This isn't just a moment to have good reflections on ethical behavior & professional choices, but a much needed catch of breath for healthy living in the physical as well as psychological sense too. As always, I enjoyed the candid and insightful dialogue of this episode. Good job.
Can’t agree more with what you two said about self reflection gains and the so called “ HK efficiency “ which might not be a necessary virtue outside of HK.
There is no race on earth that attracts more distrust, envy, hatred, vilification, and discrimination as the Jewish Race. Hong Kong people, on the other hand, have always enjoyed warm reception, admiration, and friendship. We cannot compare ourselves with the Great Jewish Race with their long history; profound and sturdy faith; their courage and perseverance; their solidarity; or their remarkable achievements and contribution to the human race. But we could at least count ourselves lucky in not being subjected to such calumny and injustice. We would do well, though, to learn from them. The influx of mainland Chinese with their greed, dishonesty, and vulgarity have led to outraged and disgusted foreigners tarring us with the same brush. It is very important , therefore for established and newly arrived Hong Kongers to refrain from that kind of unwelcome conduct, positively promote our culture and image; participate in civic society; embrace the democratic values of and be loyal to our our new homeland. The irrevocable change that Mr Bao is afraid of is only a replay (in fast forward mode) of what happened in mainland China decades ago. Many say that they could never trust a mainland Chinese because the Communist political and social system have completely distorted their view of humanity. There is no trust, no compassion, no vision, no empathy, and no honesty from the top to the lowest rungs of society. Greed, power, money, status are all they live for. It only took two years for all our basic trust to be destroyed. Now I find myself holding back when talking to Hong Kong friends, fearful of being reported even after seemingly innocuous conversation. The fabric of society and the veneer of civilization is very fragile. Once damaged, it is very difficult to repair. People in the former Soviet bloc would tell you that their psyche and moral compass might take another hundred year to recover. As intimated here, the shocking and rapid deterioration have jolted us into a state of alertness and spur those who still have a chance to defend the core values of Hong Kong into action. It is a very steep learning curve; but Hong Kong people have arrived at this critical juncture not entirely unprepared. The 2019-20 uprising had uncovered qualities in ourselves that we did not know we possess. We have shown the world that little Hong Kong was not afraid to stand up the the most vicious and inhumane dictatorship in history; that we were willing to defend freedom and democracy with our future and our lives. As mentioned, we might be able to see ourselves more clearly in a different place and re-evaluate our strength and weaknesses. KOLs like Professor Shen and Mr Bao are doing a sterling job in keeping us informed with thought-provoking and substantial analysis. The voice of reason is extremely powerful and vital in an age of madness. Without people like them, we might not be able to hold on to our sanity, never mind thinking clearly or taking steps to reaffirm our identity and carve out our future.
Very moving. I broke into tears when reading your piece. What a truthful description of Hongkongers who have gone through the 2019 revolution and who are now facing the deteriorating Hong Kong.
@@行動才能擺脫貧乏 Thanks for your comments. This is an interesting topic for discussion. The Allies, despite knowing the genocide carried out by the Nazis in the camps, had never considered their liberation on the list during the invasion. All their bombing missions had bypassed the camps. In the movie “Saving Private Ryan” directed by Steven Spielberg, the Jewish soldier was killed because he was out of ammunition and the one carrying the ammunition did not have the courage to reach him. I think there is a hidden message from Spielberg, similar to what I had found out from my Jewish friends.
重溫幾次，都好欣賞鮑生見解及做人做事態度，坦白，直率，貼地，不浮誇，不自大。所以佢去英国後
我一直都有follow。剛才重溫感觸更深，更認同鮑生說法，以為沉重感覺已可舒緩一點，但到今日還有一個在加拿大認識30多年的朋友夾硬要我認同佢對香港政治的看法，死纏不休，所以索性以後不相往來算了，唉！如要回復以往的日子根本不可能的，鮑生好好享受你現在清風淡水的寫意日子吧！😂🏝😎
鮑生明白象以齒焚身之境況,趁早異地重新上路, 讚！
很贊同台主說法，离开香港，想嘢會清晰很多。我需然90年移民澳洲，但仍然每年回港探親，心繫香港，很痛心香港近这幾年的动蘯。也為了政見不同與不少朋友磨擦，甚至與五十多年保持聯絡的少年知己也因政見不同而絕交了，但我一些都不後悔，因為我不能為咗这点私心妄顧公義，或不敢發声。我同情在港居住的無知者，因為他們得不到真信息，被宣傳洗腦了。但我蔑視那些己移民國外的藍絲，外國新聞看重事實佈導與言論开放自由，他們卻仍然要將頭鑽入那中共大外宣，甘心被洗腦，獨爱邪党不爱國，可憐及可耻。
多謝鮑Sir率直, 透露自己 “戰爭憂累”觀點。
認同嘉賓幾點：一，鼓勵年輕人到外國探索 －-本人幾十年前已經單獨去外國；二，港人總覺得自己想法是對--沒見過世界當然會思想比較狹窄，世界上廣闊不只港人這一套，亦沒有中國傳統封建儒家思想；三，外國多空間反思－－是比較注重生活文化質素而不是拜金社會。
外國不只是港人逃生之地，去了外國不要整天只想念香港，要向前，融入當地，關注社會時事，如果放不下香港，懷念港式生活，美食，樣樣都跟香港比較只會終生遺憾。英國和台灣我都住過，都有豐富歷史文化好值得發掘欣賞。
非常認同，而且似係將香港當成一個ex一樣，仲要有啲渣嗰種，世界好大，下個國家會更好
想做正常人,去外國即使不是移民,也可以見到西方人生活方式不同,至少有人性,見義勇為,唔係樣樣講錢.重個人主義,係香港難獨立思考
做人更有尊嚴
人生更有價值
我離開香港三十一年，我總覺得八九六四，就決定香港有今天。這是我當年走的原因，希望今天的香港人，留下的就接受，受不了就走。
Thanks and support 👍 🙏 🙌
今時今日，香港昔日情懷，已成歷史，No Turning Back ！
很認同你的看法，那些人不用可惜，我已單獨三十多年的外地生活，現在一直在學習。欣賞清静🧘♂️🧘♂️🧘♂️🌈
聽左光明頂都十零年，睇到依個訪問真係感觸同心酸⋯
鮑先生真是可惜沒有和你共事過❤很欣賞你的才華🇩🇪支持.
以前夜晚一路揸車返屋企一路聽住你地，陶生鮑生同沈教授做光明頂節目，那時既香港真係好令人懷念!
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係！時光不在
認同鮑生所說及感受，人有機會應往外走走，看看世界，不要有了一棵樹而放棄森林，若住在香港不開心，可到你認知的理想國住一回作一比較！
遇到個人平時講野正正常常，有文有路，一講中國到，成日都話中國好，中國偉大，真係道不同不相為謀，遇到呢D人真係無計傾
唉！見到從前的老朋友只能收晒聲, 真係好 Upset！
既然大家見面都無偈傾，所以索性唔見好過見。
多謝2位主持人-- 沈教授同鮑sir 😊
我就係抱住鮑偉聰嘅想法，繼續樂觀生活見證歷史。就算留係香港都唔會悲觀，繼續返工搵錢，鬥長命。
😢😂🎉
鮑心直說，全世界無一處安全，現在這刻還生存，己是幸福了，全球左膠當導，貪念，權力，壓炸，思想和家庭，無一幸免！可來幸福快樂，腦子滿是悲哀，，像你說，回頭己是百年新，半伯已過，只好向前看，一個獨精，現在想得到祥和，樂趣，起碼不是為別人而活，最緊要健康。一離開己四拾年牽掛己離不開腦子，但奈何。❤❤❤❤❤❤
鮑生能自我反省，是我們香港人在海外生活應有的做人態度，不同種族才能和平相處👍我也返過來跟這邊的年輕人學習，巴士落車前走到司機處向他説聲唔該，這天好。
你说起來也真是，在海外，巴士乘客下車時多會跟司機说 Thank you。在香港，部份人士只會跟巴士司機找荐爭吵！😢
真誠貼地嘅交談，肯定受歡迎!
呢集好多反思同要思考位，多謝兩位既坦誠分享
嗯，非常認同19:27 - 20:10 嘅感受，自己身邊嘅多年朋友，都無諗過……唔係嘛，你真係咁諗，自己聽到初時係有爭論，到一次係咁，兩次三次都係咁，只可以打句：「 大家保重喇。」自己仲會去不停諗，到底係乜嘢原因，即使大家都支持民主，原來都可以有好多好多好多嘅唔同。定還是，朋友口中嘅抗爭，同自己認為嘅係好唔一樣。
包括最近好出名嘅蔡子強，一番言論，即刻令我諗起，呢啲咪就係我嘅朋友講嘅同一樣說話……
又或是很多人對一個問題其實認識得很淺薄，平日冇事冇幹嘻哈當然觸不到中心，但板盪時就全面考驗那人對那個問題有多深的認識，多廣的角度和最重要:他心底裡真正奉行(唔係平時口講的)的價值觀和判斷。泳池乾了，有冇著褲，一看，便知。無謂多講。
上面兩位講得好，好認同，不要講跟本唔係同路人，就算係同路人民主思維也可以好大分別，好多人冇蕭生所講既批判性思考，諗野唔夠多角度同冇自我批判，好多時比民粹同私心仇恨帶住走，真係要到最後先知邊個冇著底褲。
走係無可奈何，我也有幸同家人坐上呢班最後列車到蘇格蘭，感謝主!
一年後又再重溫 👍🏻
飽生，你講的真係100%正確，由19年開始周邊啲人出現變化才感覺原來他們是咁，包括兄弟姊妹。
謝謝2位！😃😃
真係十分無奈！
講真, 好多老朋友已經傾唔到表面的說話, 其它不用再說！
講得好：高效率未必是好，得力在乎平靜安穩。
多謝鮑Sir咁真誠同大家分享你既故事,曾經有一位我認為好值得尊敬既長輩,最後佢令我好心寒,儘管唔係同佢老死不相往來,但再同佢相處既時候,已經覺得同佢有好大隔膜,有時人生真係好唏噓
其實年長者囿於固有觀念，也不像新世代可以接觸衆多資訊觀念，有時我們這代人都會自覺不如年青一代；何不換個體諒的角度呢？耶穌說：請寛恕他，因為他們所作的他並不知道😔既然能令你曾經尊敬過，應該不是太差的人吧☺️
AaQ.
倆位多合作啦👍🙏😃
两把好熟悉的聲音.....恍如隔世，不過如今只能向前看......
大家珍重！
真是心酸
我都想喊
同意鮑偉聰的講法, 我在加國生活多年, 有同一想法, 香港人要想清楚我們香港人的“快”是否真的最啱最好😘😘😘
嘗試適應當地 不要用香港與外國生活文化比較
完全感受到鮑偉聰既恐懼 我覺得台海打仗風險真係好高
離開香港、在外打拚，有天能再回香港有人之情義香港社區、才是能出走的人的真義。
This isn't just a moment to have good reflections on ethical behavior & professional choices, but a much needed catch of breath for healthy living in the physical as well as psychological sense too. As always, I enjoyed the candid and insightful dialogue of this episode. Good job.
好多住過外國、有外國國籍嘅香港人都話怕移居後會好悶冇娛樂冇嘢好食冇嘢好玩😪，仲停留喺幾十年前自己留學時期嘅睇法，其實有冇娛樂有冇嘢好玩係睇個人，如果講食其實外國好多唔同 cuisine 都比香港好味而且抵食
如果淨係識講玩講食就由佢留在香港啦,同佢講民主自由都係對牛彈琴
完全體會鮑兄關於人與人關係的感受！ 是很無奈！ 🥺
嘩精彩，兩個勁人走埋一齊，未聽已知非常值得聽。
倆位的真誠分享，發人心省。正是香港人要思考前路，如何好好活著。
。….，，，
是一場舒暢的對談, 使很多人在不同境況中學習自省, 多角度思考而人生的開闊有不一樣的得著。每天也應讓自己內心有平靜的空間放寬心情，愉悅一會兒好讓回復精神面對未來日子呢~
好睇兩位～好互動又說話真
好認同鮑生的感受，經歷過呢2年，好多相識多年的朋友已經返唔到轉頭
無必要啊哇
Upset
全中，真係2019 後才驚覺身邊有些"老朋友"竟然想法/理念如此迴異
不單單是朋友,家人親戚亦有!
因為2019社會運動
而影響到自身利益 收入
和與大陸商業合作火伴
其實我那位朋友早已做了大大機構高高層上哂岸，根本不愁生活，毋須睇利益，所以我更不解。
有關方面永遠不會自省為何有咁多文化精英會離開生於肆長於肆的故鄉。
因為他們覺得去另一國家有自由!有民主。(其實世界所有地方都沒有真正的民主!自由。
因為世人都犯了罪。
兩位才子,希望你哋多D合作
好值得尊敬的兩位光明頂的前主持人！！！
香港人;廣東話!!!講真話;真香港人 !!!支持...加油 !!
鮑生講得很對，两位都係智者
冇錯，道不同不相為謀，好多朋友都已經冇再聯絡
Yes！連舊學生都唔願回應, 真係冇嘢好講！
我們64後移民，主要是看見中國政府如何用低B手法去處理這事件。怎麼想都想不通他們會有高明一些的方法管治香港。這些年來，香港人只是不想去面對這現實，過一日得一日。這不是我希望的生活，所以從來沒有想到回流。
总覺得現世代不同了，世界大同，人類应該彼此分享彼此分担，記得自己祖藉出自那國家便夠了，过份之民族主義實在狹隘，爭強爭勝無意思，世界和平，國民生活安穩，幸福快樂最重要。
多謝分享你的看法.
是的！一切隨緣，擇水而居。
我最期待的嘉賓 🥰🥰
呢個組合太好👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
多謝兩位對環境的變化影響分析及分享· take care
多謝你們
❤❤❤
香港人移民外國，真的學和欣賞別人的生活智慧。生活會快樂🉐️多。
好好睇，我都係黎左英國後，個人性格係真係變左，係社會環境令到你係會改變
怎樣的改變呢？
@@mukkwaiki5863 對名利物質嘅嘢睇輕咗好多，同身邊嘅人冇咁都比較冇咁多競爭，以前會成日想減肥買靚衫但而家完全冇晒啲慾望，可能睇少咗廣告，同埋空間大左時間多咗會尋落嚟追求一啲自己一路想做有冇做嘅嘢例如喺屋企整蛋糕甜品之旅😂🙈
香港巳變成一個是非黑白不分地方，為有良禽擇木 !
You two are my favourite channels that I listen everyday.
Same here !
Same here!
@@chansheungman7669 same here.
The show is quite inspiring. Thanks guys. 👍
如鮑先生所言，希望可以在沉重的社會氣氛中多聽一些輕鬆的話題。
教授問題好獨到👍嘉賓都好好 學到嘢
多謝。
Can’t agree more with what you two said about self reflection gains and the so called “ HK efficiency “ which might not be a necessary virtue outside of HK.
從哩個頻道知道鮑偉聰嘅頻道，知道您安好，有種熟悉感
感覺好似聽緊認識十幾年嘅朋友聊天 現今生活喺唔同嘅地方 鮑生更近在咫尺 兩位好好保重
好舒服的氣氛和分享 👍
說實話，鮑先生未離開香港前的短片分析真的太可觀，至於一些軍事歷史和裝備認識，未能跟上時代步伐。其實，一個人像鮑先生熟度的歷史的人也會被主觀願望蓋過客觀理智分析，鮑先生未可說是懸崖勒馬，趕及做出應該的決定。不讀歷史固然會身陷危險而不知，但即使熟讀歷史但被主觀感覺蓋過的人同樣悲劇收場，被歷史收割比自殺更慘。
This episode warms my heart.
人各有志，感情和關係亦需要斷捨離。
鲍生非常同意你的睇法，好好享受在英國的生活。
英國🇬🇧俾香港人移民是香港人的福氣，機會難得，天佑香港人。
是抗爭者以血和自己安全自由殺出來的結果。感謝香港年輕人
BNO 5+1 係有年輕人既血，汗，淚，甚至生命!
Simon ,Thank you so much interviewing Mr. Bao his analysis is very truth practical and fact ! Hope as speech of dream maker wake up all those dreamers
感谢分享
在海外承轉香港的核心價值觀🙏🙏
過平靜的生活
欣賞飽偉聰👍👍👍
成日聽「光明頂」，終於知道鮑慧聰主持人乜嘢樣！😅💪💪💪加油在外地！
鮑 Sir 有自己嘅 TH-cam, 叫做［鮑偉聰-聰心直說］，可以多多支持。
正確✅
幸勸香港人，特別是年輕的，要做好心理準備，今天的香港是過去十年最艱難的，但是在未來的十年，今天已是最美好的一天，有條件的，有機會的，要早點計劃…。
Comments 內的朋友觀點亦可取，多謝哂
thx Simon. 鮑sir 活得好，但冇左目標感，離開左都唔好斷左根。每日都繼續為香港而活
很認同, 與很多人關係已經變了質...
關於香港人嘅所謂效率：以前去旅行時睇見當地人做嘢雖然慢但有香港人所無嘅細緻同人情味，當時已經問自己，我哋做咁快嚟趕住去邊？其實只不過活喺一架巨型高速絞肉機裏面一粒螺絲釘（仲好自豪）？ 而家喺英國居住，我做嘢已經完全係當地人速度，同同事上級之間關係和諧，同香港完全兩個世界。
响美國做嘢都發覺自己變咗cher，一行去人位就即講公事，但係依度文化興chitchat一輪先，變相cher 人咁好無禮貌😅
鲍sir保重，你同陶生都系小弟的启蒙老师。
好享受兩位高質素的分享
非常有建設性嘅interview
今日聽番 ，各種滋味在😢
多謝俩位先生的论言，给通明灯，多多保重。💪🙏
香港實在太細！
最鐘意聽「光明頂三子」開台演說，期望沈教授多啲揾鮑sir and 陶傑一齊講，再次「多少天下事，共付笑談中」👍👍👍
三子應該「煮酒論英雄，用常識去評論百年難得嘅香港大時代，記錄香港大歷史
笑都是無可奈何的笑。
沈，鲍两位先生，你們是受過高级教育的人。你們當然有主見，但你們會否是生活於狹隘的同温層？？？
你們高談歷史给你們的啟視，你們的歷史觀是否忽略了一個民族的發展苦難經歷？？？
我反而覺得好寧靜好舒服，多菜少肉幾好吖嘛，
兩位：天下何處是吾家，我心安處是吾家，年青人有的是時間，當然可四海為家，去找新一编天地，找一處適合自已生存地方，就算错了亦有時間回頭，但香港年老的一代，可以怎樣，雖不想，亦不願意，但夸何，唯有去重新適應，希望有機在香港能再見兩位？
不上不下的年齡才煩惱
你代表離開了既香港人做見證，活歷史，記住保持健康，同政權逗長命呀
我心安處是吾家，誠哥係我icon.
誠哥比普通人要轉身離開更難
@@leexerxes6775 相信5O左右?
真香港人👍👍👍真說話👍👍👍㊗️福倆位及家人🏠安康幸福美滿吉祥🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
講到人情味與效率，好幾年前地鐵撞死誤入路軌的狗，當時我覺得是狗主的責任干嗎要乘客付出時間來遷就，而家諗起當年既想法都覺得可怕
Well said
兩條友幾夾咀形，講到野，聽得幾舒服。
同才子既話冇講到咁順 XD
good talk!
There is no race on earth that attracts more distrust, envy, hatred, vilification, and discrimination as the Jewish Race. Hong Kong people, on the other hand, have always enjoyed warm reception, admiration, and friendship. We cannot compare ourselves with the Great Jewish Race with their long history; profound and sturdy faith; their courage and perseverance; their solidarity; or their remarkable achievements and contribution to the human race. But we could at least count ourselves lucky in not being subjected to such calumny and injustice. We would do well, though, to learn from them. The influx of mainland Chinese with their greed, dishonesty, and vulgarity have led to outraged and disgusted foreigners tarring us with the same brush. It is very important , therefore for established and newly arrived Hong Kongers to refrain from that kind of unwelcome conduct, positively promote our culture and image; participate in civic society; embrace the democratic values of and be loyal to our our new homeland. The irrevocable change that Mr Bao is afraid of is only a replay (in fast forward mode) of what happened in mainland China decades ago. Many say that they could never trust a mainland Chinese because the Communist political and social system have completely distorted their view of humanity. There is no trust, no compassion, no vision, no empathy, and no honesty from the top to the lowest rungs of society. Greed, power, money, status are all they live for. It only took two years for all our basic trust to be destroyed. Now I find myself holding back when talking to Hong Kong friends, fearful of being reported even after seemingly innocuous conversation. The fabric of society and the veneer of civilization is very fragile. Once damaged, it is very difficult to repair. People in the former Soviet bloc would tell you that their psyche and moral compass might take another hundred year to recover. As intimated here, the shocking and rapid deterioration have jolted us into a state of alertness and spur those who still have a chance to defend the core values of Hong Kong into action. It is a very steep learning curve; but Hong Kong people have arrived at this critical juncture not entirely unprepared. The 2019-20 uprising had uncovered qualities in ourselves that we did not know we possess. We have shown the world that little Hong Kong was not afraid to stand up the the most vicious and inhumane dictatorship in history; that we were willing to defend freedom and democracy with our future and our lives. As mentioned, we might be able to see ourselves more clearly in a different place and re-evaluate our strength and weaknesses. KOLs like Professor Shen and Mr Bao are doing a sterling job in keeping us informed with thought-provoking and substantial analysis. The voice of reason is extremely powerful and vital in an age of madness. Without people like them, we might not be able to hold on to our sanity, never mind thinking clearly or taking steps to reaffirm our identity and carve out our future.
Very well-said!
I especially think the last few sentences are vital and meaningful to continue HKer's passion and perserverance to fight for freedom in HK.
@@eddry I absolutely agree!
Very moving. I broke into tears when reading your piece. What a truthful description of Hongkongers who have gone through the 2019 revolution and who are now facing the deteriorating Hong Kong.
Jews in HK have done many good things in the past. The kadorrie family is a good example.
系利益與自身問題最大關建，理念維有獨善其身！
並坦言作為一個熟讀歷史的文化工作者，覺得事情發展似曾相識，直覺到了不得不離開香港的時候。究竟他眼中的當下歷史進程，可以和哪段人類黑暗時代相比較？
有同感。 人在海外生活，可以靜下來思考，思想變得更清晰，在香港就不能這樣做。
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年輕人真係應該出去睇下外面嘅世界
其實不少猶太人二次大戰時是有覺得被西方國家遺棄的感覺，希望香港人不會像他們的經歷。經過Holocaust 後，猶太人(以色列)知道要企硬靠自己。
其實也不能這樣說，因為當初很多猶太人不相信希特勒會搞屠殺，所以沒有很積極的反抗或是逃離，類似香港以前很多人對一國兩制還有幻想一樣，認為香港是國際都市不會有事之類的
而且西方當時也不是都沒有介入，美國英國當時就有大量的猶太人前去避難，今日香港人的處境我覺得比猶太人好很多，因為至少有不少國家都接受香港移民，甚至幫助香港抗爭者逃離的也有
猶太人還有一條根在以色列有復國的理想，香港人是無根的一族，
@@行動才能擺脫貧乏
Thanks for your comments. This is an interesting topic for discussion. The Allies, despite knowing the genocide carried out by the Nazis in the camps, had never considered their liberation on the list during the invasion. All their bombing missions had bypassed the camps. In the movie “Saving Private Ryan” directed by Steven Spielberg, the Jewish soldier was killed because he was out of ammunition and the one carrying the ammunition did not have the courage to reach him. I think there is a hidden message from Spielberg, similar to what I had found out from my Jewish friends.
@林幹傑 而且當時的空軍攝影技術頂多也只能拍到營舍，很難知道營舍裡面在幹嘛，就算派特務去也很難打探到，而且集中營多數都在森林裡面，樹林茂密空中也很難完全觀察
所以其實猶太人的例子，或許可以給香港人更多希望，因為至少現在有很多國家都收留香港人移民，香港也還是有國際媒體的關注