I am sure you won't remember me since you reply to so many comments weekly. Close to a year ago I said I was going to get a dual sport and you replied and gave advice. Well, finally I , made the purchase and got a 1986 xl250r. Love it!
@Jack Spratt I have an xr650l now, owned a klr 650 and a honda shadow 1100 in between these four years. I love how light the xr250 was, but it has major problems shutting down when it got hot. Never figured it out and sold the bike for cheap. It definetly wasnt over heating but something else would make it shut down. Cool bike just needed some work
Neckbrace obviously keeps your neck safe... But one thing it seems no one mentions is that it keeps the bottom edge of your helmet from busting your collar bone.
Commenting before I watch the entire thing so if I mention something that's been said don't yell at me. When it comes to gear I think in some cases it pays to pay a pretty penny, especially when it comes to your head and feet. I'm not bragging or anything because I have spent over 2k alone on riding gear and most of it has stood up to a lot of abuse, mainly my helmet and boots. My helmet is a Fox V2 Priori which was $300 at the time and my Fox comp8 for $350 at the time. Those have saved me more pain and anguish than I can imagine and still are in good shape. Buy nice or buy twice is the old saying. What I avoid is outragously priced jersey's and pants. I spent $150 on some thor range pants and lowsided the third time I wore them. I was cooking on gravel and hit a wet puddle and then found slippery rocks in the road which put me down when I was using the rear brake. Bam, $150 ruined. They did save my hide, and are still useable, but they're not completely waterproof now. Just my two cents, going to finish the video now.
While I really love the focus on low cost, I would really hope the next one like this could cover the CE rated gear. Or at least talk about the ratings, so new folks know to look for it. I'm still buying some of these things, though.
Thanks for all the useful info and vids. Just got a Honda crf250l and looking to get into ADV riding and your channel has been a goldmine! You have a new subscriber in me so keep doing you :)
THANK YOU! I bought the Armor Protective Jacket you recommended and it saved me. Finished a technical ride and was cruising a gravel road; hit sand in a turn doing about 30mph and the front end washed out; belly slide for 10 yards through gravel. Ripped my shirt to pieces, but the armor protected my skin and bones. I'm glad I found your channel. I live in Denver and ride an 09 DR650. Hope to see you on the trails...
Thanks for this video, Tyler! I'm a Senior Motorcycle Instructor for the Canada Safety Council. We make sure we stress ATGATT for on-road situations, but people tend to forget about the considerable dangers off-road because it often tends to be at lower speeds than on-road and the lack of asphalt may make traditional "road-rash" less likely. However, as you know, off-road riding has it's own set of unique hazards! Well-done, as usual!
This is good information and is a great way to get started without feeling overwhelmed by the glut of expensive gear on the market. However, as with most products, while you can get something that fulfills the basic function for cheap, that's really not what you are paying for with higher end products. What you get when you pay more includes: comfort, fit, adaptability, usability, better craftsmanship, better looks and most importantly, the ability to wear fewer pieces that work very well together, i.e. integrity. This shows up in products in the form of features like light weight, weather protection (heat, cold, wind rain, sun), waterproofing, odor resistance, microbe resistance, noise reduction, venting, wicking, and it goes on and on. I used to buy cheap stuff and make them work but I no longer do. Now I focus on having minimal gear that is the highest quality I can afford and I save up until I can afford them. Buy nice, or buy twice.
+Cow Rider I agree with this to a large extent, however sometimes with moto gear you'll be buying twice no matter what. I was riding with a new guy in some rocks. He had a little off and just tipped his bike, but smacked his $500 Arai hard and tore up his Klim jacket with a few sharp rocks. He was okay, but for one small crash he was out nearly $1000. Since he's a firm ATGATT guy he hasn't ridden since because he can't afford the only gear he feels will adequately protect him.
Yes I get that it's impractical to buy the best gear if you have the conflicting constraints of frequent damage plus high cost. But I would argue that if he damaged his gear in a single crash, it was the wrong gear to begin with or if he wants to be in high quality gear and comfortable, then he should ride on pavemeant in good weather, etc. But at the end of the day, I get what you are saying. There are so many factors, you have to compromise on something. Unfortunately what I see people doing is compromising on quality just to save money, except when it comes to the bike, people want to buy the most expensive one they can afford. So it really just speaks to the fact that perhaps most people don't really consider gear to be an integral pa of riding and treat it as a second class thing.
I'll have to do a Canadian version of this. We have some pretty extreme weather conditions here. Summers can get to 38 or 40 degrees Celsius and fall and spring riding often dips below freezing. Either I have to adapt or become a snowbird and join you in Utah!!!
sixthisoverdrive If it works in Canadia it should work here in Wisconsin. I agree that we have special circumstances that don't apply to Utah or the like. Need gear that will work when driving into a fire hose at 0°C at 60 MPH with a 30 MPH headwind. And then it warms up later in the day. Do the Canadian version!
nice work everride, i'm always one for the budget gear! as you know i've become a bit of a helmet nut lately, so i must say excellent choice as the AFX helmets also comply with the european standard, a huge plus as it's almost 30 years ahead of DOT... could i add that for around the same money the Fly Trekker DS Helmet also has the dual density liner which is a very big safety feature. the AFX helmets don't feature this until you get to the higher models i think. great vid!!!
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Oh man you know it! Skin tight polyester is usually not durable... but put a Batman symbol on it and BAM! The best armor money can buy! lol :D
The neck brace is a great idea. I've been thrown over my handle bars before and hit the cement helmet first. I am surprised that my neck was fine after that, but I could easily see how my neck could have been snapped without a brace.
Obviously your presentation has a lot of practical and personal experience and that is well appreciated. There is a lot of good advice in what you've said and how to reasonably look at the safe way to enjoy motor sports such as dual sporting. There is all credibility in what you shown....unlike a guy wearing sneakers while doing a dual sport motor cycle comparison ......not credit worthy at all. Am ready to venture back out to the tall and uncut myself. Thanks for your truths .
First off - man you make real art out of what you do and that annotations idea at the beginning? - a masterpiece! (I did watch it all however if I want to come check a particular bit of gear out in the future they will be very useful). Great information and well presented - very helpful, thanks!! Ride safe :)
I got a pair of O'Neal Elements for Christmas this year and I love them. They are indeed very stiff and take a lot of breaking in but they have LOTS of protection and for my kind of riding - street, gravel and dirt road and the occasional field, they're perfect.
Go to Amazon and look up hwk duelsport pants, waterproof and very comfortable with knee and hip pads for only $49.99 uve told us alot of good deals figured I would throw one ur way. Safe rideing...
I just rode 1300 miles on the Eastern portion of the TAT wearing 3/4 steel toe Timberland Pro work boots. I had a fall at about 25mph where my right foot was caught under the bike. The steel toes kept my toes from being broken but the lack of a steel shank in the boot sole allowed my toes to bend together and hyper extend my arch. The soft tissue damage ended the trip for me. I agree that Steel toe work boots are better than nothing... I'm buying full motocross boots as suggested here. Great video...thanks
I daily ride my 1989 XT 600. I have a very small budget for motorcycle gear so I wear lace up work boots, denim jeans and a T shirt with a hoodie (hoodie is weather dependent as I am from Australia), Motorcross gloves (similar to the mechanic gloves showed in this video) and an Rjays Dakar Helmet with a pair of sunglasses. I have crashed wearing this gear both on and off road. On road the gloves and hoodie needed replacing after a crash at about 60kmph however it protected me. Off road I tore a hole in the butt of the jeans so they needed replacing however everything else survived. This gear is within my budget and almost everyone has it in their closet.
Ive used the ARC Corona knee guards since they came out. The only issue i've had has been where the upper part connects to the lower. The screws they use have unthreaded and came apart while riding. A little lock tite will fix that though. All in all an excellent value for the money.
Very helpful to a new KLR owner of 2 days. Seeing a video where you talked about your '97 KLR and what you paid for it, I've been patiently searching for the perfect buy for 6-8 months. Patience paid off with an '08 with 5,600 miles and was able to negotiate down to $2,000. Now I have to get outfitted and your recommendations will go a long way in helping me get all-in at a reasonable price. I'll keep watching and learning. Thanks again from Austin, TX.
Though this video is somewhat aged, and (some) prices may have changed on new equipment, it's still pretty much spot-on. It has great recommendations for those just getting started in dual sport riding. Value shop; look for the "deals", or the bike won't be your most expensive purchase. Thanks for leaving this video up. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.
I got fazer boots at my local atv dealership that were originally $130 on sale for $75 and same for my helmet I got them and they have held up extremely well in my crashes
Hi everide. Just wanted to say love the videos man keep em coming. They are very informative and helpful. I've been out of riding for a few years. But a few videos of yours and I'm ready to be back on two wheels. I'm from Pennsylvania so I am running out of summer. But anyways have a great day.
I love your tips. I’m an adventure rider from the UK but living in Mongolia. I’m also on a very, very tight budget. I’ve trolled eBay and local ads and found some great bargains. RST is a UK brand that makes gear at about 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of fancy brands for similar protection. For example their adventure 2 boot $130, is similar design to Sidi adventure boot for 1/3rd of the retail price. I’ve owned both. I bought my girlfriend the fly racing trekker and I have the Bell mx-9 adventure mips. Both were about $180 on sale. For the clothing we bought Aldi suits they cost about $150 for the jacket and pants or a lot less slightly used.
Aldi, which is everywhere except the USA, sells astoundingly good stuff at way below market prices but it’s CE approved. The whole garment, not just the armour. Americans can probably get it by buying online and/or through a forwarding company. Jackets, pants, gloves, and boots but not much else is what they have. I ordered a whole set of clothes for less than $200 and bought a Bell mx-9 adventure MIPS. My total was about the same as yours. By the way, I love your budget approach. I’m not in a position to spend crazy amounts on gear but want to be safe all the same.
Funny that I have a pair of the Oxtar boots and got them a couple years ago for $60 used. Squeaky dang boots. I also have the ARC shorts and their riding socks. Definite bang for the buck. TMS armored shirt also. Jersey and pants bought at clearance. HJC helmet I bought new. Good stuff man! Nice clean, to the point review.
I started out with a pair of Oneal Element boots. For the money, they aren't bad. The toe box is kind of big so an extended shift lever is a good idea and they are a bit stiff, but still a good value. Especially for a starter boot. I would also add a pair of knee brace socks. For the long rides it will keep your knee guards from chafing the skin on your knees.
As a slightly larger guy needing the xl or more armor I chose the fly barricade, we'll see how it holds up but it looks similar to the Fox Titan and was 126 at a slight discount. Also Imho looking at the clearance mx helmets will be a better value than the Afx. (slower trail riding) My friend and riding buddy has the Afx and without the face shield it's incredibly loud, whereas my one industries mx was reality quiet with goggles. I also paid $90 for it. Regular price I would have picked up the scorpion vx35 or bell mx9.
the only bit of my gear that i bought new were my gearne adv boots. i have cortech mesh pants, tourmaster flex jacket (has mesh inner jacket and canvas outter plus liner!) and my agv exo8 adv helmet. $40 for the pants, $50 for the jacket and $250 for the helmet (new was $400). i figure thats one bit not to skimp on and the fit was perfect for me after some swapping of pads. i'm strongly leaning towards the armor shirt. i like the idea of it. my pants include hip/thigh and knee pads. if i get to do more than slab, then the knee guards are a good idea. come to think of it, i at least have some old skateboard knee pads i could put on. better than nothing.... my gloves i got "for free" in a motorcycle deal several years ago, though i did spend about $25 for a clearance pair of alpinestar winter gloves. Great vid. Great suggestions as well.
This is the perfect video both for someone looking to get into dual-sport riding and for someone who might be looking for extra gear to loan to friends. Thank you for putting this together. Well done.
***** Thanks Mark! I hope it helps a few more people when spring rolls around. It's not getting a ton of traction now but I think it might get views in the long run :)
love the look of those knee guards! the knee pads in my pants are inadequate, and my knees are all bruised! shorts and skirt season is upon us....and i look like i have been beaten. so I will look into the ARC corona knee guards. Thanks for the video
Nice video. I bought a lot of my gear on Ebay too. The armour works great in hot environs. Riding gear have saved my skin a few times and especially important when riding in foreign undeveloped countries.
A huge thanks to kaianine for the awesome website at everide.org, and a great big thanks to NessedUpProductions and minitstop for the excellent riding footage!
Hey man, thanks for the video. Seriously, I have been scouring the endless gear pages for riding gear. For the most part everything you showcased is damn near if not spot on what I found myself. Some of us cant afford the "Good stuff" so thank you good sir for taking out the monotony of what I had to do so others can have a base point for the gear that they may be seeking. Edited: I was typing while I was listening then I heard you talking about boots. I dont disagree with you about trying to save a few on gear but boots are one of those things I cant stress enough. I would rather spend an entire paychecks worth on a quality pair of motocross boots then settle for lesser or used ones. Just me though, I can get stubborn like that, so its not going to hurt anyone's wallet but mine.
This is one of the reasons that I follow you and people like Ride AMAP , some of us can't afford $20,000 motorcycles and have thousands of dollars of ATGATT and accessories. That being said, I have found that sometimes a healthy investment is needed to solve certain problems. I followed your suggestion a long time ago about the TMS armor [weird that mine doesn't look like yours even though it is the same part number] and my next helmet will certainly be AFX but I have found that adventures and commuting where the clime is colder and has more intense rain I WILL spend more for the guarantee of waterproof protection without a liner. When it comes to jacket and pants up here [Wisconsin] one of the best investments that I have made is the Klim Overland pants. Not meant to be overpants but it works just fine as such. More money but can be worn from 0°F on up and in driving rain with no issues and will last more years than most other pants. My next upgrade will prolly be to improve on the First Gear Kilimanjaro jacket which I would like to have the same performance as the Klim pants. Really good after years of wearing but lost it's waterproof-ness somewhere along the line even though I treat this stuff with Nikwax. I guess that I am saying that I take all of your suggestions to heart but in order to expand to year-round riding in this environment I need to add extra worthy investment in warm waterproof jacket and pants and, as I have been experimenting with lately, heated gloves and jacket liner. When I am in Utah I will otherwise be fully in agreement with with everything that you have recommended here. Well done! Your suggestions about the AFX helmet, TMS armor, Decade gloves and MX boots will save me big dollars.
Ride AMAP and kstoo Oh man the cold weather climates... yeah you've gotta talk to navythomas8 and Dr. Dual Sport for that. Those guys know their stuff!
after watching this I need to dig out my old a star boots from riding my kx in high school. I've been using my Harleys open face helmet on the wr and I know it's an accident waiting to happen so a ds helmet is in my future. thanks Tyler.
I also use the body armored shirt and it saved my ass a lot, i will never use just a chest protect-er, saw some bad crashes with that. The Leatt dual axis knee guards is very good.
I heard you mention stell toed boots at the end of this. I thought those were frowned upon in MC boots? I think the reason is the steel bending and cutting off toes. Anyway, composite toe boots are widely available and also don't get so cold when the temps drop. Keep up the great work.
Great info bro! I really need to get some cold weather gear, so will look at that jacket and set of gloves you rock like Rockstar! My cold weather gear currently is a hoody and..... yeah that's it, lol
NessedUpProductions rofl! Man cold weather gear is such a toss-up for me. Getting sweaty can be a killer out here. I wear a big jacket like that, get sweaty, and then get way cold if the sun goes down. Just ask MrDuhfactor about our recent ride! It was icy nips!
Craigslist almost brand new Alpinestar tech 3 boots talked down to 40 bucks - traded a front wheel of a road bicycle for 661 pressure suit - gloves 3 pairs at Home Depot for 10 dollars, Big Five has street Hockey under the shorts padding for cheap- new Bell adventure 9 helmet came with my Honda xr400 that I traded some weapons for.. The deals are out there !! Shop in winter!
Great video, been looking for a new jacket, thanks for the info. I paid $299.00 for my cruiser works boots and they have lasted me over 10 years now and I had the soles replaced twice. Sometime it pays to shell out the big bucks. Keep up the fantastic work and thanks for sharing my friend!
lonestarrider Good call on the boots! Yeah when I snagged mine they were like-new. I've beat the snot out of them... they definitely look the part :) I should probably get them resoled soon!
Yea my buddy ordered the body armor in a triple large which he is normally a xl. He got it in and it was way to small he ended up giving it to me and it fits me just right. I normally wear a medium to large. I think they just made the same size armor but just retagged the different sizes. But just went to the good old goodwill here and found some Alpinestars tech 3 boots almost new for $7(i instantly thought of this video). Also found a new nelson-rigg rain suit for $3. And a riding jersey for about $3. And new riding pants for about $2. And Just the other day went riding and found a new helmet out in the middle of nowhere for free. Looked like someone was cleaning out there garage and just dumped it and sat the helmet right on top for someone to pick up. Didn't look like it had been sitting there for more than a day. Lol. But I'm always up for a deal and hate paying full price for anything, plus my wallet can't afford full price.
booshwaa2 YEEEAH! I love thrift stores! I snagged some 661 armor for $15 the other day, brand new with the tags! Weirdly, though, I actually prefer the TMS.
Excellent product advice and reviews here,Sir. Also i like that you put each item in its' own findable section for ease of future reference. Tho that's no real surprise from the hardest working man on youtube. ...Still loving them funky moves bro!! :D
Speaking from experience here, I now ride and walk with 1 native lower limb resulting from a motorcycle vs car accident. I wish I would have had on motocross boots and leg protection. The more geared up you are the better off you are, think of it like this, it takes maybe a minute or 2 to properly outfit yourself, just do it, if something happens you will wish you had geared up. Have this stuff squared away. And it doesn't matter if it's just a trip down the street to the grocery store, that's where my accident happened, never thought it would happen to me, learn from those of us who have been hurt, gear up and have a good ride!
Amputation Station That is excellent advice for sure! Honestly on that Moab crash... I might have been in a similar situation without the MX boot. A lot of people on the forums will balk at the idea of wearing an MX boot just for a trip to the store, but I'm totally happy being geared up. Thanks for the comment, sir!
Its interesting how when you are seriously injured in an accident you really begin to pay attention to the news stories and to dumb things people do when on a motorcycle. I have had to take a step back because i've stopped a couple people wearing no helmet, no shirt and sandals and shown them my leg. Its probably a little overboard on my part but given my experience its something I'm passionate about. The thing with a motorcycle crash that is often problematic and often devastating is that no matter what you are going to be ejected from the vehicle. There is a relationship between ejection and mortality or serious injury in car accidents. When flesh and bone hit something like concrete, metal, aluminum, rock, or hard wood, the flesh and bone tend to suffer a grave loss. With a motorcycle, its a given every time, you will be ejected like it or not. So the gear, for me, is a no brainer, I just wish I would have realized it on my little trip to the grocery store. I hope other people pay attention to your video, its excellent and the content can save someones life. Good work! Dude I can't wait to go do some single track with you!
Amputation Station Man that is a sad story... seriously I'd love to interview you sometime soon... if you're up for a trip to St. George you could hang at my place and I've got a bike to loan. Would you be up for a dual vlog? More people could definitely stand to hear your story and focus on a bit more safety! It's the grocery runs that seem to get most people.
Great video as usual bud. I bit it pretty good last March while wearing standard knee protection and my mobility will never be the same with the damage my knee took. It was a freak accident, just looped it out of nowhere (was pretty tired) and my guess is my toe hit first and I was going fast enough to just twist the crap out of everything inside my knee, it actually severed the tendons all the way around as well as some other damage. Since then I splurged on some nice knee braces by Asterisk that are suppose to move the rotation up to the hip socket (by tethering to your boot) in such a situation since it is made to rotate unlike the knee. I haven't had to test if it works or not yet, and hope I never do. I think you are spot on when saying to invest a little extra in protection for that area. I wonder how common knee twisting injuries are. I'll tell you, it's a real drag and that sucker is probably gonna be pretty frail for some time. At least I was wearing the camera ;P
weasy's TH-cam Ah man that sounds so painful! I have heard that twisting injuries are fairly common, more in MX than with dual sport and adv riding... any time we put our leg out or down is a potential injury. I'm sad to hear about your leg but glad you found a potential solution. Get well fast!
Neil's in... Good deal man! As for long-range armor stuff... this is the stuff I wore for my 5000 mile adventure, and it was pretty comfortable... even the boots! They're super squeeky, though... you'll hear those soon enough :)
K. Swaringen Yep... I wore this stuff over 5000 miles (Even the mx boots and knee guards) and never had comfort issues... I say if it's comfy and keeps you a little safer, it's not a bad thing :)
+Outdoorsnomad 03 Unfortunately they got discontinued... I'm trying to talk to the guys in charge to see if they can bring them back, but it's looking grim.
When I ride I always wear a helmet, goggles, Fly flex II knee/shin gaurds and fly flex II elbow guards sometimes weather or not I fee like it ill wear my fly roost guard (does help prevent impact) and fly maverik F4 boots and maybe ill wear my Msr axxis jersey and Msr axxis pants when i wear all this gear together it works amazing and does not prevent my movement at all and at the same time it greatly keeps me safe from almost all impacts I face and i ride on some pretty hard terrain with most of the time almost no give without the helmet and boots this stuff cost me 240 brand new off some retail clothes website as for the helmet I have a HJC cl-x4 that I got in like 2006 or somthing brand new for 120 and it has still is standing up to me perfectly to this day.. only one down side... this helmet offers little air flow and is really big and heavy, but has saved me tons of times and barely has a scratch... as for my boots they are really sturdy but are not easy to tighten without ruining the buckles unless you have massive perfectly toned calves but they do offer tons of protection but when I feel like being able to shift easily ill just wear some shorty boots that help some with the ankles...
I was just looking for some knee/shin guards, and went back to this video for your review, but when I went looking for the ones you have in the vid, amazon doesn't have them anymore. Just thought I would let you know.
Hobbz-Garage I know it's a shame, right? I love them and they're still going strong. I'll have to find another inexpensive alternative. I wish RMATVMC would get more in stock!
I bought some O'Neal boots and they are nice but I have a hard time shifting up. I actually haven't ridden with them because of this. When I sit on the bike the left boot is too tall to comfortably get low enough to get under the shift lever. Is that normal?
+martinrps13 Unfortunately that is normal :\ Any inexpensive MX boot is going to be stiff for quite a while, and some retain their stiffness even after a good break-in. It's almost a matter of just getting used to them. I ride in stiff boots so often that riding in anything else now feels weird. I broke my boots in while riding on easy trails and street stuff, then got used to them on the more technical trails. Rear brake pressure was tough to get right with such stiff boots, but it has paid off a lot as these boots saved my legs twice on a ride just two days ago :) I hope that helps!
+martinrps13 You will need to rotate your gear shift leaver upwards so that your boot can fit underneath. It means you have to lift your foot up to shift down but you will get used to it.
...for this same reason, I have taken to riding with some nice AXO street commuter style boot that are waterproof, allowing me to keep the shifter on my heavily modified XR650L in a more natural position for mixed Dual Sport riding. Having said this, there are times when I know I'm going to be in the severe rough way more then street and so wear MX boots and with these I have to reposition the sifter to allow both for the boots and for standing at speed...
Check out the Fly Racing Maverick Motocross boots. Only 79.99 on revzilla, I absolutely love them. Super sturdy and great protection for a great price.
First of all, nice job on the video. Thanks for your efforts! It appears the knee protection is no longer available... Has anyone found a similar alternative?
Hey eveRide. How do you keep warm? At near freezing. I was wondering the armor will make it difficult to add many layers and the rain jacket to cut the wind. I am looking a new upper body setup and an exoskeleton with my Tourmaster Sentinel Rain Jacket will be fantastic, but recent near freezing temps in FL left me wondering how to add layers and still be able to zip up the rain jacket.
Piston Slap I know, HUGE bummer! They're sold out everywhere, too. Those things really are great, and I'm sure they made a ton of money on them because people bought them like hotcakes. Hopefully they'll get them back soon!
eveRide ADV Piston Slap Seems like it's a similar case with the TMS jacket, though I can find a number of other brands that look exactly the same. I'm thinking it's all coming from the same supplier and just rebranded?
Warren Fletch I thought that might be the case, but the reviews show that some of the clones of the clones are abysmal. For larger sizes, even the TMS brand was terrible. For size L and XL it worked great, though, but bigger guys couldn't get it to work. I actually bought the TMS knee guards and they aren't worth the money. I hope RMATVMC gets the ARC guards back in stock. Those are by far the best value for money for knee guards that I have found so far.
eveRide ADV Do you have any other suggestions for a cheap but decent armored jacket? I'm thinking of getting one instead of a vented jacket for those super hot days. I'll have to keep checking back for those ARC knee guards though, they definitely seem better than anything else in that price range for sure!
Warren Fletch I wish I had some really good advice, but I've only ever tried the Fox Titan, the TMS Clone, and recently got a 661 Jacket for $15 at the local thrift store. I actually like the TMS armor better (but don't tell them that!) If you're a size m or l, I would go for the TMS (just get it in a size larger). Bigger guys (XL and above) don't like the TMS. Count on the shoulder zippers to break when you breathe on them, but otherwise it's a solid bit of protection, especially for the moolah :)
Good choice of equipment at reasonable prices! I would repeat what you said about the TMS body armor. If you have a trim physique up to size L it is great. If you are any larger such as me don't try it because it will not fit you.
Hey everide, how do you deal with atgatt in the desert? I live in a SoCal high desert, and it feels like I'm riding with a hair dryer mounted to my bike pointed at me. I find it really difficult to convince myself sometimes that the heat is worth enduring.
Sean Noonan Man you've got a good point. As the weather hits the high 90s and 100s almost every day now (in June) it's getting harder to get out and ride without something to cool me down. I've been a huge fan of the "Ergodyne" cooling vest and those $6 bandanna water things from Wal-Mart. The cooling vests really work, though... and save a ton of water from evaporating as sweat for an hour or so. Check it out at amzn.to/1BcmJ1Y
Great reviews man! You are the king of DCAM that is for sure. So I have the fox titan knee pads and they don't fit well at all. When I go down on my knees they feel like they are trying to rip my knee cap off. This has kept me from ever waring them while riding. Do you think the ARC ones would be better for a guy my size? It has to be comfortable or I just won't ware it.
ColoradoDualSport man I'd give them a shot! Maybe when you're out here you can try mine? They're kindof a "one size" but they do feel quite big on me... big enough to double cross the straps at the back and feel a lot of room in the knee cup. I gotta say, though... having that articulation and protection above the knee has been REALLY nice!
I've gotta say, I'm happy with my coat and pants. But you've got me sold on those knee guards and armor shirt. I'm still not a fan of used shoes though, I'll just have to stuck if up and drop some cash on them. Untill then, the old boots I used to have to wear every day will have to work. Still, I'm thinking a helmet without the visor next time. Most of my riding is on the road... im not sure yet. I've got the MSR Expedition now, looks amazingly similar to the FX-39 and Fly you mentiomed. It is a bit loud on the highway and lets in a lot of wind and noise. I hope the chin curtain I picked up helps with some of that (the one for the AFX fits my helmet). One other thing, if I take the visor off, the screws are too long and the shield is lose on mine. If that not an issue on the AFX?
FRAG-AFE That hasn't happened with the AFX in my experience. You're right, though... I think a lot of guys get the DS helmets for the "look" and really would never need the peak. In all honesty it's just a big sail on the highway! :D There are times while riding into the sun that it has helped, and their original purpose is actually to also shield from roost!
Tyler does the tms armor cover your elbows? I bought a similar model(same model but no tms logo on it) and the elbow protectors doesn't seen to stay where they should.
I am 11 and I bought gloves for 100 bucks but aren't waterproof but the up sides are the knuckles are carbon fibre with thick plastic over and the finger tips are able to use a phone. Do you guys think I spend to much but the gloves are monster energy gloves so it is a big brand and I think that it will have good protection
Tankerman Thanks again Tankerman! I hope this video helps some of the more budget-conscious out there find some decent gear and get a bit of coverage :)
The Rider Ah man those were some old school harbor freight tool bags. They worked pretty well until one of them got sucked into the rear wheel. Haha that wasn't fun picking that out of there! :D
Hello Everide. Just wanted to know some personal information about you :DD... Kidding yea. I am on the way to buy like your TMS body armor, but again I am confused by the sizes. Sooo personal question: How tall are you and what is your weight, and this body armor of yours is in XL size? Thanks
Hey ever ride great reviews on everything Iv already carted a lot of these items for the next season ride. I had a question about the gloves I found them cheapest in Amazon but they only come in 2 sizes medium/large or large/ extra large. Would you say a loose glove is better the snug one or vice versa?
Any ideas on padded riding shorts for us, ahem, larger folks? The ARC padded shorts only go up to 36" waist, which I haven't been able to squeeze into since high-school.
+B Morris I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but an amazon or ebay search for riding pants usually comes up with some good options. I recently got some on a DCAM deal for $7 and they're amazing!
I am sure you won't remember me since you reply to so many comments weekly. Close to a year ago I said I was going to get a dual sport and you replied and gave advice. Well, finally I , made the purchase and got a 1986 xl250r. Love it!
FerreneMachine how you like it so far?
Its been 3 year. How's it going???
@Jack Spratt I have an xr650l now, owned a klr 650 and a honda shadow 1100 in between these four years. I love how light the xr250 was, but it has major problems shutting down when it got hot. Never figured it out and sold the bike for cheap. It definetly wasnt over heating but something else would make it shut down. Cool bike just needed some work
Neckbrace obviously keeps your neck safe... But one thing it seems no one mentions is that it keeps the bottom edge of your helmet from busting your collar bone.
Pretty sure there are reports out there that say those neck pillows are useless though. They are not a brace.
Some helmets are shaped so they don't do that, but those are few, far between, and usually expensive
Commenting before I watch the entire thing so if I mention something that's been said don't yell at me.
When it comes to gear I think in some cases it pays to pay a pretty penny, especially when it comes to your head and feet. I'm not bragging or anything because I have spent over 2k alone on riding gear and most of it has stood up to a lot of abuse, mainly my helmet and boots. My helmet is a Fox V2 Priori which was $300 at the time and my Fox comp8 for $350 at the time. Those have saved me more pain and anguish than I can imagine and still are in good shape. Buy nice or buy twice is the old saying.
What I avoid is outragously priced jersey's and pants. I spent $150 on some thor range pants and lowsided the third time I wore them. I was cooking on gravel and hit a wet puddle and then found slippery rocks in the road which put me down when I was using the rear brake. Bam, $150 ruined. They did save my hide, and are still useable, but they're not completely waterproof now.
Just my two cents, going to finish the video now.
5 yrs old and still the best vid I’ve seen on budget gear that’s not cheap and still gets the job done. Thanks man!! Subscribed!
While I really love the focus on low cost, I would really hope the next one like this could cover the CE rated gear. Or at least talk about the ratings, so new folks know to look for it. I'm still buying some of these things, though.
Of all the motorcycle merchandise videos I've watched this guy seems to be the most honest. Respect that
A 2019 update would be great! Thanks!
Thanks for all the useful info and vids. Just got a Honda crf250l and looking to get into ADV riding and your channel has been a goldmine! You have a new subscriber in me so keep doing you :)
Div Dev Great to hear! You're gonna love dual sporting!
THANK YOU! I bought the Armor Protective Jacket you recommended and it saved me. Finished a technical ride and was cruising a gravel road; hit sand in a turn doing about 30mph and the front end washed out; belly slide for 10 yards through gravel. Ripped my shirt to pieces, but the armor protected my skin and bones. I'm glad I found your channel. I live in Denver and ride an 09 DR650. Hope to see you on the trails...
Thanks for this video, Tyler! I'm a Senior Motorcycle Instructor for the Canada Safety Council. We make sure we stress ATGATT for on-road situations, but people tend to forget about the considerable dangers off-road because it often tends to be at lower speeds than on-road and the lack of asphalt may make traditional "road-rash" less likely. However, as you know, off-road riding has it's own set of unique hazards! Well-done, as usual!
This is good information and is a great way to get started without feeling overwhelmed by the glut of expensive gear on the market. However, as with most products, while you can get something that fulfills the basic function for cheap, that's really not what you are paying for with higher end products. What you get when you pay more includes: comfort, fit, adaptability, usability, better craftsmanship, better looks and most importantly, the ability to wear fewer pieces that work very well together, i.e. integrity. This shows up in products in the form of features like light weight, weather protection (heat, cold, wind rain, sun), waterproofing, odor resistance, microbe resistance, noise reduction, venting, wicking, and it goes on and on. I used to buy cheap stuff and make them work but I no longer do. Now I focus on having minimal gear that is the highest quality I can afford and I save up until I can afford them. Buy nice, or buy twice.
+Cow Rider I agree with this to a large extent, however sometimes with moto gear you'll be buying twice no matter what. I was riding with a new guy in some rocks. He had a little off and just tipped his bike, but smacked his $500 Arai hard and tore up his Klim jacket with a few sharp rocks. He was okay, but for one small crash he was out nearly $1000. Since he's a firm ATGATT guy he hasn't ridden since because he can't afford the only gear he feels will adequately protect him.
Yes I get that it's impractical to buy the best gear if you have the conflicting constraints of frequent damage plus high cost. But I would argue that if he damaged his gear in a single crash, it was the wrong gear to begin with or if he wants to be in high quality gear and comfortable, then he should ride on pavemeant in good weather, etc. But at the end of the day, I get what you are saying. There are so many factors, you have to compromise on something. Unfortunately what I see people doing is compromising on quality just to save money, except when it comes to the bike, people want to buy the most expensive one they can afford. So it really just speaks to the fact that perhaps most people don't really consider gear to be an integral pa of riding and treat it as a second class thing.
I'll have to do a Canadian version of this. We have some pretty extreme weather conditions here. Summers can get to 38 or 40 degrees Celsius and fall and spring riding often dips below freezing. Either I have to adapt or become a snowbird and join you in Utah!!!
sixthisoverdrive If it works in Canadia it should work here in Wisconsin. I agree that we have special circumstances that don't apply to Utah or the like. Need gear that will work when driving into a fire hose at 0°C at 60 MPH with a 30 MPH headwind. And then it warms up later in the day.
Do the Canadian version!
kstoo I'll get right on that!!!
sixthisoverdrive If you think it doesn’t get friggin cold in Utah in the winter, Ive got a bridge for sale you might be interested in (LOL).
I don't ride or anything but I was searching for armor and I just wanna say, very well put together Chanel and video.
Lovin' those knee guards Homie!! Excellent reviews dude!!
MrDuhfactor Thanks kind sir! Wait... were you trying the ARC knee guards?
No, I was just liking those you're showing, thinking I should get some :)
nice work everride, i'm always one for the budget gear! as you know i've become a bit of a helmet nut lately, so i must say excellent choice as the AFX helmets also comply with the european standard, a huge plus as it's almost 30 years ahead of DOT... could i add that for around the same money the Fly Trekker DS Helmet also has the dual density liner which is a very big safety feature. the AFX helmets don't feature this until you get to the higher models i think. great vid!!!
i forgot to mention, the batman suit from your intro vid never featured... surely this would be cheap but effective ATGATT?
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Oh man you know it! Skin tight polyester is usually not durable... but put a Batman symbol on it and BAM! The best armor money can buy! lol :D
The neck brace is a great idea. I've been thrown over my handle bars before and hit the cement helmet first. I am surprised that my neck was fine after that, but I could easily see how my neck could have been snapped without a brace.
EverRide videos are the best I've seen about riding......thanks for your time and effort putting the videos together!
Obviously your presentation has a lot of practical and personal experience and that is well appreciated. There is a lot of good advice in what you've said and how to reasonably look at the safe way to enjoy motor sports such as dual sporting. There is all credibility in what you shown....unlike a guy wearing sneakers while doing a dual sport motor cycle comparison ......not credit worthy at all.
Am ready to venture back out to the tall and uncut myself. Thanks for your truths .
First off - man you make real art out of what you do and that annotations idea at the beginning? - a masterpiece! (I did watch it all however if I want to come check a particular bit of gear out in the future they will be very useful).
Great information and well presented - very helpful, thanks!!
Ride safe :)
***** Thanks so much! Hopefully it can really help some people out when looking for decent budget gear!
I got a pair of O'Neal Elements for Christmas this year and I love them. They are indeed very stiff and take a lot of breaking in but they have LOTS of protection and for my kind of riding - street, gravel and dirt road and the occasional field, they're perfect.
Brook Yoder Great to hear! One of these days I might have to pick some up and test them for myself... for now all I've heard is good reviews for them.
Go to Amazon and look up hwk duelsport pants, waterproof and very comfortable with knee and hip pads for only $49.99 uve told us alot of good deals figured I would throw one ur way. Safe rideing...
I just rode 1300 miles on the Eastern portion of the TAT wearing 3/4 steel toe Timberland Pro work boots. I had a fall at about 25mph where my right foot was caught under the bike. The steel toes kept my toes from being broken but the lack of a steel shank in the boot sole allowed my toes to bend together and hyper extend my arch. The soft tissue damage ended the trip for me. I agree that Steel toe work boots are better than nothing... I'm buying full motocross boots as suggested here. Great video...thanks
+Savage Sully Ugh that sounds so painful :( Glad it wasn't worse, though! You'll have to conquer the TAT another time!
I daily ride my 1989 XT 600. I have a very small budget for motorcycle gear so I wear lace up work boots, denim jeans and a T shirt with a hoodie (hoodie is weather dependent as I am from Australia), Motorcross gloves (similar to the mechanic gloves showed in this video) and an Rjays Dakar Helmet with a pair of sunglasses. I have crashed wearing this gear both on and off road. On road the gloves and hoodie needed replacing after a crash at about 60kmph however it protected me. Off road I tore a hole in the butt of the jeans so they needed replacing however everything else survived. This gear is within my budget and almost everyone has it in their closet.
Ive used the ARC Corona knee guards since they came out. The only issue i've had has been where the upper part connects to the lower. The screws they use have unthreaded and came apart while riding. A little lock tite will fix that though. All in all an excellent value for the money.
Very helpful to a new KLR owner of 2 days. Seeing a video where you talked about your '97 KLR and what you paid for it, I've been patiently searching for the perfect buy for 6-8 months. Patience paid off with an '08 with 5,600 miles and was able to negotiate down to $2,000. Now I have to get outfitted and your recommendations will go a long way in helping me get all-in at a reasonable price. I'll keep watching and learning. Thanks again from Austin, TX.
Though this video is somewhat aged, and (some) prices may have changed on new equipment, it's still pretty much spot-on. It has great recommendations for those just getting started in dual sport riding. Value shop; look for the "deals", or the bike won't be your most expensive purchase. Thanks for leaving this video up. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.
I got fazer boots at my local atv dealership that were originally $130 on sale for $75 and same for my helmet I got them and they have held up extremely well in my crashes
When i finally get into ADV riding i will be coming back here to gear up! Thanks for the Great content!
+GripSanity Thanks so much! Hopefully you get some great deals :)
Once again... you always seem to come up with exactly what I need at exactly the right time. :) thanks for doing what you do brother!
shadetree surgeon Thanks so much man! Ya'll stay safe now! :D
Hi everide. Just wanted to say love the videos man keep em coming. They are very informative and helpful. I've been out of riding for a few years. But a few videos of yours and I'm ready to be back on two wheels. I'm from Pennsylvania so I am running out of summer. But anyways have a great day.
bdubs180 Thanks so much! Enjoy the rest of the summer and ESPECIALLY the fall!
everRide you rock man! love your videos! They're always so entertaining and educational. Your two wheel community appreciates and loves you for it!
I love your tips. I’m an adventure rider from the UK but living in Mongolia. I’m also on a very, very tight budget. I’ve trolled eBay and local ads and found some great bargains. RST is a UK brand that makes gear at about 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of fancy brands for similar protection. For example their adventure 2 boot $130, is similar design to Sidi adventure boot for 1/3rd of the retail price. I’ve owned both. I bought my girlfriend the fly racing trekker and I have the Bell mx-9 adventure mips. Both were about $180 on sale. For the clothing we bought Aldi suits they cost about $150 for the jacket and pants or a lot less slightly used.
Aldi, which is everywhere except the USA, sells astoundingly good stuff at way below market prices but it’s CE approved. The whole garment, not just the armour. Americans can probably get it by buying online and/or through a forwarding company. Jackets, pants, gloves, and boots but not much else is what they have. I ordered a whole set of clothes for less than $200 and bought a Bell mx-9 adventure MIPS. My total was about the same as yours.
By the way, I love your budget approach. I’m not in a position to spend crazy amounts on gear but want to be safe all the same.
Funny that I have a pair of the Oxtar boots and got them a couple years ago for $60 used. Squeaky dang boots. I also have the ARC shorts and their riding socks. Definite bang for the buck. TMS armored shirt also. Jersey and pants bought at clearance. HJC helmet I bought new. Good stuff man! Nice clean, to the point review.
Brian West Dude you're so right, those Oxtar boots are stiff and nearly invincible, but I sound like a rusty door hinge! lol :)
There are several guys in my riding group that use the O'neil boots and they love them.
jaetheo That's good! Man compared to other boots, those things are really inexpensive. I might have to snag some one of these days.
I started out with a pair of Oneal Element boots. For the money, they aren't bad. The toe box is kind of big so an extended shift lever is a good idea and they are a bit stiff, but still a good value. Especially for a starter boot.
I would also add a pair of knee brace socks. For the long rides it will keep your knee guards from chafing the skin on your knees.
SpiritStrike.com Ahhh yes, long socks have been very good for the knees under those knee pads!
As a slightly larger guy needing the xl or more armor I chose the fly barricade, we'll see how it holds up but it looks similar to the Fox Titan and was 126 at a slight discount.
Also Imho looking at the clearance mx helmets will be a better value than the Afx. (slower trail riding)
My friend and riding buddy has the Afx and without the face shield it's incredibly loud, whereas my one industries mx was reality quiet with goggles. I also paid $90 for it. Regular price I would have picked up the scorpion vx35 or bell mx9.
Really great content! Great job! Very informative. We hope to share it with our new adventurers!! Ride Safe!
the only bit of my gear that i bought new were my gearne adv boots. i have cortech mesh pants, tourmaster flex jacket (has mesh inner jacket and canvas outter plus liner!) and my agv exo8 adv helmet. $40 for the pants, $50 for the jacket and $250 for the helmet (new was $400). i figure thats one bit not to skimp on and the fit was perfect for me after some swapping of pads. i'm strongly leaning towards the armor shirt. i like the idea of it. my pants include hip/thigh and knee pads. if i get to do more than slab, then the knee guards are a good idea. come to think of it, i at least have some old skateboard knee pads i could put on. better than nothing.... my gloves i got "for free" in a motorcycle deal several years ago, though i did spend about $25 for a clearance pair of alpinestar winter gloves.
Great vid. Great suggestions as well.
This is the perfect video both for someone looking to get into dual-sport riding and for someone who might be looking for extra gear to loan to friends. Thank you for putting this together. Well done.
***** Thanks Mark! I hope it helps a few more people when spring rolls around. It's not getting a ton of traction now but I think it might get views in the long run :)
love the look of those knee guards! the knee pads in my pants are inadequate, and my knees are all bruised! shorts and skirt season is upon us....and i look like i have been beaten. so I will look into the ARC corona knee guards. Thanks for the video
Nice video. I bought a lot of my gear on Ebay too. The armour works great in hot environs. Riding gear have saved my skin a few times and especially important when riding in foreign undeveloped countries.
A huge thanks to kaianine for the awesome website at everide.org, and a great big thanks to NessedUpProductions and minitstop for the excellent riding footage!
so have you given up on the other site everide adv motorcycling. that last entry was 3 november 2014. just wondering.
michael adams I think he is using that just for longer trips :-)
Hey man, thanks for the video. Seriously, I have been scouring the endless gear pages for riding gear. For the most part everything you showcased is damn near if not spot on what I found myself. Some of us cant afford the "Good stuff" so thank you good sir for taking out the monotony of what I had to do so others can have a base point for the gear that they may be seeking.
Edited: I was typing while I was listening then I heard you talking about boots. I dont disagree with you about trying to save a few on gear but boots are one of those things I cant stress enough. I would rather spend an entire paychecks worth on a quality pair of motocross boots then settle for lesser or used ones. Just me though, I can get stubborn like that, so its not going to hurt anyone's wallet but mine.
michael adams Wait which site? Man I've got all my lines crossed... I just need to focus once in a while :)
Samual Iam Yeah that's for sure. I've beat the boots in this video to death... when I picked them up they were seriously like brand-new!
This is one of the reasons that I follow you and people like Ride AMAP , some of us can't afford $20,000 motorcycles and have thousands of dollars of ATGATT and accessories. That being said, I have found that sometimes a healthy investment is needed to solve certain problems. I followed your suggestion a long time ago about the TMS armor [weird that mine doesn't look like yours even though it is the same part number] and my next helmet will certainly be AFX but I have found that adventures and commuting where the clime is colder and has more intense rain I WILL spend more for the guarantee of waterproof protection without a liner. When it comes to jacket and pants up here [Wisconsin] one of the best investments that I have made is the Klim Overland pants. Not meant to be overpants but it works just fine as such. More money but can be worn from 0°F on up and in driving rain with no issues and will last more years than most other pants. My next upgrade will prolly be to improve on the First Gear Kilimanjaro jacket which I would like to have the same performance as the Klim pants. Really good after years of wearing but lost it's waterproof-ness somewhere along the line even though I treat this stuff with Nikwax.
I guess that I am saying that I take all of your suggestions to heart but in order to expand to year-round riding in this environment I need to add extra worthy investment in warm waterproof jacket and pants and, as I have been experimenting with lately, heated gloves and jacket liner. When I am in Utah I will otherwise be fully in agreement with with everything that you have recommended here.
Well done! Your suggestions about the AFX helmet, TMS armor, Decade gloves and MX boots will save me big dollars.
Well said kstoo . Cold weather riding helps to have good gear. Thanks for the insights.
Ride AMAP and kstoo Oh man the cold weather climates... yeah you've gotta talk to navythomas8 and Dr. Dual Sport for that. Those guys know their stuff!
eveRide ADV Look into Revit gear. My Defender GTX is REALLY GOOD in the cold. Subzero frequently.
after watching this I need to dig out my old a star boots from riding my kx in high school. I've been using my Harleys open face helmet on the wr and I know it's an accident waiting to happen so a ds helmet is in my future. thanks Tyler.
I also use the body armored shirt and it saved my ass a lot, i will never use just a chest protect-er, saw some bad crashes with that. The Leatt dual axis knee guards is very good.
For hip, thigh, butt and knee protection try padded football or athletic tights. They should work well under pants or shorts.
I heard you mention stell toed boots at the end of this. I thought those were frowned upon in MC boots? I think the reason is the steel bending and cutting off toes. Anyway, composite toe boots are widely available and also don't get so cold when the temps drop. Keep up the great work.
Great info bro! I really need to get some cold weather gear, so will look at that jacket and set of gloves you rock like Rockstar! My cold weather gear currently is a hoody and..... yeah that's it, lol
NessedUpProductions rofl! Man cold weather gear is such a toss-up for me. Getting sweaty can be a killer out here. I wear a big jacket like that, get sweaty, and then get way cold if the sun goes down. Just ask MrDuhfactor about our recent ride! It was icy nips!
when I picked up a dual sport helmet this year I made sure to choose the color "everide yellow". keep up the great videos.
Craigslist almost brand new Alpinestar tech 3 boots talked down to 40 bucks - traded a front wheel of a road bicycle for 661 pressure suit - gloves 3 pairs at Home Depot for 10 dollars, Big Five has street Hockey under the shorts padding for cheap- new Bell adventure 9 helmet came with my Honda xr400 that I traded some weapons for.. The deals are out there !! Shop in winter!
Great video, been looking for a new jacket, thanks for the info. I paid $299.00 for my cruiser works boots and they have lasted me over 10 years now and I had the soles replaced twice. Sometime it pays to shell out the big bucks. Keep up the fantastic work and thanks for sharing my friend!
lonestarrider Good call on the boots! Yeah when I snagged mine they were like-new. I've beat the snot out of them... they definitely look the part :) I should probably get them resoled soon!
Yea my buddy ordered the body armor in a triple large which he is normally a xl. He got it in and it was way to small he ended up giving it to me and it fits me just right. I normally wear a medium to large. I think they just made the same size armor but just retagged the different sizes. But just went to the good old goodwill here and found some Alpinestars tech 3 boots almost new for $7(i instantly thought of this video). Also found a new nelson-rigg rain suit for $3. And a riding jersey for about $3. And new riding pants for about $2. And Just the other day went riding and found a new helmet out in the middle of nowhere for free. Looked like someone was cleaning out there garage and just dumped it and sat the helmet right on top for someone to pick up. Didn't look like it had been sitting there for more than a day. Lol. But I'm always up for a deal and hate paying full price for anything, plus my wallet can't afford full price.
booshwaa2 YEEEAH! I love thrift stores! I snagged some 661 armor for $15 the other day, brand new with the tags! Weirdly, though, I actually prefer the TMS.
Agreed so difficult to sort out what to buy when new to the sport thanks Bro
***** Thanks man, hopefully it helps a few people find some decent budget gear. :)
Just got myself a pair of those knee protectors, thanks for this great video!
Excellent product advice and reviews here,Sir. Also i like that you put each item in its' own findable section for ease of future reference. Tho that's no real surprise from the hardest working man on youtube.
...Still loving them funky moves bro!! :D
BimbleBoy Blue Hahahhaa! Oh man I'm sure that so many people will see that intro and be like, "I'M OUT!" haha :D
Fall is upon us and my hands are getting cold in the decade gloves. Any suggestions on DCAM cold weather gloves?
Speaking from experience here, I now ride and walk with 1 native lower limb resulting from a motorcycle vs car accident. I wish I would have had on motocross boots and leg protection. The more geared up you are the better off you are, think of it like this, it takes maybe a minute or 2 to properly outfit yourself, just do it, if something happens you will wish you had geared up. Have this stuff squared away. And it doesn't matter if it's just a trip down the street to the grocery store, that's where my accident happened, never thought it would happen to me, learn from those of us who have been hurt, gear up and have a good ride!
Amputation Station That is excellent advice for sure! Honestly on that Moab crash... I might have been in a similar situation without the MX boot. A lot of people on the forums will balk at the idea of wearing an MX boot just for a trip to the store, but I'm totally happy being geared up. Thanks for the comment, sir!
Its interesting how when you are seriously injured in an accident you really begin to pay attention to the news stories and to dumb things people do when on a motorcycle. I have had to take a step back because i've stopped a couple people wearing no helmet, no shirt and sandals and shown them my leg. Its probably a little overboard on my part but given my experience its something I'm passionate about. The thing with a motorcycle crash that is often problematic and often devastating is that no matter what you are going to be ejected from the vehicle. There is a relationship between ejection and mortality or serious injury in car accidents. When flesh and bone hit something like concrete, metal, aluminum, rock, or hard wood, the flesh and bone tend to suffer a grave loss. With a motorcycle, its a given every time, you will be ejected like it or not. So the gear, for me, is a no brainer, I just wish I would have realized it on my little trip to the grocery store. I hope other people pay attention to your video, its excellent and the content can save someones life. Good work! Dude I can't wait to go do some single track with you!
Amputation Station Man that is a sad story... seriously I'd love to interview you sometime soon... if you're up for a trip to St. George you could hang at my place and I've got a bike to loan. Would you be up for a dual vlog? More people could definitely stand to hear your story and focus on a bit more safety! It's the grocery runs that seem to get most people.
For sure, we will have to do this in March or so, cool?
Great video as usual bud. I bit it pretty good last March while wearing standard knee protection and my mobility will never be the same with the damage my knee took. It was a freak accident, just looped it out of nowhere (was pretty tired) and my guess is my toe hit first and I was going fast enough to just twist the crap out of everything inside my knee, it actually severed the tendons all the way around as well as some other damage. Since then I splurged on some nice knee braces by Asterisk that are suppose to move the rotation up to the hip socket (by tethering to your boot) in such a situation since it is made to rotate unlike the knee. I haven't had to test if it works or not yet, and hope I never do. I think you are spot on when saying to invest a little extra in protection for that area. I wonder how common knee twisting injuries are. I'll tell you, it's a real drag and that sucker is probably gonna be pretty frail for some time. At least I was wearing the camera ;P
weasy's TH-cam Ah man that sounds so painful! I have heard that twisting injuries are fairly common, more in MX than with dual sport and adv riding... any time we put our leg out or down is a potential injury. I'm sad to hear about your leg but glad you found a potential solution. Get well fast!
EVER RIDE!!!!!!!!!!! I love your channel. You are super nice and really helpful.
I'm new to Adventure riding so this was very helpful indeed. Thanks so much
Lol, I was going to raise this topic with you... I'm meeting has for when I come. You've answered various of my questions. :)
Neil's in... Good deal man! As for long-range armor stuff... this is the stuff I wore for my 5000 mile adventure, and it was pretty comfortable... even the boots! They're super squeeky, though... you'll hear those soon enough :)
Haha, I just re-read what I wrote. I understood nothing. ;-)
Looking forward to your squeaks! :-P
I think I may get the neck brace...that's a good deal and worth the extra protection if needed!
Very good advice !! No such thing as too much protection...
K. Swaringen Yep... I wore this stuff over 5000 miles (Even the mx boots and knee guards) and never had comfort issues... I say if it's comfy and keeps you a little safer, it's not a bad thing :)
Nice and informative! I'll definitely be picking up the chest/spine protector! What a great deal.
foihdzas Fantastic! Yeah I have REALLY liked mine... I even "tested" it a few days ago with a nice face plant and shoulder-slide :D
Just got the tms shirt you recommended. ..awesome! Thanks.
dietcokeani Glad you like it! I've heard it doesn't work so well for the bigger guys, but mine has lasted crash after crash pretty well!
tried searching for the knee guards and not finding them at either site you recommended.
+Outdoorsnomad 03 Unfortunately they got discontinued... I'm trying to talk to the guys in charge to see if they can bring them back, but it's looking grim.
When I ride I always wear a helmet, goggles, Fly flex II knee/shin gaurds and fly flex II elbow guards sometimes weather or not I fee like it ill wear my fly roost guard (does help prevent impact) and fly maverik F4 boots and maybe ill wear my Msr axxis jersey and Msr axxis pants when i wear all this gear together it works amazing and does not prevent my movement at all and at the same time it greatly keeps me safe from almost all impacts I face and i ride on some pretty hard terrain with most of the time almost no give without the helmet and boots this stuff cost me 240 brand new off some retail clothes website as for the helmet I have a HJC cl-x4 that I got in like 2006 or somthing brand new for 120 and it has still is standing up to me perfectly to this day.. only one down side... this helmet offers little air flow and is really big and heavy, but has saved me tons of times and barely has a scratch... as for my boots they are really sturdy but are not easy to tighten without ruining the buckles unless you have massive perfectly toned calves but they do offer tons of protection but when I feel like being able to shift easily ill just wear some shorty boots that help some with the ankles...
Wow, well done Everide!
American Sanchez Thanks very much!
I was just looking for some knee/shin guards, and went back to this video for your review, but when I went looking for the ones you have in the vid, amazon doesn't have them anymore. Just thought I would let you know.
Hobbz-Garage I know it's a shame, right? I love them and they're still going strong. I'll have to find another inexpensive alternative. I wish RMATVMC would get more in stock!
Hey, this is genuinely useful information. Thank you.
I bought some O'Neal boots and they are nice but I have a hard time shifting up. I actually haven't ridden with them because of this. When I sit on the bike the left boot is too tall to comfortably get low enough to get under the shift lever. Is that normal?
+martinrps13 Unfortunately that is normal :\ Any inexpensive MX boot is going to be stiff for quite a while, and some retain their stiffness even after a good break-in. It's almost a matter of just getting used to them. I ride in stiff boots so often that riding in anything else now feels weird. I broke my boots in while riding on easy trails and street stuff, then got used to them on the more technical trails. Rear brake pressure was tough to get right with such stiff boots, but it has paid off a lot as these boots saved my legs twice on a ride just two days ago :) I hope that helps!
eveRide ADV Yeah I may have to just wear them around the house and see if they get any better. Problem is I cannot even shift up with them now.
+martinrps13 You will need to rotate your gear shift leaver upwards so that your boot can fit underneath. It means you have to lift your foot up to shift down but you will get used to it.
Christian Carling I will try that!
...for this same reason, I have taken to riding with some nice AXO street commuter style boot that are waterproof, allowing me to keep the shifter on my heavily modified XR650L in a more natural position for mixed Dual Sport riding. Having said this, there are times when I know I'm going to be in the severe rough way more then street and so wear MX boots and with these I have to reposition the sifter to allow both for the boots and for standing at speed...
Check out the Fly Racing Maverick Motocross boots. Only 79.99 on revzilla, I absolutely love them. Super sturdy and great protection for a great price.
First of all, nice job on the video. Thanks for your efforts! It appears the knee protection is no longer available... Has anyone found a similar alternative?
Hey eveRide. How do you keep warm? At near freezing. I was wondering the armor will make it difficult to add many layers and the rain jacket to cut the wind. I am looking a new upper body setup and an exoskeleton with my Tourmaster Sentinel Rain Jacket will be fantastic, but recent near freezing temps in FL left me wondering how to add layers and still be able to zip up the rain jacket.
I'm in the proves of collecting gear and I was thinking, maybe getting a pair of hockey girdles for upper leg protection.
Just checked out the arc knee brace to find they are unavailable at this time from amazon at this time.
Piston Slap I know, HUGE bummer! They're sold out everywhere, too. Those things really are great, and I'm sure they made a ton of money on them because people bought them like hotcakes. Hopefully they'll get them back soon!
eveRide ADV Piston Slap Seems like it's a similar case with the TMS jacket, though I can find a number of other brands that look exactly the same. I'm thinking it's all coming from the same supplier and just rebranded?
Warren Fletch I thought that might be the case, but the reviews show that some of the clones of the clones are abysmal. For larger sizes, even the TMS brand was terrible. For size L and XL it worked great, though, but bigger guys couldn't get it to work. I actually bought the TMS knee guards and they aren't worth the money. I hope RMATVMC gets the ARC guards back in stock. Those are by far the best value for money for knee guards that I have found so far.
eveRide ADV Do you have any other suggestions for a cheap but decent armored jacket? I'm thinking of getting one instead of a vented jacket for those super hot days. I'll have to keep checking back for those ARC knee guards though, they definitely seem better than anything else in that price range for sure!
Warren Fletch I wish I had some really good advice, but I've only ever tried the Fox Titan, the TMS Clone, and recently got a 661 Jacket for $15 at the local thrift store. I actually like the TMS armor better (but don't tell them that!) If you're a size m or l, I would go for the TMS (just get it in a size larger). Bigger guys (XL and above) don't like the TMS. Count on the shoulder zippers to break when you breathe on them, but otherwise it's a solid bit of protection, especially for the moolah :)
Good choice of equipment at reasonable prices! I would repeat what you said about the TMS body armor. If you have a trim physique up to size L it is great. If you are any larger such as me don't try it because it will not fit you.
Dr. Dual Sport Yeah I've had a lot of bigger guys let me know that the big sizes just don't even come close!
Hey everide, how do you deal with atgatt in the desert? I live in a SoCal high desert, and it feels like I'm riding with a hair dryer mounted to my bike pointed at me. I find it really difficult to convince myself sometimes that the heat is worth enduring.
Sean Noonan Man you've got a good point. As the weather hits the high 90s and 100s almost every day now (in June) it's getting harder to get out and ride without something to cool me down. I've been a huge fan of the "Ergodyne" cooling vest and those $6 bandanna water things from Wal-Mart. The cooling vests really work, though... and save a ton of water from evaporating as sweat for an hour or so. Check it out at amzn.to/1BcmJ1Y
what are people's opinions on coveralls vs overalls vs pants/jacket
Great reviews man! You are the king of DCAM that is for sure. So I have the fox titan knee pads and they don't fit well at all. When I go down on my knees they feel like they are trying to rip my knee cap off. This has kept me from ever waring them while riding. Do you think the ARC ones would be better for a guy my size? It has to be comfortable or I just won't ware it.
This question from the guy who wares all ARC gear......
ColoradoDualSport man I'd give them a shot! Maybe when you're out here you can try mine? They're kindof a "one size" but they do feel quite big on me... big enough to double cross the straps at the back and feel a lot of room in the knee cup. I gotta say, though... having that articulation and protection above the knee has been REALLY nice!
thanks for the video EveRide, I've gotten a bunch of stuff from thrift stores and garage sales, like my scorpion Mesh Jacket (without a liner) for $10
The2WheelManiac Haha that's an awesome deal! I LOVE garage sales and thrift stores! Especially in the really nice neighborhoods! :D
Any thoughts on on an update to ATGATT gear list?
I've gotta say, I'm happy with my coat and pants. But you've got me sold on those knee guards and armor shirt. I'm still not a fan of used shoes though, I'll just have to stuck if up and drop some cash on them. Untill then, the old boots I used to have to wear every day will have to work.
Still, I'm thinking a helmet without the visor next time. Most of my riding is on the road... im not sure yet. I've got the MSR Expedition now, looks amazingly similar to the FX-39 and Fly you mentiomed. It is a bit loud on the highway and lets in a lot of wind and noise. I hope the chin curtain I picked up helps with some of that (the one for the AFX fits my helmet). One other thing, if I take the visor off, the screws are too long and the shield is lose on mine. If that not an issue on the AFX?
FRAG-AFE That hasn't happened with the AFX in my experience. You're right, though... I think a lot of guys get the DS helmets for the "look" and really would never need the peak. In all honesty it's just a big sail on the highway! :D There are times while riding into the sun that it has helped, and their original purpose is actually to also shield from roost!
Tyler does the tms armor cover your elbows?
I bought a similar model(same model but no tms logo on it) and the elbow protectors doesn't seen to stay where they should.
I am 11 and I bought gloves for 100 bucks but aren't waterproof but the up sides are the knuckles are carbon fibre with thick plastic over and the finger tips are able to use a phone. Do you guys think I spend to much but the gloves are monster energy gloves so it is a big brand and I think that it will have good protection
I've got a pair of Oneal Clutch mx boots. I'm really happy with then considering the price =)
***** Very nice! I keep hearing good things about the Oneal boots in the comments, so it looks like people are liking them!
can your helmet double as a paintball helmet ?
great review on the gear that you use. Stay safe
Tankerman Thanks again Tankerman! I hope this video helps some of the more budget-conscious out there find some decent gear and get a bit of coverage :)
Any hard guard recommendations? TIA
+chaoticdriver I personally like the Tusk hand guards from Rocky Mountain ATV MC and the Trackside guards from Cycle gear.
what were the yellow bags you had on the mighty duck?
The Rider Ah man those were some old school harbor freight tool bags. They worked pretty well until one of them got sucked into the rear wheel. Haha that wasn't fun picking that out of there! :D
Hello Everide. Just wanted to know some personal information about you :DD... Kidding yea. I am on the way to buy like your TMS body armor, but again I am confused by the sizes. Sooo personal question: How tall are you and what is your weight, and this body armor of yours is in XL size? Thanks
what do you wear over the armor in hot weather?
Great video thanks Tyler! Fun intro great info!
David Walker Thanks David! Hopefully the dancing doesn't make anybody feel uncomfortable lol!
Hey ever ride great reviews on everything Iv already carted a lot of these items for the next season ride. I had a question about the gloves I found them cheapest in Amazon but they only come in 2 sizes medium/large or large/ extra large. Would you say a loose glove is better the snug one or vice versa?
Any ideas on padded riding shorts for us, ahem, larger folks? The ARC padded shorts only go up to 36" waist, which I haven't been able to squeeze into since high-school.
+B Morris I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but an amazon or ebay search for riding pants usually comes up with some good options. I recently got some on a DCAM deal for $7 and they're amazing!
Excellent video thanks a bunch
I'm having a hard time finding boots in a size 18 any suggestions.
+jky453 That's a tough call! Maybe try calling retailers directly to see if there's a specific order they can make?
Ill Vouch for the Decade gloves.
Do you ever ride at night? are mirrored visors hard to see through at night?
yes they are