@esimms5101 i mean not really, they've been an average team for years. They were a play in team when they went on the playoff run. This team is living in the past.
@ name another team since 2020 with more consistent success.. Lakers, Bucks, GS, Nuggets and Celtics have won rings.. Heat are more successful than every other franchise and have more consistent playoff success than all those teams period.. 2-1 vs Celtics and Bucks w healthy Jimmy since 2020. You’re statement is utterly false. Kick rocks.
Why is Dan so insistent that Pat Riley is gonna get so much for Butler? Amin made it clear, Butler can opt out and the Heat get nothing. You rarely lose when unloading an aging, declining players. You gain salary cap flexibility and assets
@@saw12367 he definitely will op out, and yeah why trade for him when you can wait till the off season and get him for free. Pat f'd it all up. As a celtics fan can't wait to see this play out.
@@Lunkjohnson Not necessarily. He may not be able to recreate a salary anywhere near the 55+ million he is due next year. It comes down to what the market for a new deal will be. If he can get 2 or 3 years at a high number, then yes he will, but considering his age and availability issues, he may not find a market at that level.
I think we always judge the heat based on the regular season. If healthy in the playoffs, they have beaten Boston, Milwaukee, can beat Cleveland, has beaten New York and in the playoffs they play well enough to overcome the addition of KAT, and can beat Orlando. Playoff Jimmy has been real and aside from his father being on his death bed, Jimmy can get them a ring.
I don't believe any trade talks with the heat until it happens cuz it happens every year. With that said whether JB trades happens or not its officially Tyler Herro's squad.
Everyone doubts the Heat every year and every year the Heat shuts them up. If it wasn't for bad injuries and bad luck for them they would have already won a championship with Jimmy.
You would need to add at least another $30m of salary. So add Wiggins ($26m) or Dray ($24m) plus more filler. MIA would also need to add in or cut players as they would need roster spots for additional players (although if melton was added he would be cut). Moody also signed his extension, which increases the difficulty of including him. Heat would also need enough expiring contracts to fit kuminga's new deal without crossing into 2nd apron. I'm not big on kuminga or moody, but it is still probably the best available package. I would try to replace moody with one of the expiring contracts and get another gs 1st
Yall all some 🤡s Jimmy didn't say he wanted out an the heat never said they were trading him Spo said they blocking out the outside noise they don't care what yall talking about so they might not trade him I bet alot of yall be hurt if the heat doesn't 😂
Oh I hope the Mavs don’t actually consider it. Jimmy would make them worse immediately. Jimmy should have been traded a season or two ago. I have no idea where he goes but I doubt he goes to a real contender.
The FA aspect is overblown. Currently, the only team that would have enough cap space to sign him at $52.4m (his option) is BKN (WAS are next with low $40s). Both are rebuilding. If he leaves MIA will only be around $10m under cap. HOU would need to incentivise taking on brooks & londale contracts, so extra picks/youngsters to be added. Green has a poison pill (ext), so that would be hard. Mavs will need to include kyrie or klay and others (inc pj) and only have about 1 1st available. MIA don't want klay. GS is workable but would need to sell MIA on Wiggins' contract or compensate. Add compensation for melton, looney and/or gp2. Even with kuminga at least 1 needs to be added. But they do have 1sts available. LAL would need to include both available 1sts with little to no protections. That is doubtful due to lebron/butler's ages. Although bron for jimmy might work. But Bron probably says no. DEN, PHX, MIL just no. No one wants MPJ, Beal, Middleton. MIA will also avoid taking on extra salary as they are around $2m short of the 2nd tier.
They will only be about $10m under the cap without him. I think butler is bluffing about opting out without a new deal as the only team with enough cap space without him taking a HUGE paycut is Nets. Anyone else would need to sign and trade.
Bem and Tyler are definitely not leading any championship and today Jimmy is a good second option at best so claiming to be in win now mode is just being clueless or blind
I'll see you guys in June saying how Miami heat shock the NBA. We win with culture and we lose with culture and culture say we are always a win now team
God, people are so pessimistic. Keep doubting this team. When Bam is playing to his potential this team is dangerous and can take out Boston in the playoffs. They've done it before. I'm riding with Jimmy.
It’s nothing available in the off season, Jimmy is the top of the list. Let that sink in 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Meaning "THERE'S" (Got it B****) no one else better than him in free agency this summer smdh.
"There's" not "it's." .....THERE'S nothing available......THERE'S no one else. When did this ridiculous grammatical error start happening? I hear it all the time now.
It’s funny how when people want our players we’re supposed to just suck it up and eat it. But when we want other teams players, we have to sell half of our team. 😂😂😂😂 bs
Stick with him for what? Leading us to the playoffs to only lose, once again? Playing 59/82 games? Acting like a Emo, I’m good. We should’ve traded him during last season (if not earlier)
If this is Herro’s legitimate career breakout year why not just be a buyer and try to win the east? Add another piece and go for it. Why give up and sell now?
Pretty sure Rockets need to give Fred Van Fleet up to make that work financially. Fred Van Fleet Amen Thompson Jabari Smith Cam Whitmore For Jimmy Butler Duncan Robinson Nikola Jovic
Dan is in Miami and doesnt e=understand his own team ?? Miami is not winning now with Jimmy...hes 35 and declining.He doesnt understand where the Heat are right now....
Everyone knows so much bout Heat when it’s time to say they didn’t do enough, won’t be contenders, tellin me every preseason the Sixers would be better… and when they eliminate giannis and tatum multiple years it’s because it was the bubble or Giannis got injured game 1 or Tatum ankle turned in Game 7… how about yall admit, you’ve been wrong about Butler, Herro, Bam and the Heat and hyped up other bum ass teams and players year after year.. gas bags!
Do these guys Not watch heat games. What do you mean "conceding" the season .. they are Not playing for anything now with Jimmy lol.. Riley is not a magician there is no star level player to get for jimmy
When Pat Riley told Jimmy Butler, “ Shut Your Mouth “, this past Play-off Season, I knew Jimmy Butler’s Time in Miami, had run it’s course. So, with that being said, I have a Trade( I already tested it in “ The ESPN NBA Trade Machine( Successful ): Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier to Chicago, for Zach Lavine and Lonzo Ball. Let’s be Real: All 4 Players have Injury Issues. But, I look at Chemistry, Timeline and Need. Lavine and Ball are Younger Players, who fit in Miami Heat’s System. Lavine would be a Great Driver to pair with Tyler Herro’s Outside Game. Lonzo Ball would be a Great Fit with Bam and be The True Floor-Leader Miami needs. Plus, Lonzo Ball can Defend and Play 3 Positions. Most importantly, Lavine and Ball are in that same Age Group/ Timeline as Bam, Herro and Robinson. Now, for Chicago, Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier would be Good Fits, Playing alongside Veteran Players like Vucevic, White, and Dosumo. Plus, Butler could lead that Bulls Team, and transform them into a Tough, Play-in Team. Terry Rozier also helps Chicago with Leadership, Scoring and Toughness. Now, I am not saying that BOTH SIDES WIN THIS TRADE. No, Miami wins this trade, but Chicago becomes a more Competitive Team( if Butler and Rozier are Healthy ).
I personally can't wait to see this play out. Pat is going to get someone's trash for himmy. Himmy is on his last yr. So himmy don't have to go where Pat sends him. All himmy got to do is threaten I'm not signing a extension, and himmy will go exactly where he wants to go for trash.
@@gtgargon Zach Lavine has been Coached Wrong, His Entire Career. If He Played for Miami, He would be FORCED to Play Hard. The thing about Zach is, HE HAS ALL THE PHYSICAL TOOLS AND SKILLS TO BE GREAT; He just needs to be on The Right Team.
Jeremy talks about every Heat player like they are potential stars
Yall just down play everything about them so…
@esimms5101 i mean not really, they've been an average team for years. They were a play in team when they went on the playoff run. This team is living in the past.
@ name another team since 2020 with more consistent success.. Lakers, Bucks, GS, Nuggets and Celtics have won rings.. Heat are more successful than every other franchise and have more consistent playoff success than all those teams period.. 2-1 vs Celtics and Bucks w healthy Jimmy since 2020. You’re statement is utterly false. Kick rocks.
And we love him for it, lol.
I love when Greg Cote gets mad 😂
same lmao, dan is such a dick
“RIGHT NOW! RIGHT NOW!” You said it!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Why is Dan so insistent that Pat Riley is gonna get so much for Butler?
Amin made it clear, Butler can opt out and the Heat get nothing. You rarely lose when unloading an aging, declining players. You gain salary cap flexibility and assets
Bc he’s kind of an idiot when it comes to this
That’s why we should’ve moved him before the season started. The front office is always moving sloppy and slow.
@@saw12367 he definitely will op out, and yeah why trade for him when you can wait till the off season and get him for free. Pat f'd it all up. As a celtics fan can't wait to see this play out.
@@Lunkjohnson Not necessarily. He may not be able to recreate a salary anywhere near the 55+ million he is due next year. It comes down to what the market for a new deal will be. If he can get 2 or 3 years at a high number, then yes he will, but considering his age and availability issues, he may not find a market at that level.
I think we always judge the heat based on the regular season. If healthy in the playoffs, they have beaten Boston, Milwaukee, can beat Cleveland, has beaten New York and in the playoffs they play well enough to overcome the addition of KAT, and can beat Orlando. Playoff Jimmy has been real and aside from his father being on his death bed, Jimmy can get them a ring.
I don't believe any trade talks with the heat until it happens cuz it happens every year. With that said whether JB trades happens or not its officially Tyler Herro's squad.
Everyone doubts the Heat every year and every year the Heat shuts them up. If it wasn't for bad injuries and bad luck for them they would have already won a championship with Jimmy.
What they do last year?
@@jayy88 who was injured? Exactly
@@ismaelrios9369 if you think they would have won even if healthy your crazy
@@ismaelrios9369 Celtics weren’t healthy either btw
Kuminga and Moody and a pick.
You would need to add at least another $30m of salary. So add Wiggins ($26m) or Dray ($24m) plus more filler. MIA would also need to add in or cut players as they would need roster spots for additional players (although if melton was added he would be cut). Moody also signed his extension, which increases the difficulty of including him. Heat would also need enough expiring contracts to fit kuminga's new deal without crossing into 2nd apron. I'm not big on kuminga or moody, but it is still probably the best available package. I would try to replace moody with one of the expiring contracts and get another gs 1st
Hey you guys need to advertise when Izzy is on the show!
Yall all some 🤡s Jimmy didn't say he wanted out an the heat never said they were trading him Spo said they blocking out the outside noise they don't care what yall talking about so they might not trade him I bet alot of yall be hurt if the heat doesn't 😂
Best dismissal of the year nominee for Greg Cote
Lol I'm so mad I didn't watch this show when it was on ESPN but glad I started watching last year
Oh I hope the Mavs don’t actually consider it. Jimmy would make them worse immediately. Jimmy should have been traded a season or two ago. I have no idea where he goes but I doubt he goes to a real contender.
Bro, is there a way we can get Fox?
This. THIS would take a bit of the sting out.
lol give up 3 first round picks sure
Sure .... Bam lol
@ an inconvenient truth lol
The FA aspect is overblown. Currently, the only team that would have enough cap space to sign him at $52.4m (his option) is BKN (WAS are next with low $40s). Both are rebuilding. If he leaves MIA will only be around $10m under cap. HOU would need to incentivise taking on brooks & londale contracts, so extra picks/youngsters to be added. Green has a poison pill (ext), so that would be hard. Mavs will need to include kyrie or klay and others (inc pj) and only have about 1 1st available. MIA don't want klay. GS is workable but would need to sell MIA on Wiggins' contract or compensate. Add compensation for melton, looney and/or gp2. Even with kuminga at least 1 needs to be added. But they do have 1sts available.
LAL would need to include both available 1sts with little to no protections. That is doubtful due to lebron/butler's ages. Although bron for jimmy might work. But Bron probably says no.
DEN, PHX, MIL just no. No one wants MPJ, Beal, Middleton.
MIA will also avoid taking on extra salary as they are around $2m short of the 2nd tier.
You must be high how can you look at miami an said we can't win now ... and these are the analysts we should listen to
So....the time is now? Or has the time already passed us by and the time was then? Is it too late to trade Jimmy now?
We should’ve traded Jimmy in The off season like Knicks trading 5 firsts for mikal bridges.
Tarde Jimmy before you get nothing for him.
But watching Jimmy get his first chip, but with ANOTHER team, would be... maaaan. That would suck so bad.
Orrr let him walk and gain cap space .. they do not have to trade him. If he opts in next year then you trade him
They will only be about $10m under the cap without him. I think butler is bluffing about opting out without a new deal as the only team with enough cap space without him taking a HUGE paycut is Nets. Anyone else would need to sign and trade.
Dan - get off the Pat Riley will only take back a better win now player. Heat aren’t winning anything now so
Take what you can get for Butler.
It's Riley's fault for sleeping at the table. He never got another guy in Miami. Boston ate em with the right trades.
Bem and Tyler are definitely not leading any championship and today Jimmy is a good second option at best so claiming to be in win now mode is just being clueless or blind
I'll see you guys in June saying how Miami heat shock the NBA. We win with culture and we lose with culture and culture say we are always a win now team
God, people are so pessimistic. Keep doubting this team. When Bam is playing to his potential this team is dangerous and can take out Boston in the playoffs. They've done it before. I'm riding with Jimmy.
We are a mediocre team.
@@Ent.4321that's so defeatest and sorry it's downright shameful.
@ I disagree. This team is dangerous. They just need consistency.
You guys were wrong the last time there was trade drama.
It’s nothing available in the off season, Jimmy is the top of the list. Let that sink in 😂😂😂😂😂😂. Meaning "THERE'S" (Got it B****) no one else better than him in free agency this summer smdh.
"There's" not "it's." .....THERE'S nothing available......THERE'S no one else. When did this ridiculous grammatical error start happening? I hear it all the time now.
It’s funny how when people want our players we’re supposed to just suck it up and eat it. But when we want other teams players, we have to sell half of our team. 😂😂😂😂 bs
So damn true
I wanted to trade him 2 yrs ago
I would pay the $52MM for Jimmy. We need to stick with him.
Pat didn't sign him to a extension. So himmy gets to go where he wants, and Pat going to get some other teams trash for him.
@@Lunkjohnson I'm going to cry.
Nah he can go! Jimmy can’t do it every game. Super max is superstar numbers
Why do you think Miami still needs Jimmy?
Stick with him for what?
Leading us to the playoffs to only lose, once again?
Playing 59/82 games?
Acting like a Emo, I’m good.
We should’ve traded him during last season (if not earlier)
So funny, the entitlement. Jimmy is a nice role player on a title team. And you guys want a star back for a 35 year old. Good luck
Trump broke Dan 🤣
Dan is worse talking about the Heat than Mike or Jeremy
If this is Herro’s legitimate career breakout year why not just be a buyer and try to win the east? Add another piece and go for it. Why give up and sell now?
Riley never supported this dude's weirdo antics. Old schooling still exist.
Dan's interview talents are wasted on sports.
amen thompson future super star. amen thompson tari eason and jabari smith for jimmy jovic
Pretty sure Rockets need to give Fred Van Fleet up to make that work financially.
Fred Van Fleet
Amen Thompson
Jabari Smith
Cam Whitmore
For
Jimmy Butler
Duncan Robinson
Nikola Jovic
Dan is in Miami and doesnt e=understand his own team ?? Miami is not winning now with Jimmy...hes 35 and declining.He doesnt understand where the Heat are right now....
Heat 13-10 these ppl think theyre playing today and are contenders LOLOLOL....
Everyone knows so much bout Heat when it’s time to say they didn’t do enough, won’t be contenders, tellin me every preseason the Sixers would be better… and when they eliminate giannis and tatum multiple years it’s because it was the bubble or Giannis got injured game 1 or Tatum ankle turned in Game 7… how about yall admit, you’ve been wrong about Butler, Herro, Bam and the Heat and hyped up other bum ass teams and players year after year.. gas bags!
Do these guys Not watch heat games. What do you mean "conceding" the season .. they are Not playing for anything now with Jimmy lol.. Riley is not a magician there is no star level player to get for jimmy
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Jimmy should stay. No one we get will be better player than him when healthy.
No chance at Houston. We do not want him or any other old "star" player. Hard Pass.
When Pat Riley told Jimmy Butler, “ Shut Your Mouth “, this past Play-off Season, I knew Jimmy Butler’s Time in Miami, had run it’s course. So, with that being said, I have a Trade( I already tested it in “ The ESPN NBA Trade Machine( Successful ):
Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier to Chicago, for Zach Lavine and Lonzo Ball. Let’s be Real: All 4 Players have Injury Issues. But, I look at Chemistry, Timeline and Need. Lavine and Ball are Younger Players, who fit in Miami Heat’s System. Lavine would be a Great Driver to pair with Tyler Herro’s Outside Game. Lonzo Ball would be a Great Fit with Bam and be The True Floor-Leader Miami needs. Plus, Lonzo Ball can Defend and Play 3 Positions. Most importantly, Lavine and Ball are in that same Age Group/ Timeline as Bam, Herro and Robinson.
Now, for Chicago, Jimmy Butler and Terry Rozier would be Good Fits, Playing alongside Veteran Players like Vucevic, White, and Dosumo. Plus, Butler could lead that Bulls Team, and transform them into a Tough, Play-in Team. Terry Rozier also helps Chicago with Leadership, Scoring and Toughness. Now, I am not saying that BOTH SIDES WIN THIS TRADE. No, Miami wins this trade, but Chicago becomes a more Competitive Team( if Butler and Rozier are Healthy ).
I personally can't wait to see this play out. Pat is going to get someone's trash for himmy.
Himmy is on his last yr. So himmy don't have to go where Pat sends him. All himmy got to do is threaten I'm not signing a extension, and himmy will go exactly where he wants to go for trash.
i never understand why people are enamored with Zach Lavine. That guy has no dog in him. No passion for the game
Jimmy already played for the bulls don’t see him going back ever
@@gtgargon Zach Lavine has been Coached Wrong, His Entire Career. If He Played for Miami, He would be FORCED to Play Hard. The thing about Zach is, HE HAS ALL THE PHYSICAL TOOLS AND SKILLS TO BE GREAT; He just needs to be on The Right Team.
@ Did He Tell You that?
Trade Jimmy now
Hope you're not mad.
Who wants a 35-year old Butler when he will want an extension next season? NO ONE.
Well no one guarantees a conference final more than JimBuckets.
Typical fanboy tub o' lard.
Seriously - he is the messenger boy for old man Riley.