Wasteland - The Secret History of Fallout
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- Wasteland is a hugely important game from 1988, one of the first ever post-apocalyptic RPGs, and in a very real sense the first Fallout game - so let's take a look at how both franchises came to be...
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Finds a lost child in a dark cave,
Child: "Oh thank you for saving me"
Desert Rangers: "RUN! TAKE COVER!"
"We just have to be the bigger person and walk away."
-Jon, on potentially beating up a sad child
EDIT: Nevermind.
To be fair, he didn't beat Bobby up...
He just out and out murdered him...
HE LITERALLY PULLED A GUN ON ME.
@@ManyATrueNerd Yeah, fair play.
I mean, in the modern day U.S., I can shoot a child in self-defense.
(I will be arrested and held for the entire investigation, and hopefully have video evidence backing up my story. But theoretically, I would be found innocent.)
IT WAS A BB GUN JONATHAN
Rex was okay after all. He got a brain transplant, some fake legs, and a new owner who talks like Elvis.
then a drug addict courier takes him to a town of super mutants and gets him another brain
grognak and the ruby ruins looks different than I recalled...
One thing you should have pointed out, there's a lot of what was the time, innovative versatility, because they used an actual Pen and Paper RPG system as the base and wanted to have it feel the same. So for example, that first door you picked. You didn't have to pick it. If you only had a character with safe cracking, they could also use it to open the door, just not as easily. A strong character could have used strength to break it down. A slightly weaker character could have used a crowbar, or sledgehammer, to bust it open. Explosives such as TNT, Plastic Explosive, or even grenades could be used to blow it open. You could even use the various portable rocket launchers to blast it to smithereens. And finally, the most overpowered stat in the game, Luck, could often be used to luckily stumble on things (though I think that door you couldn't luck open, but I know there are several safes that it will work on because you just guess right on the combination).
Sometimes even high perception would work, as you might, say, find a key under a doormat (I think that's in the game somewhere). Also, the game checks perception if there is anything near you every time you move, but it is not as good as the full 'Use perception' skill. So a 3-4 perception character might notice the cave without needing to look. You also gain exp that isn't displayed for automatic or even used abilities. If Angela Deth picks the lock, she gets a bit of exp for it.
The match is usable down there in the cave, but I forget where, I think it might be right where you came in? It lets you see the dog at a distance, and changes the name of the dog to something else, and makes the fight slightly easier. Note that hydrophobia is a classic sign of rabies, btw. Thus the note.
A few other things: Canteens for each character are absolutely necessary for travel in the heavier desert, otherwise you take damage every step. If you wander around at night there is an actual game effect: You can see the glow of radiation at a distance, thus avoid it. And skills can be improved through use as well as spending skill points, which you earn by raising your intelligence. Walking back and forth in the water will give you a chance to improve your swim skill. There are slippery sand dunes that improve acrobatics. Etc.
The hint about the man older than the wasteland is about the equivalent of Mama Murphy giving a cryptic clue about Kellogg. It won't help until significantly later.
One interesting thing that carries over kind of into Fallout is that the NPC's you hire are not fully under your control. You hire one with a cool gun, they might refuse to hand it to another character, unless they've already been given a better one. They can also do things in combat you would not normally do, against large, potentially dangerous enemies they might fire all the ammo in their weapon when you are trying to carefully whittle it down with 3 shot bursts from everyone as it approaches. Or instead of attacking, they may move on their own. Oh! The best thing about splitting the party members off is they could be split way off, let's say you got 3 rad suits and wanted to cross a radiation zone, you could literally drop two people off in Highpool and take the other three across the map. Though it will swap to the other party in combat and make you Evade them, which is annoying.
This comment needs to be stickied or whatever you can do on TH-cam now. It's really good advice not just for Jon, but new players trying Wasteland for the first time.
This comment is so good it's more of a walkthrough than a comment.
@@flagtheoffense Thank you.
I actually, long long ago, under a different handle, wrote an incredibly comprehensive walkthrough. I actually looked for it a few years ago, but it no longer exists (not surprising, I uploaded it to a few BBS sites but in 1989 had no access to even the big FidoNET board chains).
@@copperhamster well, it's also an ad. When I'm done with plat'ing Vegas, I'm going to go back to a few old style RPG's I never finished, including Torment and Wasteland(s)
@@copperhamster shit, I never did finish Legacy of the Ancients back in the day
Hell Razor, Angela Deth, Snake Vargas and...
Steve Smith.
Then you realize that his initials are SS, which could mean the Nazi variety.
@@WingMaster562 AH YES
SOMEONE HAS TWO NAMES THAT START WITH "S" THEY MUST BE A NAZI.
@@Panzerbunn that's the punchline of my joke, yes.
Ah Jon. Starting a new channel plan then absolutely failing to keep up to your own expectations that are far higher than our own and giving us another just as great video as compensation. Never change!
I am so happy to see this game again. I never have the attention to make it all the way through a replay but I will relish watching Jon do it.
I started watching this channel a few years ago as a way to distract me while dealing with major depression. I've had a hard time of it again recently and stopped watching as I find it hard to concentrate nowadays. This was nice to watch though, so I guess I just wanted to say thanks for still putting out some great content. I've a lot to try and catch up on at some point and I look forward to doing it.
Man hope you're doing better, keep your head up yeah?.
“Perception is really important” oh Jon. You’re stuffed then
Unless he completely accidentally stumbles across something he’s not looking for. Then his perception becomes 25.
He's flippin' ballsed.
:D
But Jon has high luck. It's okay, ma'am. Things are fine.
Now if you like fallout type games try "Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead", it's like the dwarf fortress of fallout type games
Oh man, I'd love to see that.
@@builttoserve5719 It's a great game and would make one hell of a video, but I wouldn't call it intuitive, so Jon might have a hard time figuring it out
It doesn't have a learning curve so much as a 50ft tall learning cliff, but once you drag yourself over it it's a really fun and in-depth game
I literally probably have hundreds of hours playing CDDA with Jon rambling on in the background, watching him actually play it might be a really weird experience
that said, I really want to see Jon set his starting shelter on fire, try to beat a zombie to death with his underwear and die in 10 mins since that's probably the most realistic outcome of a first time CDDA player
@@cis_eraser_420 I can confirm this. I died many, many times before getting a stable run. It helps if you have a saved template and keep mass producing corpses with it. Ah, Harrison Fords 1 through 24, you made 25th's life possible.
"Murdering children... that's evil"
Two minutes earlier after hiring Jackie the juve - "So she's a bit of a front liner, too".
Oh dear... and this is BEFORE he talks to Bobby again...
I'd love to see a Wasteland 2 run, I never played the original but my goodness was Wasteland 2 a huge amount of fun.
I played through Wasteland after hearing that it was the original Fallout, and I wasn't disappointed. It was really fun, but it is a little dated now.
I still recommend it to any Fallout Fan
100% it's not going to be for everybody - but if you enjoyed the old Fallouts, it's worth a look
You even meet the Grim Reaper if your entire party dies. This game's really got some of Fallout's dark humour as well. Love it. XD
The first post-apocalyptic role-playing game came out in 1976 and was called Metamorphosis Alpha. It was tabletop and used dice and a real rule book. I still have my copy bought in 1978.
The over 100 years old man who sent you to kill the bunny master is older than the wasteland.
"And they did. Twice." Hahaha!
My friend convinced me to play D&D, and I have witnessed the great grand-daddy of all PC RPGs. Wasteland is the missing link between fallout and text-based games.
Wasteland 2 is an excellent game. i hope you play that one next. : ]
Wasteland: Beware the man older than the wasteland!
"Someone from pre-war? Well, I have no idea who that could be."
Wasteland, just one town earlier: You meet a guy who's over 100 years old but still looks suspiciously healthy.
RIGHT?!
That's not a perception issue... that's early onset dementia .
Preston: "You mean like one of those pre-war ghouls?"
2:25 "We'll make our own post-apocalyptic RPG! With Blackjack! And Hookers! (In fact, forget the post-apocalyptic RPG!)"
I fucking love it.
Brian Fargo: "With blackjack, and hookers! In fact, forget the blackjack!"
Todd Howard with Fallout 4: "Ah, screw the whole thing!"
Fallout 76
Todd Howard: "you win again gravity!"
every Bethesda game ever "Arr the laws of bethesda physics be a harsh mistress"
So this is like a tabletop RPG, but you play every party member and the DM has limited responses.
That's basically what it is, yeah.
I know this probably isn't a planned series...but more episodes of this would be amazing...I've been recently playing wasteland 2 on my switch and just this 1 episode clarified so many things that the story expects you to know
i really think jon should drop the "i must publish a new piece every night" thing, not that this is bad but i rather would have him working on the essay or getting some REST
I agree, he should take a day off every now and then.
Standard procedure for youtubers ................ "always be making content! obey the algorithm!"
The issue for him (and the glory for us) is that his content is really thoughtful and good...
@@IainShepherd1 He doesn't have to care about the algorithm, to be honest. His Patreon income alone is well above average for a two person household. He could take a month long vacation and barely see a dent in income, maybe non at all. Jon is just really fixated on pleasing his audience, which is a different problem entirely.
TigerXtrm I mean sure you say that but is there any proof that his Patreon income is more than enough? Not saying you're wrong, just want some proof.
@@asdfgyjhvj7881 I obviously don't know Jon and Clair's financial situation or living conditions but 4700 pound a month (2350 pp) is probably a higher than average income in their age group. At the very least it should be enough to live comfortably in the UK. So assuming they don't live in a massive villa and go out to 5-star restaurants every night I'm fairly sure they are doing just fine, and could easily afford to take a break for a month if they so desire (and frankly, they should).
This kinda became a let's play of wasteland
I LOVE IT ALMOST ASMUCH AS TEA
Oh God he’s role playing as a melee character called Steve Smith, just give him a cricket bat and he’ll never miss a shot
As an aussie i almost died of laughter when he named his melee character steve smith
'Steve Smith was killed after tampering with Snake Vargas' balls'
Nice to see the Python references started here too lol
The doctor's too expensive for your blood? Don't tell me you've already forgotten which country this game takes place in.
@RuleofVicus Weird fucking flex for what is for everyone else an obvious joke, but okay. You wanna throw down, let's throw down.
Real cool that you started off by throwing mud on other sources before providing any. Really helps your case when you start out as a conspiracy theorist and move down from there. No clue where you got the idea that the U.K. is basically Mad Max, (I mean Brexit is a mess but come on) and I have absolutely no context for that little tidbit about France. And I'm sure that ending your "rebuttal" with the only phrase more childish than "Checkmate atheists!" would make you great at parties if you were ever invited to one.
The fact of the matter is that among first world countries, US citizens spend more per capita than anywhere else and they get less bang for their buck. We have a lower life expectancy at birth despite spending more than any of the places you mentioned. Corporate healthcare is bad for citizens because the corporation is going to do what is best for the corporation. The poor in this country actively avoid going to the hospital because they know they could be paying for it years down the line. Drug prices have skyrocketed over the past decades, partly because of a trend where a pharmaceutical company will buy up a failing company, completely gut their R&D sector, raise the price by a factor of three, and turn around to their investors and say, "Hey, look how much more money we're making! Clearly that's because we're good at business and not because we're demanding $2000 a month for a drug that certain people need to survive!" for the investors to lap it up and let them keep doing it.
So, any chance of seeing a Wasteland 2 series? I've thought it would be a great fit for Jon since it came out.
I have played this on emulator good game also thank you for explaining this stuff that people don’t know.
It is also available on Steam these days - which is the version I'm playing here, and it seems to work pretty well.
At this point its not retro, its ancient. Retro now is Mario 64 or NFL Blitz, getting a bit...antiquated now are we. You apparently have never played any old games based on text. Like Zork or the likes. Typing commands was confusing since it had a set registered amount of commands. But there is a reason why it didn't last and its not because people didn't get it, it's because graphics and tech updated enough for MS DOS to load the graphics card and play the game at the same time or something like that.
The game has a macro recorder so you can set up some shortcuts. You can make one to create a new character, then pass all his items to someone then delete him. Easy to fill eveyone up with starting guns and ammo to sell and get some good starting cash.
It has been far too long since I've heard Jon screaming "GNOMED!"
...I get that reference
Damn I never expected you to play this Jon, nicely done
Played this with a friend in my dorm room on my Commodore 64 when it originally came out. We would switch off with one of us at the controls and the other reading any paragraphs. It was such an amazing game to play at the time. I’m sure our GPAs suffered a bit the semester from overplaying. We had a similar experience playing the Bard’s Tale games. Thanks Jon for the trip down memory lane!
Yes, Jon, EMBRACE the spirit of Kill Everything! Those were the funniest series on the channel!
The text being in the manual is also a form of copy protection. Copy protection was in a really experimental phase back then. I definitely approve of this more than Lemmings - You'd have to go find a code under a specific picture in the manual. all the numbers were written in glossy green / yellow text to prevent photocopying.
This reminds me very much of playing The Bard's Tale on the Amiga. The interface was very similar. Being a D&D player in my youth games such as The Bard's Tale and the old Forgotten Realms early computer games were the spiritual successor to table top games. Even though the graphics couldn't match our imaginations it was nice to have a computer to do the rolling and keep check on all the maths. It wasn't until much later that the graphics started to become better and the dice rolling become even more 'in the background'. Even though I never played this, I think I would have enjoyed it.
What? He avoided killing Bobby? Was it intentional by the devs? He literally changed the WL timeline!
Also, that Red Ryder appearance (if you shoot the laughing brat) would be nostalgic
UPD. Owh, nevermind
Where is number 2 of M&B warband?
Jon named his character after Steve Smith the Aussie cricketer?
Kristian Aaberg disappointingly, Steve Smith did not come armed with sandpaper this time.
@@wolfsuit_art lol, scrub those baddies.
Many A True Nerd, You're the best! I subscribed because I love your content!
2:25 Perfect analogy using Futurama Memes.
Thank you for being Awesome, John.
The match actually does work if you use it on the first square of the cave. One of those countless little touches I definitely never knew about when playing this as a kid, haha.
You know what's funny? I have only ever seen a pistol magazine called a ''clip'' in old videogames and nowhere else. I don't know how or why this odd tradition started, but here it is, a 1988 game using a term that would last at least until Final Doom in 1996.
From memory the Mauser C/96 used a stripper clip back in the day. Rifles like the Lee-Enfield also used a stripper clip (and by stripper clip we mean that the bullets are held together in a clip outside of the gun and the clip is used as a tool to assist rapid reloading) and the M1 rifle the US used in WW2 a 8 round clip that actually went into the weapon (and was ejected at the end - bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang ping!).
I guess the term 'clip' became 'American English' for what the rest of the world started calling magazines, because clips and magazines are technically different things.
playing wasteland 2 I didnt realize how much came from this. I knew that Angela and the original characters are in or atleast mentioned in the game but high pool and ag center being there makes me want to play this nice. get the full scope of lore.
Jon you should play the long drive on the steam early access for $11.99. It’s a semi post apocalyptic game set in 1973. You have to drive a old car through the waste land and find gas along the way. It’s a fun game plz play it.
EA: You can't make a sequel to your own game
Brian Fargo: I'll just make a new post-apocalyptic RPG... with Black Jack... and hookers!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
So the Hobo seems like a prototype to Mama Murphy... Man they really did pull a lot of stuff for Fallout from Wasteland.
Fun fact: in EVE online, the biggest, baddest ship was released. The first guy to get the ship of death was called Steve.
You know, to project the terror the ship posessed.
Another Apocalypse gamewould be "Burntime" from Maxis :D Damn i bought that for 140 German Marks for Amiga 500
Yes, so excited! This counts as Fallout... I've always said I've been a Fallout fan since before there was a Fallout. 😁
So it turns out early video games were not optimised for viewing as streams. Who knew?
Looking forward to Wasteland 2
Use to have wasteland on dos, such a great game. I feel like wasteland 2 was made for us old school pc gamers.
>fix water purifier
I think I've heard that before somewhere...
I wouldn't really call it a secret. They have been very open about them losing the rights to Wasteland thus having to create Fallout. I'd rather say Obscure.
The survival series in new Vegas was the reason I subscribed. Hope more come
Garuda guard bethsoft got their hooks in MATN. No New Vegas no more
Ouch Iturts Beg your pardon? MATN has a bunch of New Vegas series already and I still highly doubt he’s done with it. It’s one of his favorite games if not his favorite game of all time, even moreso than total war, highly doubt there’ll be no more.
7:13 They even got fixing the water chip from here!
I remember buying this when it came out. I played this for YEARS.
A horrifying fact: I am Related to one of the original creators of EA..... this sicked me when i found out.
the creators had good intentions - it was the capitalists that ruined in the past decade.
EA wasn't a bad company before it went public and got shareholders and a CEO that were just out for profit above all else. It's been all down here since then.
I played this game with my older brother when it first came out. We ditched half the original party and created our own characters, which we named after ourselves.
My brother's name is Steve.
This video delights me to no end.
That's a vintage end card right there
You forgot to give someone Toaster Repair D:
.....Maybe a playthrough of Wasteland 2 for the sunday slot, now? >.>
Jon, did you notice the Fallout 4 pipboy game Grognak and the Ruby Ruins was made to look like Wasteland?
You mean literally every RPG of note from the late 1980s?
Do you think you’ll ever play through Wasteland 2?
The paragraphs were to stop people from pirating the game.
So are we getting a full playthrough of it? It definitely sounds like it would be one hell of a grind of endless deaths but it would be damn interesting if not from the game play but definitely fun to see where everything came from. I know, I'm sorry I know the playthrough comments are a pain, but I'm also curious how many people are interested.
Great content! I dont know if you could add it you videos, but the manual for Fallout 2 had the cannon ending for the characters in Fallout 1.
Also +1 for an Arcanum playthrough Incidently it also had an amazing game manual- better than some DnD supplements.
Fallout 1 cannon- everyone dies lol. Why you meet Dogmeat in the Cafe of Broken dreams in F2
wasteland, used to love that game
Also, Brian Fargo is of course where "The Far Go Traders" get their name from.
Canonically Bobby attacks the rangers in turn kill him.
my brain just exploded like a blood sausage, this might be the oldest game ever on this channel so far
God this game makes me feel old. I remember buying it for and playing it on a Commodore 128 (64 was for newbs! :D ).
Need a fallout tactics run
Sorry but using that hq3x or sai filter on DOS games is just staight up rape and unforgivable.
openglnb and 1920x1200, then downscale that to 1728x1080px for TH-cam when editing the video. Without the use of those atrocious filters.
In what world does Jon live where a single match is infinitely reusable and will light a cave?
Now you're talking my era of stuff. I love it!
Its cool how far you've come, Jon. I first subbed to you because I found your Fallout 3 Kill Everything run hilarious - but nevertheless and I mean this with respect, you were just any other Let's Player among the dozens I am subbed to. But now you are a guy who can make videogame documentaries better than the so-called professionals. Here's to many more to come.
I don't think I need to have played Wasteland to see that someone has defiled the version you're playing by releasing it with some smudgy, gross upscaling filter 🤢🤢
also, I want New Vegas kill everything reloaded. please?
I love you Jon
This is getting a thumbs up and a comment just for the "blackjack and hookers" joke
I'll definitely try this. As much as I love the Fallout series, I've never hear of Wasteland. Really cool. Thanks for the video!
I remember trying to play this many years ago and being completely unable to figure out what was going on, and I never made it out of the summer camp. I think I could give it another go...
Fallout.. if the game was been developed in 3D back in the 90s like Strife (1995 RPG-FPS hybrid game) style, it could have been like 90s STALKER with RPG element before STALKER
So glad you started in wasteland
*Fallout 0*
Games in the 1980's looked so bad. I don't think today's people can handle something like that. The game should be remade as a Fallout 4 mod imo.
They made 4 Fallout games all together. Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel, and...the flop of a game Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel.
1:53 - "So Wasteland ends up getting published by EA instead."
...Yeah, I have a feeling I know where this tale is going.
Where this tale is going??
MICRO TRANSACTIONS?!?
Steve Smith
Amazing name
Best Cricketer in the world right now, easily, like a year out and he comes and absolutely tears England a new one, fuck yeah
Oh wow Angela Deth is in wasteland 3
And 2. And 1. She's literally the original protagonist.
Fallout 76 and possibly 4 has an RPG you can play on the pip boy called Wastelad. Definitely a nod to this game I'm thinking.
Is Steve Smith an American Dad reference or just a coincidence?🤔
Goodness. The new Jon videos are rather engaging.
OMG i Played this so much!!!! What a Wayback!!!
I j'ai playing Wasteland 3 and I just realised this was the Fallout qorld and not a copyright.