you deactivate vsync the levels should load in a second.
@@Mickey2099 the only reason it'd do that is if it split loading and processing of each asset into a separate job item and only processed one or two jobs per frame...
Has Unreal's job scheduler ever been that stupid, or did the devs roll their own half-assed one?
and 40 second load times haha
hey, did you get crashes on this game? I agreed with pretty much all your points but I didn't hear you mentioning extremely frequent CTDs... maybe it just didn't like my machine?
Dalton got kicked out of the marines for failing the 50-yard dash. It took him and hour and a half. I know it for a fact.
How do you even do that? I could do a faster 50-yard with the Ash Willams one-handed crawl.
I remember there was a console command you could use to increase the movement speed back up to what it was like in the first Unreal. As soon as you did that [would need to reenter it every level transition] the game became far, far better.
So Aida's backstory is that she feels really sad about sacrificing some people to win a war causing her to hate and rebel against the military. But then when she's asked to kill a completely innocent man for no reason by the same military she hates she's just like "yep no problem".
It's generally a good idea to hire actual writers for a game.
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People are complicated
I love looking back and seeing proto-civvie before he gestated into Perfect Civvie. The Plinkett-esqe thing he’s doing with his voice is adorable.
"Unreal Tournament 2003, 2004, Unreal Tournament 3, and whatever the fuck the new one is called"
For anyone lacking historical context, that "new one" no longer exists. It became Fortnite
I, had hopes for the new Unreal Tournament. It was gonna be Community Made/Designed. But, Fortnite came out and money said "Kill Unreal Tournament."
:(
Please tell me that last thing about Fortnite isn't true...
@@mhfiver2441 it's sorta true. They pulled all the devs from UT4 and put them on Fortnite. I actually liked that game before it became all about the battle royale mode too...
@@XSniper74184 I would rather have UT4 either way. We need more good old school arena shooters. There's actually a ton of good free open source ones like Red Eclipse, Warsaw, Nexuiz, etc...which makes me wonder how a AAA budget would make these games so much grander.
@@mhfiver2441 Same. The sad part is they really just needed one guy to review things, okay them, and put them in the game officially
Wait a minute, I recognize Dalton's voice. I think the voice actor for this guy also did Baurus and just about every other male Redguard in The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.
Calamity556 you got it. In other elder scrolls games too if i recall corectly
he did every redguard since he appeared in elder scrolls redguard
Was gonna say ALeK is right. He's been every redguard ever ever
go figure the one guy that was in the game about redguard now voices every single redguard ever
and Izaak's VA did voices for dark elves in Morrowind
Despite the bad audio mixing, I find this video kinda relaxing. I hope Civvie never remasters this video, or at least keeps the old one public.
I've fallen asleep to this one more than once lol
@@sean8102i fell asleep to his clips too hehhee mostly to the blood 2 ones, it calmed me down when i had to move to another city
I'm pretty sure the Flak Cannon has been scientifically proven to be the best shotgun ever put in a game.
Also, this game was a console port. It's possible that the devs couldn't be bothered to change the console weapon swap system (probably the D-Pad) for the keyboard. That might explain the wierdness.
To be honest it's not that weird but yeah the fact everything is split into 4 categories is probably because they wanted to port it to x box or something.
Besides, Turok 2 who is an actual console shooter have 2x8 slots and some of the slots have 2 guns like the bow and tek bow, the pistol and mag 60 or the dart rifle and the tranq rifle or the talon and the wrist blade.
But to be fair it wasn't that bad I mean all the close range guns were on 1 assault weapons were on 2. I think they wanted to do like half life with all the weapons in 5 categories or red faction who have all of them in 4.
I think they could have separated them more and be more conventional about that, but whatever.
Unreal had a whole bunch of great weapons, all with cool alt fires. The 8ball gun had like a zillion firing modes
..Weird I thought Og Xbox version was a port from the Pc !
The only real contender here could be the Ironblast from Guncaster (an utterly ludicrous 8 barrel pump-action shotgun with ludicrous firepower and equally ludicrous recoil, that's very satisfying to use).
Another cool thing about flak is that it's not just a shotgun, but a hybrid of huge calibre shotgun and grenade launcher.
The weapon selection madness absolutely stinks of awkwardly adapting gamepad controls to a keyboard.
3:57 - Jauffre would be the one to know, he lives quietly as a monk at Weynon Priory, near the city of Chorrol.
"My granny could beat you. And she's dead!"
Never really understood why everyone was hating on it that much, it looked like a decent enough sci-fi FPS. Then I got to play it, and unreservedly joined the haters about twenty minutes in
It was clearly underrated. Technically was on the top back in the day. It's true that the end was kinda meh but the journey was fun and some missions were original. Easily a 7 at least.
I was thinking the same a couple years back, then I went on to replay it and the sluggish movement speed made it impossible for me. I found a console command, but it didn't carry over across levels and eventually stopped working altogether, so I gave up.
But yeah, it has solid sci-fi environments and being able to walk around your own ship is neat.
Wow, Civvie's voice is different only a couple years back.
I think the explanation given is that Hammer has been choking Civie in his sleep. Can't remember what video that came from though
@@PurpleIsALetter The Serious Sam vid.
its the electric balls torture. it does that to a guy.
I too would have a smug look on my face if my head was impaled somewhere in unreal 2.
means I wouldn't have to endure any of it.
Bought this for nearly €50, day of release, in HMV, kept crashing.. printed out the crash exceptions and went back to HMV less than 24 hours later for a cash refund. Victory!
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GG dude!
I love how the main character's voice is Michael Mack, which means this is the same voice you hear from pretty much every individual male Redguard in Oblivion.
Damn.
Unreal II: Redguard in Space
im expecting a redguard to pop up
I can't hear anyone other than Owyn from the Arena whenever the main character speaks.
hes also the main character voice in Gothic II.. :)
Damn.
I don't recognize this game as a sequel to Unreal. Unreal was a journey that I'll remember forever. Unreal II was... a game. It had nearly nothing in common with the feel of the first one in my opinion. There's the Skaarj shoved in, but that feels to me like a cameo in a different game than like an Unreal game.
I'm so glad I skipped this one. When Civvie said that that's the fastest the character goes, I just laughed. That's like a major faux pas that disqualifies this game from being an Unreal game. The Skaarj are also unnecessary beefed up. They looked really cool in Unreal.
Just wanted to let you know I picked up Unreal Gold because of this comment and I was not disappointed
@@ctrouble2309 Nice! I have bought an Unreal Anthology a long time ago, but I lost my CD...
Yeah, Unreal 2 had almost nothing to do with original game. Even though I actually like it, It still makes me wonder what the devs where thinking when they decided to make a sequel to game that has hardly anything to do with the 1st one.
Maybe it's true with nostalgic feelings, but I've just played Unreal and Unreal 2 in the row. And Unreal 2 is so much superior than original one, it's kinda easy on normal difficulty but plays very well on Unreal difficulty. Also it looks gorgeous in 2K resolution with everything maxed out, actually looks much better than on this video, maybe because of video compression or because I've played patched version which I bought on GOG. That sad thing that Unreal 2 wasn't finished, game was just sold as is, because Atari happened.
However fun or un-fun Unreal 2 was, there was something it did that I haven't really seen many other games do that I actually super enjoyed. It was an ultimately small thing that most people could have forgotten in mere moments of it happening.
Dalton and Ne'Bon explain backstory/lore/whatever to the player in what would normally be seen as the opposite way around. Ne'Bon comes up to Dalton and asks about all the weird names and stuff he hears that he knows nothing about. Dalton would obviously know these things and can explain them to him, out loud, in a way that allows the player to learn these things as well without having Dalton seem clueless.
To contrast this, take Shepard from Mass Effect. Shepard is N7, the literal best of the best, he's flying all over space doing cool shit, shooting bad guys and interacting with aliens... but he didn't seem aware of what the Genophage was. Yeah, sure, humans have only been a part of the galactic community at large for about 30 years, but come on. They could at least give him a bullet point summary of super-important galactic events.
that's not really any better since na'ban is an utterly annoying and boring character, not to the extent dalton is but still.
oh and it's also ＩＮＣＲＥＤＩＢＬＹ fucking tedious.
Well honestly Shepard knows vaguely about the genophage, he knew it was a touchy subject for both Salarians and Krogans. Serving in the Alliance as a grunt until he made Commander, he probably didn't interact with too many extraterrestrials and thus didn't actually understand what the genophage was or why it was such a sore spot. Now him not really knowing his way around the citadel despite being an alliance officer and thus needing to be on the citadel every once in a while is the part where I agree with you.
Can agree, wish more games make the player character the actual expository guy/gal.
By the way, Shepard not knowing much and being chatty has its charm. Besides, without it, we wouldn't have "I should go".
This is a great point and a smart move by the Devs.
I'm okay with games that let the player not know in-depth lore right away. Giving us information through the world design and contextually in conversation without dumping exposition. There are clever, subtle ways to deliver the world-building and I think this game tried something that just didn't quite work out, given the writing itself.
>epic games doesn't make bad games
oof that didn't age well
Most games are fine, but not amazing. They have enough money and resources to make decent games that aren't awful.
theacp127 I think you’re forgetting about Fortnite?
@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 While the fandom for that game is really annoying, the game is pretty good overall. I don't play it myself but Epic has put a lot of work into it at this point to make it so popular.
I don't know, Gears of War was always god awful
@@DeadManSinging1 What Gears of War were you playing? It's one of the best selling franchises. I haven't played them in a while but I really liked them.
14:18
**what**
Accompanied with the first note from master of puppets?
Oh my god that's the first thought I had too
Even better, the next three notes can almost match up to what he says next. But it doesn't, because anyone who knows the song can fill it in for themselves.
Indeed
Why I'm here lol
damn this scared the shit out of me! nice one
lol the main character always sounds like he's reading a wikipedia entry for whatever he's talking about.
Damn
I could feel my hair growing listening to that tedious "dialogue".
the "Master Of Puppets" bit always gets me. Brilliant
Between the exposition and the sluggish pace, this game feels like a Star Wars prequel.
I don't know, this game sure doesn't have really good side material that makes it actually really good.
the head on the stick looks just like DSP lol
xD
"I dont want to have my head on a pike" What a fucking detractor meme, let me just lean in manual ban on this Skarrj here.
FUCKING GLITCHED DECAPITATION MECHANICS
Nothing he could do
He did nothing wrong
Soooo...the impression I'm getting is that Unreal II tried way too hard to copy Halo and failed even harder?
Also, Pro Unreal _1_ when? ;)
Three years later, I still appreciate the incipit chord of Master Of Puppets on that "WHAT?!" like the first time.
Wait, this review is over now? Damn.
"Damn."
Anyone here remember Brute Force? Watching this makes me nostalgic for Brute Force.
Jennifer LePage I played it on Classic Xbox in co-op with my brother back in the day. Still been meaning to go back to it.
I remember it, the placeholder for Halo 2 that was actually pretty good.
One if the few original Xbox titles that was worth something.
@@williamsmith666 The Xbox had heaps of solid original titles.
Truth be told, this "sequel" was actually made by a different developer, Legend Entertainment. Makes scene for how different (and dull) this game became since it was such a dull Epic game; for an Epic game not made by Epic Games at all.
Okay, I'm going now.
Epic is Still responsible for who they give their flagship game license to.
however, people are mad at Epic for different reasons nowadays haha
When the main character said "damn"... I felt that
Yeah
This deserves a revisit Civvie !
You're *Damn* right it does.
Civvie, I really love your reviews and gameplay videos of old games.
The first game was truly special. This is below average, what a shame...
What a rotten way for a series to die.
Damn.
Man, I still play the original from time to time
"Why split one weapon into two weapons?"
UT2016: *Laughs nervously*
Multiplayer games at least have the consideration of "do we want players to always get both of these together"
She says, “A squad of marines made a commando raid.” Holy shit that is too many wrong words jammed in there. Games need more Commando Raids.
Game: "...we beat off the aliens..."
Civvie 11: "...Can I have it in my mouth this time?" (around 31:50 min mark)
All this low hanging fruit.
Well, if nobody picks it, it'll rot.
That "Damn" cracks me up every time.
Same lmao it gets me every time. I wish it made a comeback in the newer episodes.
Damn.
Easily my most missed Civvie joke.
Well, the dream came true folks.
I remember playing on my Xbox back in the day, well I don’t but I do remember nearly falling asleep many times while playing it.
You know it's bad when even an FPS makes you fall asleep.
Im here just after civvie uploaded unreal 1 episode
what about you ?
I bought this when it came out thinking, "It's Unreal, it should be fun." The disappointment was very high. Epic figured out the exact code for programming boring so needless to say I didn't get very far in it before just sort of moving on to something else.
Christopher Blair+ The only major issue is this game wasn't developed by Epic, it was made by Legend Entertainment, Legend also did Unreal 1's expansion, Return to Na Pali, which both later got released as Unreal Gold. :)
10:33 Unreal 1 is a great example of less is more - no one spoke english, all of the story is delivered via text (I think it's entirely optional to read), and every 'cinematic event' happened in real time. There were lots of memorable levels with fairly logical progression... I didn't realise the expansion was so fucked though.
That is why Doom 2016 is much better game than Doom Eternal
you're wrong: the official expansion for Unreal1 "Return2NaPali" was really good
@@micheleraurorhi2021 Actually unironically agree, and it's not even nostalgia speaking, I played it very recently. Hell, I even liked the voice acting, female one at least. She just sounds so tired and wants to get out asap, it's immersive you know. I only wish you encountered more of mercenary squads, they offered a nice challenge, just don't let them have hitscan weapons please.
There's a mod floating around called RTNPUE (Return to Na Pali Ultimate Edition) which supposedly "fixes" the expansion and was even praised by haters, so I'm guessing it's worth checking it out.
@@micheleraurorhi2021 Many people would disagree with you, and its full title is "Unreal Mission Pack 1: Return to Napali".
All text is optional if you're stubborn or illiterate enough
I didn't like Unreal II, when it came out, mainly because they completely got rid of the atmosphere of the first game and instead tried to make some sort of space opera blockbaster (similar to Halo, probably). Unreal was all about solitude and survival on a mysterius and hostile, but beautiful alien planet. And Epic Games managed to nail this aspect perfectly, in fact better than anyone else at the time. The second game didn't need all that bullshit cliched mediocre plot, chatty dumb characters, tired twists. Sometimes, less is more. I was so disappointed with this game that I bought GameCube, because of Metroid Prime series, which had some of that first Unreal vibe and atmosphere. And I must say Retro Studios did much better job than Legend.
ITs funny because the first Unreal game was a massive influence on Halo.
Uncle Fester no it wasn’t. What makes you think that?
Alien was. Not Unreal.
@@TheJayson8899 It was though, it also influenced Metroid Prime.
@@semvision That's not helpful. To argue you need to actually use points to backup your opinion. "It was." "It wasn't." "It was." Not exactly the most profound of conversation, is it?
Unreal had no effect on Halo's gameplay which was totally unique, and Unreal didn't do much in this regard innovative by itself. Story wise, well, Halo is a cinematic story driven experience and Unreal has no dialogue, no backstory, next to no cinematics and tells the only story it has through in-game text which doesn't exist in Halo. I don't understand why you think it influenced Halo. Because it's sci-fi and an FPS? That it?
*similar to Halo, probably*
It feels exactly as if they tried to copy Halo.
I love how Civvie talks about and plays all the games from my past!
Pro Unreal! Give the game the respect It deserves.
Hear, hear!
14:17 That split second sound clip at 14 minutes and 18 seconds is the beginning of Metallica's "Master of Puppets" isn't it?
Yes it was. Good ear. 😉
One of the things that bugs me about Unreal 2 is its writing. The developers claimed that story was very important to them, since they were once an adventure game company. I can understand that, and i support the idea of an Unreal game with a more in depth story. It's just that the writing isn't as good or as deep as the writer or the developers intended it to be. A shame, since I think the writer wrote some of Legend's best early adventure games. They could've made Dalton and Aida less stupid. The story exposition cutscenes were very ill advised in their execution. The rest of Unreal 2's problems were due to an overambitious design goals that couldn't have been met, and level designers were more focused on background details than with the overall level design. There are so many ways Unreal 2 could be improved. Maybe as a mod. Your in-depth analysis, Civvie, is certainly helpful in demonstrating what didn't work in Unreal 2's design.
Sometimes less is more. Unreal managed to have a better story than U2 and it barely had any story.
Indeed. I mean, Unreal did have a story to tell through its translator journals, and those journals still were better told than U2. Plus, the world of Na Pali just felt more developed and immersive than the multiple planets you visit in U2.
Well, even without the journals, Unreal manages to tell most of its story points: the Na'Li are oppressed by the Skaarj, the Prisoner eventually takes on their role as this sort of messiah to the locals (see also the relief in one the major temples), the whole journey - from the crashed prison ship and to the alien overlords' base topped with desperate escape on the stolen shuttle - all of it was coherent, masterfully woven together and didn't felt contrived. From deepest chasms to highest peaks, from villages to abandoned fortresses, from gritty high-tech mines to ancient temples, from crashed spaceships to islands floating in sky, Unreal is, well, real. As much as it was a technological marvel at the time (and still quite the looker to this day thanks to the aesthetics), it was more - it was what few games can truly provide - an aforementioned journey.
Unreal 2 felt like a poorly put together sci-fi TV series with stock characters and plot that was jumping between places without much thought. It had quite a few nice ideas, a pair or so somewhat interesting designs, some nice tracks, but it was by no means a journey. As an aside - while I love gritty cyberpunkish 90s style of UT99, I can't help but feel regret that EPIC has dropped the mystical, even magical feel of original Unreal.
@@nikital.6523 This is very true. Unreal manages to tell you, through gameplay and visual design, the main beats of the story even if you never read a tablet with your translator. This just makes it all the more interesting, and encourages you to find out more in previous playthroughs.
Unreal 2.... well, suffice to say, it doesn't do that.
I would like to have seen some of the meetings where these decisions were made. You have a medium with interactivity as its defining property, and "the way forward" is to take that away in favor of watching muppets act out schlock so banal it would make a 12yr old cringe.
I remember a COD producer beating his chest over how FPS now was 'mature' compared to the 90s. Really now, mechanically lobotomized to be lead by the assault rifle through scripted shounen anime tier bravado. How mature a development.
Every market analysis will tell you that 'the average gamer' is late 20s/early-mid 30s, so why these blockbuster producers make and market their games for 12yrolds is beyond me. Your mom hates Dead Space 2.
'Ya got a minute? Okay...'
Here comes fifteen minutes of un-skippable exposition!
Nooooooo....
I need a button like the easy button that just says “damn”
It’s a mixed bag to go wandering around TH-cam randomly video hopping. This channel though is gold.
That was fun :). The only good memory I keep from this game is that my PC experienced a very specific graphical bug when I first installed it. For some of the characters the colors for the cloth didn't load properly, and they were just covered in their skin color. And yeah, Aida was one of them XD
Michael Mack's voice keeps surprising me because I'm too used to hearing him speak as every male Redguard in The Elder Scrolls: IV - Oblivion. He was also Cyrus in The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard, but most of us remember Oblivion more than we do that disappointing game, which I'm surprised didn't lead to Todd Howard getting his career shit-canned like it would in a world that makes sense.
"How do you fk up Unreal?"
How do you do it with every attempt that follows, is a better question.
Nothing wrong with the Tournament/Championship games.
@@TheJayson8899 well, for 3 they forgot colors exist and forced a tortured backronym to explain why capture the flag is a thing in real war. That's something wrong. Not fatally so, I guess, but still.
"eventually you beat them off, and-"
Civvie has always been great. This might be old but it isn't crap 😂
It was this first fps game that i watched my uncle play that got me into video games. This is pure nostalgia.
Baurus and Cortana's wacky space adventure
Aida is not voiced by Cortana
I remember all the gaming magazines at the time praising this game before it even came out. They kept focusing on the grass blowing in the wind and that the game engine does this in real time. Absolute idiots.
To be fair a lot of those games were moreso trying to be innovative technologically than making like a really fantastic game, and those magazines focused on the technicals and the visuals moreso than the game which led to people comparing visuals to overall quality. Like for its time this game looks really good, but it also looks boring to play.
@@sorrenblitz805
I played it when it came out and found it fairly engaging and fun. Even as a kid I did notice however that the enemies were bullet sponges, but the weapons were awesome. Some of the settings were very immersive like the planet Hell. This had a lot of potential.
you say "old and crap" which yeah, I guess it is but jokes on you Civvie - I still come back and enjoy these and you can't stop me.
I recognised that one power chord fourteen minutes in.
...
And now I will pause the video to listen to Metallica. Cheerio!
Holy hell, I played this as a child and have been looking for it for YEARS. Fond memories.
13:35 Lmao it's like he didn't even try to hide that he was reading from a script
I beat Unreal, and I was so excited to play unreal 2. I was disappointed.
Played this on the first Xbox. Handled like shit but I did beat it at some point. So glad I found a channel that reminded me of this thing. Fun channel. I have been binge watching all the videos. Thanks Civvie.
I like how the recent Unreal video is still very on point to whats being discussed here.
The Master of Puppets gag still gets me after so many years
Man, this game was NEAT, but such a let down.
As an Unreal fan, and I mean the OG Unreal, seeing the Skaarj get turned into big beefy hulks was so disappointing when they were agile flesh blenders in their old incarnation.
Not to mention the Izari, which kinda made the ASMD a staff weird ass weapon.
And dont get me started on the fucking Krall... from the NEXT Unreal titles... sheesh
Fun fact: Ida's name is actually a reference. It's short for "I'd, uh, rather be playing a different game."
2:34 Is that a 3D chess board from Star Trek?
rnc yeah 3d chess is a real thing thanks to star trek
i believe 3d chess predates star trek
Civvies backstory is giving me heavy scp vibes
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Is a middle aged overweight male who reviews video games and shits on bad movies he gives entertainment to the staff as they force him to make TH-cam videos
The hype leading up to this game was massive.
It was quite a technical marvel and a leap from 90's games
No game was close to beat it until doom 3 and later on HL2 came out
They were all three massive technical achievements.
However I wasn't fan of the direction taken of any of them despite having some really creative things on each of them.
Even in Unreal 2
"They beat off the Skaarj"... That's one way to handle them I guess!!
Your channel is a blessing, Civvie.
I'm sorry, but the "Go to Hell" joke was actually funny. Because the joke isn't that he's trying to get to Hell because Aida told him, but because they are literally going to a place called "Hell. It's a very clever subversion. I will die on this hill.
"epic games dosent make bad games"
Oh no
Fortnite isn’t really a bad game, just extremely overrated. Not sure why I’m replying a year later.
@AgentFrenchFry explain why it's so mechanically bad
@AgentFrenchFry You dont get it do you we were hooked on heroes 3 and diablo 2 and doom 2 now our children need to be hooked up on fortnite and overwatch and meth
@@MrSp0iler I’m surprised people still got through the cursed days of civvies dungeon
Damn.
I kinda loved this game in some ways at the time. It was definitely milk toast safe in its story and execution, but its atmosphere was affective and the presentation was top tier. blandness is its worse offense.
Me watching in 2023
“8 year old game”
… game came out 20 years ago
Am I the only one that actually liked this game? I found out you can speedup the movement speed with a console command and that made me really enjoy the game.
No Thing+ Unreal II: The Awakening is a really great game, it's a lot of fun, but the movement speed is definitely a problem if you playing just the base game(Should have been just like Unreal Gold's), however there is a mod called SOverhaul(which can be found on google, you will find it on Nexus mods) which fixes the games movement issues, it makes the walk key a sprint key, adds new weapons, and even restores and fixes the cut Botmatch mode, highly recommend it! :D
@@UltimateDominion you can dowbload a mod to play UT2K4 with the weapons from this game. It's pretty fun.
@@TEMINIX Nice, though I think I am content with Unreal 1 and Unreal 2, as their campaign modes, specially Unreal 1's is simply amazing. :)
After watching your Blood 2 run through this is a masterpiece in comparison
Hey Civvie, as a relatively new subscriber, I have two questions:
1- Since this video have "(old and crap)" on its title, does this mean you're going to revisit this game later? (Though the only crappiness I could notice, apart from the game itself of course, is the sound quality when you're talking)
2- Pro Unreal 1 when?
Yeah, Pro Unreal when, Civvie?
Sound mixing, and general lethargic quality of the narration. It can be attributed to growing pains, his later work gets much better than this. That's not to say this video is without entertainment value, otherwise it would've been nixed from his channel.
Also, Pro UT 1999 and 2004 and Pro Quake III: Arena and IV if he wants to do so?
Edit: Also, Unreal Tournament 3, especially its campaign... wonder if he's gonna call it better than Unreal II?
I wish when Dalton said "You coulda smuggled booze on board anytime you wanted." Isaac would have gotten royally pissed because he didn't think of that. That would've at least broke up the monotony.
It took me a while to realize where else have I heard the "hoo hoo" from Civvie's main theme
It was in Baldi's Basics. Not my proudest realization moment.
The "hoo" sound is also a basic midi instrument/voice. So don't be too hard in yourself.
science cannot explain why this video is so comforting. civvie is a bob ross, perfect asmr to fall asleep to
Friendly reminder that if this guy reaches 100k Subscribers Civvie will play Duke Nukem Forever
This review is GOLD. I've watched couple times and never gets old
Legend Entertainment made some of the best games of all time. Adventure games, mostly. Mission Critical, anyone? I don't know how they ended up with this.
My favorite thing about this video is the cropped cutscenes because Civvie didn't use the widescreen fix.
Also, protip for anybody trying to play the game: the loading time is tied to the framerate, which is why it takes 40 seconds to load in the video, but so are the physics. Use RTSS and setup a toggle button for a 60 FPS limit so you can greatly decrease the loading times and make sure the game doesn't break.
I played this when it came out and honestly couldn't remember a damn thing up until now. I did have some pre-alpha build of the game in like 2002 and that was something special back then for a kid without broadband access to the internet. Marvelling at that shit with 10 FPS is the only thing I remember about Unreal 2.
I chuckled a bit when they mentioned the medical discharge: here in the UK, if a medically discharged soldier appears to be in perfect physical health, rather often that excuse has actually been used to get rid of them because employment laws here loophole the dishonourable discharge into being illegal.
I remember this being a really good damn when it first came out. I even remember reading a review that said something like "This game isn't ground breaking. It will likely be mostly forgotten in the future and only really remembered as a game with beautiful graphics,". The graphics really haven't aged well at all.
Moving slow in an "Unreal Game" is definitely what everyone wanted..
The multiplayer for Unreal 2 (XMP) was _fucking amazing_
The multiplayer for this was kind of cool. Other than that it's an unexceptional game, though it does hold a place for me purely as I played it as a child and didn't really have any standards.
i got this game back when it first released, and i was too impressed by the great graphics to realize how shitty the game actually was. i was tricked into thinking it's awesome. those were some pretty sweet visuals for that time period. now that i look back on it, i feel like a dipshit for ever thinking this game was good.
I love the call backs to the Doom movie throughout this.
So this is where the "damn" came from.
21:10 Okay, the line delivery is still shit, but the writing just became 10/10. Absolutely hilarious, laughed like a hyena.
man the Unreal series really is a slice of 00s nostalgia
The way you pronounce "Na-Pali" sounds like "Napoli"
When this first came out, I thought graphics like that was absolutely amazing. And the game was absolutely computer-melting relative to what I had, heh.
actually my first unreal i ever palyed back in the days. really enjoyed playing this
Wow. That dialogue and delivery could not be any more boring. I am impressed!
Maybe I enjoyed it a lot because I didn't know it was considered bad when I was a kid. But I still like it
same here, it's fun to come back to from time to time