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- Skip Bayless, Keyshawn Johnson and Rachel Nichols discuss New York Jets QB Aaron Rodgers, after former NFL MVP Kurt Warner proclaimed Rodgers needs to reach another Super Bowl to be considered amongst the greatest QBs in NFL History.
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I aint used to hearing Rachel talk football 😅
But she's a reporter tho
@rayyabdul2822 Still not used to hearing her talk football lol
She actually did football before basketball
Even more surprising is the fact that FS1 it's doing this convo based on what Kurt Warner said
She's a journalist she can talk anything
Keyshawn getting cooked by Rachel Nichols is INSANE 😳
If this was basketball it would just be a normal day but she cooking him on football the sport he played lol.
He is just a very low IQ individual 🤷🏽♂️. Talented but his brain does not brain correctly@@RonJP-pm7jp
I don’t get what Keyshawn is even trying to alude to. Rodgers isn’t even close to Mahomes let alone Brady
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@@orlys54 he's talking a bunch of nothing, he's literally saying Rodgers winning a title this year won't mean he's the greatest but it will put him in the conversation 😂. Then gonna say "it's new York" like anybody cares about the Jets
Keyshawn is literally arguing just to argue. No one is saying Aaron isn't a great QB, but in no way is he close to being the greatest, Rachel schooled him
He keeps saying "I'm not saying that, I'm not saying that" SO IRRITATING, so what ARE you saying Keyshawn??? Either he IS or ISN'T!!! Definitely arguing just to argue.
I guarantee that If he never were a jet, he'd never be sour against us.
Rachel also out here bringing up Johnny U talking he 10 ten all time look at the "numbers" 😂
All she did was interrupt him. Rodgers is a top 6 all time qb.
To act like he isnt
What do you think the point of this show is???
Put Racheal on full time if possible. She really knows her stuff
John Elway has 2 rings and appeared in 3 more super bowls, and he’s not even mentioned 😢
That's because they pick and choose when Super Bowls matter meanwhile Super Bowl of shouldn't even be counted when talking about who was a better player because it takes an entire team to win a Superbowl and it's a lot easier when Super Bowl is when you got top-notch defensive built by Bill Belichick year after year after year
He never threw for more than 30 TDs ever, dan Marino from his own draft class is better
@landonsalmonsen1273 it's about what you can do in the post season not what you can do in the regular season John elway had more super bowls an that's a fact
He wasn’t a great super bowl performer. Most overrated QB of all time
@@landonsalmonsen1273 that makes elway look even better than Rodger’s Never threw for 30 but still got 2 rings and 5 appearances
I'll say it like this: Patrick Mahomes has had the career that everybody back in the late 2000s thought Aaron would have. Patrick is like a upgraded clutch version of Aaron Rodgers. Aaron is at worst the 2nd greatest passer that ever played. He is up there with Dan Marino, Sonny Jurgensen and Bobby Lane. But that's where his rank in the GOAT convo ends. He is at best a Top 7 all-time QB, at worst a Top 12 all-timer because he doesn't have the championships. Another SB win might put him over Elway but that's his absoulte ceiling. I doubt he'll win it all ever again. Nonetheless, he gave me some of the happiest moments of my life.
😂😂😂 what a moronic statement
If he gets two more he’s ahead of manning for sure
Rodger’s top 4. Brady mahomes mannning Rodger’s . Rings is more so a team thing . Rodger’s tho as a talent is arguably the greatest ever as well . Other than mahomes
@@ajhenning9175you put Rodgers over Montana?
He'll never catch: Tom, Mahomes, Montana, Manning
Elway and Bradshaw
@@kentonpegus3642elway got 2 super bowls calm down he still got a chance dont no other qb have 4 MVPs but Rodgers he get 1 more superbowl he already pass elway 😂💯
He won't catch Terry Bradshaw.....
@@EnijaiRoundtree
Nobody cares about regular season awards it's what you do in playoffs mostly and Rodgers 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record a playoff game CHOKER
John Elway 10 tds and 4 ints and 5-1 in AFC championship games
Elway 2 rings, 5 superbowl appearances better Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl appearance
John Elway has a league mvp already
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps way better Quarterback all time then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp never winning another a playoff game CHOKER
5 NFC championship games
Aaron Rodgers 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record that's bad
Mahomes 3 rings, 3 superbowl mvps in 6 seasons already better Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
🥱
Agreed I’m also taking Big Ben over Rodger’s just imo
Rachel destroying Key in this topic is funny. Lol
"Aaron Rodgers is 40 years-old and plays for the New York Jets." 💀
Please get rid of Keyshawn yesterday!!!
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Nope keep Keyshawn Johnson he's best part of this t rash show
@@StoneCold2k57Exactly
Rachel tore up Keyshawn lmaoo
She always do tbh 😂
😂💯
She just repeats everything that everyone else says
Yoooo Rachel just killed Keyshawn. She knows her football. Keyshawn trying to cut her off and over talk her is hilarious 💯
Keyshawn, u doing bad on football now, Rachel, cooking you on FOOTBALL
😂😂😂
She doesn't know anything about football 😂
😂😂😂😭😭
That ship has sailed long time ago. He's not even Top 4 over Brady, Mahomes, Montana, Manning.
He's better than them all
@GODISGREAT_12 😂😂😂😂
Don't get me wrong. AR os definitely top 10 qb all time
But to say that os just outrageous...
@@danielclare1426no it's not. The numbers and film don't lie
@@GODISGREAT_12 The numbers and the film don't lie in the post season either.
He's better then Peyton montana
KEYSHAUN “IM NOT SAYING THAT” JOHNSON
Keyshawn takes are gonna take this whole show down
Lmao
She's the only one up there whose opinion matters he played the f00kin sport, if you gave Aaron Rodgers all of those top Bill Belichick built defenses he would have the same amount of rings as Tom Brady if not more y'all need to wake up and smell reality Super Bowls are won by teams not quarterbacks. Yall really acting like this st00pid b107ch right, Just because you agree with her that's hilarious
Yall stay saying he needs to listen to paul because paul knows bball, Well y'all got to listen to him because he knows football, keep the same energy or shut the f00k up
Captain cap
his takes are actually WORSE than Skip's and that saying a lot
He's lost too many NFC Championships games in Lambeau to be considered a GOAT. Just my opinion.
Not completely his fault. The rest of the team werent great. Especially the defense and special team.
He did the best but he never got the ball back when the defense let the other team score.
A lot of those games were only as close as it was cuz Rodgers played like the GOAT he is.
I can't believe I just got a notification, with the words Aaron Rodgers and goat in the same sentence??????
4 MVPs ain’t bad
This is the death rattle of undisputed.
It’s Convo not calling him the Goat
He is a future HOF!
Who else is the GOAT? Look at the numbers and film
even if he wins it, he's not in the conversation
He's been the GOAT
@@GODISGREAT_12 too many Ls in big games to be the GOAT that is why they question lebron and he still has 4 rings and 10 finals appearances. Have you forgotten how many times he had the 1st and 2nd seed and lost to a worse team? That is arguably why they fired Mike McCarthy because they put the blame on him and he’s had 3 more MVP seasons and still hasn’t won another. Again not even in the conversation. Arm talent he’s top 5 no question but arguably the biggest choker of the other qualifiers
The lions knocked him out of playoffs his last year in GB lol
@@jusbertmeza4424 why did he get knocked out in those games? Is it because of his play? Or is it because his defence was lacking?
@@jusbertmeza4424EXACTLY
Rachel never mention Unitas in the same sentence as Rodgers
No one also mentioned other early all time great QBs like Otto Graham, Sammy Baugh, Sid Luckett, Norm Van Brocklin, & others with several championships.
She didn’t. You misunderstood.
Why Keyshawn laugh like a dolphin at 12:41 😂😂
Omg 😂
Broooo!😂😂😂 Im what kinda laugh is that Key??!!😅
Rodgers is the most overrated. He had one fluke SB run. Other than that he's a choke artist. Biggest waste of talent ever. Green Bay had back to back legends and only got two chips.
Facts
Keyshawn knows less than Rachel its getting hella sad this guy has got to go
You're foolish if you think this lady knows more than an actual NFL veteran...
@@GODISGREAT_12
On this subject Rachel Nichols knows more football 🏈 then Keyshawn Johnson stay mad
@@GODISGREAT_12
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps way better Quarterback all time then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp never winning another a playoff game CHOKER
5 NFC championship games
Aaron Rodgers 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record that's bad
Mahomes 3 rings, 3 superbowl mvps in 6 seasons already better Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
🥱
@@OverDog-hw1rzRachel and Skip don't know anything about football. Reason why Aaron is better
This segment proved that Rachel was a better football player than Keyshawn👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Where does Terry Bradshaw fall in all of this
John Elway, Dan Marino, Brady, P.Manning, Mahomes, Montana all before AR. I’ve seen them all play.
You've never seen a football game in your life
@GODISGREAT_12 neither have you
@@matthewwilliams4168 I've seen quite a few actually. Do you understand the game?
Brady and Mahomes are the only ones in the convo. This is laughable to talk about😂
Only ones? Bro you know who Montana is? Lmaooo
Mahomes is not in the conversation
@bigman7570 Oh he's getting there lol
Manning played that position better than anyone
@@1inchpunisher715 Before his time, so he gets disrespected and omitted
Key stay interrupting someone like dude you had you take shut up
Embarrassing That Rachel Bodied A Football Segment Over Key . Fire Buddy
Keyshawn has absolutely no clue what he’s talking about.
GOAT of what? Underachieving with MVP's 😂
Choking.
Keyshawn makes no sense.....admits that arod is no where near Brady or mahomes in the debate and proceeds to say he's closer to Josh Allen, and then argues that he's still in the goat conversation🤦♂️
Yeah I didn't get that either because he's usually trashing josh and burrow 😂😂
It amazes me that skip says 11-10 in the playoffs but never say anything about his defense giving up 30+points in playoff loses
2022 NFC playoffs
49ers 13 Packers 10
Aaron Rodgers 0 td passes CHOKED after defense carried him
2023 NFL Superbowl
Chiefs 38 Eagles 35
Patrick Mahomes 3 tds and 0 ints and 131.8 passer rating
Rodgers CHOKED lost a home playoff game after defense gave up 13 points and Mahomes CLUTCH won superbowl game after defense gave up 35 points
Mahomes 3 rings, 3 superbowl mvps already better Quarterback all time then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps way better Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp
5 NFC championship games
Aaron Rodgers 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record a playoff game CHOKER
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
Aaron Rodgers most OVERRATED Quarterback in NFL history bunch of excuses for his playoff failures
It's sad that we gotta measure who's better over SuperBowl Wins when it's a TEAM effort. Lol
These people don't understand.... football is not tennis
Thats what im saying.
It wasnt Rodgers fault the Packers defense and special team blew the games.
It was cuz of Rodgers the game were so close by one score.
If we talking about a singular player, we gotta compare that to singular player stats. So that comes down to just an overall QB. Not rings, not championships… just purely as a QB.
Rodgers is the GOAT at that above Brady.
There is a reason people say “dont leave too much time on the clock for Rodgers”
He’s the free play king. The hail mary king.
His pinpoint accuracy is ridiculous.
Rodgers is THE GOAT. I said what I said. Don’t @ me.
Key sounds so dumb😂
It depends on the criteria. Rodgers, Stafford, Wilson, Brees, Flacco, Foles. They all have one ring. He has one ring in 18 years.
Stafford is different tho he was with the lions only a 2 show and Wilson has been to 2 super bowls 😂 Rodgers just chokes every year
Keyshawn you lost your take is stupid
Skip: "He was pretty good in that Super Bowl." He led the team to the Super Bowl, and had better stats than Peyton Manning had in any of his Super Bowls for sure.
The Steelers D that year was ranked #1 in the league. I’m pretty sure I’ve read that his play in that game is one of the best SB performances ever.
@@Ryan-zt2xw These media people are just now picking on Rodgers because he doesn't suck up to Democrats like LeBron and Steph. Yeah, Rodgers isn't Brady, Montana or Mahomes, but other than that, he's as good as anybody in history.
Your mvp and your putting him with stafford absolutely insane
But somehow Dan Marino is there make it make sense 🤣
They don't make any sense at all...
@@GODISGREAT_12 people never put his playoff career into context bro is 2nd all time in playoff TD passes and having to carry the burden of a historically bad defense
@@Sheldenn98 they have to ignore context. Otherwise it's blindingly obvious that Aaron Rodgers is the greatest ever...
Key is one of those people that just can not concede or admit they’re wrong in any way lmao
Keyshawn is the worst hater on sports TV. He'd take Rodgers at 40 coming off an achilles, over Joe Burrow who went to the superbowl in his first full year and made it to the AFC championship game the very next year. Burrows had a bad oline, but hes without question better than Rodgers right now. Not saying career, but right now every GM in the league would take Burrow over Rodgers in the blink of an eye. Keyshawn=Certified Hater
The Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady comparison is the personification of the saying, “Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard.”
Tom Brady's argument for Patrick Mahomes debate is that " I handed Mahome's his first season loss, first playoff loss, and first super bowl lost" Mahomes can never come back from 😂😂
Jake Plummer 3-0 regular season and 1-0 in the playoffs.
12:40 laugh from Key, TF was that? LOL
The GOAT debate in football is OVER and cannot be debated again until a QB has at least 5 rings. Sorry but that is the standard Tom has set
Doesn't make sense. It's a team game
Keyshawns intro had me dying 😂😂
Nobody has gotten more breaks that Tom Brady. Lol Spygate, tuck rule, and his first 3 SB’s the defense was the driving force. Imagine a QB winning a SB throwing 1 TD the entire playoff run.
The man has 7 and you’re trying to make some conversation that goes against him, just stop it. Once you get passed 5 rings, theres nothing to take With from that anymore lmao.
just let it go man its ok
@@reem9317Naw that's a bad rebuttal.
Spy gate was apart of Tom Brady progression his first 7 seasons... It's most likely his progression as a QB was unnatural seeing how he went from pretty much a smart QB to Peyton Manning like when it comes to dissecting defense due.
While the most QB's had natural progression for most of their careers.
Finally some football talk
Rachel running laps around Joe Johnson today.
2:04 "He can't catch Tom Brady. He ain't gon catch Patrick Mahomes." That goes for literally every quarterback in the league, not just Rodgers.
He’s about 5-7 right now in All-Time Best QB
Key gotta stop interrupting people
Keyshawn needs to go.
He has a Super Bowl ring my guy😂😂😂
They act like he's never won
He’s a slightly more talented, but less likable, Dan Marino. In no way is he even in the GOAT convo. Would need 2+ more SBs to do that.
Your crazy
Less likable? Sheesh, you can't even think for yourself. The media controls your mind I see. Dan Marino didn't win a Super Bowl and doesn't have 4 MVPs last time I checked. Not to mention, his TD/INT ratio is the GOAT.
What about John Elway???
Keyshawn is literally arguing why Aaron Rodgers deserves to be in a conversation with people like John Elway Tom Brady, like what are you talking about dude?
The rodgers disrespect is insane
Most overrated stiff in history
Guy underachieved every year in playoffs stop
The more I listen to Skip Bayless the more I understand why this show will probably be off the air by next year. He’s just an old curmudgeon at this point and I think the world is finally just sick and tired of him being a hater.
He's made his whole career of hating..
@@GODISGREAT_12 yeah but I think it’s about played out🤷🏾♂️
@@andremurria3483 it was played out years ago. He's just senile at this point
@@GODISGREAT_12 agreed
We put way to much stock in superbowl wins as s defining factor. Qbs dont play defense
They don't understand football
Aaron Rodgers played Quarterback and he's bad in NFC championship games and 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record so try again
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings, 5 superbowl mvps way better Quarterback all time then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp never winning another a playoff game CHOKER
5 NFC championship games
Aaron Rodgers 9 tds and 8 ints and 1-4 losing record that's bad
Mahomes 3 rings, 3 superbowl mvps in 6 seasons already better Quarterback then Rodgers 1 ring, 1 superbowl mvp
Greatest Quarterbacks all time
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Patrick Mahomes
4. Peyton Manning
5. John Elway
🥱
That's why it's team football. What they're trying to say is people put too much attention to the QB like Patrick. But like you said, it takes a team and a defense to win a Superbowl.
@@OverDog-hw1rz you just gone copy and paste your life away huh?
People forget it's a team sport if you based it on pure talent he definitely deserves to be in the conversation
Finally a logical response
Put some respect on Terry Bradshaw
😂
My top 10 greatest QBs of all time
1) Brady
2) Montana
3) P. Manning
4) Mahomes
5) Unitas
6) Rodgers
7) Brees
8) Marino
9) Elway
10) Young
🤢🤮🤮🤮
Ben rosthowberger is much better than rodgers
Good job Rachel skip just came in messing it up smh
Not a Jets fan, but every time Aaron Rodgers starts getting thrown under by these guys, somehow he always comes back with something to prove.
And then doesn't prove it... he's in the same conference as Patrick Mahomes... he's about to learn real quick how he wasted his career
Rodgers isn’t close to Peyton. Peyton actually beat Brady in the playoffs
Rodgers isn't even on Mount Rushmore anymore. Brady, Montana, Mahomes, and Manning. Rodgers is def top 5, though.
Bro Drew Brees exists
@@LxrdBxni Brees has never won an MVP
@Ryan-zt2xw ik but they lied on him too many times like Matt Ryan got one cmon bro
Elway is 3rd Peyton is 4th
😂😂😂 Aaron is the best
I don’t think she understands that getting into a Super Bowl is hard lol
Damn no T. Bradshaw
Nah.
@@CarbinKid he does have 4 rings
@terrillford7784 I'm not disputing that... The Steel curtain is responsible for that. From what I've seen, he made so e throws, but the defense won those. Yes, he was there, and he did his job, but overwhelmingly, it was the defense
@@CarbinKidI agree
Everyone missed what the statement was. Among the greats, not the greatest. It turned into a GOAT conversation. Key was right, and Rachel took it a different way.
The Aaron Rodgers slander has gone too far. We saw what he did every Sunday for 13 years
I really love Rachel Nichols!! I could watch her all day discussing football. ❤
1:06 a participant when he has a 50+ TD season!? 😂
For fun let’s just call Aaron Rodger’s the greatest, then we can all have a good laugh.
Keyshawn does not remember that Peyton Manning has 5 Regular season MVP'S
Rachel not understanding the goat conversations she just talkin pure goat
Taking Aaron over Cool Joe is diabolical work
If Mahomes pulls off the 3-peat that gives him 4 SBs in 6 years, he definitely makes a strong argument over Brady.
Agree with Rachel’s point but the way she’s going about it a little too McNutts
Based on Rachel's take. This question that was asked is pointless.
A lot of people seem to forget that super bowls are a team achievement. When we talk about the greatest in other positions it's not talked about nearly as much. Aaron Rodgers wasn't always perfect but he was let down by his team and coaching staff a lot more than Brady ever was. And that's not taking anything from Brady, this is just another way to look at it that the media seems to ignore.
Dan Marino never won a superbowl still one of the best
She says "Aaron has 4 MVPs but Peyton has 5." Excuse me, I believe tom has THREE😂😂
Keyshawn gettin baked by Rachel...hahaha!
I love that Skip has Rachel talking Football man
Keyshawn needs to stop talking 😂😂😂
“There at it again, there doing nothing” 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Rachel over achieving at work covering football now 😳
You cant say Rodgers is on the same level as Allen, Stafford and Burrow.... and then not include Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino and so on lmao
Keyshawn is supposed to know football and he’s so clueless
The fact that Drew Breese doesn’t even get mentioned when talking about all time greats is pure insanity.
Someone has to make sure Rachel Nichols doesn’t appear anymore on this show. So annoying to listen to. She dismisses everything Key is trying to say.
Rodgers over Burrow is blasphemy 😂😂😂
Rachel was right but I understood where key was coming from
He needs to win another Superbowl to be considered one of the all time greats
The fact that keyshawn mentioned 5 playoff win having philip rivers in 18 years shows he just doesn't know.
We need more Rachel 😅 on the show!!
i think he's a super hero for his stance against indiscriminate jabs
Skip sucks. He repeats the same thing about Rodgers everytime