Yeah, nurses stand while they visit with each other for 90% of their shifts while office workers sit and play video games for 90% of their shifts. (Say NOTHING if you haven't spent at least a week in hospital. Your denial of facts doesn't change them.)
@@BoreasCastel that's so cute that you think that. I have in fact worked in hospitals. I grew up in a health care family and have literally spent my whole life around doctors and nurses. You clearly don't know what nurses do.
It doesn't help that the Ottawa public transit system and commercial real estate is outrageously dependent on government workers coming into the office.
Transit is actually not dependable and is downright dangerous in Toronto. This lady shows her privilege by ignoring the horrors of commuting, especially in winter. This is not the 20th century. How backward can you get?
Why isn't she in the office instead of on tv? I would lose 2 hours a day to commute to work, plus the cost and wear and tear on your car and the cost of parking, getting new business attire, babysitter, all that carbon from cars, increased traffic,etc, and they expect you in the office with no change in pay???. Productivity from me would certainly drop because I would do the bare minimum and would never stay after work like I do now, because I'm not in a rush to get the kids picked up.I will never go back in the office!!! Lots of remote work that pays better than government work anyways. This is backwards thinking by the government overlords who mostly work from home themselves. So divisive!
Notice how she starts off by dismissing the real data on no lack of productivity, ignores the studies that show it increases productivity such as the Stanford study and then goes onto how they "feel" it would work better to have them in an office. Facts over feelings.
@@sophiecawlishaw5245 The OP quoted the Stanford Study on productivity -- where's YOUR citation for "MOST departments have failed to meet their own benchmarks."
It’s always the workers that know what’s best for the business… and it just happened to coincide with making their life easier.. Pretty soon they’re gonna want a raise because working at home is so difficult..
This lady has no idea of what she is talking about lol. Have been a remote worker from 2013 and as productive as anyone else exposed to less sicknesses via viruses, poorly designed office spaces, poor ventilation etc ! Embrace tech. and innovate lol
💯 plus there's a lot of "observation" which I'm willing to bet are from the old-school management types that are not willing to learn how to manage a remote team.
100%. Picked up on that too. Apparently the entire country is managed by 'thoughts'. How encouraging. What baffles me is that she's speaks as if she's read a bunch of management books but never managed a day in her life 🤔. I 'think' she's factually wrong.
Workers are brought back so they can help pay those expensive leases on those expensive offices. Residential real estate is bad but corporate real estate is a sneeze away from full collapse.
Question: making them go back to office, will that mean we can call a number and actually speak to a real live person? I doubt it. And it’s not just the government these days. Try to call you local banking branch. Almost impossible.
More public service employees,less service. We need to get rid of about half of the public service, half the MPs and half the senate! We can’t afford to have the biggest employer in Canada be government workers !
All about politics, banks, and the power of money, greed, and donations. Opportunity to lower emissions, the government footprint and all the outrageous costs associated with furnishing, maintenance etc... etc... 2 times a week allows for desk sharing, 3 times a week does not. She is bought.
Complete horse manure. "Creating a physical space for collaboration" is meaningless when your teammates are all across the country. So folks will be wasting time commuting to conference calls.
Gonna step in the fire hear, but gotta say. My team has no issue with return to the office...our issue is we don't have permanent assigned seating. For myself specifically I'll come into the office since my letter of offer says I work downtown, but the fact I have to book some random spot 4 weeks in advance and if I come in later than 8 there could be no spots to work is straight up dumb.
This is the incompetency of the bureaucracy. They should have assigned teams work areas, perhaps somewhat reduced, but teams should be together. I ran into someone that is going back to office, and they can choose the location of the office, that just defeats the purpose. Managers should have demanded better structured for work spaces, but most are poor managers and don't get the working together concept.
I can tell you there is a significant drop in performance at the CRA. They have added 10,000 jobs but it takes months to get answers to simple questions.
Coming fro IT perspective, it is more disteaxting to work in an Office than from home. The performance metrics can be observed daily, so there is no need to get stressed out stuck for hours in comute that is nightmare...
@@ccsmith793 Haha, yeah, as if going back before COVID would be such a bad thing. Point is, this isn't a punishment. It is standard operating procedure. COVID was a blip, not the norm.
@@tylerdurden8378COVID-19 was planned as a societal control experiment. It destroyed lives by affecting mental health with unnecessary lockdowns, particularly of public parks, recreational trails, and other facilities.
Then go two days, locate two teams in said building and bam, you now have the building occupied 4 out of 5 days and you can now get rid of the unused building and save the taxpayers millions of dollars a year
Team work does not increase productivity. It only reduces productivity. Why don't she release her study and make her report public to prove the conclusion of drop in overall performance, culture, team work, and team building.
@@barbarastoll1978 It works well when you hire unskilled and unqualified candidates to do the job. Zero productivity with qualified and skilled workers.
The way rush hour traffic is these days it takes a long time to get anywhere, the roads are so over crowded with cars just sitting there hardly moving and wasting everyone's time and fuel. It would be smart to get everyone who can work from home to do remote work and clear up the traffic nightmare on our roads everyday and stop burning all that gas for nothing. Why would you not want less cars on the roads?
Don't worry, that day came with the lockdowns. That day will come again for different reasons and then everyone will be complaining they cannot go anywhere.
Clearly our culture towards women needs more work. No wonder women and children are still being abused and murdered by men! Please teach your sons better.
She's very unlikeable and didn't endear me to her side of the argument. She basically said the statistics worked against her own point. Plus the current Canadian govt is just awful. A blight, really. Bloated, greedy and incompetent.
Public service has expanded buy 70% in the last 8 years and service has declined, no one answers the phones and the government is not accessible…..someone is not doing their job….
Because you want more inflation ? They already make over 30% more then their private sector counterparts . But more taxes to pay bloated wages and inflation is what hard working tax paying Canadians want.
2 hours bus train and bus in the morning and 2 hours bus train and bus after work. Do you really think this help to be more efficient and increase productivity????
@@user-iw5mp5th6d Or they can move closer to their work . Except the world revolves around them and the private sector owes them because we could not survive without them. 😆
Commute complaints? Work in construction we are constantly moving site to site building homes and offices. Maybe construction workers should work from home as well?
I just want service canada locations filled with employees. Its ridiculous to wait in line outside to make an appointment. We use to go, take a number and wait.
She needs to look at a cost-benefit analysis. The cost of commuting and the value of the time spent commuting, against the miniscule benefits she describes. In the end, happy employees who have saved their commuting costs and saved travel time will likely be happy with smaller raises. I would be! This is about power. We had a split crew working software admin in two locations and each chose the location closer to home. The manager was obsessed with seeing EVERY MEMBER out his office window, so closed the other site, making miserable longer commutes for them. Productivity went down after that because of employee resentment!
Her logic in being able to pivot to work offline because she has been in her role for a long time and saying there's gaps because of distance is flawed. I started a new role in the OPS and was trained for a week in person and a week from home. Just enough to comfortably work remotely and survive and thrive off outlook and teams. No office job needs in person collaboration for an extended period. Maybe temporary for training but that's it. I have 2 little kids with a messed up bus schedule...the flexibility to wfh to handle that stuff is worth more than gold.
what about those whose team members are not local but all over the country? why go onsite only to go to MS Teams. Her voice changes when she becomes defensive.
She doesn't have any facts or data. it's her personal issue. In order for this to be true and not a personal opinion of this woman she needs to present documented facts and proof and deadlines and dates and offices factually documented with less productivity. There is fact most businesses and countries report factually an improvement in overall office and business productivity. I person know employees of the University of Calgary who work from home a few days week from the office because the university does find work is improved and employee satisfaction improved.
Stop bringing up the CRA like that’s all public employees do. You do realize that they monitor them right? That things wouldn’t be functioning if they weren’t working? You guys just sound bitter and uneducated about the realities of what they do. Why should they drive/bus to do the same thing in a cubicle that they could be doing at home?
@@mtm101designs9 this is a pretty ridiculous take because they have to commute and still do the full hours anyway. You guys do realize they don’t get paid for commuting right? They have to pay for that out-of-pocket including parking fees. So why would they want to pay more to do the exact same job? Besides, that money doesn’t go to the taxpayer, but to the businesses located in downtown. So you’re not saving any meaningful money. I’d rather they spend that money on local shops.
Our government service is bloated and horrendous. We are getting poor service for high cost. This just reinforces the stance that gov workers don't care about taxpayers
The federal government productivity is an absolute joke With a 101 thousand new employees since liberals took power the service sucks Something needs to be done either get more efficient or start contracting some of this work out to private sector
The fact that the federal workforce has grown by 40% and productivity levels are below pre pandemic levels is a great indicator of why they need to go back to work in the office. They are looking after their pre school aged children, shopping for groceries etc... during their work hours.
so many buzzwords......pivot, culture, relationships, gaps, team building, dialogue, process, triage.....just say what should be said..."get in or you are out of a job"
another out of touch govt worker says - "nurses worked through the pandemic on reserves"...ok so did all nurses because they are essential frontline healthcare workers and not not lazy overpaid federal govt workers who DID NOT work at the office during the pandemic and still refuse to do so
What about the carbon tax and reducing footprint. There is no justification for those taxes anymore. What about saving energy .... so many questions no valid justification.
No one is in the office at the same time because they don’t actually have the same space like they used to. So you’re essentially just doing teams zoom calls from your cubicle instead of at home. So that’s even dumber.
@@thezu9250 See how an employee in the private sector does more in one day than an employee in the government sector does in a week, I wouldn't call it as "equivalent jobs"
What was this biased one sided argument? Are we just parroting what the government wants Canadians to hear? Where is the opposing side making a case for remote workers? Shame on you.
So you as a taxpayer want to pay for leases on buildings so government lackeys can go to the office to do spreadsheets they could do at home? Why, exactly? Explain the fiscal logic of wanting taxpayer money wasted on those buildings for work that can be done at home.
All long as you can quantify the work being done. Where you can count the key strokes, and not the current condition where all you are permitted see if they log in and out. And yes, all work can be quantified and a manager should be able to monitor work being done. If not, what are you afraid of?
So you as a taxpayer want to pay for leases on buildings so government lackeys can go to the office to do spreadsheets they could do at home? Why, exactly? Explain the fiscal logic of wanting taxpayer money wasted on those buildings for work that can be done at home.
@@loudenlaffnite246 Government workers are lazy fucks. As a tax payer, I want them back in the office, not watching movies and taking naps on the taxpayers dime.
We"ve all seen the unemployment numbers. Workers saving money and not spending it is not in the government's best interest. So if they can leverage 10s of thousands of peo0le to spend more money on their local economies, then their going to do it.
You can't have in person meetings if you allowed Ottawa based employees to move to other cities during the pandemic. Or, you decided in hiring ppl from other parts of the country but team is based in Ottawa.
Know a guy who runs bad office cleaning rackets who wants this along with the folks who he has to grease to get the contracts lol ! So the grifting goes from the bottom to top .. REIT payments !
Trying to equate the work a nurse does with the work of a office clerk shows just how out of touch she is.
So true.
Literally takes a month for government office clerks to approve check boxes on forms. it's not even close to a nurses's productivity.
Yeah, nurses stand while they visit with each other for 90% of their shifts while office workers sit and play video games for 90% of their shifts. (Say NOTHING if you haven't spent at least a week in hospital. Your denial of facts doesn't change them.)
@@BoreasCastel that's so cute that you think that. I have in fact worked in hospitals. I grew up in a health care family and have literally spent my whole life around doctors and nurses. You clearly don't know what nurses do.
Don't be fooled by anything the government says. We are nothing more than consumers to the government.
Shell game.
More like asset’s, like cattle that can be bought, sold and used to borrow money against.
Seems that she lives in a parallel world
It doesn't help that the Ottawa public transit system and commercial real estate is outrageously dependent on government workers coming into the office.
Transit is actually not dependable and is downright dangerous in Toronto. This lady shows her privilege by ignoring the horrors of commuting, especially in winter. This is not the 20th century. How backward can you get?
@@Annapurna818LOL. An employer requiring an employee to show up is not "privilege". Although thinking it's privilege shows some... err... privilege.
Nothing the public service does is efficient , further more we have about 30% more public service than we need!
Why isn't she in the office instead of on tv? I would lose 2 hours a day to commute to work, plus the cost and wear and tear on your car and the cost of parking, getting new business attire, babysitter, all that carbon from cars, increased traffic,etc, and they expect you in the office with no change in pay???. Productivity from me would certainly drop because I would do the bare minimum and would never stay after work like I do now, because I'm not in a rush to get the kids picked up.I will never go back in the office!!! Lots of remote work that pays better than government work anyways. This is backwards thinking by the government overlords who mostly work from home themselves. So divisive!
@@dashriprock3737 Then you get a job where your employer is ok with you working from home. The federal government is not.
Government want employees to take and pay more for public transit, burn more fuel and spend more on buying lunch and pay parking fee.
Don't like it.....then quit
no they want them to work 5 days a week
@@junzhang1248 if you don’t to work then quit stop free loading on my dollars
Buy a thermos and pack your lunch.
You can't be paid more, have a more comfortable job, and have almost no risk of being let go.
Public sector office work is a joke.
"I think" doesn't cut it. It's your opinion against mine, all orgs need KPIs to evaluate performance, the rest is opinions not facts
Notice how she starts off by dismissing the real data on no lack of productivity, ignores the studies that show it increases productivity such as the Stanford study and then goes onto how they "feel" it would work better to have them in an office.
Facts over feelings.
Most departments have failed to meet their own benchmarks.
@@sophiecawlishaw5245 The OP quoted the Stanford Study on productivity -- where's YOUR citation for "MOST departments have failed to meet their own benchmarks."
What productivity? It was always a very low bar to begin with.
@@sophiecawlishaw5245 Untrue, lets see your facts ?
It’s always the workers that know what’s best for the business… and it just happened to coincide with making their life easier..
Pretty soon they’re gonna want a raise because working at home is so difficult..
This lady has no idea of what she is talking about lol. Have been a remote worker from 2013 and as productive as anyone else exposed to less sicknesses via viruses, poorly designed office spaces, poor ventilation etc ! Embrace tech. and innovate lol
she keeps saying "I think" .. no factual information is shared.
💯 plus there's a lot of "observation" which I'm willing to bet are from the old-school management types that are not willing to learn how to manage a remote team.
100%. Picked up on that too. Apparently the entire country is managed by 'thoughts'. How encouraging.
What baffles me is that she's speaks as if she's read a bunch of management books but never managed a day in her life 🤔.
I 'think' she's factually wrong.
Screw that. Have all of them work from home, then rezone and convert the office buildings into apartments to end the housing crisis.
Hope it didn't take too long to come up with that one.
If they did that It would save Billions of dollars.
Too much money to be made in a housing crisis can't fix that.
Working from home that’s a joke.
@@MM-xg2td
Would cost a fortune.
Workers are brought back so they can help pay those expensive leases on those expensive offices. Residential real estate is bad but corporate real estate is a sneeze away from full collapse.
Question: making them go back to office, will that mean we can call a number and actually speak to a real live person? I doubt it. And it’s not just the government these days. Try to call you local banking branch. Almost impossible.
Banks only hire part-time with few exceptions. Banks are also obsessed with degrees above all else.
@@Gregory-o6v they still should be able answer a phone though lol
We all know. Too many empty building. No rent coming in.
More public service employees,less service. We need to get rid of about half of the public service, half the MPs and half the senate! We can’t afford to have the biggest employer in Canada be government workers !
What a wasteful mandate. More traffic gridlock, more carbon emissions, less quality of life.
100% slavery at its best
100% agree
The irony of this lady when was government known for performance metrics
Diff. racket as McKinsey will make sure their contract lasts longer lol
All about politics, banks, and the power of money, greed, and donations. Opportunity to lower emissions, the government footprint and all the outrageous costs associated with furnishing, maintenance etc... etc... 2 times a week allows for desk sharing, 3 times a week does not. She is bought.
Government has grown by 40% in the last decade, how about cutting this obvious excess ?
AMEN!!
their trying to do it so you Spend More money. Period.
What's it to anyone where they work from, as long as we get the service we want?
Imagine having to work at the office 3 days a week..., the nerve. Wants versus needs. Less government, less interference.
@@dmann4683:
What difference does it make where they work, if we get the same service?
We aren't getting the service though! Have you ever called and spoke to a federal government worker? It's insane
@@matthewhunt1388:
What is insane? Be specific: Wait times? Bad comms? ???
... and what this has to do with where they work?
@@matthewhunt1388 Exactly.
How about an Office Space study? "What exactly do you do here?" Trim the fat and get more doctors and nurses in hospitals.
Complete horse manure. "Creating a physical space for collaboration" is meaningless when your teammates are all across the country. So folks will be wasting time commuting to conference calls.
To help retailers. $5 prezel $6.25 a coffee and $8.99 sandwich😂😂😂😂😂
Gonna step in the fire hear, but gotta say. My team has no issue with return to the office...our issue is we don't have permanent assigned seating. For myself specifically I'll come into the office since my letter of offer says I work downtown, but the fact I have to book some random spot 4 weeks in advance and if I come in later than 8 there could be no spots to work is straight up dumb.
This is the incompetency of the bureaucracy. They should have assigned teams work areas, perhaps somewhat reduced, but teams should be together. I ran into someone that is going back to office, and they can choose the location of the office, that just defeats the purpose. Managers should have demanded better structured for work spaces, but most are poor managers and don't get the working together concept.
FACTS ...
Thanks for the insight
I can tell you there is a significant drop in performance at the CRA. They have added 10,000 jobs but it takes months to get answers to simple questions.
What are your questions? I recently retired from CRA and may be able to help.
@@sktoh4469 Ha Ha Ha. I'm now retired from the government and still here to help. 🙂
Coming fro IT perspective, it is more disteaxting to work in an Office than from home. The performance metrics can be observed daily, so there is no need to get stressed out stuck for hours in comute that is nightmare...
100% this
Uhmm disteaxting perfect example why you shouldn't be working in Canada and why everyone should be at work 5 days a week
@@ananagy2630Thank you.
IT folks like you are probably scared of humans cuz of lack of social skills. so you rather stay home and work😂
Do you make up words ? Do you mean distracting ? .....We need to raise the bar on expectations from self proclaimed professionals .
Only reason you need to be in office is if you need to touch/taste/smell something/someone. Otherwise remote work is perfectly fine.
No productivity has been lost BUT they still want to punish the workers....
Yes, punish them by getting them to do what everyone was doing before 2020. Really weird ask.
@@tylerdurden8378welcome to 2024, we still don't have time travel so why are you trying to go back to 2020?
@@ccsmith793 Haha, yeah, as if going back before COVID would be such a bad thing. Point is, this isn't a punishment. It is standard operating procedure. COVID was a blip, not the norm.
Productivity hasn't been lost because there wasn't any to begin with. Referring to government employees as workers is a contradiction.
@@tylerdurden8378COVID-19 was planned as a societal control experiment. It destroyed lives by affecting mental health with unnecessary lockdowns, particularly of public parks, recreational trails, and other facilities.
Government mouthpiece
Because FED government doesn't like leaving the office building vacant in most of the time.
Then go two days, locate two teams in said building and bam, you now have the building occupied 4 out of 5 days and you can now get rid of the unused building and save the taxpayers millions of dollars a year
What about the province and their failure to address housing?
@@VitaminsB1212 Could lead to overcrowding and assc. health issues lol
Team work does not increase productivity. It only reduces productivity. Why don't she release her study and make her report public to prove the conclusion of drop in overall performance, culture, team work, and team building.
It depends on your team. Maybe you have had a bad experience in a "Team" environment, many companies find it works well.
@@barbarastoll1978 It works well when you hire unskilled and unqualified candidates to do the job. Zero productivity with qualified and skilled workers.
The so-called team environment is a farce. Taxpayers' information is treated as so confidential no one dares share it with a fellow team member.
The way rush hour traffic is these days it takes a long time to get anywhere, the roads are so over crowded with cars just sitting there hardly moving and wasting everyone's time and fuel. It would be smart to get everyone who can work from home to do remote work and clear up the traffic nightmare on our roads everyday and stop burning all that gas for nothing. Why would you not want less cars on the roads?
Cause a parked car doesn't bring in carbon tax. This is a money grab
Don't worry, that day came with the lockdowns. That day will come again for different reasons and then everyone will be complaining they cannot go anywhere.
Get back to work unions. Vacation is over.
Nah, they should stay home. I want clear roads on my way to work.
Give me my desk back with my team then. Anything less than that is disingenuous and a bold face farce.
I own that desk as do all Canadians with tax based employment . It is not yours . Your attitude is a farce !
@@rdhudon7469 so you want them to work on where? You make no sense whatsoever.
Women would
Rather be home….?
Who knew ???
🤣🤣🤣 Closer to the kitchen.
Clearly our culture towards women needs more work. No wonder women and children are still being abused and murdered by men! Please teach your sons better.
She's very unlikeable and didn't endear me to her side of the argument. She basically said the statistics worked against her own point.
Plus the current Canadian govt is just awful. A blight, really. Bloated, greedy and incompetent.
Public service has expanded buy 70% in the last 8 years and service has declined, no one answers the phones and the government is not accessible…..someone is not doing their job….
Pay workers more, gas prices are inflated.
Car pollution will increase
Because you want more inflation ? They already make over 30% more then their private sector counterparts . But more taxes to pay bloated wages and inflation is what hard working tax paying Canadians want.
2 hours bus train and bus in the morning and 2 hours bus train and bus after work. Do you really think this help to be more efficient and increase productivity????
@@user-iw5mp5th6d Or they can move closer to their work . Except the world revolves around them and the private sector owes them because we could not survive without them. 😆
Steve Paco!
Commute complaints? Work in construction we are constantly moving site to site building homes and offices. Maybe construction workers should work from home as well?
I just want service canada locations filled with employees. Its ridiculous to wait in line outside to make an appointment. We use to go, take a number and wait.
She needs to look at a cost-benefit analysis. The cost of commuting and the value of the time spent commuting, against the miniscule benefits she describes. In the end, happy employees who have saved their commuting costs and saved travel time will likely be happy with smaller raises. I would be! This is about power. We had a split crew working software admin in two locations and each chose the location closer to home. The manager was obsessed with seeing EVERY MEMBER out his office window, so closed the other site, making miserable longer commutes for them. Productivity went down after that because of employee resentment!
Another well known problem absolutely bad middle middle managers usually lackeys for even worse top mgmt. lol
The best cost-benefit analysis is a massive reduction in both; overall government and its workforce.
"Learning by observation" - if you work on a computer, what is there to observe?
There are not enough office space to accommodate every employees ! Too bloated.
That isn't a justifiable reason, performance and productivity have improved with WFH
Source?
100%. She’s making stuff up.
I've seen studies that said otherwise. I didn't bother to save it but it was done shortly after lockdowns ended and it was on mainstream sites.
Her logic in being able to pivot to work offline because she has been in her role for a long time and saying there's gaps because of distance is flawed. I started a new role in the OPS and was trained for a week in person and a week from home. Just enough to comfortably work remotely and survive and thrive off outlook and teams. No office job needs in person collaboration for an extended period. Maybe temporary for training but that's it.
I have 2 little kids with a messed up bus schedule...the flexibility to wfh to handle that stuff is worth more than gold.
They keep pushing "collaboration" like shut uppp
Buzz words of the govt.
what about those whose team members are not local but all over the country? why go onsite only to go to MS Teams. Her voice changes when she becomes defensive.
So true. Team members can be located in different provinces.
Apparently, some are expected to work in offices in their local area so that they fulfil the in office mandate. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
She doesn't have any facts or data. it's her personal issue. In order for this to be true and not a personal opinion of this woman she needs to present documented facts and proof and deadlines and dates and offices factually documented with less productivity. There is fact most businesses and countries report factually an improvement in overall office and business productivity. I person know employees of the University of Calgary who work from home a few days week from the office because the university does find work is improved and employee satisfaction improved.
@@user-iw5mp5th6d you must know her
Wait are all employees in the same geographical locations?
Because they want to get paid for not working. Look how hard it is to get a CRA agent on the phone. Because they are not working.
Stop bringing up the CRA like that’s all public employees do. You do realize that they monitor them right? That things wouldn’t be functioning if they weren’t working? You guys just sound bitter and uneducated about the realities of what they do. Why should they drive/bus to do the same thing in a cubicle that they could be doing at home?
This doesn’t sound very green for a liberal climate crisis 😂
Full pay with no commuting costs, no wonder they don't want to go back. The government needs to show some backbone for a change.
If you have a 1 hour commute that is 20 percent of your hours. Let's start talking at a 20% reduction in salary, and that is generous.
@@HondoTrailside I agree completely. If commuting costs are reduced so should pay be reduced. I see them "working from home" at Costco in Ottawa.
those that work from home should get paid less 😁
@@mtm101designs9 this is a pretty ridiculous take because they have to commute and still do the full hours anyway. You guys do realize they don’t get paid for commuting right? They have to pay for that out-of-pocket including parking fees. So why would they want to pay more to do the exact same job? Besides, that money doesn’t go to the taxpayer, but to the businesses located in downtown. So you’re not saving any meaningful money. I’d rather they spend that money on local shops.
Work from home was a temporary "pandemic" measure. Put your grown up pants on and get out the door my little sweeties😂
Yeah, no mention of your major commercial property donors needs?
Work? I'm not sure that's how I would describe what they do. They definitely arent "servants". They rule over the citizens.
Some $50k a year clerical lackey "rules over the citizens?" Who knew doing Excel spreadsheets for paperclips resulted in such societal power!
WHAT A JOKE 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Our government service is bloated and horrendous. We are getting poor service for high cost. This just reinforces the stance that gov workers don't care about taxpayers
Canada's economic productivity is in a state of decline as of the last few years. As the federal civil service grew by 40%. Complete mess.
@@jptrainorthe federal public service had to grow because of the increase in population, there still isn’t enough workers to serve the public.
Wrong
@@Mysterio1021 it has grown 40% since 2015!! Reconnect to reality! It's a bloated disaster.
@@DonnaMorash-v2l lol, the population hasn't grown 40% since 2015. It has grown because: liberal incompetence.
She sounds like a typical federal bureaucrat - blah, blah, blah - zilch
THIS IS JUST WRONG,SHE HAD HER WHOLE LIFE AHEAD OF HER. THIS IS ALL ON THE GOVERNMENT .
All those commuters is going to be great for the emissions … totally in line with Brandeau’s concerns
If only the cons cared about anything but the rich.
Let's try and save corporate real estate values 😮
So, how well did they develop the transit and develop to reduce the traffic in the last 3 years?
"I think" or "I feel" are not arguments. Bye.
She avoided and did not answer the question
The federal government productivity is an absolute joke With a 101 thousand new employees since liberals took power the service sucks Something needs to be done either get more efficient or start contracting some of this work out to private sector
The fact that the federal workforce has grown by 40% and productivity levels are below pre pandemic levels is a great indicator of why they need to go back to work in the office.
They are looking after their pre school aged children, shopping for groceries etc... during their work hours.
Where are you getting you data on productivity?...That's what I thought.
so many buzzwords......pivot, culture, relationships, gaps, team building, dialogue, process, triage.....just say what should be said..."get in or you are out of a job"
Months? It's been 4.5 years!
Needy extroverts, ruining the Public Service
another out of touch govt worker says - "nurses worked through the pandemic on reserves"...ok so did all nurses because they are essential frontline healthcare workers and not not lazy overpaid federal govt workers who DID NOT work at the office during the pandemic and still refuse to do so
Canadians aren't served by maintaining and paying for huge amounts of commercial buildings and real estate.
What about the carbon tax and reducing footprint. There is no justification for those taxes anymore. What about saving energy .... so many questions no valid justification.
3 days is not unreasonable but do 2 and 3 and switch each week. Remember that the workforce is aging and IT is here to stay
Team work is affected by not working in the office.
No one is in the office at the same time because they don’t actually have the same space like they used to. So you’re essentially just doing teams zoom calls from your cubicle instead of at home. So that’s even dumber.
The reasons given were not fact based. It start off with “ I feel” then “I think”.
No data to really support the argument.
Please get back to the office, you aren't doing it well.
We don't need a reason for u to go back to the office, we pay your salary so how bout u go back cause we tell u too
Did anyone hear a single fact in this video?
Average Canadians are working everyday struggling to get by! Our leaders wanna earn more and not show up?? WTF This country is doomed!!
sorry... choking on gas light..... cant breath.... so much gas lighting...
What!? Government union employees want special treatment? I've never heard of such a thing?
It’s not special treatment when equivalent jobs in the private sector are also working from home
@@thezu9250 See how an employee in the private sector does more in one day than an employee in the government sector does in a week, I wouldn't call it as "equivalent jobs"
What was this biased one sided argument? Are we just parroting what the government wants Canadians to hear? Where is the opposing side making a case for remote workers? Shame on you.
All I know is that it takes 10 hours to get an answer from any govt office!!!!!! What the Hell are employees doing at home?!?!
You're lucky....36 hours for me.
That is because Gen Z and millennials run things now. They have no clue about service.
Diff. racket as McKinsey will make sure their contract lasts longer lol
I would also like to do my laundry on company time.
public service should go back to work in-person
Na. They rather have people's info at home and share it.
@@Dot-he2ke hahaha
My team is spread across the country. What is the point of me going in?
@@Sheek888 hahaha. Tough luck. Time to start hiring and retraining.
So you as a taxpayer want to pay for leases on buildings so government lackeys can go to the office to do spreadsheets they could do at home? Why, exactly? Explain the fiscal logic of wanting taxpayer money wasted on those buildings for work that can be done at home.
All long as you can quantify the work being done. Where you can count the key strokes, and not the current condition where all you are permitted see if they log in and out. And yes, all work can be quantified and a manager should be able to monitor work being done. If not, what are you afraid of?
Keystroke counting is a stupid metric. Many jobs require thinking which means fewer keystrokes.
If your boss tells you to go back to the office you go back to the office
So you as a taxpayer want to pay for leases on buildings so government lackeys can go to the office to do spreadsheets they could do at home? Why, exactly? Explain the fiscal logic of wanting taxpayer money wasted on those buildings for work that can be done at home.
Not if you're a federal civil servant apparently. Civil service size up 40%, national economic productivity in decline... hmmm??
@@loudenlaffnite246 Government workers are lazy fucks. As a tax payer, I want them back in the office, not watching movies and taking naps on the taxpayers dime.
What about your mama??
We"ve all seen the unemployment numbers. Workers saving money and not spending it is not in the government's best interest. So if they can leverage 10s of thousands of peo0le to spend more money on their local economies, then their going to do it.
Provide the productivity stats or shut up. But she won't do either -- provide the stats or shut up.
You can't have in person meetings if you allowed Ottawa based employees to move to other cities during the pandemic. Or, you decided in hiring ppl from other parts of the country but team is based in Ottawa.
Time to go buy more gas for your work commute and more Tim’s at break time.
Still you have to wait 2 hours talk to CRA these gold diggers must go back to work 5 days a week why only 3 days a week
LOL they are still working 5 days you 🤡
Companies have to deal with the fact that their rent in those skyscrapers is too damned high.
Know a guy who runs bad office cleaning rackets who wants this along with the folks who he has to grease to get the contracts lol ! So the grifting goes from the bottom to top .. REIT payments !
B.c. they cant corrupt you as much when you work at home.
Nonsense
meh, in office, not in office, nothing gets done either way.
Three days in the office is not a hardship. Come on, folks. Let's get real.
Your right, it would be nice if they can bring back the 1970's office culture. Do you remember those days? What about the Bee Gee's?
No kidding. Hard to believe all the whining and complaining of having to be at the office 3 days per week.
Who paying for setting up the home office..etc.
Make them permanent remote work. Gov't is bloated, especially at Municipal level- do nothing, roles overlap, inefficient.
GET TO WORK
they gonna say "make me"
But but, the corp landlords. They are soooooo poor 😂