As a person who read the seven books of Alatriste (Because the movie is an adaptation) i have to say some things: First, Alatriste never was a captain, he is just nicknamed that way because of his military experience. second, the battle of Rocroi isn't propaganda, it's just one of the best infantery units of the world fighting to their death, as it happened in the real battle. Third, Breda, if i remember correctly, wasn't sacked since after the siege, only the catholic people there remained. Fourth, Why is the guy under alatriste's command trying to steal the gold, a metaphor? fifth,the noble Alatriste had fought with, was the count of Guadalmedina, and, in the books, he is not attacked for attacking him, but because Gualterio Malatesta (Someone very important in the booka YOU ignore for no reason) was hired, alongside other guys to kill Alatriste. fifth, about the catholic critique you seemed to see, i think you just made that up. six, dude, just read the books, they are not very big, just 300 pages each, it's not that hard, because you obviously didn't read the books.
sadly this TH-camr passed away in Nov 2019. Thank you for all the memories as a friend. Its great to hear your voice and analytical thinking in these videos. RIP DLE
This film is sadly underappreciated, probably due to the fact it isn't widely available on the international market. But it's still one of the best period pieces I've seen in years and I always enjoy going back and giving it a watch.
I think the final battle is mostly used to showcase that despite the corruption, despite the religious zeal and fear, despite all the troubles Spain is going through, there are still Men out there. Real Men, who are brave, loyal, discreet, and trustworthy. Especially the moment right after the negotiations, when Alatriste says his goodbyes. They will keep going. Far beyond what ordinary men will tolerate. If they can't speak, someone else will speak fór them. If they can't walk, they will lean on the man next to them. And only when the body shouts:"NO MORE!", do they shut down, but never give up. The snazzyness of the battle is but a pathway to the emotional delivery that comes after.
So it's only ok to sneak a patriotic scene in your movie when you're American? The Spanish Empire dominated more land and sea at the time than any other empire in history.
Patriotism, American or Spanish was and is used by the Great whore of Babylon: the Roman Catholic Church. It is one of the ways she has manipulated and ruled thru skullduggery.
Yeah, its kinda jarred me when he shit on, probably the best recreation of 15th Century Tercios combat. FYI Sharky boi, this was and I think Spains most expensinve film they invested in,MAIN reason was because of their promise to recreate the Battle of Rocroi. Watch an interviw of the Director and Viggo, they discussed that no matter how the movie was written, it was all goin to rest on Rocroi. Also Spanish Tercios are Chads, this comes from a Mexican by the way.
With respect to the film, its narrative and jumps, people tend to forget that the movie is a compressed picture of 6 novels written by Arturo Pérez-Reverte.
I liked the final battle of Rocroi. It's really about the spirit of the elite tercios, and really shows the swagger, despite being poorly led. The final 2 tercios were offered terms, the first surrendered, the 2nd (Albaqueuque's) did not intially, but took another charge before accepting. Alatriste dies in the vanguard but Inigo survives in the rearguard to write down the tale. Like many scenes, it's also a painting, el ultimo tercio by Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau.
Ooohhh boooiii !!! You really messed up here. No hate or hard feelings but either you went by straight TH-cam subtitles or you had 0 Hispanic assistance in your analysis. I will just point out some of your bigger mistakes but no sir no Spanish speaker will believe your analysis. 1 The movie is not a glorification of the Spanish Empire is rather a movie film trying to depict the reality of it in its worst and the best the opulent reality they livid in with gold coming from all the empire their military might at the time their development of arts etc and wars, the disparity the bad nobility the treatment of the veterans such as Capitán Alatriste who complains about it the whole movie but in a very depicted way complains with loyalty. Alatriste is a loyal man and the movie does great effort in emphasizing that. Since you pointed out that the movie was about glorification why didn’t you put the real intro? That was the most glorification moment of the whole movie. The ambush scene was totally misunderstood or you wanted to misinterpret it, The whole point of that scene was depicting the quality and loyalty of the man at the time also depicted in their devotions for rules and respect throughout whole film. The gold belonged to the king who didn’t report it and wanted it all to himself. The main mission was to recover it and you totally twisted the scene of the bodega Alatriste said before the scene “ and nobody absolutely nobody will go down to the bodega” because they knew what was inside it. When told about the hit they told them didn’t you see that part? About Iñigo that’s another one you got incredibly wrong, you absolutely again ignored the conflict for the actress who was Alatristes lover and was taken from him by the king which basically started the animosity between them and eventually the punishment. Forgot the love aspect , the Cold War aspect between Spain and everyone else. The interpretation of the inquisition being a hard order but with the best interest of Spain at mind which is why most characters involved question alatristes decision of not killing the British men, etc 0 para ti muchacho which if you are in America means F big F player watch again. Pay attention and. Do a 2nd video to redeem yourself.
0:33. Well, if it lasted for that many years while being completelly outnumbered and mixing with other major conflicts such as the 30 years war and the Portuguese restoration war so I would say It went pretty well
Although Viggo sounds like he's drunk in this role haha the film is pretty good and with beautiful cinematography, to be fair Viggo sounds like he's drunk in most films and languages. Not to mention the soundtrack is phenomenal!!
I'm Cuban. I read Pérez-Reverte's novels, the ones the movie's based on, and they are fascinating. Loved the review. Also love finding small channels that do smart, modest things like these reviews. Best of luck!
Hi! I've never saw an analysis of this movie outside of Spain. Yes, the movie is quite patriotic but also represents how the average peasant live inside the empire as a normal "siervo". You got my like!
It's good to take any "Anglo" analysis of Spain or Spanish culture with a grain of salt. Oh by the way the Battle of Rocroi was included because **SPOILER ALERT** he dies there, it's in the books, and it's not because of Spanish gov imposition. Really an idiotic take.
9:10. Keep in mind, that this is set in Catholic Spain, where religion was best left to the clergy. Even if a man like Alatriste had an opinion on religious matters, he would be wise to keep his mouth shut or he could be charged with heresy, which was bad for your health. In any case, Catholicism allows for people to just go through with the formalities of religion without giving it much thought. As long as he goes to confession once in a while, he doesn't need to think about theology at all.
A Yankee , an Anglo , being mad that a movie shows a Patriotic scene about how a Hispanic nation is awesome , what a big shocker .Totally not an inherent hatred towards an ethnicity there . You do not see me bitching and moaning about how scenes in Band of Brothers where the characters are being heroic are bad , even if I hate their country .
Thanks for the review 🙂. For what it's worth, I didn't think the battle (battles) tried to glorify the Spanish Empire, rather I saw it as another indictment: how society takes men like Alatriste (men who are strong, brave and honorable - the exact men you need if you want to have a functional society) and uses them up until they're no longer convenient and discards them, all in the name of power games played by other men who are inferior in every way 🫤
As a person who read the seven books of Alatriste (Because the movie is an adaptation) i have to say some things:
First, Alatriste never was a captain, he is just nicknamed that way because of his military experience.
second, the battle of Rocroi isn't propaganda, it's just one of the best infantery units of the world fighting to their death, as it happened in the real battle.
Third, Breda, if i remember correctly, wasn't sacked since after the siege, only the catholic people there remained.
Fourth, Why is the guy under alatriste's command trying to steal the gold, a metaphor?
fifth,the noble Alatriste had fought with, was the count of Guadalmedina, and, in the books, he is not attacked for attacking him, but because Gualterio Malatesta (Someone very important in the booka YOU ignore for no reason) was hired, alongside other guys to kill Alatriste.
fifth, about the catholic critique you seemed to see, i think you just made that up.
six, dude, just read the books, they are not very big, just 300 pages each, it's not that hard, because you obviously didn't read the books.
sadly this TH-camr passed away in Nov 2019.
Thank you for all the memories as a friend.
Its great to hear your voice and analytical thinking in these videos.
RIP DLE
where did you hear that?
@@CuteFuzzyWeasel I knew him irl
@@eduedu7986 What happend? :(
This film is sadly underappreciated, probably due to the fact it isn't widely available on the international market. But it's still one of the best period pieces I've seen in years and I always enjoy going back and giving it a watch.
did you watch it in english or spanish?
@@strikingmachine2975 I found a copy in the original Spanish with English subs on TH-cam.
You are right this is an obscured gem
I think the final battle is mostly used to showcase that despite the corruption, despite the religious zeal and fear, despite all the troubles Spain is going through, there are still Men out there. Real Men, who are brave, loyal, discreet, and trustworthy. Especially the moment right after the negotiations, when Alatriste says his goodbyes. They will keep going. Far beyond what ordinary men will tolerate. If they can't speak, someone else will speak fór them. If they can't walk, they will lean on the man next to them. And only when the body shouts:"NO MORE!", do they shut down, but never give up. The snazzyness of the battle is but a pathway to the emotional delivery that comes after.
Exactly. Well said!
As someone who read the books (Because the movie is an adaptation) the battle of Rocroi is just there, BECAUSE IT'S THE DEATH OF ALATRISTE
Bro , the Religious Zeal is a positive
So it's only ok to sneak a patriotic scene in your movie when you're American? The Spanish Empire dominated more land and sea at the time than any other empire in history.
Patriotism, American or Spanish was and is used by the Great whore of Babylon: the Roman Catholic Church. It is one of the ways she has manipulated and ruled thru skullduggery.
Yeah, its kinda jarred me when he shit on, probably the best recreation of 15th Century Tercios combat. FYI Sharky boi, this was and I think Spains most expensinve film they invested in,MAIN reason was because of their promise to recreate the Battle of Rocroi. Watch an interviw of the Director and Viggo, they discussed that no matter how the movie was written, it was all goin to rest on Rocroi. Also Spanish Tercios are Chads, this comes from a Mexican by the way.
Mongol empire at it's peak had happened before and was bigger than the Spanish empire.
And they were genocidal piece of shit mother fuckers.
With respect to the film, its narrative and jumps, people tend to forget that the movie is a compressed picture of 6 novels written by Arturo Pérez-Reverte.
I just watched it in its entirety on youtube and was really blown away.
Spaniards patiently waiting for a movie about their country that doesn’t unfairly portray them as the most backwards and cruel people in europe.
I liked the final battle of Rocroi. It's really about the spirit of the elite tercios, and really shows the swagger, despite being poorly led. The final 2 tercios were offered terms, the first surrendered, the 2nd (Albaqueuque's) did not intially, but took another charge before accepting. Alatriste dies in the vanguard but Inigo survives in the rearguard to write down the tale. Like many scenes, it's also a painting, el ultimo tercio by Augusto Ferrer-Dalmau.
Ooohhh boooiii !!! You really messed up here. No hate or hard feelings but either you went by straight TH-cam subtitles or you had 0 Hispanic assistance in your analysis. I will just point out some of your bigger mistakes but no sir no Spanish speaker will believe your analysis.
1 The movie is not a glorification of the Spanish Empire is rather a movie film trying to depict the reality of it in its worst and the best the opulent reality they livid in with gold coming from all the empire their military might at the time their development of arts etc and wars, the disparity the bad nobility the treatment of the veterans such as Capitán Alatriste who complains about it the whole movie but in a very depicted way complains with loyalty. Alatriste is a loyal man and the movie does great effort in emphasizing that. Since you pointed out that the movie was about glorification why didn’t you put the real intro? That was the most glorification moment of the whole movie.
The ambush scene was totally misunderstood or you wanted to misinterpret it, The whole point of that scene was depicting the quality and loyalty of the man at the time also depicted in their devotions for rules and respect throughout whole film. The gold belonged to the king who didn’t report it and wanted it all to himself. The main mission was to recover it and you totally twisted the scene of the bodega Alatriste said before the scene “ and nobody absolutely nobody will go down to the bodega” because they knew what was inside it. When told about the hit they told them didn’t you see that part?
About Iñigo that’s another one you got incredibly wrong, you absolutely again ignored the conflict for the actress who was Alatristes lover and was taken from him by the king which basically started the animosity between them and eventually the punishment.
Forgot the love aspect , the Cold War aspect between Spain and everyone else. The interpretation of the inquisition being a hard order but with the best interest of Spain at mind which is why most characters involved question alatristes decision of not killing the British men, etc
0 para ti muchacho which if you are in America means F big F player watch again. Pay attention and. Do a 2nd video to redeem yourself.
anglo america, que en el resto de america se conocen bien las luces y sombra de la vieja madre patria.
It took me 30 years to discover this movie's masterpiece. Just because is Spanish, not american. But thanks for your analyze.
I really appreciate that you leave out the super dark side story of Alatriste's love interest.
That was really heartbreaking.
sacking of breda? please show evidence for this
He cant for two reasons
1.- Is a lie
2.- he is dead since 2019
I think you really misinterpreted the message behind this movie as some pro-spanish propaganda when it's quite literally the opposite
0:33. Well, if it lasted for that many years while being completelly outnumbered and mixing with other major conflicts such as the 30 years war and the Portuguese restoration war so I would say It went pretty well
Although Viggo sounds like he's drunk in this role haha the film is pretty good and with beautiful cinematography, to be fair Viggo sounds like he's drunk in most films and languages. Not to mention the soundtrack is phenomenal!!
I'm Cuban. I read Pérez-Reverte's novels, the ones the movie's based on, and they are fascinating. Loved the review. Also love finding small channels that do smart, modest things like these reviews. Best of luck!
Hi! I've never saw an analysis of this movie outside of Spain. Yes, the movie is quite patriotic but also represents how the average peasant live inside the empire as a normal "siervo". You got my like!
The battle of Rocroi wasn't about the glorification of the government, but of the honor of ordinary soldiers dutiful to the end.
It's good to take any "Anglo" analysis of Spain or Spanish culture with a grain of salt. Oh by the way the Battle of Rocroi was included because **SPOILER ALERT** he dies there, it's in the books, and it's not because of Spanish gov imposition. Really an idiotic take.
Imagine current Spanish government impositions painting our glorious empire in a good light.
@@Cartafilo_XXIthey do pretty much the opposite 😂
@@Fidi-h3b Indeed, such dark times we live in with all that "historic memory" going around, rewriting our history.
The 1600's was the most warlike century in human history.
Helion Books call it the Century of the Soldier. So we'll put. I loved this movie. Viggo was perfectly cast.
“Even though this ending wasnt my PB&J……” sorry it didnt end with flowers and butterflies, you fairy😂😂
This was good, I hope one day, you get back into this.
Apparently he passed away.
Great analysis. I loved this movie. Do Point Breal 1991 next!
I meant point break 1991
9:10. Keep in mind, that this is set in Catholic Spain, where religion was best left to the clergy. Even if a man like Alatriste had an opinion on religious matters, he would be wise to keep his mouth shut or he could be charged with heresy, which was bad for your health. In any case, Catholicism allows for people to just go through with the formalities of religion without giving it much thought. As long as he goes to confession once in a while, he doesn't need to think about theology at all.
Good realism and story but cgi can be a bit offputting at times
Hello! Great work gamer!
A Yankee , an Anglo , being mad that a movie shows a Patriotic scene about how a Hispanic nation is awesome , what a big shocker .Totally not an inherent hatred towards an ethnicity there .
You do not see me bitching and moaning about how scenes in Band of Brothers where the characters are being heroic are bad , even if I hate their country .
18? its 16-17 you morron
great work, gamer! keep it up!
Amazing film but very boring at times.Great review thanks.
Thanks for the review 🙂.
For what it's worth, I didn't think the battle (battles) tried to glorify the Spanish Empire, rather I saw it as another indictment: how society takes men like Alatriste (men who are strong, brave and honorable - the exact men you need if you want to have a functional society) and uses them up until they're no longer convenient and discards them, all in the name of power games played by other men who are inferior in every way 🫤