Please do an off-season TMV vs Sliggy Presidential-style Debate about Clove in pro play, the banter and content would be so good, additional topic to debate could be Sliggy's Wingman hate Edit: Loser has to oil up
@@Monkeypant9viper and omen are still better than clove tho so it doesn't really matter that the cloves value in Lotus went from 0% to 20% when omen and viper are giving like 60% to 80% value on every game.
@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 It's not rlly 20% though, Kaplan pointed out the benefit of the clove is the speed of the executes EDG is able to make the Clove work by abusing the slow nature of the meta comp Though yeah viper and omen are better a lot of the time the clove omen combo lets you do some fun off meta stuff
The brief section towards the end of the LEV section of the podcast are a great reason as to why I continue watching this show. I appreciate you guys trying to use your voices to try influencing the community in a better direction and a reminder that it's very easy to not be a shitty person.
Respect to calling out the treatment of the mazino situation. As a abuse and sexual assault survivor fuck the jokes. I’m strong enough thankfully to be able to ignore and detach myself from those kind of jokes and those types of people but I’m not the norm many of my friends struggle with any mention of domestic abuse let alone jokes and immature stupid comments about something so serious. Please call it out because abuse can and does ruin and shape lives treat it with the levity and seriousness an issue like this deserves wether the allegations are true or not shouldn’t change how we conduct ourselves as a community
Its all kinds of scuffed that people think that kind of joking around is okay. That’s gamers on their best behavior for ya. an Aside: hearing the words “Boston Uprising Widowmaker” gave me way too much whiplash and I’m gonna need these fools perpetuating this BS to slow their fucking roll
Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 185): 3:18 “Nah, shit, I guess you gotta get a new one” *Note, this one, with enough votes, can be appealed as Mimi may have said “shoot” - although 4:20 “Go jerk off in a mirror” would probably do the trick either way *FAILURE* Record for 2024: 9-17 (.346) Culprit - Mimi Leaderboard: 1. Bren (5) 2. Balla (3) 3. Mimi (2) 4. Kurt (1) 5. mCe (1) 6. Paperthin (1) 7. Sean Gares (1) 8. Sideshow (1) 9. TMV (1) 10. Wyatt (1) Honorable Mentions: 1. 3D Gooning (1) 2. Imagine Dragons (1)
Thank you bren for your lev take, it is literally what ive been feeling forever and have been feeling CRAZY from seeing these other peoples takes on lev
Same. Inconsistency is a huge flaw for them, more than just “that’s how valorant works”. I mean they got knocked out of Shanghai swiss getting 13-1’d by Fut LOL
My fav moments 0:41SLIGGY LORE 4:16 Out of Context Quote 11:36 EDG Biggest Praise 19:35 Last Year Nobody 27:15 Bren's Nan comparison to KK speech 32:20 Looking back on Heretics' year 43:06 Bren Lev rant teaser 47:21 Thoughts on Prx in the future? 52:58 Prx are factory workers 53:56 Brennon Al Gaib pt 608 1:01:05 Bren Lev Rant Official 1:08:54 Bren Lev rant pt 2 1:16:08 Egg (somehow) muted Bren 1:17:49 Jumpscare 1:29:35 Tldr of how to be a good lad 1:30:36 BAM 1:45:32 BASED SLIGGY 2:13:17 Sliggy Al Gaib?? + his guess on where Derke goes (Bren's hard stuck lore)
I'm a Lev fan but the "it's hard to be consistent" is mad cope. They don't need to be consistent all season but they varied so much match to match. Never mind the fact that they kept picking Icebox "their best map" and could only win it in the messiest OTs was shameful.
I'm impressed with Bren's opinion, here you can clearly see the difference between a professional analyst/player, and a commentator who doesn't understand the game he's commenting on.
he's fishing for reactions for sure, but his take is rooted in the fact of aspas' passive playstyle. whether you agree or not is up to you, but claiming he doesn't know what he is talking about is stupid when he spends more time watching the game than most people can comprehend.
The regional parity in Valorant is just insane. I also watch Rainbow Six Siege, which has been out for almost a decade, and an APAC team has never won a single international event. Hell, only one has ever reached a grand final. This is SO big for the game. China winning in their first official year?! Crazy
this is 100% my favorite thing about vct besides watching the game itself, esp coming from ow lol makes the community feel really special as well with so many different regions being super invested
Sen's abyss makes me irrationally mad. Because they had a better abyss, they'd been doing the g2 comp in prac with tenz on yoru and been doing well enough to scare drx to ban it. I dont know if they changed it because no one won with it or to surprise heretics or what.
saying "com is stuck on that team" is crazy when the dude literally was just bottom frag all year, flanking as initiator when he could just help his team
@@arvy7765 1 champ, top 3 champs twice, 2 vcts americas (mvp in both) top 2 masters, top 2 lock in, try to do that being a beiter duelist, you wouldn't do it like no other duelist has done so far. You are just a piece of shit, talking shit, nothing more than that
i’m pretty sure brens point was that com is hungry to win on a team that doesn’t seem to match his drive, regardless of individual performance within the server
@@arvy7765 i dont think that he was baiting, i agree that aspas dont entry like KK or zekken but that is because they dont play double initiator and the sova who was supposed to scan for entry is flanking
@@sleefy2343 tenz matched zekken's impact, but it's hard to compare to the TH game because he was practically walking on water for the first two maps.
Saying that c0m is stuck with aspas like that is the most idiotic take i've seen this year Yes fucking Aspas needs to adapt his gameplay to the only player that is a Sova lurker in the world, who got on the team months later
That sova lurker won Champs just like Aspas so I think there's some merit to his take. He had a bad year because he's in a team that doesn't suit him at all.
@@speedforce8970if that’s the case, COM should probably leave LEV. LEV can’t play just waiting for the sova lurker to make his play, that’s not how you win games. COM actually a really smart player and good vibes merchant but he wasn’t stuck with anyone lmao
@@Malam_NightYoru bet no one can carry either of you to a champs win. He can't shoot straight because he never did, he was always a lurker and his team allowed that playstyle in EG but LEV is manufactured af with no system for its players so they all do what they want. Even Potter praises C0m all the time and she was their coach, she'd know better than some random TH-cam commenters.
In support of Bren, Sliggy was losing his mind when lev were playing abyss and they just went mid with Aspas oping on attack with no ideas how to play the round. Sliggy already forgetting smh
@@nightthekidr5This is one singular map, new to the rotation, and teams are still figuring out how to play it. I don't see why would that be the complete problem
I dont love the viewership comparison because these games took place at 4am est. Usually on week days. Most of the NA folks where asleep and whernt crazy staying up all night like me
@@miffedmeff7302 theres also 13 times as many people in china as in NA, we could look at how this math is scuffed regardless. Im just saying, thinking that NA numbers look weak without admitting that they took place when most of the western hemispher was asleep is odd
@@velocitiyraptoryour math is not mathing. There’s 1.4 Billion people in China, and there’s 300 million people in the USA alone, so that’s already only 4x. And the region is not NA, it’s Americas, so throw in 200 million more people from Brazil, and you’ve got 500 million. North and South America combine for around 1 billion people
Bro.. it might not be you but fans will still watch the games even if they start that late. Our region just isn't top dog in viewership anymore, just look at CN and JP - even on weekdays their viewership is bonkers
Idk why its so hard for sideshow to just look up vlr where tenz is 13th ranked right behind zekken and aspas and averaged 214 acs which is nuts for a controller flex.
I want to be proven wrong but I don't think Heretics is gonna win a title. Those losses will be more of a burden than a motivation to them no matter how you want to spin the narrative.
I wholly agree that the big influencers and content creators in Valorant are NOT doing a good job maintaining a good community outside of their sphere. Yes of course, you can build a good space for your own but calling out bad behavior in other spaces is important too. I think the fact that people like WestJett is still going strong and promoting toxicity to his children fanbase while NO ONE has called out his egregious misuse of his platform by any big names in the community yet says a lot about this issue.
I'm sorry Bren, but that take on Aspas was borderline disrespectful. We do not need to argue about his Status as Goat or best duelist, but implying he is playing for stats to keep his monetary comfortable position is to downgrade all his accomplishments as player, specially this year with LEV. I don't know man but this was truly awful and rude tbh.. Aspas is well know to have a very discipline take on the game, playing studyng and scrimming since Loud '22. Saying He play for stats when he should always get aggressively traded not only is a limited way of thinking in the game as well go against many points all of the table was making about LEV, the inconsistency, and lack of more structure, should Aspas trade his life every round for such a inconsistent result? I love and am a fan since OWL days, but this take was kinda too much man.
referring to him as a trust fund whatever was a bit rude and whatever else he said. however his points about aspas' gameplay and the community narrative about aspas is mostly on point. like its littered with exaggeration to get his point across which he did say.
@@jadedmari I do not disagree with critique and specially LEV on what all players could do better, even Aspas. The suggestion of not having the "fire" or not hard tryng because he's getting the bag it's lunacy and disrespectful. Which is odd, i love Bren and his mad takes, but he doesn't usually mixed with just straight non professionalism allegations. Bren himself talked about it multiple times the time energy and sacrifice necessary to be a succeful pro player. It's kinda mad doubting that from a Player who is on top of the world for 3 straight seasons.
Just a small acessability note for Kurt if possible with these things you don't ask you don't get I guess. The chances are if its at least like this for me someone else might have the same problem. Love the background animation but the flashing logo at points was a little troubling for my eyes and sadly had to swap to the audio format on Spotify, it was a little bit of a shame as I enjoy visually watching and watching the topics talked about with the visuals to add to them
The apas hate here is so unfair, dude played like a god his team wins he plays normal his team loses and it is somehow his fault wtf, his teamates are not even in the top 10 assists.
He played like a God. THE God from the Bible. Ie. Keeps demanding human sacrifices, needlessly torments his followers, has no faith in them while demanding absolute faith in himself. Aspas is God. And God is cruel
Damn sideshows comments on frost were too far. When did it become okay to stereotype loud personalities as always being sleazy bullies. As someone who has also watched a lot of the spiketalk episodes frost is definitely more introspective and normal than most people think.
Sideshow stating that drx is not a five that should stay is just wild. Putting beyn out of consideration based on his performance when there are rumors that he is doing a sub igl as rookie and comparing benjy, who has played in other titles with high pressured games with foxy9 who only has played in japanese challengers is just bonkers
I need you guys to deliver thoughts on Vyse, and soon. She looks incredible. I hope Riot doesn’t nerf her before more competitive play & VCT’s. I really like the look of the agent.
the machinations of brens mind lmao he is so stressed , i been in that position not being able to afford rent like any other person but also having to play with ascendants is beyond draining cus these apes will literally complain about things from round 1.
Bren loving Sen saying nothing about their terrible Deadlock comp. Bren shitting on Lev talking mostly about their Deadlock comp. Rob Moore been signing cheques. Wow it is getting even worse what the fuck? It was funny at first but if I was a litigious LEV player I’d sue Bren for defamation. “They failed as a super team” is a real sentence said about the best team in Americas. Absolutely crazy.
i think his point was that zekken didn’t look as insane in that series as he has recently, he wasn’t too bad on the stats page but he felt less impactful when i was watching imo
For real, people heard that whole rant and instead of picking apart his take, they pick apart his identity instead even though he's not even American. People can't form arguments so they just use a fallacy instead
You have to understand that YT commentors are in the bottom half of the intelligence pool. You will never get anything resembling honesty or critical thinking for them.
bren, quando você for o jogador mais constante do cenário competitivo de valorant e considerado o melhor do mundo aí você pode falar do aspas, até lá cala a boca seu ruim
Como um desprovido de graça desses, com alcance que tem, com o trabalho que tem, não se da ao mínimo de esforço de entender, analisar o jogo Estilo de jogo da leviatã é diferente da EDG, aspas jogando é diferente do KamKam, e ainda esse corno tem a audácia de falar que o aspas é baiter Bren, só te falo uma coisa, o que tu quer tá mole amigão
i really agree with bren cuz like of course aspas is the goat and he will always be one of the best in the world, but this year it felt like he was playing to be the best individual player and not winning championships
Wow, EDward Gaming really showed up! 🌟 Love the energy and the plays were insane! Makes me wonder how many more surprises we’ll get this season. And seriously, do we need more memes from this tourney? 😂 Can’t stop laughing! 🎮
Not even Noah had to carry as many animals in the ark as Aspas has to carry in the LEV and it's still not good for Bren, Aspas needs to want to be changed and open the bombsite like a noob for him to be satisfied, that's crazy...
@@speedforce8970He is saying NA because aspas is from south america. Don't matter the region, the guy is crying because he is not north american, because they are very xenophobic towards brazilians
@@Malam_NightYoru xenophobic after rating him number 1 in every list this year? Xenophobic when he literally said that Brazilian fans would agree with him and he loves Brazil. Yeahh you're delusional
Too little derke glaze in this video, you can make a genuine argument for him being THE BEST DUELIST if not THE BEST PLAYER of the franchising era. Trophies : the most, consistency? Insane. Good presenve in the team, great aggressive playmaking (watch any of his ranked vods and see how much creativity he has when let loose) S tier stats and S tier mechanics to top that off. Yes his stats weren't that insane in 2023 but it was hard to get insane frags on a team with prime Alfa, Leo and Chron
Bren não consegue ser nem o melhor caster e ataca o melhor jogador do mundo por ser Brasileiro, inveja mata, mas nortes americanos sempre inventam algo pra criticar um brasileiro, v s f. espero q esse cenário apodreça.
@@cheesewater74You guys are fkin braindead 😂 You're so dedicated to glazing aspas you don't even realise how much he baited his whole team the entire year as their only duelist
@@cheesewater74also yay fell off after C9 aka the first game he played on DSG, it didn't take 2 years, it took like 2 months 😅 but just use racism as your defense I guess
@@arvy7765okay? I never said it was only reason (brasil being the most critical of his performance literally counteracts that). I just think it’s an interesting pattern to talk about, not just with yay, but with other NA duelists. If you don’t that’s fine too. (Also I only just got into vct recently and I still heard people calling yay the goat, if my times are off that’s my b)
@policarp0 this is a non sequitur. Anyone who has watched Plat Chat for more than 2 months knows how highly everyone ranks Aspas, and the Brazilians in the scene. All year, they have been singing the praises of Aspas and his impact (discussing the idea that he took Lev from consistently underperforming to elite, while also pointing out that Loud has struggled without his presence) Hell, I’m sure everyone remembers the pedestal Furia was placed on last year after a single good match at the start of Split 1. Anyone who’s followed Plat Chat for an actual length of time knows that this has nothing to do with Aspas being Brazilian. Bren and Sideshow have been the two biggest voices in the scene discussing the incredibly difficult isolating experience that has been VCT Americas for the Brazilian and Latam players.
@@joegallagher9238 fair, their names are said the same and I was overcome with a deep feeling of global underappreciation common for poles as soon as I wad denied the opporunity to type POLSKA MENTIONED in the comments.
If Aspas had been born a little further up on the American continent, there wouldn't be all this crying! Bren, think before omitting such stupid and unreasonable opinions. It's just disgusting.
Really? He and everyone in plat chat rated him number 1 player in every list. The entire year they sung his praises and now that he threw a grand finals spot, suddenly they hate Brazillians even though he literally said he loves Brazil
@@speedforce8970Yes, he "threw". The throwing for you is having a mid day. Aspas is so good, when he has an okay game everyone says he threw. See the point? The norm for him is literally carrying that stupid initiator that baits entire team flanking. C0M is a fraud, always was. I'm sorry for Tex that received undeserved hate for taking a role he never played, honestly Tex and Aspas are two of the best in americas.
Mimimimimimimimimimimimi: He talked, talked, talked, and in the end, said nothing. What a shitty opinion, what a failed reasoning from this Bren. He stuttered like crazy, his brain froze when he mentioned ASPAS.
@@sleepking2565 Sacy was the X factor for them to win BIND. Both were inconsistent but Sacy was more important in clutch situations without it they woulve lost to Loud ;)
@@HaydenDom I dont think they need to drop anyone to be successful again, Just fix the issues, the communication, try not o put sacy in such a supportive role etc
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Please do an off-season TMV vs Sliggy Presidential-style Debate about Clove in pro play, the banter and content would be so good, additional topic to debate could be Sliggy's Wingman hate
Edit: Loser has to oil up
At this point TMV has no argument on lotus clove has had a lot of impact too bad lotus is leaving next season
@@Monkeypant9viper and omen are still better than clove tho so it doesn't really matter that the cloves value in Lotus went from 0% to 20% when omen and viper are giving like 60% to 80% value on every game.
Add chamber and Reyna in comp to the panel of questions
@@prajwalkrishnabhat5539 It's not rlly 20% though, Kaplan pointed out the benefit of the clove is the speed of the executes
EDG is able to make the Clove work by abusing the slow nature of the meta comp
Though yeah viper and omen are better a lot of the time
the clove omen combo lets you do some fun off meta stuff
Oh my god this is perfect
Just FYI Meteor is going to military service next year, he will be unable to compete for GenG, this came from Meteor himself in his Discord
Oof, I was gonna point out Jinggg got out from military service but I do know it’s a lot harder to get out of military service in SK
They still have texture and prob geng can get zest from bleed cuss they gonna sell him
I went to meteor's dc link and found no msg in his question channel or i just miss some other msg in chat channel there? Thx in advance
That is sad no more clutches from my favourite player from Gen g
The brief section towards the end of the LEV section of the podcast are a great reason as to why I continue watching this show. I appreciate you guys trying to use your voices to try influencing the community in a better direction and a reminder that it's very easy to not be a shitty person.
Bren’s LEV rants made me think this comment was about something entirely, you’re so right though.
Respect to calling out the treatment of the mazino situation. As a abuse and sexual assault survivor fuck the jokes. I’m strong enough thankfully to be able to ignore and detach myself from those kind of jokes and those types of people but I’m not the norm many of my friends struggle with any mention of domestic abuse let alone jokes and immature stupid comments about something so serious. Please call it out because abuse can and does ruin and shape lives treat it with the levity and seriousness an issue like this deserves wether the allegations are true or not shouldn’t change how we conduct ourselves as a community
Its all kinds of scuffed that people think that kind of joking around is okay. That’s gamers on their best behavior for ya.
an Aside: hearing the words “Boston Uprising Widowmaker” gave me way too much whiplash and I’m gonna need these fools perpetuating this BS to slow their fucking roll
@@Toshiro-dono I had to do a quadruple take to make sure I took my meds that day when I first heard it
Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 185):
3:18 “Nah, shit, I guess you gotta get a new one”
*Note, this one, with enough votes, can be appealed as Mimi may have said “shoot” - although 4:20 “Go jerk off in a mirror” would probably do the trick either way
*FAILURE*
Record for 2024: 9-17 (.346)
Culprit - Mimi
Leaderboard:
1. Bren (5)
2. Balla (3)
3. Mimi (2)
4. Kurt (1)
5. mCe (1)
6. Paperthin (1)
7. Sean Gares (1)
8. Sideshow (1)
9. TMV (1)
10. Wyatt (1)
Honorable Mentions:
1. 3D Gooning (1)
2. Imagine Dragons (1)
Can someone explain the imagine dragons one?
@@salvadornunes3036imagine dragons these nuts across your face
I think u need to go outside
you first
@@xafter828 i think you need some hobbies
Thank you bren for your lev take, it is literally what ive been feeling forever and have been feeling CRAZY from seeing these other peoples takes on lev
i honestly understand bren's leviatan rant
Same. Inconsistency is a huge flaw for them, more than just “that’s how valorant works”. I mean they got knocked out of Shanghai swiss getting 13-1’d by Fut LOL
Could also be applied to EDG's run, probably the closest thing to a fluke we've seen (altought flukes don't exist)
Honestly I'd be pissed off as well. I really think LEV should've beaten EDG and made grand finals but of course their inconsistent and choked it
i became a lev hater in shanghai when they lost to fut out of pure incompetence
@kirtrex I feel like alot of the LEV Haters were once fans of the team
My fav moments
0:41SLIGGY LORE
4:16 Out of Context Quote
11:36 EDG Biggest Praise
19:35 Last Year Nobody
27:15 Bren's Nan comparison to KK speech
32:20 Looking back on Heretics' year
43:06 Bren Lev rant teaser
47:21 Thoughts on Prx in the future?
52:58 Prx are factory workers
53:56 Brennon Al Gaib pt 608
1:01:05 Bren Lev Rant Official
1:08:54 Bren Lev rant pt 2
1:16:08 Egg (somehow) muted Bren
1:17:49 Jumpscare
1:29:35 Tldr of how to be a good lad
1:30:36 BAM
1:45:32 BASED SLIGGY
2:13:17 Sliggy Al Gaib?? + his guess on where Derke goes (Bren's hard stuck lore)
Finally I have been missing egg content
The leviathan coach: VODS, not a part of my coaching philosophy.
nah, lev must’ve watched tons of vods to pick ascent against trace who were like 10-0 on that map
Where did he say that?
@@AUG_Glowit’s a joke…
@@Lucaz99 not very funny plus he doesnt even know how to spell the name of the team lol
@@AUG_Glow ok, still a joke even if it’s a bad one
petition for tweedle dum and tweedle dumber to make more pokemon content in the off season
I'm a Lev fan but the "it's hard to be consistent" is mad cope. They don't need to be consistent all season but they varied so much match to match. Never mind the fact that they kept picking Icebox "their best map" and could only win it in the messiest OTs was shameful.
I'm impressed with Bren's opinion, here you can clearly see the difference between a professional analyst/player, and a commentator who doesn't understand the game he's commenting on.
he hates aspas for no reason too
It has to be bait, it can’t be serious. I can’t take Bren seriously anyway lol
he's fishing for reactions for sure, but his take is rooted in the fact of aspas' passive playstyle. whether you agree or not is up to you, but claiming he doesn't know what he is talking about is stupid when he spends more time watching the game than most people can comprehend.
Cope more, lev is shit watch them not qualify for anything next year
The regional parity in Valorant is just insane. I also watch Rainbow Six Siege, which has been out for almost a decade, and an APAC team has never won a single international event. Hell, only one has ever reached a grand final. This is SO big for the game. China winning in their first official year?! Crazy
this is 100% my favorite thing about vct besides watching the game itself, esp coming from ow lol
makes the community feel really special as well with so many different regions being super invested
CS - years of EU domination
Apex - NA
Siege - Brazilian dictatorship at the moment
MOBAS - KR/CH most dominant forces
Valorant - free for all
well siege is just NA , Brazil and EU winning
Sen's abyss makes me irrationally mad. Because they had a better abyss, they'd been doing the g2 comp in prac with tenz on yoru and been doing well enough to scare drx to ban it. I dont know if they changed it because no one won with it or to surprise heretics or what.
saying "com is stuck on that team" is crazy when the dude literally was just bottom frag all year, flanking as initiator when he could just help his team
he's wrong about that, c0m was useless most of the year. but he's definitely right about aspas, he's a baiting duelist playing purely for stats
@@arvy7765 1 champ, top 3 champs twice, 2 vcts americas (mvp in both) top 2 masters, top 2 lock in, try to do that being a beiter duelist, you wouldn't do it like no other duelist has done so far. You are just a piece of shit, talking shit, nothing more than that
i’m pretty sure brens point was that com is hungry to win on a team that doesn’t seem to match his drive, regardless of individual performance within the server
@@arvy7765 i dont think that he was baiting, i agree that aspas dont entry like KK or zekken but that is because they dont play double initiator and the sova who was supposed to scan for entry is flanking
@@arvy7765I think this was one of the craziest things I've ever read, but there are crazy people for everything in this world
Sideshow is very wrong on TenZ not doing anything until the heretics game. He was very impactful against GenG, DRX, FPX and EDG as well.
Idk about tenz with edg but zekken had a huge impact on first map against edg
After that edg woke up and decided to go god mode
@tanjim4487 yeah tenz' only bad series was against fnatic and the first match against geng, otherwise he played well
@@sleefy2343 tenz matched zekken's impact, but it's hard to compare to the TH game because he was practically walking on water for the first two maps.
@@sleefy2343 Tenz dropped 300 acs last map againt edg wihile 3 sen members didnt even have 10 kills
bren was cooking this episode
Saying that c0m is stuck with aspas like that is the most idiotic take i've seen this year
Yes fucking Aspas needs to adapt his gameplay to the only player that is a Sova lurker in the world, who got on the team months later
That sova lurker won Champs just like Aspas so I think there's some merit to his take. He had a bad year because he's in a team that doesn't suit him at all.
@@speedforce8970That sova lurk cannot fucking shoot straight
@@speedforce8970 that sova lurk was fucking carried lol. If it wasnt demon1's crazy gameplay last year, EG and cUm would never won shit
@@speedforce8970if that’s the case, COM should probably leave LEV.
LEV can’t play just waiting for the sova lurker to make his play, that’s not how you win games.
COM actually a really smart player and good vibes merchant but he wasn’t stuck with anyone lmao
@@Malam_NightYoru bet no one can carry either of you to a champs win. He can't shoot straight because he never did, he was always a lurker and his team allowed that playstyle in EG but LEV is manufactured af with no system for its players so they all do what they want. Even Potter praises C0m all the time and she was their coach, she'd know better than some random TH-cam commenters.
In support of Bren, Sliggy was losing his mind when lev were playing abyss and they just went mid with Aspas oping on attack with no ideas how to play the round. Sliggy already forgetting smh
Nevermind he mentions it later but I still think Sliggy should’ve mentioned it earlier when Josh was attacking Bren lmao
@@nightthekidr5This is one singular map, new to the rotation, and teams are still figuring out how to play it.
I don't see why would that be the complete problem
Why support Bren yapping, he didn’t even know what his point was exactly
A PLATCHAT EPISODE AND I COULDNT WATCH IT LIVE 😭
I dont love the viewership comparison because these games took place at 4am est. Usually on week days. Most of the NA folks where asleep and whernt crazy staying up all night like me
Fr and I'm a huge VCT watcher. I adjusted my sleep schedule to watch it before work but I had to skip some matches bc it was too tiring 😭
I don't think NA alone has ever reached 3+million at their peak. So I think it's still a pretty valid comparison
@@miffedmeff7302 theres also 13 times as many people in china as in NA, we could look at how this math is scuffed regardless. Im just saying, thinking that NA numbers look weak without admitting that they took place when most of the western hemispher was asleep is odd
@@velocitiyraptoryour math is not mathing. There’s 1.4 Billion people in China, and there’s 300 million people in the USA alone, so that’s already only 4x. And the region is not NA, it’s Americas, so throw in 200 million more people from Brazil, and you’ve got 500 million. North and South America combine for around 1 billion people
Bro.. it might not be you but fans will still watch the games even if they start that late. Our region just isn't top dog in viewership anymore, just look at CN and JP - even on weekdays their viewership is bonkers
The LEV hate is very justified, you can not tell me their coach did any actual prep if you see the Trace map veto
Maybe he just didn't expect them to be that good, cockyness sometimes loses games.
Bren being the only REAL one talking about Leviatan.
Dont worry Bren as a Lev fan I hate Lev too
Bren needs to bring lothar to point out the flaws of leviatan
I just got time to watch this, wild that Bren spoke the opinion you're not allowed to have 1:10:06
I hated on G2 the entire year and put them to go to the finals for champs.. then they go 0-2 in playoffs.
That's so real. I pred them to make a LB run and win it all.
That is why you should hold onto your hate. I still hate them and man when they went 0-2 in playoffs, it was euphoric.
people stopped hating on them and they flopped. it was the hate that drove them to do well fr
That’s me too lmao
I got 105 points on VLR if I had predicted anyone else to make a LB run, it would have been better
CHICHOO winning the WWA means he has now joined Nats amongst the recipients and I just know he would be happy about that
Idk why its so hard for sideshow to just look up vlr where tenz is 13th ranked right behind zekken and aspas and averaged 214 acs which is nuts for a controller flex.
The english feed of the chinese league of legends (LPL) is very enjoyable and their content on tiktok is cool too.
1:10:38 New clip for TMV to use
Sacy is the aspas teacher. Aspas used to be morr agressive.
Bren is so insanely funny
I want to be proven wrong but I don't think Heretics is gonna win a title.
Those losses will be more of a burden than a motivation to them no matter how you want to spin the narrative.
I wholly agree that the big influencers and content creators in Valorant are NOT doing a good job maintaining a good community outside of their sphere. Yes of course, you can build a good space for your own but calling out bad behavior in other spaces is important too. I think the fact that people like WestJett is still going strong and promoting toxicity to his children fanbase while NO ONE has called out his egregious misuse of his platform by any big names in the community yet says a lot about this issue.
if Aspas was American, Bren would never talk about him like that...
Okay hasty generalization fallacy
bren isn’t even american and you’re delusional if you’re being serious, just watch the games yourself
yes, bren the american
he would talk more crap if he WAS american 😂
What are you on abt lmao
I'm sorry Bren, but that take on Aspas was borderline disrespectful. We do not need to argue about his Status as Goat or best duelist, but implying he is playing for stats to keep his monetary comfortable position is to downgrade all his accomplishments as player, specially this year with LEV. I don't know man but this was truly awful and rude tbh..
Aspas is well know to have a very discipline take on the game, playing studyng and scrimming since Loud '22. Saying He play for stats when he should always get aggressively traded not only is a limited way of thinking in the game as well go against many points all of the table was making about LEV, the inconsistency, and lack of more structure, should Aspas trade his life every round for such a inconsistent result?
I love and am a fan since OWL days, but this take was kinda too much man.
brother it’s a take about a video game. i think you’ll be okay.
this comment is surely bait
referring to him as a trust fund whatever was a bit rude and whatever else he said. however his points about aspas' gameplay and the community narrative about aspas is mostly on point. like its littered with exaggeration to get his point across which he did say.
@@jadedmari I do not disagree with critique and specially LEV on what all players could do better, even Aspas. The suggestion of not having the "fire" or not hard tryng because he's getting the bag it's lunacy and disrespectful. Which is odd, i love Bren and his mad takes, but he doesn't usually mixed with just straight non professionalism allegations.
Bren himself talked about it multiple times the time energy and sacrifice necessary to be a succeful pro player. It's kinda mad doubting that from a Player who is on top of the world for 3 straight seasons.
What accomplishments
Proposal: Off Season D&D Greenscreen Adventure. Eat the farmer! Eat the farmer!
I miss Wyatt.
Just a small acessability note for Kurt if possible with these things you don't ask you don't get I guess. The chances are if its at least like this for me someone else might have the same problem.
Love the background animation but the flashing logo at points was a little troubling for my eyes and sadly had to swap to the audio format on Spotify, it was a little bit of a shame as I enjoy visually watching and watching the topics talked about with the visuals to add to them
Bren hates on Lev is crazy. This guy is such a troll:))))
You need dandryad to balance the leviatan hate.
The apas hate here is so unfair, dude played like a god his team wins he plays normal his team loses and it is somehow his fault wtf, his teamates are not even in the top 10 assists.
Aspas was a very agressive player in his first pro player year, sacy and sadhak changed him for a more methodic playstyle
bren has the most vlr-esque take on aspas i've ever heard it's pure lunacy
@@parabolaewhat's pure lunacy is his shameless playstyle
He played like a God. THE God from the Bible. Ie. Keeps demanding human sacrifices, needlessly torments his followers, has no faith in them while demanding absolute faith in himself.
Aspas is God. And God is cruel
@@miffedmeff7302man, what??? 💀💀
Damn sideshows comments on frost were too far. When did it become okay to stereotype loud personalities as always being sleazy bullies. As someone who has also watched a lot of the spiketalk episodes frost is definitely more introspective and normal than most people think.
Can you put a timestamp for when he talked about frost plss?
1:20:20
Valid Aspas take from Bren
noob takes...
Sideshow stating that drx is not a five that should stay is just wild. Putting beyn out of consideration based on his performance when there are rumors that he is doing a sub igl as rookie and comparing benjy, who has played in other titles with high pressured games with foxy9 who only has played in japanese challengers is just bonkers
I need you guys to deliver thoughts on Vyse, and soon. She looks incredible. I hope Riot doesn’t nerf her before more competitive play & VCT’s. I really like the look of the agent.
Bro you can play where’s Waldo with Alice popping into the side of Brens cam
BETTER CALL BALD!!
I am still in search of Mimi's skincare routine, I have not been successful in finding out but I shall not be deterred.
the machinations of brens mind lmao he is so stressed , i been in that position not being able to afford rent like any other person but also having to play with ascendants is beyond draining cus these apes will literally complain about things from round 1.
Bren must be crazy, saying that Aspas is a baiter is crazy. Every pro player knows that Aspas is one of the best players in the world
Bren loving Sen saying nothing about their terrible Deadlock comp.
Bren shitting on Lev talking mostly about their Deadlock comp.
Rob Moore been signing cheques.
Wow it is getting even worse what the fuck? It was funny at first but if I was a litigious LEV player I’d sue Bren for defamation. “They failed as a super team” is a real sentence said about the best team in Americas. Absolutely crazy.
31:35 Kangkang literally played against Zekken though?
i think his point was that zekken didn’t look as insane in that series as he has recently, he wasn’t too bad on the stats page but he felt less impactful when i was watching imo
Bren switched out for trembolonarage there
I used to be in favor of legalizing pot but after seeing the aspas rant i think we might be better off without it wtf 😂
What is up w these comments saying if aspas was an american brens opinion would be different lmao where did that come from
For real, people heard that whole rant and instead of picking apart his take, they pick apart his identity instead even though he's not even American. People can't form arguments so they just use a fallacy instead
You have to understand that YT commentors are in the bottom half of the intelligence pool. You will never get anything resembling honesty or critical thinking for them.
that's how it goes if anyone says anything about any brazilian player
what is mimi trying to say lmao Sentinels isn't even the biggest NA org in NA.
Wasn't this the guy who boasted about demon1? really a good analyst
G2 Icyyy Raze is very good in Bind
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bren come to brazil
Bald.
bren, quando você for o jogador mais constante do cenário competitivo de valorant e considerado o melhor do mundo aí você pode falar do aspas, até lá cala a boca seu ruim
You cant disrespect Messi like that lol
i love to hear EDG glaze
peak lev rant by bren
Como um desprovido de graça desses, com alcance que tem, com o trabalho que tem, não se da ao mínimo de esforço de entender, analisar o jogo
Estilo de jogo da leviatã é diferente da EDG, aspas jogando é diferente do KamKam, e ainda esse corno tem a audácia de falar que o aspas é baiter
Bren, só te falo uma coisa, o que tu quer tá mole amigão
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imagina ser delulu igual esse bren aí, slk o cara não tem um neurônio que funciona ou ele só extremamente nal caráter
Now im a Bren hater👍
i really agree with bren cuz like of course aspas is the goat and he will always be one of the best in the world, but this year it felt like he was playing to be the best individual player and not winning championships
yeah, the team revolves around him, of course he is having good individual performance lmao
Wow, EDward Gaming really showed up! 🌟 Love the energy and the plays were insane! Makes me wonder how many more surprises we’ll get this season. And seriously, do we need more memes from this tourney? 😂 Can’t stop laughing! 🎮
Not even Noah had to carry as many animals in the ark as Aspas has to carry in the LEV and it's still not good for Bren, Aspas needs to want to be changed and open the bombsite like a noob for him to be satisfied, that's crazy...
Bren shit takes as usual
W take*
definitely the worst ep of platchat ive ever seen
oh no 😢😢
@@arvy7765 lmao
100 % with my boy Bren!!!
WARNING: NA Caster cries because the best player in the world is not from NA
He isn't even American and also, Americas as a whole includes Aspas so how does your take make sense?
@speedforce8970 NA is North America, Aspas from for the South America genius
@@rangelsoares4999 there is no NA or SA in VCT. Americas as a whole is NA + SA. So he's an Americas caster therefore it includes Aspas. Genius.
@@speedforce8970He is saying NA because aspas is from south america.
Don't matter the region, the guy is crying because he is not north american, because they are very xenophobic towards brazilians
@@Malam_NightYoru xenophobic after rating him number 1 in every list this year? Xenophobic when he literally said that Brazilian fans would agree with him and he loves Brazil. Yeahh you're delusional
Too little derke glaze in this video, you can make a genuine argument for him being THE BEST DUELIST if not THE BEST PLAYER of the franchising era. Trophies : the most, consistency? Insane. Good presenve in the team, great aggressive playmaking (watch any of his ranked vods and see how much creativity he has when let loose) S tier stats and S tier mechanics to top that off. Yes his stats weren't that insane in 2023 but it was hard to get insane frags on a team with prime Alfa, Leo and Chron
EDG the GOAT
Aspas is the best just accepted that
Bren não consegue ser nem o melhor caster e ataca o melhor jogador do mundo por ser Brasileiro, inveja mata, mas nortes americanos sempre inventam algo pra criticar um brasileiro, v s f. espero q esse cenário apodreça.
sim, ele tem pena do COM norte americano que não mata uma mosca, mas o problema é o aspas. ok f
@@fffbl8ELE TEM PENA DO INICIADOR LURKER TLGKKKKK
inscrição cancelada.
derke to sen im callng it
?? No lol. they have incredible players in every role and the only one they might change is sacy for a initatior and derke aint no initiator
HERETICS crash and burn next year is gonna hit so nice
random talking shit about aspas
If Aspas was american they wouldnt say such bullshits about him like this... They dont accept the fact the valorant goat is brazilian
It took 2 years for yay to fall off. For Aspas, it only takes one map… this community really sucks sometimes :(
@@cheesewater74You guys are fkin braindead 😂 You're so dedicated to glazing aspas you don't even realise how much he baited his whole team the entire year as their only duelist
@@cheesewater74also yay fell off after C9 aka the first game he played on DSG, it didn't take 2 years, it took like 2 months 😅 but just use racism as your defense I guess
@@arvy7765okay? I never said it was only reason (brasil being the most critical of his performance literally counteracts that). I just think it’s an interesting pattern to talk about, not just with yay, but with other NA duelists. If you don’t that’s fine too. (Also I only just got into vct recently and I still heard people calling yay the goat, if my times are off that’s my b)
@policarp0 this is a non sequitur. Anyone who has watched Plat Chat for more than 2 months knows how highly everyone ranks Aspas, and the Brazilians in the scene. All year, they have been singing the praises of Aspas and his impact (discussing the idea that he took Lev from consistently underperforming to elite, while also pointing out that Loud has struggled without his presence)
Hell, I’m sure everyone remembers the pedestal Furia was placed on last year after a single good match at the start of Split 1.
Anyone who’s followed Plat Chat for an actual length of time knows that this has nothing to do with Aspas being Brazilian. Bren and Sideshow have been the two biggest voices in the scene discussing the incredibly difficult isolating experience that has been VCT Americas for the Brazilian and Latam players.
Xuss is not turkish man. Polish players are so badly represnted in T1 that eggman autocorrectes his nationality
xeus is
How about you use your fkin brain? xuss and xeus are 2 different players. what's with all the bronze kids in the comment section today?
Your thinking of a different player bud, before u take shots at someone for getting something wrong don’t do the same thing lmao
@@joegallagher9238 fair, their names are said the same and I was overcome with a deep feeling of global underappreciation common for poles as soon as I wad denied the opporunity to type POLSKA MENTIONED in the comments.
@@michab3472 hahahaha understandable
If Aspas had been born a little further up on the American continent, there wouldn't be all this crying! Bren, think before omitting such stupid and unreasonable opinions. It's just disgusting.
Really? He and everyone in plat chat rated him number 1 player in every list. The entire year they sung his praises and now that he threw a grand finals spot, suddenly they hate Brazillians even though he literally said he loves Brazil
@@speedforce8970Yes, he "threw". The throwing for you is having a mid day.
Aspas is so good, when he has an okay game everyone says he threw. See the point? The norm for him is literally carrying that stupid initiator that baits entire team flanking.
C0M is a fraud, always was. I'm sorry for Tex that received undeserved hate for taking a role he never played, honestly Tex and Aspas are two of the best in americas.
yup, the people saying if "aspas was american there wouldnt be this take" are the worst
You gotta get rid of this Bren, he's a shit talking machine
Mimimimimimimimimimimimi: He talked, talked, talked, and in the end, said nothing. What a shitty opinion, what a failed reasoning from this Bren. He stuttered like crazy, his brain froze when he mentioned ASPAS.
Zellsis was the weakest player on sentinels whole year
he was better than sacy in kickoff, madrid and stage 2
Zellsis was the X factor for them to win icebox in Madrid but I do rate him the lowest consistently but he has high peaks and low lows
@@sleepking2565 Sacy was the X factor for them to win BIND.
Both were inconsistent but Sacy was more important in clutch situations without it they woulve lost to Loud ;)
can’t drop zellsis he’s too valuable as a voice in a team, every team he’s on is successful
@@HaydenDom I dont think they need to drop anyone to be successful again,
Just fix the issues, the communication, try not o put sacy in such a supportive role etc