Finally , a review which mentions the aspect ratio (at 7.10mm) . Anyone who shoots a lot of verticals knows how bad the 3.2 ratio is for vertical shots . This camera is a great compliment for M43 shooters where one can get great ratios options for the images , including 4.3 (but also 5.4)
@@geoffreybassett6741 Soo true . I sell my pictures in art galleries and the 3.2 ratio is imo useless for vertical images . Can t wait to get the camera and the 50mm lens
Nice review. You put it well that you feel good when you shoot with a Fujifilm camera. Honestly I feel the same, I get this joy with GFX which I don't get with my Sony FF.
Great review. Thank you for mentioning the unimportant lack of 4K video, I'm one of those that wants this camera for the landscape & stills image quality and access to GF lenses. I would like to see a stills only MF camera from Fujifilm someday. I think this camera kit would be an excellent pairing with an X-T3 kit.
This camera is amazing! Yeah it sucks compared to the 100 or 100s but they cost 2x-3x as much. It’s great compared to the original 50 and the 50R. And has ibis! This will be an excellent “entry point” for many first time medium format cameras.
Another great review from CameraStore. I've not yet handled this camera/lens but the image quality from the bigger format is always a plus. If you pay more you usually get more. I have the impression that there is the capability to capture high quality and exciting images with this combo. I would like to add the GF 110mm F/2 R LM WR lens. Such a package seems likely to meet many of my requirements and right now in Nov 2022 the price point is better than before. But still a lot of cash....needed. Thanks.
I love how your reviews are so positive. You find joyful little pockets on almost everything you review including this one. Overall it seems like a few too many corners were cut off of the 100s version but all of your logic is still sound. It’s a great entry point. One thing I’d like to see you do, since you are in Canada and have access to more frequent aurora views and lower light pollution than a lot of areas in the world, Is some Astro photography. How does this camera/sensor, and it’s 100 megapixel sibling, perform in Astro photography? I know it’s a niche use, but it’s an niche camera too, and I think astro could offer a useful perspective.
I know I'll be the only one here to say this but, I wish they released an improved 50R. I LOVE my 50R, but I'd imagine with improved ergonomics, handling and IBIS, at a similar price point, I'd trade up.
I think too many reviewers Forget the purpose of a medium format camera is picture quality. If I wanted to shoot sport or action I grab my Canon 5D Mark lll.
As Canadians, I think it's impossible for you not to be polite. This is a very good review that does mention some issues that an Aussie reviewer addressed more directly. He felt that it was overpriced for all the reasons you mentioned. It is really hard to believe they are using a sensor that old in a new camera. It should be priced at 1/2 the price of the GFS 100s. I always enjoy your reviews and I'm looking forward to the X-H2 review when the camera is released.
I do have the 50r the 100 and the 100s. With the 50sII coming out I am thinking of swapping the 50R and the 100 and going with the 100s and the 50SII. Main reasons for the latter: IBIS, lesser resolution will probably works best with a lot of adaptive lenses, and the possibility that it will be a better low light performer. In addition the lower megapixel count may make an easier and better performer for astrophotography. I know there is a bit of controversy about the sensor in this camera, but I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) there isn’t a 50MP sensor at this time that could substitute for this one.
Sadly it takes 14bit raw photos instead of the common 16bit raw photos of nearly all digital medium format cameras. This is serious with the raw photo processing of highlights and shadows. Nevertheless the 4000$ for a brand new digital medium format camera is impressive and after some years it will certainly fall to 3000$ close to many full frame digital cameras.
problemat1que With raw processing there is difference. With the 8bit of Jpeg files every sensor is the same. The raw unprocessed files make the difference.
Good question. For me personally, I'd honestly go with the 50S II over the 100s because I prefer the more manageable file sizes, and I love working with the image files that come from the 50S II sensor. However, I think Dave would go with the 100s because he loves having the extra resolution and flexibility for cropping etc. - Evelyn
Agree but then 99% will complain about the much higher price. The sensor tech is not the same as in A1 so getting faster readout and sync speed isn't possible.
but the focus system is still the same as in the original 50 ? not nearly as fast as the 100 - someone who has used both care to comment ? pixels, fine with me using the older sensor - 100 is overkill for me... I saw files from the 50R, they were NICE....
Call it what it is, a second gen GFXs50 in a smaller body with a better price point. Not a complaint, I could care less about video and this would NOT be used for shooting sports. Would love to see a $2,500.00 price point.
I was very surprised that the guy is trying to shoot his son playing sports with a medium format camera I am complaining because he was not successful I would think he would know better.
Fuji are very smart with their sales strategies and will lead a future mad rush from ff to medium format. Plenty of people will be lusting particularly after having the gateway drugs of fuji x cameras :)
Not until they release lenses that actually make any sense. Right now, Canon and Sony offer lenses that defeat the extra DOF control of the MF since they are faster lenses and their sensors make it very hard to see any IQ differences to the FUJI MF. On top of that, both new Sony and Canon cameras are far superior in video and AF so that makes the Fujis a bad option. Plus many more features that make shooting a much better experience so you can focus (no pun intended)on the shoot as the camera basically disappears. And lets not forget is not REALLY MF..just not a good overall option unless you just want ton say I shoot "MF"
You did not metion that the sensor is 7 years old. Sensor technology have improved after 7 years. You said that landscape photographers prefer 4:3 over 3:2, or did I misunderstod? Landscape photographers don't prefer 4:3 unless they only show pictures on Instagram.
I have the original GFX50s and Sony latest A7rIV. That 7 yr old sensor is still better than any recent FF for picture quality. AF is much slower but for life of things that doesn't matter.
Landscape photographers don't only shoot in landscape orientation. The 3:2 not working as well for portrait shots so for most of us who occasionally rotate the camera the 4:3 ratio strikes a good balance for both. There is not rule that a landscape shot has to be "slim".
Its not really medium format so you can't compare the price to the older real medium format cameras. and how much image quality are you getting over a high mp full frame camera that it is worth the sacrifice of so so auto focus, low frames per second and so so view finder and limited pricey lenses. and because its a bigger sensor, to keep the lenses smaller the lenses aren't as fast as allot full frame lenses. so you are not even getting a more shallow Depth of field from the bigger sensor. so personally even though its a nice camera, its hard to sell me on this camera system.
it is not for everyone.This camera gives you sublime image quality that none of you cameras or any other camera except 33x44 or bigger can compete.It is not low price it is not small it is not for video and it is not fast.It is not for you!!!!!But i will buy it xaxaxaa
@@burritobrosvideos8060 it is not that simple nor you have the same capabilities.But film medium format is a choice if you love image output.Big format rocks too the 8x10 but all this equipment costs and film costs too.You need an amazing and pricey scanner if you want to scan seriously...The price of this new gfx is ridicolous.I do not give that much attention to the numbers(33x44)as to the image output which is amazing!!!!Rent one gfx and you will be surprised!!!
@@burritobrosvideos8060 he didn't say it is, i have shot with 6*7 and no you can't get better result than 50mp digital gfx files lol. when you see these gfx cameras selling way under 3k used and lenses just about the same price as FF glass and ends up giving you superior quality in images, i don't think those who use FF like me nikonz7 system, gfx files still rocks.. its just not for everyone thats all .
@@Paldentseringsherpa I shot with these and the image quality is marginally better at best. The cameras are significantly worse than full frame cameras overall. I'd stick with the z7 until these have phase detection af. The old 6x7 cameras have better images than any digital camera.
Well, name the sensors that are so much better then! Remember it got 6.5 stops DR. Many good sensors out there but I can't see any better unless going for the GFX 100 cams or a Phase one. For stills this sensor is still one of the best out the. Awful for video but great for stills.
@@hauxon gfx 100 is much better overall. A7riv has the same detail and virtually the same Dr. Nikon z7 has same DR and slightly less detail. Every Camera mentioned has better or same fps, autofocus, handling, battery, ibis etc. Aside from all that, if price matters than ff makes sense. If price doesn't matter than gfx100 makes more sense. The 50r or 50s just falls in this outdated no man's land where very few people will benefit from.
Man up, grow a pair downstairs. Autofocus? Unless you're shooting Valentino Rossi around a GP race track. Manual focus is reality. Learn to be a photographer instead of some smug 'Neo' smartphone user.
Finally , a review which mentions the aspect ratio (at 7.10mm) . Anyone who shoots a lot of verticals knows how bad the 3.2 ratio is for vertical shots . This camera is a great compliment for M43 shooters where one can get great ratios options for the images , including 4.3 (but also 5.4)
Exactly! Major selling point in terms of composition that no one mentions.
@@geoffreybassett6741 Soo true . I sell my pictures in art galleries and the 3.2 ratio is imo useless for vertical images . Can t wait to get the camera and the 50mm lens
Nice review. You put it well that you feel good when you shoot with a Fujifilm camera. Honestly I feel the same, I get this joy with GFX which I don't get with my Sony FF.
Great review. Thank you for mentioning the unimportant lack of 4K video, I'm one of those that wants this camera for the landscape & stills image quality and access to GF lenses. I would like to see a stills only MF camera from Fujifilm someday. I think this camera kit would be an excellent pairing with an X-T3 kit.
This camera is amazing! Yeah it sucks compared to the 100 or 100s but they cost 2x-3x as much. It’s great compared to the original 50 and the 50R. And has ibis! This will be an excellent “entry point” for many first time medium format cameras.
Another great review from CameraStore. I've not yet handled this camera/lens but the image quality from the bigger format is always a plus. If you pay more you usually get more. I have the impression that there is the capability to capture high quality and exciting images with this combo. I would like to add the GF 110mm F/2 R LM WR lens. Such a package seems likely to meet many of my requirements and right now in Nov 2022 the price point is better than before. But still a lot of cash....needed. Thanks.
I love how your reviews are so positive. You find joyful little pockets on almost everything you review including this one. Overall it seems like a few too many corners were cut off of the 100s version but all of your logic is still sound. It’s a great entry point.
One thing I’d like to see you do, since you are in Canada and have access to more frequent aurora views and lower light pollution than a lot of areas in the world, Is some Astro photography. How does this camera/sensor, and it’s 100 megapixel sibling, perform in Astro photography? I know it’s a niche use, but it’s an niche camera too, and I think astro could offer a useful perspective.
As always a fun and informative review. This camera shoots xpan format, in Acros. 🤩 It's pretty tempting. 🤠
I know I'll be the only one here to say this but, I wish they released an improved 50R. I LOVE my 50R, but I'd imagine with improved ergonomics, handling and IBIS, at a similar price point, I'd trade up.
I agree. I own GFX 50R and the only thing I miss sometimes is stabilization.
TB, feel free to think of this as an improved 50R. 😃
I think too many reviewers Forget the purpose of a medium format camera is picture quality. If I wanted to shoot sport or action I grab my Canon 5D Mark lll.
As Canadians, I think it's impossible for you not to be polite. This is a very good review that does mention some issues that an Aussie reviewer addressed more directly. He felt that it was overpriced for all the reasons you mentioned. It is really hard to believe they are using a sensor that old in a new camera. It should be priced at 1/2 the price of the GFS 100s.
I always enjoy your reviews and I'm looking forward to the X-H2 review when the camera is released.
We tend to be polite but fair with our reviews. Thank you for the comment.
I do have the 50r the 100 and the 100s. With the 50sII coming out I am thinking of swapping the 50R and the 100 and going with the 100s and the 50SII. Main reasons for the latter: IBIS, lesser resolution will probably works best with a lot of adaptive lenses, and the possibility that it will be a better low light performer. In addition the lower megapixel count may make an easier and better performer for astrophotography. I know there is a bit of controversy about the sensor in this camera, but I believe (and correct me if I am wrong) there isn’t a 50MP sensor at this time that could substitute for this one.
Old sensor with contrast detect, but massive kudos to Fuji for trying to bridge the price gap between MF and FF.
Sadly it takes 14bit raw photos instead of the common 16bit raw photos of nearly all digital medium format cameras. This is serious with the raw photo processing of highlights and shadows.
Nevertheless the 4000$ for a brand new digital medium format camera is impressive and after some years it will certainly fall to 3000$ close to many full frame digital cameras.
Frankly is there a noticeable difference?
Marrow Films With jpeg files of the camera there is no difference. With raw photo files processing the difference is enormous.
The last two bits are just noise, no 4433 camera today has 16 bits worth of dynamic range.
problemat1que With raw processing there is difference. With the 8bit of Jpeg files every sensor is the same. The raw unprocessed files make the difference.
Quite balanced, it didn't feel like a salesman's review. Candidly talks about the pro's and cons. Well done!
Thanks, appreciate the comment.
so what I would like to know ... if $$ was not an issue would you buy the GFX 50S II or it's bigger sibling?
Good question. For me personally, I'd honestly go with the 50S II over the 100s because I prefer the more manageable file sizes, and I love working with the image files that come from the 50S II sensor. However, I think Dave would go with the 100s because he loves having the extra resolution and flexibility for cropping etc. - Evelyn
50MP on a medium format camera is a sweet spot for most portrait work. IBIS is awesome. But no phase detect. Good grief, that's just silly.
No it's not, you're silly.
Just looked on your site to purchase one. Why are you selling those for $1,000 OVER FujiFilm's retail pricing.
Fujifilm Gfx-50s sensor with Sony A1 processing, that would made gfx unbeatable. 🥰 A photographer's dream come true moment would that be.
Agree but then 99% will complain about the much higher price. The sensor tech is not the same as in A1 so getting faster readout and sync speed isn't possible.
but the focus system is still the same as in the original 50 ? not nearly as fast as the 100 - someone who has used both care to comment ? pixels, fine with me using the older sensor - 100 is overkill for me... I saw files from the 50R, they were NICE....
AF can't be as fast as GFX 100 or 100s as this is still contrast based AF.
Call it what it is, a second gen GFXs50 in a smaller body with a better price point. Not a complaint, I could care less about video and this would NOT be used for shooting sports. Would love to see a $2,500.00 price point.
I was very surprised that the guy is trying to shoot his son playing sports with a medium format camera I am complaining because he was not successful I would think he would know better.
But that sensor is ancient! No phase detect, huh.
So for $1000 more I can get double the resolution, phase detect and worthwhile video. Easy decision.
They are talking Canadian. This camera is $4000 US, the 100S is $6000.
Yup but for $2000 more
So what? A stupid thing to say. It's 4 years old and is sublime.
TH-cam compression really butchered the video on this one. It's almost like this was shot on Pentax K-1.
It was shot on a Panasonic GH5.
Does look great, but still too much for me. Thanks for the review. Stay safe.
I buy used gear. Im looking forward to picking up the older version soon
Fuji are very smart with their sales strategies and will lead a future mad rush from ff to medium format. Plenty of people will be lusting particularly after having the gateway drugs of fuji x cameras :)
Haha, you can't go back after experiencing those gateway film simulations on X-series.
Not until they release lenses that actually make any sense. Right now, Canon and Sony offer lenses that defeat the extra DOF control of the MF since they are faster lenses and their sensors make it very hard to see any IQ differences to the FUJI MF. On top of that, both new Sony and Canon cameras are far superior in video and AF so that makes the Fujis a bad option. Plus many more features that make shooting a much better experience so you can focus (no pun intended)on the shoot as the camera basically disappears.
And lets not forget is not REALLY MF..just not a good overall option unless you just want ton say I shoot "MF"
@@shaolin95 There's more to lens quality than DOF control
You did not metion that the sensor is 7 years old. Sensor technology have improved after 7 years.
You said that landscape photographers prefer 4:3 over 3:2, or did I misunderstod? Landscape photographers don't prefer 4:3 unless they only show pictures on Instagram.
I have the original GFX50s and Sony latest A7rIV. That 7 yr old sensor is still better than any recent FF for picture quality. AF is much slower but for life of things that doesn't matter.
Landscape photographers don't only shoot in landscape orientation. The 3:2 not working as well for portrait shots so for most of us who occasionally rotate the camera the 4:3 ratio strikes a good balance for both. There is not rule that a landscape shot has to be "slim".
Too bad they still can't get descent AF.
Limits the usage for these cameras
Seems like I'm still better off with my Z7.
Nice hat......
Its not really medium format so you can't compare the price to the older real medium format cameras. and how much image quality are you getting over a high mp full frame camera that it is worth the sacrifice of so so auto focus, low frames per second and so so view finder and limited pricey lenses. and because its a bigger sensor, to keep the lenses smaller the lenses aren't as fast as allot full frame lenses. so you are not even getting a more shallow Depth of field from the bigger sensor. so personally even though its a nice camera, its hard to sell me on this camera system.
it is not for everyone.This camera gives you sublime image quality that none of you cameras or any other camera except 33x44 or bigger can compete.It is not low price it is not small it is not for video and it is not fast.It is not for you!!!!!But i will buy it xaxaxaa
@@crystalous its not medium format though. You could buy an old film camera and get better quality.
@@burritobrosvideos8060 it is not that simple nor you have the same capabilities.But film medium format is a choice if you love image output.Big format rocks too the 8x10 but all this equipment costs and film costs too.You need an amazing and pricey scanner if you want to scan seriously...The price of this new gfx is ridicolous.I do not give that much attention to the numbers(33x44)as to the image output which is amazing!!!!Rent one gfx and you will be surprised!!!
@@burritobrosvideos8060 he didn't say it is, i have shot with 6*7 and no you can't get better result than 50mp digital gfx files lol. when you see these gfx cameras selling way under 3k used and lenses just about the same price as FF glass and ends up giving you superior quality in images, i don't think those who use FF like me nikonz7 system, gfx files still rocks.. its just not for everyone thats all .
@@Paldentseringsherpa I shot with these and the image quality is marginally better at best. The cameras are significantly worse than full frame cameras overall. I'd stick with the z7 until these have phase detection af.
The old 6x7 cameras have better images than any digital camera.
junk camera. Fuji should be ashamed
I don't think these are going to sell well.
They are still on back order
"More than full frame" yet I will take the Canon R5 or Sony A7R IV any day over that crippled seudo MF camera.
Old sensor
No good
Still the best sensor for stills out there.
@@hrannarhauksson655 no
@@hrannarhauksson655 hell no
Well, name the sensors that are so much better then! Remember it got 6.5 stops DR. Many good sensors out there but I can't see any better unless going for the GFX 100 cams or a Phase one. For stills this sensor is still one of the best out the. Awful for video but great for stills.
@@hauxon gfx 100 is much better overall. A7riv has the same detail and virtually the same Dr. Nikon z7 has same DR and slightly less detail. Every Camera mentioned has better or same fps, autofocus, handling, battery, ibis etc.
Aside from all that, if price matters than ff makes sense. If price doesn't matter than gfx100 makes more sense. The 50r or 50s just falls in this outdated no man's land where very few people will benefit from.
Man up, grow a pair downstairs. Autofocus? Unless you're shooting Valentino Rossi around a GP race track. Manual focus is reality.
Learn to be a photographer instead of some smug 'Neo' smartphone user.