Personally I think Paul should get more buffs. Why is my opponent still alive after a Deathfist when they should be turned into a fine mist? Its called ‘Deathfist’ not ‘On- the-brink-of-Deathfist’. Somebody email Harada.
@@beastant12itachi8 think Bryan's -12 on hit unlockable (if he still has it in T8 was about 28-35 frames it's only did about 20 dammy and was punishable in hit
Could you start a "One day with" series please? Start with a character you dont play with normally, and stream play them for a day, and make videos with the footage. Maybe have someone track your wins and losses with each new character you use and then compare them at the end of the series. Just an idea I think you could execute nicely yo!
@@JabJabBinks Its more of a nerf to characters without a full throw game, since generic throws have the homing effect so its easier to react to vs a 1+2 throw. Breaking throws for characters with a full throw game is more match up knowledge tbh.
@@JabJabBinks it's not even that crazy. breaking throws is just something that comes after playing for a long time. it took... 700+ hours but i never practiced
Most Paul players I meet play really solid fundamentals. To people complaining about Pauly while playing Alisa, Dragonuv, Feng and getting beat, Paul players actually learned how to play Tekken and not rely on Tekken 8s button smash buffs. I feel like since Victor got nerfed I see better Victor players learning how to play fundamentals and not spamming, as pre patch Kaz I had a great win streak against Victor now they are actually using their brain I lose matches.
Hellsweep 4 should remove grey health. That would give it some much needed utility and reason to use it instead, trading oki for damage but also to "cash out" on previous oki loops of cd4 1.
I want to see how this Paul is going to do against Supreme. I feel like TMM’s Paul relies to heavily on launches and heavy 1 hit punches from Paul. With better opponent, he might have some real trouble
@@Gabi24492 thats what im saying, - every single character who can freely setup 50/50 and mixup highs mid and lows on the fly is a high tier character imo... paul has no weaknesses, tmm is just underplaying every single character he ever plays - its consistent... he underplayed reina aswell while playing her, now he's underplaying paul with some of the best 50/50's and highest average damage in the game, what is this clown show?🤡🤡🤡 high average damage simply means u dont have to perform to a high level with the character to be efficient, why would that make him difficult to play? thats just tmm sucking at applying the mixups, how else do you explain that shit? people on his level knows how he is going to play, obviously - because they watch him do it... wtf is he expecting to happen when he's constantly streaming the gameplay? thats like expecting a different result from the same practice and the definition of insanity?🤡🤡
The only buff that seems a bit too good is Paul’s f2 now being 13f, and having great range. Strong 13f moves haven’t been common to Paul, but now he has one. It’s spammable and on hit it gives massive advantage.
I'm still in red ranks with Paul. Yet, I can admit he's not op. Certain people just make him look really good. Haorang and Feng are OP. Paul definitely need and I.M.O still need a few more buffs. He's quiet honest actually.
@@tdogg56132 It takes 5 seconds to google search winrates at high ranks and what characters actually win at tournament...5 seconds brother. Please stop coping and go look at the stats.
Should I not be playing Paul? I'm not really good tbh (still in orange ranks), but I picked Paul because he's what I know from my T3 time (last time played), but hearing TMM say he's not good and there is a reason people don't play him in tourney just makes me think its because people just know him. He's legacy and I've heard the term "honest". Not saying that's the reason why I'm losing etc. I definitely do suck, but should I just drop him as a character if he's just not really a competitive player? Surely there is a better pick right?
Why is the camera som zoomed in in these modern iterations like as it was played on a hand held console? It even cuts the feet of the characters at times? Also, can you turn off all distracting shit on screen effects? Is it just me or does tekken 2 looks better/cleaner than tekken 8?
Paul is a good character but takes a lot of brain power to play against people who have the ability to mash all day with no consequences, make it fair and give him a one button so he can mash as well or make hie dwn bk 321 or 323 have a command grab in it , that way the opponent has to respect it and think twice if a command grab is gonna be played or straight combo move , or give him a submission move
Lol if they revert the buff I wouldn't mind at all, most of the buffs are so steppable, slow or high. Give back his rage art cancel or ub 2 homing ch launch property then maybe he's top tier 😂
cmon tmm what are these drag takes...wdym "drag still no1", no he isnt? he isnt even top5 "exceptional damage" - no he doesnt, nina, kuma, law, jack, claudio all deal more dmg, and pauls dmg is even beyond them rn "snk4 hits grounded and chips for a ton" - yes it does hit grounded, as it should and it chips for fucking 5 dmg, thats less than a jab on hit "hatchet hits grounded" - like every other low in the game? like i dunno jin d2?
Right. He isn’t even s tier anymore. Hatchet flings them away destroying oki, has garbage range, is one of the worst lows in the game at -31 but only gets +3?! Kazuya db4 is +3 and only -12 or -13. And hits grounded for better oki and has way better frames on ch. Bryan’s hatchet is drags but ten thousand times better
Wtf was that last paul v byron set. It was tactical up until that point. Like, we can follow the logic of sound players. Then the last set happens and you guys go super saiyan and play t8 at each other like 5 year olds that clearly know something that the rest of us dont.
Paul is basically the new Marduk in this game, if your balls were small enough to enjoy getting braindead wins with Marduk in tekken 7 then Paul is the next best thing in tekken 8
Paul sucks badly in tekken 8 , mash potatoes can become a gourmet salad overnight , his buffs are a joke , he has no combos that lead to a command grab like dragonuv , and he has more highs in neutral y the fuck is that
Why was the damage on death fist increased? Is that what was necessary to make him more consistent? If they couldn't figure out what to do with Alisa, should they just increase chainsaw damage?
deathfist dealing insane damage on counter-hit is an identity thing for Paul, it's just "right". I've never played Paul but when they nerfed it back in Tekken 7 it was a lame decision. Nerfing it would be like making yoshi's suicide blockable: there's many ways you could make that change in a balanced way, but there's no way you can make it "right".
I haven’t seen a rational argument yet. I don’t even own t8 and even I can see he is outmatched when it comes to his key moves being punishable and Paul’s punishment isn’t fantastic when it comes to range. Only thing really going for him is damage...if you can land it.
My only beef against him is deathfist hitbox. I should state that it's not his specific problem. There are some bugged steppable moves that can hit you from the other side or cause a cross-up from 2D fighter. About Paul I think I can get used to cheese stuff with sways and demoman but deathfist is cancer in it's current tech state. I get that it's his signature move, no problem, leave it as a launcher even. But it should be linear and not hit to the sides at all because of the active frames sucking your character into hitbox while you sidestepping or he's clearly off-axis whiffing it but still is able to suck your char into its hitbox.
Because Paul absolutely wrecks at lower levels where people can't punish non-heat death fist or play neutral well or know how to take advantage of his weaknesses like him having stubby lows. High damage characters are always pretty hated at lower levels. However at high levels Paul is pretty honest by Tekken 8 standards. He doesn't have a F you heat smash that gives him plus frames, no fairly quick gap closing plus frame mid, doesn't have much string mix up and his pressure is conditioning based. Once you know the match up you can challenge a lot of his stuff. Paul is an honest character till he hits you then he becomes bs. Even with his buffs they mostly doubled down on his strengths and left his weaknesses
Personally his 50/50 Tilts me. After Heatdash it just turns into a guessing game if you get demo'd or deathfisted. There aren't many 50/50 that make you loose that much hp on either choice. While also his df2 has to be one of the best in the game. Insane range. High crushes jabs and save. That's what i don't like about playing vs paul.
if ur character isnt doing a mist step to execute the best moves, then its easy to play and you should go f urself =) pauls execution is mid at best, this character is the staple of easy mode in tekken. go back to pressing down+3 in smash pls.
@@trecombs1813 I’m new to tekken this my first one I’m just seeing everyone saying he good now and this and that cuz of the patch so I just wanted to know
Paul was not actually considered that good at high levels, far from bottom but he was often put at the bottom half of the tier list. Even with the buffs they didn't actually fix any of his weaknesses, they just double down on his strengths
00:04 65% damage off 3 moves that is +15 fs is just stupid.. but yea let's buff him to cover any weakness. glad I uninstalled. will be back in 2 years when all the dumb stuff is ironed out.
Dude, that’s just Paul, it’s called a death fist for a reason, getting mad at what’s basically a maximum possible damage combo that can only happen in specific circumstances sounds less like you have a problem with the game and more like you are trying avoid admitting your own failures. Git gud stop crying.
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People coping about Paul not needing buffs, did they forget he’s the strongest in the universe?
Fair point bro' 😂
people needs to be thankful that when they eat a deathfist,they only loose 80% of their health and they won't just die on the spot
Lore accurate
@@dat1faclesdudeeating a deathfist and surviving? what kind of BS is that!? buff paul
excuse you?
he's THE STRONGGGGGEST IN THE UNIVERRRRRSSSSE
*right arm sleeve rips*
Now it’s time for Paul’s importance in the story to get buffed too
Even his own character episode did him dirty lmao
Yup, I'm getting deathfisted tonight
pause
Same but im not playing tekken.
No Diddy
🤠📸
Que
Personally I think Paul should get more buffs. Why is my opponent still alive after a Deathfist when they should be turned into a fine mist? Its called ‘Deathfist’ not ‘On- the-brink-of-Deathfist’. Somebody email Harada.
It's called phoenix smasher.
I like the joke though
If u want this move to one shot then it shouldn't be 20 frames more like 40
@@beastant12itachi8 more like i128frames
Think Miguel's one shot is about 2seconds of hahahaha before the punch
@@beastant12itachi8 think Bryan's -12 on hit unlockable (if he still has it in T8 was about 28-35 frames it's only did about 20 dammy and was punishable in hit
This would be amazing if it killed on last round just gib the opponent lmfao
Could you start a "One day with" series please? Start with a character you dont play with normally, and stream play them for a day, and make videos with the footage. Maybe have someone track your wins and losses with each new character you use and then compare them at the end of the series. Just an idea I think you could execute nicely yo!
I like this idea
the paul streak lives on in our hearts... OSU!
There should be a Playlist for it
Paul's deathfist should KO on block. Like if you agree
It should also demote you a color rank each time it hits whether or not you block it
11:11 when in doubt DEMO, DEMO, DEMO, DEMO 😄
Don’t fix what ain’t broke😎
7:32 the world of a difference removing the homing properties of throws can make.
but people still just freeze when they step a heat burst! its like they cant believe it
Arent basic throws still homing? How is it even a nerf really?
Only the top1% can tell the difference before it comes out i feel like
@@JabJabBinks Its more of a nerf to characters without a full throw game, since generic throws have the homing effect so its easier to react to vs a 1+2 throw. Breaking throws for characters with a full throw game is more match up knowledge tbh.
Such a good change, will teach new players to use sidestep more and not play 2D
@@JabJabBinks it's not even that crazy. breaking throws is just something that comes after playing for a long time. it took... 700+ hours but i never practiced
Most Paul players I meet play really solid fundamentals. To people complaining about Pauly while playing Alisa, Dragonuv, Feng and getting beat, Paul players actually learned how to play Tekken and not rely on Tekken 8s button smash buffs. I feel like since Victor got nerfed I see better Victor players learning how to play fundamentals and not spamming, as pre patch Kaz I had a great win streak against Victor now they are actually using their brain I lose matches.
Dragunov is actually way more fun to play against than Paul. Paul highcrushes everything and everything is plus or has extreme pushback.
27:49 someone probably shattered their controller lol
Paul did needed buffs they gave him a lil extra love 😂. But he is still very one dimensional and weak to sidesteps.
6:43 was just brutal!!!
EDIT 18:57 Three deathfist?! in older Tekken’s it just takes one or two and it’s dead
Now it’s time to get Tekken 4 Paul back.
2:20 right?! 😂 The way he slams his heel down you’d think it would activate floor hazards but it doesn’t
11:11 he went goblin mode 💀
I love hearing paul shout OSU at me as he deletes half my healthbar very fun to play agains
They did paul dirty in this game
Redeeming the Paul streak!
7:02 un placer jugar contigo te sigo mucho y haber si algún día podríamos echar unas privadas con amigos que te siguen mucho también un abrazo
Hellsweep 4 should remove grey health. That would give it some much needed utility and reason to use it instead, trading oki for damage but also to "cash out" on previous oki loops of cd4 1.
Which character are you talking about?
His combo game is even crazier than before
I think these buffs are great because I can actually match up with good jin players and actually put up a fight against button mashing reina players.
People are gonna cry but we have to be honest. Reina player mash A LOT. This goes for Blue rank+
Just stated this game and I love this
Can’t pull off an optimal combo to save my life but this man makes me feel like the strongest in the universe
11:20 is the reason why I hate fighting against Paul players
35:38 Special style Jin was nearly back, baby!
28:45 I've never seen someone rehearse a combo in a real match before lmao
I want to see how this Paul is going to do against Supreme. I feel like TMM’s Paul relies to heavily on launches and heavy 1 hit punches from Paul. With better opponent, he might have some real trouble
Eh hes used to playing honest characters like kazuya, he could make it work.
I am better oponent.
@@DookJob how IS a walking 50/50 machine honest? He's hard to play, not honest
@@Gabi24492 thats what im saying, - every single character who can freely setup 50/50 and mixup highs mid and lows on the fly is a high tier character imo... paul has no weaknesses, tmm is just underplaying every single character he ever plays - its consistent... he underplayed reina aswell while playing her, now he's underplaying paul with some of the best 50/50's and highest average damage in the game, what is this clown show?🤡🤡🤡
high average damage simply means u dont have to perform to a high level with the character to be efficient, why would that make him difficult to play? thats just tmm sucking at applying the mixups, how else do you explain that shit? people on his level knows how he is going to play, obviously - because they watch him do it... wtf is he expecting to happen when he's constantly streaming the gameplay? thats like expecting a different result from the same practice and the definition of insanity?🤡🤡
oh and kuma is high tier because nobody understands what he can do.. like what..?💀💀
this whole vid is just df2 the movie
you are the king of stepping. can you make a video about that ? like which side to step against specific characters ?
Peace be upon you. ^w^
That Bryan was really good. Very technical and calculative.
Tmm’s mental state is slowly deteriorating playing ranked all day everyday 😂
I haven't watched the whe video, but holy shit, I'd be screaming my lungs out if what happened in the intro happened to me.
Love watching you play, keep it up bro
Yes TMM after f+1+2 I like doing d1,f2 full charge. The chip is insane
been watching you a since early tekken 7. i think your one of the best brother
The only buff that seems a bit too good is Paul’s f2 now being 13f, and having great range. Strong 13f moves haven’t been common to Paul, but now he has one. It’s spammable and on hit it gives massive advantage.
I'm still in red ranks with Paul. Yet, I can admit he's not op. Certain people just make him look really good. Haorang and Feng are OP. Paul definitely need and I.M.O still need a few more buffs. He's quiet honest actually.
Feng sure, Hwo? As long as you aren't mindlessly button mashing into his plus frames you'll beat most Hwo players in red ranks.
@@WhatLiesInTheDarknes bruh even the pros get hit with the infinite mix ups. Don't give me that.
@@tdogg56132 It takes 5 seconds to google search winrates at high ranks and what characters actually win at tournament...5 seconds brother. Please stop coping and go look at the stats.
U a scrub buddy@@tdogg56132
Should I not be playing Paul? I'm not really good tbh (still in orange ranks), but I picked Paul because he's what I know from my T3 time (last time played), but hearing TMM say he's not good and there is a reason people don't play him in tourney just makes me think its because people just know him. He's legacy and I've heard the term "honest".
Not saying that's the reason why I'm losing etc. I definitely do suck, but should I just drop him as a character if he's just not really a competitive player? Surely there is a better pick right?
I would like to see BTSJIN fighting FT5 with The MainManSWE! How to make that happen? 😊
I love how much he hates Alisa 😂
Does anyone know what the song is during the match with Kazuya?
I think it's mystic forrest from tekken 6
This guy is the king of down playing his main
Been waiting on this!!!
The fact that df2 is safe says alot about this game! Paul is one of the safest characters…low risk god like reward
doesnt launch crouching opponents
Paul brainrot, kazuya brainrot, everyones brainrot, tekken 8 for you
What’s the song when he is fighting the Kazuya?
What's the name of the font on your thumbnail?
Patch 1.5 tier list ?
Does anyone know what song is playing during the 19:00 match?
29:08 timing 😂
He really is the strongest in the universe.
I dont think Paul is buffed enough, his Death fist should just auto win all three rounds on counter hit
Why is the camera som zoomed in in these modern iterations like as it was played on a hand held console? It even cuts the feet of the characters at times? Also, can you turn off all distracting shit on screen effects?
Is it just me or does tekken 2 looks better/cleaner than tekken 8?
What should I do as a Jin player when someone blocks my heat smash because I can’t do the mix up from wave dash because it +3 frames
A scam
Get good
27:51 lmao, 2 deathfists in heat and 70% of remaining health gone....
Yeah and the hwo player did nothing but press buttons 😂
@@darkninja9499 Well that's like 90% of Hwo players. They do not know how or when to stop.
@@HandOfMetal it's like hwoarang is catnip for the braindead
lee player is allergic to acid storm and acid rain and b34. he played way too safe
Yep still cant sides step pauls hammer fist moves or his phoenix smash smh.
How you get that Tekken 6 music 🎵
Music box in tekken 8 settings
TMM please record at a higher bitrate or something I beg 😭😭😭😭
What character denied the win streak?
What controller is he using
How long was TMM's win streak with Paul? Anyone have the link to the stream when he lost?
90, his 91st fight he lost to lili
@@Qu.Z. Painful... Smh thanks!
But honestly tho the way how u all press the buttons your controller should call 911 for physical abuse
Paul is too strong waah waah 😢 - 20 defense score unga bunga mains
Damn, you really know that "proper Lee player" matchup. Is there any chance to see your Lee ranked gameplay?
16:48 does anyone know the song that’s playing in the background ?
Tekken 6 mystical forest
@@nikostylezz3195 thank you so much !
Paul is a good character but takes a lot of brain power to play against people who have the ability to mash all day with no consequences, make it fair and give him a one button so he can mash as well or make hie dwn bk 321 or 323 have a command grab in it , that way the opponent has to respect it and think twice if a command grab is gonna be played or straight combo move , or give him a submission move
More Paul gameplay please. Really enjoyed this one.
Guess i know who im learning next😂
Lol if they revert the buff I wouldn't mind at all, most of the buffs are so steppable, slow or high. Give back his rage art cancel or ub 2 homing ch launch property then maybe he's top tier 😂
A lot of Bryan mains don't realise how strong his taunt heat smash is now.
Awesome
Help me, hwaroang or yoshimitsu who should I main?
@TEXT.TheMainmanSWE0 won what?
Both are going to require a ton of commitment towards learning so I'd recommend trying them both and see which one you enjoy playing the most
More Jin ranked please
cmon tmm what are these drag takes...wdym "drag still no1", no he isnt? he isnt even top5
"exceptional damage" - no he doesnt, nina, kuma, law, jack, claudio all deal more dmg, and pauls dmg is even beyond them rn
"snk4 hits grounded and chips for a ton" - yes it does hit grounded, as it should and it chips for fucking 5 dmg, thats less than a jab on hit
"hatchet hits grounded" - like every other low in the game? like i dunno jin d2?
Right. He isn’t even s tier anymore. Hatchet flings them away destroying oki, has garbage range, is one of the worst lows in the game at -31 but only gets +3?! Kazuya db4 is +3 and only -12 or -13. And hits grounded for better oki and has way better frames on ch. Bryan’s hatchet is drags but ten thousand times better
Almost all Paul moves can be counter reversed, U can just mash them. Bryan and king were extremely broken from olden days
Hi, do you play on a mixbox or an arcadestick?
King session please
Wtf was that last paul v byron set. It was tactical up until that point. Like, we can follow the logic of sound players. Then the last set happens and you guys go super saiyan and play t8 at each other like 5 year olds that clearly know something that the rest of us dont.
Blue rank here. I haven't been winning against any paul ever since the buffs lol
Paul is basically the new Marduk in this game, if your balls were small enough to enjoy getting braindead wins with Marduk in tekken 7 then Paul is the next best thing in tekken 8
youre ass
anyone know the song at 7:00? plzzz
Darude - sandstorm
tekken 6 azazel theme
@@hakanbozca7642 thank you so much. heard it in mixes on the game and couldn’t figure it out for MONTHS. much love man ❤️❤️❤️
@@Hexifying1 no problem mate
TMM Paul > Kazuya
Why is tekken 8 rank point system so ass. I loose against someone 2 ranks up and loose 400 but only gain 300 for a win.
One of the worst pauls I've seen and he still beating people
Fk me, Kazuyas and Paul are my worse matchups yo go against :(
Paul sucks badly in tekken 8 , mash potatoes can become a gourmet salad overnight , his buffs are a joke , he has no combos that lead to a command grab like dragonuv , and he has more highs in neutral y the fuck is that
Why was the damage on death fist increased? Is that what was necessary to make him more consistent? If they couldn't figure out what to do with Alisa, should they just increase chainsaw damage?
Make the chainsaws +96 on block
deathfist dealing insane damage on counter-hit is an identity thing for Paul, it's just "right". I've never played Paul but when they nerfed it back in Tekken 7 it was a lame decision.
Nerfing it would be like making yoshi's suicide blockable: there's many ways you could make that change in a balanced way, but there's no way you can make it "right".
Can someone explain why people think paul is busted? Seriously and genuinely explain why and don't whine
I haven’t seen a rational argument yet. I don’t even own t8 and even I can see he is outmatched when it comes to his key moves being punishable and Paul’s punishment isn’t fantastic when it comes to range.
Only thing really going for him is damage...if you can land it.
@@aaron.biketrials When you say key moves being punishable what moves are you talking about? Like say the command notations.
My only beef against him is deathfist hitbox. I should state that it's not his specific problem. There are some bugged steppable moves that can hit you from the other side or cause a cross-up from 2D fighter. About Paul I think I can get used to cheese stuff with sways and demoman but deathfist is cancer in it's current tech state. I get that it's his signature move, no problem, leave it as a launcher even. But it should be linear and not hit to the sides at all because of the active frames sucking your character into hitbox while you sidestepping or he's clearly off-axis whiffing it but still is able to suck your char into its hitbox.
Because Paul absolutely wrecks at lower levels where people can't punish non-heat death fist or play neutral well or know how to take advantage of his weaknesses like him having stubby lows.
High damage characters are always pretty hated at lower levels. However at high levels Paul is pretty honest by Tekken 8 standards.
He doesn't have a F you heat smash that gives him plus frames, no fairly quick gap closing plus frame mid, doesn't have much string mix up and his pressure is conditioning based. Once you know the match up you can challenge a lot of his stuff.
Paul is an honest character till he hits you then he becomes bs.
Even with his buffs they mostly doubled down on his strengths and left his weaknesses
Personally his 50/50 Tilts me. After Heatdash it just turns into a guessing game if you get demo'd or deathfisted. There aren't many 50/50 that make you loose that much hp on either choice. While also his df2 has to be one of the best in the game. Insane range. High crushes jabs and save. That's what i don't like about playing vs paul.
Paul should be nerfed
if ur character isnt doing a mist step to execute the best moves, then its easy to play and you should go f urself =)
pauls execution is mid at best, this character is the staple of easy mode in tekken.
go back to pressing down+3 in smash pls.
Dude cries about Alisa and takes 70% with 2 deathfists!
Paul need an overall damage nerf
Even arslan the goat says so lol
Do yall think Paul s tier now
Paul isn't even A tier. He is still weak and remains at bottom 10 of Tekken 8
@@morgannmegann I was just asking bro I just wanted to know people thoughts so who you have as the s tiers bro
@@J04Pierrestill weak. They barely made him better
@@trecombs1813 damn fr bro?
@@trecombs1813 I’m new to tekken this my first one I’m just seeing everyone saying he good now and this and that cuz of the patch so I just wanted to know
Paul was already super strong why buff him and make him a god 😂
Except he wasn’t 😂
@@Crimsongz if you know how to use him he was I’ve been using Paul for years
Paul was not actually considered that good at high levels, far from bottom but he was often put at the bottom half of the tier list.
Even with the buffs they didn't actually fix any of his weaknesses, they just double down on his strengths
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00:04 65% damage off 3 moves that is +15 fs is just stupid.. but yea let's buff him to cover any weakness. glad I uninstalled. will be back in 2 years when all the dumb stuff is ironed out.
Yeah you're not blocking
They didn't actually address his weaknesses just doubled down on his strengths
tekken 8 is an insanely good game rn. You should probably git gud I guess
Youre not wrong tekken 8 is terrible
Dude, that’s just Paul, it’s called a death fist for a reason, getting mad at what’s basically a maximum possible damage combo that can only happen in specific circumstances sounds less like you have a problem with the game and more like you are trying avoid admitting your own failures. Git gud stop crying.
Paul damage isn't fair