Based On this book we have organised several debates across Country . If Rajiv Malhotra ji gives us time we can organise it on 14 April in front of 6-8 lacs people so called Dalits.
Dear Infinity Foundations. This video is a goldmine and should sincerely be repurposed as youtube shots. Rajiji's answers are so crisp and perfect and I hope to see each of them as mini shots for better reach and easier digestible content. :D
caste is avery rigid western concept responsible for conflict where as Our is Varna or Jati which is more closely related to community which has people of specific characteristics and fluid in nature and hence almost no conflicy but complements eachother
It was based on birth where people can't choose .it is a social hierarchical structure based on birth itself .it is a social evil .it is gpod for people who is higher caste but bad for lower. Merit must be seen, not by birth
Thank you Rajivji for all the selfless and meticulous work you do to create awareness on Sanatana Dharma. Your contribution is priceless and the coming generations will be always be indebted to you🙏
I bought this book and read two times. Book is really informative as well as valuable. But major problem of English, person who are dogmatic for cast unable to understand English and English knowing people has no problem for cast. That is why book is not valuable for cast supporting mind, So sorry, to say reality of so called intelluactual class who want to lead them against reality of education 🙏
Nonetheless, it is a great initiative that none wanted to take. today at least we have this book with solid explanations that we can refer to, interpret it in our own Bhashas to talk to the 'dogmatic' people you're referring to.
@@cosmicallyspeaking871 नमस्कार। महाशिवरात्रि पर्व की हार्दिक शुभकामनाएं बधाई वेद पुराण, आदि जिन भाषा में है उसमे ये तथ्य उपलब्ध है? वो तो मै भी करता हूं जिद्दी लोगों के लिए अनुवाद का सहारा लेता हूं। बुद्धिमत्ता की दाद देनी पड़ेगी कि कोलोनियल माइंड से बाहर निकल कर हमे नेतृत्व दे। रचनाकार प्रथम श्रेणी के लोगों को तैयार करने में सफल है।
He is wrong about how Buddhism was ended in india. Buddhism was destroyed by pushyamitra sunga, after he took power after killing last mauryan king brihadhrath by treachery to establish caste system. And he said Buddhists didn't have an army to defend. 😂😂😂 What about Chakravartin Samrat Asok? He said all buddhists had to become a monk that is the reason Buddhism disappeared.😂😂😂 Buddhism has monk and house holder, who can marry and practice Buddhism. Chakravartin samrat Asok, Dr.Ambedkar, king milind.....became Buddhists but not monks. This old guy lacks knowledge about Buddhism or caste system, all he does is loose talk with out any basis.
In the name of uplifting n give knowledge... Rajiv Malhotra ji he himself destroying varna , which every sanatani Hindu must uphold. Varna is by birth only... If the birth based varna system collapses , complete dharma will collapses by itself without others interference... In the name of dharma , woke dharma , bogus puranas , ofcourse without prana in it ,will be displayed as dharma. Rajiv ji first you should learn by our gurus...
Sir justifying social evils like birth based caste system or untouchability won't give amy positive outcomes .reforms in hindu society will only work .
Pranam,Rajiv Ji! Your contributions are from a person- Yugpurush! You are really the person to break the absurdity created by pseudo seculars and biased media, about caste system and wokism. We wish you all the success on the occasion of Mahashivratri! Mahadev Bless Us All! JAI VAASUDEV KUTAMBUKAM!
Does it mean division of castes exist depending on the work/vocation one carries but one cannot label himself any particular caste then why is government going on classsification reservation based on catste
@@Divine_wave23 The concept of hereditary Caste division itself is not Indian, it's a superimposition of the Spanish/Portuguese caste system and the English Class system in India, intending to divide the natives and use them against each other while the English hold power and work as a mediator. Caste was a pyramid scheme that European Missionaries sold to Indians via their Christian Missionary schooling imposition in Indian society to divide and conquer. So don’t mix up Varna with Gotram, Varna is Profession, and Gotram is Lineage. Hindus are free to marry in different Varnas, only avoid marrying in the same Gotram because it is considered the same bloodline, hence we don’t marry between brothers and sisters.
I have come across quite a few people, families, who have been classified by our state governments as upper class, doing menial jobs, living on one meal a day,
Do you even know the meaning of the term “Dalit” ? The term “Dalit” means 'Broke', derived from the Sanskrit term Daridra (दरिद्र) which means 'Poor', and anyone can be a 'Dalit' if can't afford basic human necessities. And the "Dalit" caste is the most recent creation, it became a “caste” specific during the British colonization.
26:00 - What?? 😂 If you are so intelligent what on earth are you doing in the US?? You should be in your own country which should be developed like the US.
Buddhists didn't get "wiped out" - they got Nirvana and obviously that was the purpose. That's why they are not around. They had a single-pointed focus towards it. On the other hand, Hindus aren't really sadhakas, they just follow a bunch of traditional rituals, putting water on shivlingam and believe that the job is done. This way moksha can never come even in a thousand years. There is no focus, no sense of purpose and no vision - just following "Indian culture" as if it was created by somebody else, and you have to follow it without internalization.
We should use the correct terms - Varna and Jaati - instead of Caste. There is nothing like "caste" in India; we have Varna and Jaati. If we use the correct words, we can have a more meaningful and honest debate.
@@Divine_wave23 What is the difference between Varna and Jaati then? What is caste? Is OBC a caste or jati or varna? Stop this name calling just because you don't have facts on your side.
I think the whole idea of this caste being brought up in western society is to bring reservation/diversity program in US universities and workspace! Like how they have diversity programs for blacks and LGBTQs
Forget about caste doesn’t he claim some aryan descent ? Indo aryans linking to some Europeans? Aryan just means Iranian, so why are Iranians refugees that escaped the conquest of Iran by the Muslims during the 7/8century and came to the Indian subcontinent as refugees/ conquerors masquerading as Hindus ? just like when the Roman Empire was ending , the romans were conquered by a group of people who were running away from the Eurasian plains because others tribes had displaced them and don’t Iranians follow Zoroastrians , they have completely appropriated the sub continent’s history and culture and all those Veda’s were modified and written only later inserting themselves into the stories and calming caste superiority based on colour, , well a bhramin is some one who is fair to look at , does not turn into hunuman when left unshaven and unwaxed and does not emit foul body body ordour, attribute the people of Nepal and people it the bhramputras basin posses but the same people who left that way and practice at at the time of Buddhas teaching, that’s why we see bhramin practice in Burma and other south East Asian countries change from the caste system to har har mahadev and bhuddism. And unlike Iraninams who revived the old system , when they migrated as refugees m/ conquerors during the 7/8 century, well conquerors write history or shall we say rewrite history Even the rajouts were only given a Varna when they had conquered rajhastan meaning the children of kings they were given that khastria status only during the 16 century ad and with the support of the British. And most of todays people having bhramin status and surnames were only given that by the British and some at the time of Aurangzeb when he supported a started the Krishna bhakt , to make it easier to divide and rule , anyway a surname does not a bhramin make ! The original bhramins who were displaced from north india still are called bhramoutras meaning the children of god. And still live in the bhrmaputra valley . But we still see the Iranian who control Bollywood trying to perpetrate skin colour superiority , though they don’t posses the two other vital attributes by portraying Demons and evil people in all tv programs as dark or looking like South Indians and gods and good ppl as Iranian/ aryan. The complet approation is just hilarious like when the mongols converted to Islam when the had conquered those lands because it was convinent to rule the Muslim. All over the world we see new people coming in and conquering the locals and adopting and converting to the regions local practice because it is easier to rule the said people but these aryan/ Iranian claiming some superiority are just hilarious, not yet evolved enough to be a bhramin 😂and completely approximating the out side form like even coping the “Chinese pig tail” hair style leaves me rolling on the ground with laughter, So in the old ways people discriminate on basis of being fair to look at , does not turn into hunuman when left unshaved and unwaxed and bodies does not emit foul body ordour and that hair style does not belong to you all, Guess the Iranians can copy the hair style. and given some of them are fair like some Iranian people of Nepal after marrying into the local population but some of their parents are still brown they sadly still do not have the other attributes of not turning into hunuman and bodies not emitting foul body ordour, and the originals left that way of discrimination at the teaching of bhudda, Most Veda’s also written later in Sanskrit and sanskrit was invented much later south u dian languages and skript much older 😂 Guess that’s why one finds bhramin dna in all tribal peoples and other people all the way to south India,😂😂😂a It’s still funny to see Iranian claiming all god and practice and masuurading as bhramins and Hindus but keeping the main component of zorastra and his fire rituals 😂😂😂😂
Firstly I'm a telugu south indian .we are mostly fair ,brown ,Wheaties and some are dark ! 2ndly Arya means not iranian .Arya means noble in Sanskrit. All Indians have same DNA. This is based on research studies .
@@Divine_wave23 recent reacherch ? Well all humans are the same and you even have the Asian dna ( like the people from Nepal and northern India ) Im Sure your research shows that ,and selective testing of dna of certain groups and high lighting certain dna types like r1 don’t consist of research even those claiming r1 are mixed groups and dna testing should be from all including the villages to the cities and when you say research would love to know which research and which website? Hope it’s not the same gana that Indians tend to use “it was verified or some one important told me but when questioned further there happens to be no research or some one told me chap!! Though the are small differences in the dna from the dravadians most are all mixed groups even the ones that claim to be bhramins by adopting a bhramin surname in and aryan means Iranian , used to mean student also and you will find most of those claiming to be aryan have Iranian dna but all are just mixed group and Sanskrit is a recent language even compare to the languages that exist in the Indian subcontinent and please don’t go into it was a very old spoke language the oldest in the world and such and was only written down later !!! And further a bhramin is fair to look at does not turn into hunuman when left unshaven and unwaxed and their bodies does not emit foul body ordour attributes the people of Nepal and the north east actually posses rest have only adopted bhramin surnames and apporiated a old way of life and these people seems to have left that life of race or caste discriminations at the time of the bhuddha and mahavir and therefor they married those the considered below the as In the caste system thus you find their dna in almost all populations all the way to the south of India and as you mentioned some look dark wheat is or brown Asians looks , Amazing world but at the end alll people are the same as bhuddha mahavir and the Mahadev taught , har har mahadev har ghar mahadeva
Caste or Jati is so ingrained in Indian Society that it plays an important role in Indian Politics today. In US, the relevance of Jati may manifest in different ways.
@@NativeVsColonialfirst read ur Vedas thier is already mention about jati word right Don't fool ppls ur mythologies doesn't work today's coz ppls knw u ppls came from outside & spread poison in humans
@@NativeVsColonial Jati is a Sanskrit word and its root "Jata", which means "born" or "brought into existence". Most languages in the world find their source in Sanskrit which is the oldest language.
Rajivji must explain us and clear the air regarding SC/ST and their social status of indebted poverty? Why obcs are always rendered useless given the community which is the skeletal framework of indian society but largely ignored?
Why are you lumping so-called OBC, SC and ST together when there is HUGE variation in their economic and social status? Are you saying that Yadavs, Gurjar, Jatav and Valmikis in UP are similar in social and economic status?
@gokulvrindavan1958 Have you ever made any effort in going over hundreds of articles, blogs & talks where Rajiv discussed this in detail over the last 25-30 years? Why is that you require Rajiv to explain this to you to 'clear the air' after watching just this one talk? Where is your part of the engagement in this?
Reservation is given to lower caste who were victims of this birth based racist caste system where you get a caste by your birth ! It is a social evil .some brahmins and upper caste are justifying such social evil .thank god we have laws in india !
The concept of hereditary Caste division itself is not Indian, it's a superimposition of the Spanish/Portuguese caste system and the English Class system in India, intending to divide the natives and use them against each other while the English hold power and work as a mediator. Caste was a pyramid scheme that European Missionaries sold to Indians via their Christian Missionary schooling imposition in Indian society to divide and conquer. So don’t mix up Varna with Gotram, Varna is Profession, and Gotram is Lineage. Hindus are free to marry in different Varnas, only avoid marrying in the same Gotram because it is considered the same bloodline, hence we don’t marry between brothers and sisters.
@@Divine_wave23 Bhagavad Gita 5:18 “The truly learned, with the eyes of divine knowledge, see with equal vision a Brahmin, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater”
Tell me why obc, sc, st are only poor....? Why tribal are called adivasis/mulnivasis? Aren't obcs are the one real sons of the soil who are fortunately correct in believing and practicing advaita philosophy which is the sound concept of God/deitiesand all?
Why are you lumping so-called OBC, SC and ST together when there is HUGE variation in their economic and social status? Are you saying that Yadavs, Gurjar, Jatav and Valmikis in UP are similar in social and economic status?
What is "upper caste" or "OBC"? There are thousands of Jaatis in India and many of them are classified differently in differently regions. This clubbing together of various jaatis is illogical. We have OBCs, then EBCs, then MBCs ! Many Jaatis in so-called OBC category are landholders and more wealthy compared to Brahmins.
every in ancient bharat was a son of soil. kshatiyas literally fighting for the nations. a brahmin priest is literally working day and night moving temple offerings, andthey literally do bhoomi pujan. SC ST OBC were all landed people who lost their lands to mughals and brits and made to wander searching for jobs in colonial adminisration. Or else they were doing para-cultivation work in handicraft ndustires destroyed by brits.
Jatis were a form of decentralized self-governance and self-support system wherein each member of the society adhered to the norms of the society and provided for the security and wellbeing of its members it was a kind of self help self insurance mechanism for its members. The word “caste” has its origins in Latin (castus), which means chaste or pure. Caste made its way into the Indian lexicon with the arrival of the Portuguese in the 1700s. Due to low productivity and short growing period Europe relied heavily on slaves and bonded labor. Slaves were brought into Europe from different parts of the worlds mostly from Africa and Asia but the Church made it sure to keep the Christian lands and Christian bloods pure. This was done by castrating male slaves so that they could not reproduce and by killing or castration of mixed race off-springs of female slaves. Destruction of Indic Self Governance and self support system was done through the Mapping of European feudal and caste system on Indian social order. During this colonial era, a cash crop economy was introduced in Africa and India, and this was administered through harsh methods that alienated the King and his chiefs from the rest of the population. Fuedal system exercised strict control over the land through the exploitation of labor or tenants of the land. It introduced debt bondage and indentured servitude with similarities to and differences from slavery. European social hierarchy or caste system was established serving the purpose of British into Indian legal and administration system. Until Mughal Era the zamindars were not proprietors resulting in less productivity and revenue collections. The East India Company under Lord Cornwallis, realising this, made Permanent Settlement in 1793 with the zamindars and made them proprietors of their land in return for a fixed annual rent and left them independent for the internal affairs of their estates. Church through its policy of terra nullius uprooted natives of forest land and destroyed their culture and civilization in order to exploit their resources. Varna system was the theoretical basis and model for social and professional order conceived for the smooth functioning of the Society and its governance. However in reality Jatis determined the true social order it had its own system of ruling it formed the most abundant, customary and practical form of social order on ground. Jatis framed their own rules and regulations for managing the conduct of its members and establishing relationship with other Jatis as well as the sovereign ruler. Jatis were further subdivided into SUBJATIS on the basis of economic, social criterion.
Absolutely incorrect interpretation this can be expected of people who are not educated in behavioral and evolutionary sciences and off course qualitative and qualitative science...It is a pluralistic society where people had the right to self govern and the change in rule generally did not rob the people of their rights.. There was no concept of Terra nullius..
@reubenboipai7728 Absolutely incorrect interpretation expected of someone lacking in qualitative and quantitative science including specifically behavioral and evolutionary sciences. It's normal for an Indian family to have members with a distinct relegion belief or political affiliation..
But Varna is not caste nor it is an equivalent of feudal caste based society of west that was extremely exploitative and Inhuman... The Europeans mapped there feudal and caste based society on to our Jatis and Verna system..
Varna is color as Varnashram is Spectrum of four colors essentially division of labour on basis of natural instinct evolved by traditional skill as have been going on hundred centuries.West tend to distort fact by implied intention Thus, India become home of unique social groups in all vocation to academia during vedic era . A freedom of profession, as all mod3rn interview pannel locate candidate by aptitudes test to testify hidden instincts only.
In india varna is determined by jaati or birth . It was not based on merit .it is based on birth . Also a brahmin cant marry a shudra . It is a hereditary system which is also hierarchical. There are people called outcasts who are called Chandala or untouchable who are modern day dalits
@@Divine_wave23 in our scriptures where the varna system is mentioned it is based on ones "inclination" or vasanas towards a particular profession as it is now. Later over centuries this got distorted and became rigid. However, as Sanatana dharma being very open to change and adaptive to times things are now slowly changing. It is a punisable under law to discriminate on the basis of your Jati. Caste is not even an Indian word but a Portguese one.
Just one question to admin when these books wrote before dinosaurs or after dinosaurs?..if your answer is before dinosaurs then my question is if dinosaurs got extinct then how can these books survive? Even in good condition?..even in oast there were lot's of crisis happened in past so how this is possible please tell me
Loved the young boy talking in public and in his school regarding CASTE. Thats what is expected by Rajiv ji.
Pranaam Rajeev jee .Thank you for answering these nagging questions in apt and logical answers 🎉🎉.
As always very logical and succinct pranam to Rajivji🙏🏻
Based On this book we have organised several debates across Country . If Rajiv Malhotra ji gives us time we can organise it on 14 April in front of 6-8 lacs people so called Dalits.
It will be a wonderful decession.
Please write to Mr Rajivji 🙏🏻
@@sebirada9942 several times we tried to reach him
Dear Infinity Foundations. This video is a goldmine and should sincerely be repurposed as youtube shots. Rajiji's answers are so crisp and perfect and I hope to see each of them as mini shots for better reach and easier digestible content. :D
They have made it into smaller videos/chapters which you can view below the video and use.
27:59 Good idea, but even better- give the books to classmates ahead of time and let the teachers make fools of themselves. Kids' minds matter more.
caste is avery rigid western concept responsible for conflict where as Our is Varna or Jati which is more closely related to community which has people of specific characteristics and fluid in nature and hence almost no conflicy but complements eachother
There were 4 Varnas/Professions.
[Common Civilians (Shudras), Traders (Vaishyas), Warriors (Kshatriyas), Teachers (Brahmins)]
Learn these terms properly:
(1) Varna/Profession
(2) Lineage/Gotra/Vansh
(3) Tribe/State/Jati/Province/Desh/Group
(4) Nation/Rashtra/Civilization
(5) Caste/Breed/Race
It is based on birth .it is a social evil stop justifying it
It was based on birth where people can't choose .it is a social hierarchical structure based on birth itself .it is a social evil .it is gpod for people who is higher caste but bad for lower. Merit must be seen, not by birth
Can we take legal route to sue schools that teach wrong information about Hindu varna system?
Thank you Rajivji for all the selfless and meticulous work you do to create awareness on Sanatana Dharma. Your contribution is priceless and the coming generations will be always be indebted to you🙏
Jai Shri Ram, Rajiv ji.
Great work for Hindu sanatana dharama I salute you God bless you
Superb work of rajiv malhotra ❤
जय हो
I bought this book and read two times.
Book is really informative as well as valuable.
But major problem of English, person who are dogmatic for cast unable to understand English and English knowing people has no problem for cast.
That is why book is not valuable for cast supporting mind,
So sorry, to say reality of so called intelluactual class who want to lead them against reality of education 🙏
Nonetheless, it is a great initiative that none wanted to take. today at least we have this book with solid explanations that we can refer to, interpret it in our own Bhashas to talk to the 'dogmatic' people you're referring to.
@@cosmicallyspeaking871
नमस्कार।
महाशिवरात्रि पर्व की हार्दिक शुभकामनाएं बधाई
वेद पुराण, आदि जिन भाषा में है उसमे ये तथ्य उपलब्ध है?
वो तो मै भी करता हूं जिद्दी लोगों के लिए अनुवाद का सहारा लेता हूं।
बुद्धिमत्ता की दाद देनी पड़ेगी कि कोलोनियल माइंड से बाहर निकल कर हमे नेतृत्व दे। रचनाकार प्रथम श्रेणी के लोगों को तैयार करने में सफल है।
@@santoshjha920🔱ಹರ ಹರ ಮಹಾದೇವಾ🔱
प्रणाम राजीव जी
स्थिति बड़ी विकट है हिन्दू अस्तित्व समाप्त होने वाला है ।
NOt if work for its revival, every sanatani as an individual has to make their contribution.
Not directed at anyone who spoke during this interaction but please stop being apologist. That is where we start.
आप अच्छा काम कर रहे हैं राजीव जी
32:16 💥✨😎
facts
Audio is poor. I am not able to hear even at highest volume.
Yes, there are some glitches, but over all with the use of good headphones I was able to hear the conversation really well.
Manu was Kashtriya (he was ruler)
I would like to see RM debate with Harsh M on this topic.
He is wrong about how Buddhism was ended in india.
Buddhism was destroyed by pushyamitra sunga, after he took power after killing last mauryan king brihadhrath by treachery to establish caste system.
And he said Buddhists didn't have an army to defend. 😂😂😂
What about Chakravartin Samrat Asok?
He said all buddhists had to become a monk that is the reason Buddhism disappeared.😂😂😂
Buddhism has monk and house holder, who can marry and practice Buddhism.
Chakravartin samrat Asok, Dr.Ambedkar, king milind.....became Buddhists but not monks.
This old guy lacks knowledge about Buddhism or caste system, all he does is loose talk with out any basis.
There were 4 Varnas/Professions.
[Common Civilians (Shudras), Traders (Vaishyas), Warriors (Kshatriyas), Teachers (Brahmins)]
Learn these terms properly:
(1) Varna/Profession
(2) Lineage/Gotra/Vansh
(3) Tribe/State/Jati/Province/Desh/Group
(4) Nation/Rashtra/Civilization
(5) Caste/Breed/Race
In the name of uplifting n give knowledge...
Rajiv Malhotra ji he himself destroying varna , which every sanatani Hindu must uphold.
Varna is by birth only...
If the birth based varna system collapses , complete dharma will collapses by itself without others interference...
In the name of dharma , woke dharma , bogus puranas , ofcourse without prana in it ,will be displayed as dharma.
Rajiv ji first you should learn by our gurus...
Sir justifying social evils like birth based caste system or untouchability won't give amy positive outcomes .reforms in hindu society will only work .
In which Islamic-Christian dark ages you are living? Wake up!
Can I say that I do not have any caste, same way an individual can say he or she has no religion?
Pranam,Rajiv Ji!
Your contributions are from a person- Yugpurush!
You are really the person to break the absurdity created by pseudo seculars and biased media, about caste system and wokism.
We wish you all the success on the occasion of Mahashivratri!
Mahadev Bless Us All!
JAI VAASUDEV KUTAMBUKAM!
Does it mean division of castes exist depending on the work/vocation one carries but one cannot label himself any particular caste then why is government going on classsification reservation based on catste
Carrying on thr Divide and Conquer British legacy
Because you oppressed lower caste for 3000 years so they need help .caste system was based on birth
@@Divine_wave23 The concept of hereditary Caste division itself is not Indian, it's a superimposition of the Spanish/Portuguese caste system and the English Class system in India, intending to divide the natives and use them against each other while the English hold power and work as a mediator.
Caste was a pyramid scheme that European Missionaries sold to Indians via their Christian Missionary schooling imposition in Indian society to divide and conquer.
So don’t mix up Varna with Gotram, Varna is Profession, and Gotram is Lineage.
Hindus are free to marry in different Varnas, only avoid marrying in the same Gotram because it is considered the same bloodline, hence we don’t marry between brothers and sisters.
Any place in India which has non dalit working in janitorial jobs?
I've seen many
I have come across quite a few people, families, who have been classified by our state governments as upper class, doing menial jobs, living on one meal a day,
@@cosmicallyspeaking871sali
Everything is inverted pyramid, only dalit is in all low level work.
Do you even know the meaning of the term “Dalit” ?
The term “Dalit” means 'Broke', derived from the Sanskrit term Daridra (दरिद्र) which means 'Poor', and anyone can be a 'Dalit' if can't afford basic human necessities.
And the "Dalit" caste is the most recent creation, it became a “caste” specific during the British colonization.
26:00 - What?? 😂 If you are so intelligent what on earth are you doing in the US?? You should be in your own country which should be developed like the US.
Buddhists didn't get "wiped out" - they got Nirvana and obviously that was the purpose. That's why they are not around. They had a single-pointed focus towards it.
On the other hand, Hindus aren't really sadhakas, they just follow a bunch of traditional rituals, putting water on shivlingam and believe that the job is done. This way moksha can never come even in a thousand years. There is no focus, no sense of purpose and no vision - just following "Indian culture" as if it was created by somebody else, and you have to follow it without internalization.
We should use the correct terms - Varna and Jaati - instead of Caste. There is nothing like "caste" in India; we have Varna and Jaati. If we use the correct words, we can have a more meaningful and honest debate.
Varna and jati both are determined by birth .stop justifying a social evil
@@Divine_wave23 What is the difference between Varna and Jaati then? What is caste? Is OBC a caste or jati or varna? Stop this name calling just because you don't have facts on your side.
I think the whole idea of this caste being brought up in western society is to bring reservation/diversity program in US universities and workspace! Like how they have diversity programs for blacks and LGBTQs
Forget about caste doesn’t he claim some aryan descent ? Indo aryans linking to some Europeans?
Aryan just means Iranian, so why are Iranians refugees that escaped the conquest of Iran by the Muslims during the 7/8century and came to the Indian subcontinent as refugees/ conquerors masquerading as Hindus ? just like when the Roman Empire was ending , the romans were conquered by a group of people who were running away from the Eurasian plains because others tribes had displaced them and don’t Iranians follow Zoroastrians , they have completely appropriated the sub continent’s history and culture and all those Veda’s were modified and written only later inserting themselves into the stories and calming caste superiority based on colour, , well a bhramin is some one who is fair to look at , does not turn into hunuman when left unshaven and unwaxed and does not emit foul body body ordour, attribute the people of Nepal and people it the bhramputras basin posses but the same people who left that way and practice at at the time of Buddhas teaching, that’s why we see bhramin practice in Burma and other south East Asian countries change from the caste system to har har mahadev and bhuddism.
And unlike Iraninams who revived the old system , when they migrated as refugees m/ conquerors during the 7/8 century, well conquerors write history or shall we say rewrite history
Even the rajouts were only given a Varna when they had conquered rajhastan meaning the children of kings they were given that khastria status only during the 16 century ad and with the support of the British. And most of todays people having bhramin status and surnames were only given that by the British and some at the time of Aurangzeb when he supported a started the Krishna bhakt , to make it easier to divide and rule , anyway a surname does not a bhramin make !
The original bhramins who were displaced from north india still are called bhramoutras meaning the children of god. And still live in the bhrmaputra valley .
But we still see the Iranian who control Bollywood trying to perpetrate skin colour superiority , though they don’t posses the two other vital attributes by portraying Demons and evil people in all tv programs as dark or looking like South Indians and gods and good ppl as Iranian/ aryan.
The complet approation is just hilarious like when the mongols converted to Islam when the had conquered those lands because it was convinent to rule the Muslim.
All over the world we see new people coming in and conquering the locals and adopting and converting to the regions local practice because it is easier to rule the said people but these aryan/ Iranian claiming some superiority are just hilarious, not yet evolved enough to be a bhramin 😂and completely approximating the out side form like even coping the “Chinese pig tail” hair style leaves me rolling on the ground with laughter,
So in the old ways people discriminate on basis of being fair to look at , does not turn into hunuman when left unshaved and unwaxed and bodies does not emit foul body ordour and that hair style does not belong to you all,
Guess the Iranians can copy the hair style. and given some of them are fair like some Iranian people of Nepal after marrying into the local population but some of their parents are still brown they sadly still do not have the other attributes of not turning into hunuman and bodies not emitting foul body ordour, and the originals left that way of discrimination at the teaching of bhudda,
Most Veda’s also written later in Sanskrit and sanskrit was invented much later south u dian languages and skript much older 😂
Guess that’s why one finds bhramin dna in all tribal peoples and other people all the way to south India,😂😂😂a
It’s still funny to see Iranian claiming all god and practice and masuurading as bhramins and Hindus but keeping the main component of zorastra and his fire rituals 😂😂😂😂
Firstly I'm a telugu south indian .we are mostly fair ,brown ,Wheaties and some are dark ! 2ndly Arya means not iranian .Arya means noble in Sanskrit. All Indians have same DNA. This is based on research studies .
@@Divine_wave23 recent reacherch ? Well all humans are the same and you even have the Asian dna ( like the people from Nepal and northern India )
Im Sure your research shows that ,and selective testing of dna of certain groups and high lighting certain dna types like r1 don’t consist of research even those claiming r1 are mixed groups and dna testing should be from all including the villages to the cities
and when you say research would love to know which research and which website? Hope it’s not the same gana that Indians tend to use “it was verified or some one important told me but when questioned further there happens to be no research or some one told me chap!!
Though the are small differences in the dna from the dravadians most are all mixed groups even the ones that claim to be bhramins by adopting a bhramin surname in and aryan means Iranian , used to mean student also and you will find most of those claiming to be aryan have Iranian dna but all are just mixed group and Sanskrit is a recent language even compare to the languages that exist in the Indian subcontinent and please don’t go into it was a very old spoke language the oldest in the world and such and was only written down later !!!
And further a bhramin is fair to look at does not turn into hunuman when left unshaven and unwaxed and their bodies does not emit foul body ordour attributes the people of Nepal and the north east actually posses rest have only adopted bhramin surnames and apporiated a old way of life and these people seems to have left that life of race or caste discriminations at the time of the bhuddha and mahavir and therefor they married those the considered below the as In the caste system thus you find their dna in almost all populations all the way to the south of India and as you mentioned some look dark wheat is or brown Asians looks ,
Amazing world but at the end alll people are the same as bhuddha mahavir and the Mahadev taught , har har mahadev har ghar mahadeva
Caste or Jati is so ingrained in Indian Society that it plays an important role in Indian Politics today. In US, the relevance of Jati may manifest in different ways.
There were 4 Varnas/Professions.
[Common Civilians (Shudras), Traders (Vaishyas), Warriors (Kshatriyas), Teachers (Brahmins)]
Learn these terms properly:
(1) Varna/Profession
(2) Lineage/Gotra/Vansh
(3) Tribe/State/Jati/Province/Desh/Group
(4) Nation/Rashtra/Civilization
(5) Caste/Breed/Race
@@NativeVsColonialvarna and Jati both are same
Whom are you fooling .even puri shankaracharya said that both are same .watch his videos
@@Divine_wave23 The term ‘Jaat’ arrived in Indian vocabulary through Persian-Urdu term ‘Zaat’, which means Race, Breed, Caste, Blood line.
@@NativeVsColonialfirst read ur Vedas thier is already mention about jati word right
Don't fool ppls ur mythologies doesn't work today's coz ppls knw u ppls came from outside & spread poison in humans
@@NativeVsColonial Jati is a Sanskrit word and its root "Jata", which means "born" or "brought into existence". Most languages in the world find their source in Sanskrit which is the oldest language.
Rajivji must explain us and clear the air regarding SC/ST and their social status of indebted poverty? Why obcs are always rendered useless given the community which is the skeletal framework of indian society but largely ignored?
Why are you lumping so-called OBC, SC and ST together when there is HUGE variation in their economic and social status? Are you saying that Yadavs, Gurjar, Jatav and Valmikis in UP are similar in social and economic status?
@gokulvrindavan1958 Have you ever made any effort in going over hundreds of articles, blogs & talks where Rajiv discussed this in detail over the last 25-30 years? Why is that you require Rajiv to explain this to you to 'clear the air' after watching just this one talk? Where is your part of the engagement in this?
Reservation is given to lower caste who were victims of this birth based racist caste system where you get a caste by your birth ! It is a social evil .some brahmins and upper caste are justifying such social evil .thank god we have laws in india !
The concept of hereditary Caste division itself is not Indian, it's a superimposition of the Spanish/Portuguese caste system and the English Class system in India, intending to divide the natives and use them against each other while the English hold power and work as a mediator.
Caste was a pyramid scheme that European Missionaries sold to Indians via their Christian Missionary schooling imposition in Indian society to divide and conquer.
So don’t mix up Varna with Gotram, Varna is Profession, and Gotram is Lineage.
Hindus are free to marry in different Varnas, only avoid marrying in the same Gotram because it is considered the same bloodline, hence we don’t marry between brothers and sisters.
No .brahmin can't marry a shudra . Watch puri shankaracharya video on intercaste marriage and varna by birth not .watch these two videos
@@Divine_wave23
Bhagavad Gita 5:18 “The truly learned, with the eyes of divine knowledge, see with equal vision a Brahmin, a cow, an elephant, a dog, and a dog-eater”
Tell me why obc, sc, st are only poor....? Why tribal are called adivasis/mulnivasis? Aren't obcs are the one real sons of the soil who are fortunately correct in believing and practicing advaita philosophy which is the sound concept of God/deitiesand all?
Why are you lumping so-called OBC, SC and ST together when there is HUGE variation in their economic and social status? Are you saying that Yadavs, Gurjar, Jatav and Valmikis in UP are similar in social and economic status?
@@jai6196why so called upper caste mainly are wealthy ?
What is "upper caste" or "OBC"? There are thousands of Jaatis in India and many of them are classified differently in differently regions. This clubbing together of various jaatis is illogical. We have OBCs, then EBCs, then MBCs !
Many Jaatis in so-called OBC category are landholders and more wealthy compared to Brahmins.
@@jai6196 here came freebie cult whi only know how to exploit gullible devotees in temples
every in ancient bharat was a son of soil. kshatiyas literally fighting for the nations. a brahmin priest is literally working day and night moving temple offerings, andthey literally do bhoomi pujan. SC ST OBC were all landed people who lost their lands to mughals and brits and made to wander searching for jobs in colonial adminisration. Or else they were doing para-cultivation work in handicraft ndustires destroyed by brits.
Jatis were a form of decentralized self-governance and self-support system wherein each member of the society adhered to the norms of the society and provided for the security and wellbeing of its members it was a kind of self help self insurance mechanism for its members.
The word “caste” has its origins in Latin (castus), which means chaste or pure. Caste made its way into the Indian lexicon with the arrival of the Portuguese in the 1700s. Due to low productivity and short growing period Europe relied heavily on slaves and bonded labor. Slaves were brought into Europe from different parts of the worlds mostly from Africa and Asia but the Church made it sure to keep the Christian lands and Christian bloods pure. This was done by castrating male slaves so that they could not reproduce and by killing or castration of mixed race off-springs of female slaves.
Destruction of Indic Self Governance and self support system was done through the Mapping of European feudal and caste system on Indian social order. During this colonial era, a cash crop economy was introduced in Africa and India, and this was administered through harsh methods that alienated the King and his chiefs from the rest of the population. Fuedal system exercised strict control over the land through the exploitation of labor or tenants of the land. It introduced debt bondage and indentured servitude with similarities to and differences from slavery. European social hierarchy or caste system was established serving the purpose of British into Indian legal and administration system. Until Mughal Era the zamindars were not proprietors resulting in less productivity and revenue collections. The East India Company under Lord Cornwallis, realising this, made Permanent Settlement in 1793 with the zamindars and made them proprietors of their land in return for a fixed annual rent and left them independent for the internal affairs of their estates. Church through its policy of terra nullius uprooted natives of forest land and destroyed their culture and civilization in order to exploit their resources.
Varna system was the theoretical basis and model for social and professional order conceived for the smooth functioning of the Society and its governance. However in reality Jatis determined the true social order it had its own system of ruling it formed the most abundant, customary and practical form of social order on ground. Jatis framed their own rules and regulations for managing the conduct of its members and establishing relationship with other Jatis as well as the sovereign ruler. Jatis were further subdivided into SUBJATIS on the basis of economic, social criterion.
From your comment it is clear that the Hindu Society was not one but divided (based on jatis?) Second, this divide is horizontal but hierarchical.
Absolutely incorrect interpretation this can be expected of people who are not educated in behavioral and evolutionary sciences and off course qualitative and qualitative science...It is a pluralistic society where people had the right to self govern and the change in rule generally did not rob the people of their rights..
There was no concept of Terra nullius..
@reubenboipai7728 Absolutely incorrect interpretation expected of someone lacking in qualitative and quantitative science including specifically behavioral and evolutionary sciences. It's normal for an Indian family to have members with a distinct relegion belief or political affiliation..
There were 4 Varnas/Professions.
[Common Civilians (Shudras), Traders (Vaishyas), Warriors (Kshatriyas), Teachers (Brahmins)]
Learn these terms properly:
(1) Varna/Profession
(2) Lineage/Gotra/Vansh
(3) Tribe/State/Jati/Province/Desh/Group
(4) Nation/Rashtra/Civilization
(5) Caste/Breed/Race
But Varna is not caste nor it is an equivalent of feudal caste based society of west that was extremely exploitative and Inhuman...
The Europeans mapped there feudal and caste based society on to our Jatis and Verna system..
Varna is color as Varnashram is Spectrum of four colors essentially division of labour on basis of natural instinct evolved by traditional skill as have been going on hundred centuries.West tend to distort fact by implied intention Thus, India become home of unique social groups in all vocation to academia during vedic era . A freedom of profession, as all mod3rn interview pannel locate candidate by aptitudes test to testify hidden instincts only.
In india varna is determined by jaati or birth . It was not based on merit .it is based on birth . Also a brahmin cant marry a shudra . It is a hereditary system which is also hierarchical. There are people called outcasts who are called Chandala or untouchable who are modern day dalits
@@Divine_wave23 in our scriptures where the varna system is mentioned it is based on ones "inclination" or vasanas towards a particular profession as it is now. Later over centuries this got distorted and became rigid. However, as Sanatana dharma being very open to change and adaptive to times things are now slowly changing. It is a punisable under law to discriminate on the basis of your Jati. Caste is not even an Indian word but a Portguese one.
Just one question to admin when these books wrote before dinosaurs or after dinosaurs?..if your answer is before dinosaurs then my question is if dinosaurs got extinct then how can these books survive? Even in good condition?..even in oast there were lot's of crisis happened in past so how this is possible please tell me