Jeff Teague: Nikola Jokic winning MVP over Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is BIGGEST SNUB in NBA history
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 พ.ค. 2024
- Jeff Teague and the Club 520 Podcast talk about Nikola Jokic winning this year's NBA MVP award, and why SGA should have been given the hardware. Teague makes the argument it's the WORST SNUB in the history of the NBA MVP award. Plus, the squad gets into some of the biggest coaching moves so far in the association. And don't miss Jeff and the guys make their predictions for the Mavericks-Thunder series.
Timeline:
0:00 - Jayson Tatum vs. Cavs
1:00 - Coaching moves in the league
4:00 - Thunder vs. Mavs
5:00 - Nikola Jokic wins MVP + SGA snubbed
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L take. Jokic is absolutly deserving.
It's always just racism
Jokic is deserving. But Shai is slightly more deserving imo. It’s very close though, I’m not upset with Jokic winning.
i thought this would be the first year nobody would complain abt who won cause each of them was deserving and had a good case. guess not
@@duffal0 nothing wrong with that take, I disagree and so do many other people, the crazy party of their take is saying it's a SNUB let allone THE BIGGEST one ever. Thats crazy talk.
The biggest snub in history is a reach 😂 like let’s stop it please. Jokic was also deserving
Snubbed
Black people just mad and talking crazy.
Right flopper shai doesn’t deserve it
@@shudigginsecure victim mentality....rampant now a days
@@shudiggyou can say the same for whites
Joker lead his team in scoring, assists, rebounds, steals, and all advanced stats.
Same record in the West with Murray out 23 games.
SGA is amazing but this isn't close to a snub.
With this logic Kobe and Lebron definitely deserve more mvps then… Carmelo also should have one
Bruh, SGA took the youngest team in the league to the 1st seed in a tough Western conference which included being ahead of the nuggets and beating them 3- 1 in the reg season. We have a rookie as our starting C, an undrafted player in Dort, a 2nd year player in J Wub and giddey who did not have a great year at SF. Most people can't even name our bench players. Jokic is an absolute beast and I take nothing away from how good he is but cmon.. Theyre defending champs. On paper he has much more help than Shai did. I feel like people voted for Jokic because they didn't do it last year when they should've. SGA was robbed
@@heisenberg3183 you’re factoring in expectations which is narrative driven. Also, JW and Chet have arguably been more consistent than anyone on the nuggets other than Joker this regular season. JW is so underrated
@@TheStylishChefCheese yes, Lebron and Kobe should have won more. Narratives shouldn’t drive the MVP vote. It should be the most valuable player. Just because people fucked up in the past doesn’t mean we should continue to fuck up.
@@heisenberg3183how is Jokic' team better? People overrate Murray, when his career numbers aren't much different than Jalen Williams' (Williams is actually more efficient). I'd argue Williams is more valuable since he can play positions 1 through 4 (Murray isn't that versatile). As a matter of fact, Williams logged 83% of his minutes at the 4 last year.
You're underrating the value Giddey gives you at the guard position alongside Shai. And Aaron Wiggins, Cason Wallace, and Isaiah Joe are great glue guys off the bench.
Chet Holmgren was a solid starter, and had a great rookie season, especially coming off that foot injury.
Imo, y'all have a better overall supporting cast. Only MPJ is decidedly better than Dort (and it's not even close---coz Dort is garbage, ion care how good he is defensively). Gordon is a really good player, but I highly doubt y'all are trading us Jaylen Williams for Gordon, so just stop with these BS narratives.
Yall wrong on this one ngl, Jokic deserved it
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-- uh, biggest snub? It's not even close. SGA is a throwback to SGs making a case (Kobe, MJ to Harden-WB-Curry).
Outside of scoring, Jokic has the same record plus better stats and advanced stats: BPM and VORP. I can't believe it is a talking point.
Jokic currently showing why he's the MVP
So is Shai…
@@duffal0Jokic in game 5 >>>> Shai in game 5. Mans dominates the DPOY multiple possessions in a row, going straight at him all 2nd half, at one point in the 4th was 12/16!!!! And the passes to Gordon exploiting Gobert roaming while SlowMo/Kat was on him was also phenomenal.
Your obviously a new TH-cam nba fan 😂😂😂 MVP is for REGULAR season so his current stats in the playoffs don’t mean anything AT ALL😂
@@calebstevens9446post season games don’t count for awards u slow kids 😂😂😂 regular season only for any awards like that
@@BasedTaurell what does that have to do with that I said? 💀 please stop @ing me
Biggest snub 🤣 He literally clears SGA in everything except ppg 😭 Same record, top 10 in ppg, rpg, apg, leads every advanced metric in existence... GTFO
Shai was the only mvp candidate this year that was top 10 in offense n defense 🤷🏾♂️
Every advanced metric? Shai is top 3 in almost every meaningful advanced metric. Jokic is the better player, but Shai deserved MVP this year
@@duffal0 how? they have the same record, neither team has all stars.
One of y’all’s coldest takes since the creation of the pod. Jokic and SGA were neck and neck this year, that in itself negates a “big snub” let alone the biggest in NBA history 😭
Fax
Why they acting like okc was well ahead in the standing? They literally had the same record and just got the first seed through tie breakers lol
nobody had okc in the top 5
@@AshtonWilliams-oo6cp so? they still have the same record
Who’s here after Jokic just dropped 40 tonight? Lmaoo man stop the Joker hate
he’s not going to fly you out
Playoff stats don’t mean shit for the mvp race u half wit
@@cutc2k764💀 nigga praying
Do you know what hate means?
1 2 3 Cancun
The biggest snubb? Lmaoo talking like jokic shouldnt even had been a finalists
I’m saying wtf😂
Right this gotta be they worst take ever
Lol Okay calm down…. that’s a wild statement in the title
Not really… Shai was very close, only a few votes away. They were both far ahead of Luka in voting.
@@duffal0 a few votes away? Jokic had 79 first place votes and shai had 15 first place votes. Thats not close at all.
I’m starting to think these past nba players are stupid or don’t watch games
They don't bruh
Yet they want mvp voting rights. They mostly picking off eye test, I mean listen to their reasons for wanting SGA over Jokic. Since when was it about avg 30....
It’s bizarre man. It’s like they all value PPG above all else, or they’re guards or wings and don’t like it when bigs or Euros win. It’s not like Teague was some scrub, he was an above average player in the league for while, so he should know as well as anyone why Jokic is the best player in the league. Shai had a great season, and is a pretty easy pick for second best this year, but Jokic put up yet another all time great season for counting stats, advanced stats, and winning. If they beat the T-Wolves which is their toughest opponent from a matchup standpoint then they likely will win the title again, but all these lazy-ass analysts and former players will STILL find a way to diminish Jokic’s accomplishments.
@@ashgodsvhe did more than just avg 30 that was just the icing on the cake
they don't watch games, and with a lot of them, these podcasts are exposing why they could never win.. so many True Hooper ass mfs that have no clue what actually WINS in the league
Jokic has better counting stats overall, waaay better advanced stats, his team had the same record as Shai’s, he played five more games and Murray missed 1/4 of the season. So how is him winning the biggest snub in NBA history? Is it because people are sick of him winning? Because there’s bias against Euros? Bias against bigs? Someone please explain to me why Shai had the better season outside of your own personal feelings because the numbers all say Jokic.
Jeff has True Hooper Brain, and SGA has better moves with the ball, so that's it.
There is no arguments, just straight up racism, and that's a shame, especially for a symbol of empowerment that is the NBA
Get out of shaqs ass man got 14 votes joker got 75 weren’t even that close you all acting like Shari would have got ok to number one without j will chet Dort and giddey
You acting like jokic would have got denver to first place or 2nd place without Murray and porter and Gordon shut up basketball ain't a one man sport
@@lovingschabingajr9902 Tf? How’s he acting like that? You’re literally just saying $h¡t… actually you’re just reusing what he said but changing SGA with Jokic and OKC’s starters with Denver’s starters, which makes absolutely no sense
@@Austin.Kilgorebro what. the Nuggets were 13-10 in the last 23 games of the regular season without Jamal Murray …. he raises a valid point comparing Denver and OKCs supporting cast
When seen joker without the team he has now and he still won mvp, so yes shai was a snub
@@lovingschabingajr9902Murray missed like 30 games, Gordon was a nobody in Orlando, his peak was coming 2nd in the dunk contest, and MPJ can't even score without Jokic on the floor. Crazy ass take
As a black, this racist as ever lol
They both deserved it. Ain’t no snub
Participation trophy
No its not. Yall just salty. Jokic is better and more valuable. Plain and simple
Without a ball it’s only a court 😂
This podcast resorting to trolling shock statements to get views. 😂
Why do black people hate Jokic so much?
Who is talking color? Why even bring color of people in it? This is why there's so much racist talk in regards to Catlin Clark. It's like people just want it to be a race thing. Maybe you're just a person who looks at color when choosing a favorite. 🤷🏾♂
@@EzdoesitPro nah, its a fact. And Caitlin has nothing to do with this.
Perkins @@EzdoesitPro
Snub? At this point in his career shais a glorified jumpshooter. It wasnt even that close of a race.
L take
The take that Shai "got snubbed" for losing the MVP race to Jokic is so crazy this channel should be renamed Club 420. Teague is just mad to see a center controlling the game better than pgs like him.
Y'all should be happy the best player in the league won it. That usually doesn't happen.
Stfu. Jokic beats out SGA on all categories except points which is an overrated stat btw. The biggest snub was last year. Y’all just mad an “unathletic” foreign white man is the best player in the association.
U white for sure but u right😂😂
Lmaoo this whole thing that shai is carrying them from the 8th seed is wrong Chet was not playing and j-dub is good shai could’ve won but jokic damn near average a triple double like what are we talking about just say you wanted the black guy to win😂.
Crazy Jeff said it’s over 🤣
Greatest snub in history? Idk about all that. Toss up in my opinion, Joker basically carrying the nuggets with Murray out for 20+ games and they finished with the same record.
Yall are fuckin gassing it Jokic was deserving this isn’t a Nash 06 situation STOP IT
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You an eedyat bruh....
Ahh nice! Lol I’m glad I saw this comment cause now I learned a way to call ppl eedyats without getting my comment ❌’d
Think ima try using ideeit though lol
@@Austin.Kilgore eedyat is the common way people say idiot in UK slang.
@@abdq4712ahh lol I though it was a way to skirt TH-cam flag system… cause they STAY deleting my comments if I say anything insulting/offensive
this is a freezing cold take off the bat.
Nikola jokic haters embarrassing themselves on a daily basis😂😂😂
I wasnt a fan of him winning MVP either but as far as deserving ifJokic has a high EPG% rating he'll ALWAYS be top 3 in the MVP race
Voter fatigue. Jokic deserved it just as much, if not more than anyone else.
I don't get it.
Jokic is clearly the MVP.
But, Luka is way above SGA - WAY ABOVE. So, how is SGA even in the conversation!?
I can understand someone making a case for Luka - Luka is incredible - but SGA!? Come on. It's silly.
People use "snubbed" and "robbed" with no understanding of what those terms actually mean.
I got no problem with folks sayin they think SGA shoulda won but biggest snub ain’t even close to the truth
What days do pods drop
you still got time to delete this after last nights game vs the “DPOY”
Kobe being snubbed by Steve Nash was the biggest snub. Ya'll must've forgotten.
facts
No he wasn't
Kobe was the 7th seed cmon fam, that was Dirk or Bron’s award. 60 wins for Dirk putting up 26.6, 3, 9. Then you got Bron in his THIRD year leading that bum Cavs team to 50 wins 2nd seed, averaging 31, 6.6, and 7
Nuggets took over their series and Joker woke up...meanwhile SAG and the thunder about to choke theirs away...Jokic MVP well deserved
Lebron and Shaq was bigger snubs for 5 different years
Whats records have shai been breaking this season?
Ya'll just mad he's white
Definitely not the biggest snub. I think it should have been Shai too but only because Jokic has 2 and we know is great. Shai is a new player that lead his team to a number 1 seed and is the most consistent
They won the same amount of games damn.
„at least they had the best record on that time“ 😂😂😂 they had the same ammount of wins like the nuggets! its getting more and more racial this whole topic and they should be ashamed of themselfes! especially Joker was cooking them all the last few games 😂😂😂
it's not the biggest snub but it was a snub if you base it off how the NBA has selected MVPs.
100% they used to deny LeBron MVP when he was in his Prime just for a fresh face. And now they hand it to Jokic so easily also Lebron or Kobe would have never won MVP as a 6 seed . Shai is young and took the youngest team ever to a 1 seed, idk how he didnt get it like D Rose did back in the day.
That number one seed thing doesn’t matter at all. The teams literally had the same record
Joker said “Bet”
Just take a lookat records Jokic holding you have them in Wikipedia now if zou find another active player with that amount of records hads down...
The broadcasters in games 2 and 3 barely knew anything about OKC
In my opinion curry snubbed harden in 2015 and even the players voted harden for mvp after the season
Joker heard this nd dropped 40😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Jokić does not follow the podcasts of insignificant characters.🤮
@@brankovicbrankoni1527 Wipe yo mouth gang 😂
Hold this L Teague
take it easy on the agave teague
Not playing joker joker deuce deuce is letting me know you Not Like Us
“Do not recommend channel”
This some hating to say biggest snub lol.
Naw. Nash over Kobe was the craziest sub. Atleast Jokic had the stats.
OKC wasn’t best team in the league
You are wrong but everyone also thinks it so its all good 👍
That why Luka finna do him in tn 😭
jokic proving it in the playoffs and he’s had the tougher route
Trash take. Jokic absolutely deserved it.
Bro game 4 over why yall talking about it this don’t make sense
First OKC is not best team i the league, Boston is. 2nd they have same score as Denver.
F*** off 😂😂 you guys are genuinely on point but this one is some serious BS
Im truly embarrassed for all of you
Thank you thank you
198 likes and 1.3k dislikes for those he can't see. L take . Not even going to bother wasting my time watching
Giannis winning MVP over Harden
Nah, that was last year!
L take. Same suspects.
Shai trendy we get it but snub???
There was no snub, the joker is miles ahead of any other candidate.
And if there was a snub, Tatum deserved it more than Shai.
You said tatum nah that's crazy stop the cap
@@lovingschabingajr9902 best player of the best regular season team...
This is the criteria that used to be automatic the get mvp before all the analytical bull crap...
So Jeff just proved that he doesn't actually watch basketball. Just sits in his parents basement hatin
shai was the 1 seed. jokic was the 3 seed. the MVP race was very close, so you ultimately have to give it to the better player. if luka was the 1 seed, and jokic the 3 seed, you'd give luka cos the gap between them isn't as much as the gap between jokic and shai. plus luka had to do more with way way less, plus injuries throughout the season, which is why if the mavs were the 1 seed, it'll be unanimous.
jokic was the 2 seed and they had the same record, the whole top seed doesn't sand the way they think it does
Did I accidentally click onto a Gilbert Arenas pod? Absolutely terrible take
Rasists?
Yall cap 😂
Hell nah
Terrible take . Joker 🃏 is the truth
Stoooooopid take okc and denver have the same record
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No one on earth thought OKC was going to be the number 1 seed. Leading that team to the number 1 seed and averaging 30 with no other starters over 20 ppg and no veterans. Just a team of 25 and under guys. No way jokic should have won over SGA.
Whether people thought the Thunder would be the 1 seed is irrelevant. Thanks Chet.
The Thunder are perfectly built. The only reason Shai only has a 19 PPG scorer instead of a 20 PPG scorer like Murray is because Jokic passes the ball more than Shai lol. Jokic could average 35 PPG if he wanted and Murray wouldn't crack 18 if he did that. OKC has the best 3 pt shooting team in the league, you give Joker all those shooters and it's 65 wins guaranteed lol. Yall are delusional, Jokic had better stats and the two teams had the same record. Jokic is MVP, get over it.
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So it’s irrelevant that the thunder are the number one seed but it’s perfectly logical for you to play “what if” and say joker could average 35 if he wanted to?! But he didn’t. Denver won the championship last season and were expected to be title contenders again this year. Nobody thought OKC were legitimate contenders and absolutely no one thought they would get the number one seed. Shai should have won MVP.
He was great but you’re pretending like it wasn’t because of all the young players on the team took a huge leap. Shai was considered a top 5 player 2 months into the season before this one and his team didn’t even make the playoffs. U act like he’s lebron carrying a cast or no names in Cleveland to 66 wins. He’s great but that’s no what’s going on here
@@selfmade8884 No, it's irrelevant that people didn't THINK they would be the 1 seed. Literally doesn't matter that people didn't expect CHET HOLMGREN to improve OKC that much, but he did.
Yes, Jokic didn't because he makes the correct play every time. You said that Jokic having 1 teammate average exactly 20 while J Dub "only averaged 19.5" 💀 is proof thatt Jokic supposedly had all this help that Shai didn't have. Meanwhile, the reason Shai doesn't have a teammate averaging the magical "20 ooooooo" is because he takes too many damn shots.
No, sorry. You don't get MVP just because "nobody" expected your team to be tied for the 1 seed. Especially when YOU aren't the reason they improved so much any damn way. Chet is the reason they got so much better, along with the arrival of J Dub and Lu. Shai doing the same shit he did last year when they only won 41 games. Jokic would NEVER win only 41 games. Mf won 48 with 16 dudes who aren't even employed 2 year later 💀. Same record, better stats, better analytics, better value metrics. Jokic is the MVP, get over it.
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So who has a better supporting cast? Jokic or SGA?
Telling an actual NBA player he’s wrong for his analysis of the SPORT in which he played is wild to me
Ppl say this till nba players start saying stuff they don’t wanna hear lmao
Jokic is wack af
Nah you are wack and you always have been, since birth.
We alllll know why the pushing this Joke…r
Jokic is so overrated. The style of play eliminated the traditional 5 man. So Jokic is now essentially playing against small forwards. He has at least 60 pounds on most of his match ups. History isn't going to be kind for him.
lol 😂 😅
History isn't going to be kind to you either since you a nobody loser
ALL YA IN HERE TALKIN BOUT WHAT JOKIC DOIN NOW IN THE PLAYOFFS.. yall slow asl fr POST SEASON STATS DONT MEAN SHIT FOR MVP OR ANY REGULAR SEASON AWARDS so shut it
L take