What I meant by a "small adjustment" is making sure that the bottom plate is seated completely and evenly; also that the cut marks on the plate line up exactly with those on the casing. For proper seating, I firmly press with my fingers evenly all around the circumference of the plate. Also, as you screw on the bottom cover, the cover will help push the bottom plate into place. So it is importance to screw on the bottom cover firmly, even if you back it off a hair at the end.
The F and Eb trumpet of the 19th century played in the same range as the modern Bb and C trumpets, in spite of their longer tube length. They played in the upper partials, like a French horn, and they were fingured that way. A C scale from written middle C: 0-1-0-1-0-1/2-2-0,
could you please enclose a pic of the MP. I had an old Eb fanfare MP bought in Munich with a cornet. It had a sharp turnover from the kettle to the "bore". I have on my WenzlMeinl rotary C valvetrombone a similar but bigger MP. The valves are conical, press fittings like on your trumpet and clockwork encapsulated springs.
The mouthpiece was much like a modern trumpet mouthpiece. On the demo recording I used a mouthpiece with deep elliptical cup. But the shank is the same as a modern trumpet mouthpiece shank, and I use the same mouthpiece on a modern Bb rotary valve trumpet.
No the valves are not conical. I play a demonstration of this trumpet in a video on my channel (jwhill7) called "F trumpet demo." In the video, this is "trumpet number 1." I have two long Eb trumpets from the same era and several short-form F trumpets that I plan to offer on eBay.
If anyone here would help me, I'd really appreciate it! I have a Lidl rotary valve alto trumpet which I love to play. Unfortunately, I broke a valve spring. I can't find a replacement spring. If anyone knows where I can get a replacement flat spring for one of these trumpets, please reply. Thanks!!!
The Brass and Woodwind Shop has a YT video, How to Replace Internal Springs on a Rotary Trumpet. They got new flat coiled springs from The Clock Works in Schenectady, NY.
+Eli Gutierrez You might need to use a somewhat lighter oil, such as a commercial preparation specially designated for rotary valves. Those oils come in various weights. The basic principle is that you should use the heaviest oil that does not slow down the valve action. Except for really modern instruments, rotary valves traditionally relied on the oil to complete the air seal, because the rotors did not actually touch or rub against the cylinder walls. If 3-in-1 slows down your valves, then try a regular rotary valve oil.
It's an Alto Trumpet. The Rotary Valves make it easier to play w/ precision.
It has Rotary Valves just like a French Horn
Thank you for the F trumpet scales,goes very high.
I've one alto rotary trumpet (Eb) by Joseph Lidl and lovet !!!! Your seams very good. Many thanks for this video 😜
What I meant by a "small adjustment" is making sure that the bottom plate is seated completely and evenly; also that the cut marks on the plate line up exactly with those on the casing. For proper seating, I firmly press with my fingers evenly all around the circumference of the plate. Also, as you screw on the bottom cover, the cover will help push the bottom plate into place. So it is importance to screw on the bottom cover firmly, even if you back it off a hair at the end.
thanks a lot!!!!
The F and Eb trumpet of the 19th century played in the same range as the modern Bb and C trumpets, in spite of their longer tube length. They played in the upper partials, like a French horn, and they were fingured that way. A C scale from written middle C: 0-1-0-1-0-1/2-2-0,
could you please enclose a pic of the MP. I had an old Eb fanfare MP bought in Munich with a cornet. It had a sharp turnover from the kettle to the "bore". I have on my WenzlMeinl rotary C valvetrombone a similar but bigger MP. The valves are conical, press fittings like on your trumpet and clockwork encapsulated springs.
The mouthpiece was much like a modern trumpet mouthpiece. On the demo recording I used a mouthpiece with deep elliptical cup. But the shank is the same as a modern trumpet mouthpiece shank, and I use the same mouthpiece on a modern Bb rotary valve trumpet.
Are your valves conical?,i e low diameter slightly bigge than r the top diameter?
Could you give a sound sample of this beautiful instrument?
Yes
OK thanks
Thanks . But why you are not mor carefuly with the trumpet? On this table it becomes scratches!
so the MP are quite small, like a Bb tpts?
Used this video to refurbish an old Soviet Ukranian rotary.
No the valves are not conical. I play a demonstration of this trumpet in a video on my channel (jwhill7) called "F trumpet demo." In the video, this is "trumpet number 1." I have two long Eb trumpets from the same era and several short-form F trumpets that I plan to offer on eBay.
If anyone here would help me, I'd really appreciate it! I have a Lidl rotary valve alto trumpet which I love to play. Unfortunately, I broke a valve spring. I can't find a replacement spring. If anyone knows where I can get a replacement flat spring for one of these trumpets, please reply. Thanks!!!
The Brass and Woodwind Shop has a YT video, How to Replace Internal Springs on a Rotary Trumpet.
They got new flat coiled springs from The Clock Works in Schenectady, NY.
Great! The small adjustments in the end? Important for me to know? I intend to to this job on a similar antique baritone horn. Per-Erik, Norway,
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do you have to use 3-in-1 oil for a top action rotary valve cornet? It's a Russian made one from about 1974
+Eli Gutierrez You might need to use a somewhat lighter oil, such as a commercial preparation specially designated for rotary valves. Those oils come in various weights. The basic principle is that you should use the heaviest oil that does not slow down the valve action. Except for really modern instruments, rotary valves traditionally relied on the oil to complete the air seal, because the rotors did not actually touch or rub against the cylinder walls. If 3-in-1 slows down your valves, then try a regular rotary valve oil.
@@jwhill7 Modern ones don't touch the casings either, because it'd make the action much worse. They just have a smaller gap between.