This one made me think. Anakin was brought to the temple as a traumatized child and was treated like he had done something wrong, and even though he was the hero of the Republic, he was still treated that way by Windu. If the council had given Anakin a reason to trust them, Palpatine would have never been able to manipulate him. Anakin was operating on love and fear why did Padme take a long time to forgive him?
Anakin was always treated like an outsider. The council always treated him like an outsider… the other Padawans, the knights, everyone treated Anakin Skywalker like he was different…. And not the good kind of different. The council royally fucked up by making Obi-Wan explain why they wanted Anakin to spy on the chancellor by himself …. And do it after class. Palpatine scored big there because Windu didn’t know how to separate his distrust of the chancellor from his distrust of Skywalker. If Mace had just treated Anakin like he was a member of the council instead of so obviously only accepting him under protest, and treating him like a redheaded stepchild …. All this shit could have been avoided. Imagine if they had openly discussed their concerns about the chancellor in council, bringing Anakin into their confidence. The difference would have been night and day. Anakin would almost certainly have wanted to defend the chancellor in front of the masters, and the masters would have been been able to push back and give Anakin all of their rationale for why something ain’t right with Palpatine. Instead, they come across like a bunch of paranoid monks distrustful of the father figure in Anakin’s life….. and he defended that person
All that is true. As to why Padme took a long time to forgive him…well…the whole killing younglings thing is a good start. Choking her on Mustafar is another. Terrorizing their own children is quite a tough pill to swallow.
I’m not so sure Anakin betrayed the Jedi here so much as took his revenge on Mace for killing the one person he thought could save his wife and kids. The author here had to basically put Anakin into a diluted rage in order to force this to happen and as such, Anakin dramatically under performed making first year rookie mistakes left and right in order to allow Windu to win. To put that in perspective, mace wins here because he uses a force push to slam Anakin into the wall and daze him so he can chop his hands off and then throw him out a window. If Anakin had simply started the fight with a force push, he could’ve slammed Windu into a wall, dazed him and chopped his hands off like in canon …. But instead he’s written like a complete EMO 16-year-old who yanks out his light saber and whips it around like Zorro to warn mace in advance, rather than using the element of surprise. That’s not general Anakin Skywalker, that’s not the chosen one, that’s not even a competent Jedi knight… that’s a caricature who’s been set up to fail from the beginning. Somehow Anakin has spent the last 15 years of his life being trained as a Jedi, a group of detached controlled emotionally disciplined space wizards who think clearly under stress….. but behaves as if he has never received a single day of Jedi training other than saber combat. In short, Obi-Wan Kenobi is a really shitty teacher if he hasn’t conveyed any of the basic tenants of Jedi philosophy to his student, and the council are really shit at their job to have knighted Anakin Skywalker, if he exhibits none of the traits of a Jedi. Contrast this brash obnoxious impulsive, impetuous child with Darth Vader. One of them has mental discipline and focus befitting a force user, The other one is in a caricature of a hormonal teenager. This is part of why I loved seeing Hayden. Christensen reprise his role in Ahsoka. His performance is 10 times better now that he’s a little bit older, a little more mature, and isn’t under the direction to portray the character like an out of control rage filled hormonal idiot. Obviously, the character of Ahsoka didn’t exist when revenge of the Sith was filmed, and as such Anakin was never portrayed as a teacher. Getting to see Anakin imparting wisdom to his padawan on the battlefield, and demonstrating why he was such an incredibly effective general was a fantastic payoff for a character that was essentially wasted in the movies. Darth Vader was a menacing villain, because he was controlled and precise, Anakin Skywalker was obnoxious because he exhibited very little self-control throughout the movies. Getting to see this more mature version of Anakin that makes so much more sense in context, really helped the character and made it more believable that Anakin and Darth Vader could be the same person.
I have a suggestion. In the novel indeed Anakin ignores Shaak Ti claiming he is the Chosen One. So what if instead of stopping him Shaak Ti said "you are right and the chosen one needs all the help he can get" and goes WITH him to Palpatine? She is not stupid, she can sense Anakin's turmoil but she goes to be that calming voice and extra Jedi that might be needed.
To me, it's always been a sad fact about the Jedi, that they pretty much caused this entire situation. From not teaching their students how to actually deal with strong negative emotions, outside of ignoring or suppressing them, making it so they were vulnerable to the dark side when they did ever experience strong negative emotions that they couldn't just ignore or suppress. To absolutely forbidding emotional attachments. Yes, those emotional attachments can lead to strong negative emotions, but if you are taught how to deal with those emotions then it's not as bad, but that attachment could also be a source of strong lightside emotions. And then in this case it provided Palpatine the perfect method of corrupting Anakin because unlike everything else this was something that he couldn't just go and talk to another Jedi about openly.
What if Anakin Skywalker Killed Barriss Offee (for framing Ahsoka of the Temple Bombing)? This would be a rly fun one to do and if you could have Anakin kill Tarkin because he wanted the death penalty on Ahsoka, that would make the story more dark!!
I still want someone to do "What if Dooku and Grievous were KILLED during the battle of Dathomir?" If you think about it, the nightsisters came really close. Talzin almost killed Dooku and if Ventress killed Grievous or held him off for a bit longer, she would have actually succeeded. Without Dooku, Grievous wouldn't have found Daka to kill her and in the end, he and his army would have been crushed by the Zombie nightsisters under Daka's command (or Talzin would have destroyed them herself, her lightning-like attack was very effective against the droids). Talzin was a real threat for Sidious and in case she would have won here, it would have had a huge impact on his plans. Another one I would really like would be: "What if Talzin ALLIED with the Jedi after Dooku's betrayal?"
Not bad. But I wish Shaak Ti did more than just be a proverbial barrier-maiden. Perhaps Shaak Ti is moved by Anakin and Padme, and argues against his expulsion. Though unsuccessful, she offers to train his children in the ways of the Force. But not as Jedi. Let them choose their own path. Eventually she becomes the cool aunt to Luke and Leia.
To me it would be more interesting if he felt truly betrayed by everyone including Padme and the council. And he left the council would try to stop him feeling the darkness pouring off of him. But he would say before leaving that it was clear to him that to them he was never a Jedi. And he would leave for deep space. And find the remaining of a sith empire with powerful droids and years later he returns not as a jedi or a sith but a demon of the dark side with a terrifying droid army not to rule but destroy.
Here are my ideas day 9 of asking: What if Cal and Merrin had a Daughter (Jedi Nightsister hybrid)? What if Padme was enslaved during the clone wars? What if during the rescue of Han Solo Leia failed to kill Jabba and was left behind remaining as a slave? What if Din Djarain and Bo-Katan fell in love during the events of Mando season 3? What if Luke and Leia found out they were siblings earlier (like before Empire strikes back?)? Similar to the previous one, what if Luke and Leia were not separated at brith and were both raised by Owen and Baru? What if Jyn Erso survived and went on to meet and fall in love with Luke Skywalker? What if Ahsoka found Shin Hatie before Baylon Skoll? What if the Aldani Heist went fully according to plan aka the whole payroll was stolen from under the Imperial noses?
Ask yourself for a second, why is Anakin Skywalker a Jedi? Anakin was a slave, the first true kindness he was shown by the outside galaxy was when Qui Gon rescued him and brought him to Coruscant. A nine-year-old slave boy, who spent his entire life doing what he is told and following the orders of others suddenly found himself being asked whether he wanted to be a Jedi or not. His mother is gone, QuiGon is gone and this dude Obi-Wan Kenobi is asking if he wants to be trained as a Jedi. Of course said yes because he had no other alternative. Now flash forward 11 years. Anakin Skywalker is married to a senator, he’s rich he’s powerful he’s incredibly skilled and could literally quit the order tomorrow go pod racing on Malistare and make millions of credits within a year. The guy is a war hero 1000 times over, he’s a planetary hero on Naboo, a living legend to half the galaxy and a very conflicted husband and soon to be father. Anakin is literally trapped between his “Duty” as the chosen one, to end the Sith and his responsibilities as a husband and father. He’s here out of obligation, and he goes and seeks the council of master Yoda to help him deal with his nightmares about his wife’s death. What he receives are meaningless, generic platitudes about just letting whoever it is he cares about die. Is it any wonder that he seeks out the only legitimate father figure he has in chancellor Palpatine, and clings to the hope that Palpatine gives him? The Jedi council utterly failed Anakin who should have told those smug bastards to shove it up their ass, resigned and lived out his life happily ever after on Naboo with his hot young wife, but instead he stayed and endured all of their abuse and Windu’s endless disapproving looks trying to do the right thing for the galaxy…… right up until the Jedi attempted to take his last remaining hope, and kill the one person who had offered to help Anakin save Padme.
I have a suggestion. "What if Anakin lost the force after becoming Darth Vader?" so basically just after the death of Windu, the force itself took Anakin's status as the chosen one from him.
Imagine if they actually gave Anakin Grief counseling and treated him like a person, maybe Darth Vader wouldn't exist and palpetine would cease to exist.
I agree there’s no way Anakin wins this fight as he’s using too much of the dark side for him to have a chance against Windu. He’s essentially fighting himself and Windu at the same time so he had no chance even a tired Mace. I do think Ahsoka and Obi-Wan would be able to keep him in those chambers besides Padme of course and maybe Rex if he was inclined to thru their very close relationships to him. Everyone else wouldn’t be able to without violence and a nasty fight. Great video and it would be awesome to see Star Wars do a sparring session with Mace and Anakin in show or movie sometime. That would make an awesome scene if done right.
A bog standard marine infantryman could kill just about any force user …. Just use a gun rather than a blaster and the Jedi are 99% less resilient since they can’t reflect shots.
I loved the Anakin-Windu fight. It does confuse me a bit why it would take Padme a long time to forgive him. He didn’t do anything to her and it was clear he was manipulated, plus it’s not like she fully trusted the Jedi either.
It doesn't confuse me at all. If Anakin had worries all he has to do was talk with Padme but no he ignored the training and relationships he had with the Jedi and was willing to work with the sworn enemies of the Galaxy the Sith I don't know if I could trust that person either if I was in her shoes.
Anakin just committed attempted murder, a very serious crime. I know that if someone close to me tried to murder someone else, even if they were manipulated into doing it, I would never forgive them or trust them ever again.
@@korhol2065 considering in canon she didn't really mind, no. After all it was understandable for him lashing out (minus the kids). She forgave him pretty quickly
What if Anakin was born knowing what will happen, like the force granted Anakin as the chosen one the ability to know what will happen in the future as if he relived it and went back in time
What about his kids? They would be strong Force-sensitives, and I highly doubt he would trust them with the Jedi. Maybe Ashoka or perhaps Obi-Wan could teach them?
Hey i have a cool idea for a what if "What If Anakin Skywalker from the world between worlds went back in time to the clone wars" if you think about it it could be very interesting as anakin would know all the events of the galaxy. And he would be light and dark at will so how would that play out. As you can see it sounds like a fun idea.
What if the Jedi weren't complete morons and actually invested time and care into trying to treat Anakin's mental health issues instead of simply pushing him through the standard training pipeline?
I love how Mace called out to Shaka Ti to help Anakin out. As he knew that his distrusting relationship was a drawback with Anakin. Day 42 of my list. What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?
The interaction between Anakin and master Ti is extremely forced, all she had to do was go to the council chamber and tell Anakin she’d been sent by Windu and explain why….. but of course, Anakin is portrayed as deranged beyond reasoning, and she’s completely ineffectual and a lousy communicator so it goes tits up
I do not think Anakin would have attacked Windu. He would have been angry, he would have probably left the jedi order alltogether on his own, but I simply cannot see him attacking Windu over a dead Palpatine. Also the manipulation of Anakin would have probably ended and he would have seen reason. Anakin would have fallen to the ground, dropping his lightsaber, claimed the Jedi to be corrupt and breaking their own rules at their own will, but he would have probably talked to Obi-Wan, who'd have supported him, but couldn't turn him from his decision to leave the Jedi order. Anakin would have focused on Padme and being a father, and wouldn't have cut himself off from the force. He'd be training and he'd become stronger in the force still, using his compassion for good without the manipulating influence of the Sith. Years later, he would have again consulted with the Jedi council on some matters, maybe the Jedi would have faced a new threat they couldn't defeat and Anakin would have shown them that in fact love and compassion are the true ways of the light side of the force, not letting go of everything you love. He would have shown the jedi order that they were wrong through simply being such a powerful force user with all his attachments, all the people he fought for, that the Jedi might have reconsidered. He was in fact the chosen one, the one to bring balance to the force, but not by destroying the jedi and sith, but by reforming the jedi with his teachings that truly brought them balance in the force, using both teachings of their jedi masters and teachings of Anakin who'd have taught them that emotions (generally considered a dark side lure) were strong if used for good. Protecting the weak, avenging those who are wronged by evil, fighting with compassion and sometimes with justified rage, all that would have been strange to the jedi, but they would have learned to listen and Anakin would have taken Yoda's place after his death as grand master of the now reformed jedi order, that didn't consider itself peacekeepers of the republic, but protectors of the peoples of the galaxy.
Just curious have you read the rots novelisation because I know the anakin/shaak ti interaction has quotes from them Also personally on an even playing field I do favour Anakin as he is stated to be the strongest and fastest Jedi of his or any generation and generally has better duelling from his defeat of Dooku who is generally better than sidious as a duelist but fair enough it was a great video and in this context mace wins handily
What if Anakin became a temple guard What if Crosshairs stayed with the bad batch What if Bode never betrayed Cal What if Dagan Gera stayed in the light side and joined Cal Kestis
Mace Windu comes off like a self righteous prick. He broke the Jedi code by murdering Palpatine … not to mention committing treason against the republic by extrajudicially assassinating the chancellor…. dismembers Anakin and then has the gaul to pat himself on the back for treating Anakin like a pariah for 15 years and basically handing him to the Sith on a silver platter. There is ZERO chance that the senate would make him supreme chancellor…. and a decent chance they would call for his arrest for high crimes against the Republic and maiming the most famous war hero in the galaxy
I've always said he Jedi were their own downfall. The no attachments rule was Bogus as the Jedi were so attached to the Republic and the war that they became blind and deaf to all the warning signs spiritually, physically and audioably. They failed to listen to Qui-gon which got him killed, they failed to listen to Ahsoka which led to her leaving the order, they ignored the presence of the sith which led to Palpatine being chancellor, Yoda completely dismissed Anakin's nightmares instead of actually investigating them or at least trying to help Anakin sift through them properly, most of all they completely ignored the darkness in Anakin which was a drastic mistake as the council were all well aware of his powers and the fact the he was the chosen one. Don't even get me started on the fact that the only reason Mace was right is because of how he and the council treated Anakin and how they lost their way and lost the concept of what Jedi are supposed to be. The downfall is my opinion is squarely on the shoulders of Yoda and Mace for the reasons listed above.
Don’t forget, Palpatine was completely legally justified in executing order 66 because the Jedi did in-fact, engage in treason against the Republic by attempting to assassinate the elected leader of the galaxy, with no evidence of a crime.
@@johnjly5295 how do you figure? Watch that scene again for master space wizards walk into the chancellors office, light sabers, drawn, waving those suckers around, attempting to assassinate him and Palpatine straight up says it’s treason before fighting back. That recording justifies palatines‘s actions. He could’ve played that in the center of the Senate meeting to thunderous applause. The Jedi straight up committed treason against the Republic
@@Matt-yg8ub no Mace declared Palpatine under arrest for treason then Palpatine asked if they intend to kill him in which Mace says that's up for the senate to decide. Then the following exchange happens Palpatine: "I am the senate" Mace: "not yet" Palpatine: "then it is treason" He then pulls out his saber and attacks them after a sith howl. Palpatine was referring to the his attack on them not their attempt to arrest him. Also if you pay attention the the comics they had evidence that Palpatine was playing both sides and had talked to Bale Organa about it on the way to arrest Palpatine. Also another factor that confirms this is that George Lucas himself has stated that the recording was manipulated after so it looked as if they attacked him unprovoked(also mentioned in the comics, in legends, and in lore). Also in the comics the manipulated video was played for the senate. There's only so much that was able to be put in the movie due to time constraints.
@@johnjly5295 so you’re saying, they retroactively plugged a bunch of plot holes in some supporting material somewhere along the way. That’s not what was in the movie. In the movie, Anakin confronts mace in the hanger and Mace tells him that they’ve just gotten word that general grievous is dead and they’re going to go confront Palpatine and force him to give up his emergency powers or else. Four Jedi just appointed themselves to supersede the Senate and the courts and demand that the chancellor bend to their will. Anakin informs him that the chancellor is a Sith Lord, at which point mace changes his plan from an extrajudicial coup to a gangland assassination. Don’t believe me? Then how come Anakin Skywalker is standing there, pleading with Mace to arrest the chancellor and Mace says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive and takes a swing with his light saber before Anakin disarms him?
I don’t think Anakin had any reason to kill anyone…. His motivation here is that he needs Palpatine to save Padme and he’s concerned that Mace isn’t going to just arrest him, but rather kill him…. Which is technically treason against the Republic. Imagine trying to explain this to the Senate. It’s not illegal to be a Sith, not that the senate even knows what the hell that means … Windu and the masters literally just randomly went and assassinated the supreme chancellor of the Republic because they believed he was a member of a rival gang
Great, don't know bout cutting hands as thats literally against the code of Jedi as Anakin was helpess (as his lightsaber was gone and he hit his head alot) How didnt he kill Palpatine? As wasnt he supposed to be the chosen one. Anyways cool
Can you do What if anakin led the cis What if Anakin was raised with maul and savage What if Anakin was the sith’ari What if palpatine genuinely cared about Anakin
The scenario felt decent, but in execution it wasn’t as graceful, mace windu kills the chancellor and they just let mace be the chancellor I get that they said mace had evidence likely from the chancellor room, but he still assassinated the chancellor without a trial so I feel like that would cause some issues
awww The chosen one fulfills his destiny, clears up some seriously emotional immature issues, grows up to be a loving gentleman...and they lived Happily Ever After...THE END(standing ovation)---of course it begs the question, clearly Hollywood ain't gonna rake in the killing through merchandising ;p and now what about chapters IV, V, IV...the saga that began it all for us younglings...cut to: Anakin waking from a terrible nightmare, sweating and screaming about what he had just experienced, and in walks Luke/Leia&Padmai-What is it Anakin? a sigh of relief comforts his face-nothing, it's ALL OKAY now, it was just me seeing, that had I not made the choice I did all those years ago, I would've died never knowing this, US Our Family. Beach time babe & margaritas for all, it's 5o'clock somewhere... ;p xoxoxo
Video #23 of the campaign: I wonder what you could cook up with this idea - "What if Anakin died in the Battle of Coruscant ?". I was personally interested in seeing what would happen if Anakin crashed into a munitions crate or something, dying in the cockpit of his crashed fighter. How would that affect Obi-Wan and Sidious's plans ? Maybe Dooku could finally convince Obi-Wan to join him, or something else. Perhaps with Dooku arrested, the Jedi order would believe him and stop Palpatine, either killing him or arresting him. For the Jedi, the prophecy of the Chosen One would turn out to have been wrong, but in reality, Anakin not living to join Sidious would've probably been a better fate for the galaxy. Alternatively, Sidious could perhaps still salvage the situation, making his empire stronger. I think it could be another 2 part episode.
Can you do a What if Rahm Kota Died but Shaak Ti Survived The Duel On Felucia and took Rahm Kota’s place as Starkiller’s New Master and took over what was left of Rahm’s Militia?
What if Anakin joined the group of Jedi that planned on finding away to leave the galaxy but were killed by Thrawn would Palpatine give the order ro kill them still and what would happen.
I don’t think it would have taken Padme long to forgive him, he didn’t really do anything besides “attack” Windu. Windu was the one who actually harmed Anakin.
Mace committed high treason against the Republic by assassinating the supreme chancellor. General Skywalker attempted to take him into custody and was grievously injured by the treasonous bastard in the process. The Jedi might be right that Palpatine was behind the war… but they have no proof . They literally executed a hit on the chancellor because Anakin told them he was a member of a rival gang. Worse than that… even before Anakin gave them that slim excuse…Mace and the council were on their way to depose the legitimate leader of the republic. It was a coup. Plain and simple
what if heavy and cutup nether died would they survive the war and help 5 with odder 66 and maybe echo would of not got blown up and maybe clone trooper 99 might still be alive to help 5 with find the cips in the clones
Yes it was deleted and replaced with another scene where she is stabbed by anakin, which was also deleted Basically she didnt get killed by grevious and she doesnt have an actual death
Not even Disney could write a story this asinine , only the Chosen One could destroy the Sith . The most corrupt jedi in the history of the other couldn't do it , the only thing separating windu from the Sith is the color of his lightsaber. The only thing that I agree with is that windu would appoint himself Chancellor after illegally assassinating the rightful Chancellor.
This one made me think. Anakin was brought to the temple as a traumatized child and was treated like he had done something wrong, and even though he was the hero of the Republic, he was still treated that way by Windu. If the council had given Anakin a reason to trust them, Palpatine would have never been able to manipulate him. Anakin was operating on love and fear why did Padme take a long time to forgive him?
Anakin was always treated like an outsider. The council always treated him like an outsider… the other Padawans, the knights, everyone treated Anakin Skywalker like he was different…. And not the good kind of different.
The council royally fucked up by making Obi-Wan explain why they wanted Anakin to spy on the chancellor by himself …. And do it after class.
Palpatine scored big there because Windu didn’t know how to separate his distrust of the chancellor from his distrust of Skywalker.
If Mace had just treated Anakin like he was a member of the council instead of so obviously only accepting him under protest, and treating him like a redheaded stepchild …. All this shit could have been avoided.
Imagine if they had openly discussed their concerns about the chancellor in council, bringing Anakin into their confidence. The difference would have been night and day. Anakin would almost certainly have wanted to defend the chancellor in front of the masters, and the masters would have been been able to push back and give Anakin all of their rationale for why something ain’t right with Palpatine. Instead, they come across like a bunch of paranoid monks distrustful of the father figure in Anakin’s life….. and he defended that person
The council and screwed up and practically handed him over.
All that is true. As to why Padme took a long time to forgive him…well…the whole killing younglings thing is a good start. Choking her on Mustafar is another. Terrorizing their own children is quite a tough pill to swallow.
So true
Anakin was always alright about the council
So many forget that Sidious used Sith alchemy to blind the Jedi to their presence, they were beaten year's before Anakin betrayed The Jedi .
Plus order 66 with or without Anakin will still have done the job
How did Sidious use Sith Alchemy to do that?
I’m not so sure Anakin betrayed the Jedi here so much as took his revenge on Mace for killing the one person he thought could save his wife and kids.
The author here had to basically put Anakin into a diluted rage in order to force this to happen and as such, Anakin dramatically under performed making first year rookie mistakes left and right in order to allow Windu to win.
To put that in perspective, mace wins here because he uses a force push to slam Anakin into the wall and daze him so he can chop his hands off and then throw him out a window.
If Anakin had simply started the fight with a force push, he could’ve slammed Windu into a wall, dazed him and chopped his hands off like in canon …. But instead he’s written like a complete EMO 16-year-old who yanks out his light saber and whips it around like Zorro to warn mace in advance, rather than using the element of surprise.
That’s not general Anakin Skywalker, that’s not the chosen one, that’s not even a competent Jedi knight… that’s a caricature who’s been set up to fail from the beginning.
Somehow Anakin has spent the last 15 years of his life being trained as a Jedi, a group of detached controlled emotionally disciplined space wizards who think clearly under stress….. but behaves as if he has never received a single day of Jedi training other than saber combat.
In short, Obi-Wan Kenobi is a really shitty teacher if he hasn’t conveyed any of the basic tenants of Jedi philosophy to his student, and the council are really shit at their job to have knighted Anakin Skywalker, if he exhibits none of the traits of a Jedi.
Contrast this brash obnoxious impulsive, impetuous child with Darth Vader. One of them has mental discipline and focus befitting a force user, The other one is in a caricature of a hormonal teenager.
This is part of why I loved seeing Hayden. Christensen reprise his role in Ahsoka. His performance is 10 times better now that he’s a little bit older, a little more mature, and isn’t under the direction to portray the character like an out of control rage filled hormonal idiot.
Obviously, the character of Ahsoka didn’t exist when revenge of the Sith was filmed, and as such Anakin was never portrayed as a teacher. Getting to see Anakin imparting wisdom to his padawan on the battlefield, and demonstrating why he was such an incredibly effective general was a fantastic payoff for a character that was essentially wasted in the movies.
Darth Vader was a menacing villain, because he was controlled and precise, Anakin Skywalker was obnoxious because he exhibited very little self-control throughout the movies. Getting to see this more mature version of Anakin that makes so much more sense in context, really helped the character and made it more believable that Anakin and Darth Vader could be the same person.
I have a suggestion. In the novel indeed Anakin ignores Shaak Ti claiming he is the Chosen One.
So what if instead of stopping him Shaak Ti said "you are right and the chosen one needs all the help he can get" and goes WITH him to Palpatine?
She is not stupid, she can sense Anakin's turmoil but she goes to be that calming voice and extra Jedi that might be needed.
Alternate storyline. Padme walks into the council and Obi-Wan immediately goes "Oh f*ck".
To me, it's always been a sad fact about the Jedi, that they pretty much caused this entire situation. From not teaching their students how to actually deal with strong negative emotions, outside of ignoring or suppressing them, making it so they were vulnerable to the dark side when they did ever experience strong negative emotions that they couldn't just ignore or suppress. To absolutely forbidding emotional attachments. Yes, those emotional attachments can lead to strong negative emotions, but if you are taught how to deal with those emotions then it's not as bad, but that attachment could also be a source of strong lightside emotions. And then in this case it provided Palpatine the perfect method of corrupting Anakin because unlike everything else this was something that he couldn't just go and talk to another Jedi about openly.
What if Anakin Skywalker Killed Barriss Offee (for framing Ahsoka of the Temple Bombing)? This would be a rly fun one to do and if you could have Anakin kill Tarkin because he wanted the death penalty on Ahsoka, that would make the story more dark!!
I still want someone to do "What if Dooku and Grievous were KILLED during the battle of Dathomir?"
If you think about it, the nightsisters came really close. Talzin almost killed Dooku and if Ventress killed Grievous or held him off for a bit longer, she would have actually succeeded. Without Dooku, Grievous wouldn't have found Daka to kill her and in the end, he and his army would have been crushed by the Zombie nightsisters under Daka's command (or Talzin would have destroyed them herself, her lightning-like attack was very effective against the droids). Talzin was a real threat for Sidious and in case she would have won here, it would have had a huge impact on his plans.
Another one I would really like would be: "What if Talzin ALLIED with the Jedi after Dooku's betrayal?"
Not bad. But I wish Shaak Ti did more than just be a proverbial barrier-maiden. Perhaps Shaak Ti is moved by Anakin and Padme, and argues against his expulsion. Though unsuccessful, she offers to train his children in the ways of the Force. But not as Jedi. Let them choose their own path. Eventually she becomes the cool aunt to Luke and Leia.
To me it would be more interesting if he felt truly betrayed by everyone including Padme and the council. And he left the council would try to stop him feeling the darkness pouring off of him. But he would say before leaving that it was clear to him that to them he was never a Jedi. And he would leave for deep space. And find the remaining of a sith empire with powerful droids and years later he returns not as a jedi or a sith but a demon of the dark side with a terrifying droid army not to rule but destroy.
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What if Jar Jar called for a vote of no confidence instead of giving Palpatine Emergency Powers
"What if Shaak Ti taught Anakin the secrets of immorality to save padme."
Here are my ideas day 9 of asking:
What if Cal and Merrin had a Daughter (Jedi Nightsister hybrid)?
What if Padme was enslaved during the clone wars?
What if during the rescue of Han Solo Leia failed to kill Jabba and was left behind remaining as a slave?
What if Din Djarain and Bo-Katan fell in love during the events of Mando season 3?
What if Luke and Leia found out they were siblings earlier (like before Empire strikes back?)?
Similar to the previous one, what if Luke and Leia were not separated at brith and were both raised by Owen and Baru?
What if Jyn Erso survived and went on to meet and fall in love with Luke Skywalker?
What if Ahsoka found Shin Hatie before Baylon Skoll?
What if the Aldani Heist went fully according to plan aka the whole payroll was stolen from under the Imperial noses?
Ask yourself for a second, why is Anakin Skywalker a Jedi? Anakin was a slave, the first true kindness he was shown by the outside galaxy was when Qui Gon rescued him and brought him to Coruscant.
A nine-year-old slave boy, who spent his entire life doing what he is told and following the orders of others suddenly found himself being asked whether he wanted to be a Jedi or not. His mother is gone, QuiGon is gone and this dude Obi-Wan Kenobi is asking if he wants to be trained as a Jedi. Of course said yes because he had no other alternative. Now flash forward 11 years.
Anakin Skywalker is married to a senator, he’s rich he’s powerful he’s incredibly skilled and could literally quit the order tomorrow go pod racing on Malistare and make millions of credits within a year. The guy is a war hero 1000 times over, he’s a planetary hero on Naboo, a living legend to half the galaxy and a very conflicted husband and soon to be father.
Anakin is literally trapped between his “Duty” as the chosen one, to end the Sith and his responsibilities as a husband and father.
He’s here out of obligation, and he goes and seeks the council of master Yoda to help him deal with his nightmares about his wife’s death. What he receives are meaningless, generic platitudes about just letting whoever it is he cares about die. Is it any wonder that he seeks out the only legitimate father figure he has in chancellor Palpatine, and clings to the hope that Palpatine gives him?
The Jedi council utterly failed Anakin who should have told those smug bastards to shove it up their ass, resigned and lived out his life happily ever after on Naboo with his hot young wife, but instead he stayed and endured all of their abuse and Windu’s endless disapproving looks trying to do the right thing for the galaxy…… right up until the Jedi attempted to take his last remaining hope, and kill the one person who had offered to help Anakin save Padme.
I have a suggestion.
"What if Anakin lost the force after becoming Darth Vader?" so basically just after the death of Windu, the force itself took Anakin's status as the chosen one from him.
Also as a military General Windu effectively pulled off a military coup
Windu channeling that Jedi Chancellor history from the New Sith Wars
Imagine if they actually gave Anakin Grief counseling and treated him like a person, maybe Darth Vader wouldn't exist and palpetine would cease to exist.
I agree there’s no way Anakin wins this fight as he’s using too much of the dark side for him to have a chance against Windu. He’s essentially fighting himself and Windu at the same time so he had no chance even a tired Mace.
I do think Ahsoka and Obi-Wan would be able to keep him in those chambers besides Padme of course and maybe Rex if he was inclined to thru their very close relationships to him. Everyone else wouldn’t be able to without violence and a nasty fight.
Great video and it would be awesome to see Star Wars do a sparring session with Mace and Anakin in show or movie sometime. That would make an awesome scene if done right.
A bog standard marine infantryman could kill just about any force user …. Just use a gun rather than a blaster and the Jedi are 99% less resilient since they can’t reflect shots.
what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave.
Well done. I do like Anakin v Windu. I agree Padme would be the one to keep him sane.
What if the Jedi didn't fail Anakin every step of the way.
I loved the Anakin-Windu fight. It does confuse me a bit why it would take Padme a long time to forgive him. He didn’t do anything to her and it was clear he was manipulated, plus it’s not like she fully trusted the Jedi either.
It doesn't confuse me at all. If Anakin had worries all he has to do was talk with Padme but no he ignored the training and relationships he had with the Jedi and was willing to work with the sworn enemies of the Galaxy the Sith I don't know if I could trust that person either if I was in her shoes.
Anakin just committed attempted murder, a very serious crime. I know that if someone close to me tried to murder someone else, even if they were manipulated into doing it, I would never forgive them or trust them ever again.
@@mddojo didn't windu just assassinate palps?
Because I would say that's worse - at least from a civilian standpoint
Didn’t anakin’s slaughter of the Tuskan raiders happen in this timeline? I feel like Padme would be shaken by that
@@korhol2065 considering in canon she didn't really mind, no.
After all it was understandable for him lashing out (minus the kids). She forgave him pretty quickly
In the end I guess it really did all come down to Shaak Ti
What if Anakin was born knowing what will happen, like the force granted Anakin as the chosen one the ability to know what will happen in the future as if he relived it and went back in time
Wouldn't mind seeing an alt ending to this where Padme still dies and Anakin has a round 2
Windu really should have come to that realization
What about his kids? They would be strong Force-sensitives, and I highly doubt he would trust them with the Jedi. Maybe Ashoka or perhaps Obi-Wan could teach them?
Palps threw the fight against Windu. Windu would never have beaten him if Palps went all in.
I've got a What If scenario idea, What if the Jedi High council got transported in time from just before order 66 back to the birth of the Jedi order?
What crimes exactly? Palpatine sayed jedi are taking over and then it happens if anything Anikan tried to save the republic as its a jedi puppet
What If Luke Skywalker traveled back in time to save Padmé Amidala?
what if anakin told mace about what happened on tatooine and mace decided to help him
I've always despised Windu as a character...
I always liked Windu personally.
I probably don't understand his character.@@darthnowlan
@@AGenomeSoldier Probably don't.
Hey i have a cool idea for a what if "What If Anakin Skywalker from the world between worlds went back in time to the clone wars" if you think about it it could be very interesting as anakin would know all the events of the galaxy. And he would be light and dark at will so how would that play out. As you can see it sounds like a fun idea.
What if the Jedi weren't complete morons and actually invested time and care into trying to treat Anakin's mental health issues instead of simply pushing him through the standard training pipeline?
What if Anakin secretly flew to Utapau to help Obi Wan?
I love how Mace called out to Shaka Ti to help Anakin out. As he knew that his distrusting relationship was a drawback with Anakin.
Day 42 of my list. What if; Anakin never gave into his feelings for Padme, Aayla Secura was the chosen one and became Darth Talon, Shme Skywalker was adopted by the Tusken Raiders, Boba Fett saved his Tusken family, Count Dooku was a regular count for the CIS, Jabba the Hutt supported the Jedi at the Start of the Clone Wars, and finally, what if Sabine and Ezra fell in love?
What if the Clone Wars reached earth in the modern day?
What if Shaak Ti led a clone rebellion after the emperor made the stormtroopers law
The interaction between Anakin and master Ti is extremely forced, all she had to do was go to the council chamber and tell Anakin she’d been sent by Windu and explain why….. but of course, Anakin is portrayed as deranged beyond reasoning, and she’s completely ineffectual and a lousy communicator so it goes tits up
I do not think Anakin would have attacked Windu. He would have been angry, he would have probably left the jedi order alltogether on his own, but I simply cannot see him attacking Windu over a dead Palpatine. Also the manipulation of Anakin would have probably ended and he would have seen reason.
Anakin would have fallen to the ground, dropping his lightsaber, claimed the Jedi to be corrupt and breaking their own rules at their own will, but he would have probably talked to Obi-Wan, who'd have supported him, but couldn't turn him from his decision to leave the Jedi order. Anakin would have focused on Padme and being a father, and wouldn't have cut himself off from the force. He'd be training and he'd become stronger in the force still, using his compassion for good without the manipulating influence of the Sith. Years later, he would have again consulted with the Jedi council on some matters, maybe the Jedi would have faced a new threat they couldn't defeat and Anakin would have shown them that in fact love and compassion are the true ways of the light side of the force, not letting go of everything you love. He would have shown the jedi order that they were wrong through simply being such a powerful force user with all his attachments, all the people he fought for, that the Jedi might have reconsidered. He was in fact the chosen one, the one to bring balance to the force, but not by destroying the jedi and sith, but by reforming the jedi with his teachings that truly brought them balance in the force, using both teachings of their jedi masters and teachings of Anakin who'd have taught them that emotions (generally considered a dark side lure) were strong if used for good. Protecting the weak, avenging those who are wronged by evil, fighting with compassion and sometimes with justified rage, all that would have been strange to the jedi, but they would have learned to listen and Anakin would have taken Yoda's place after his death as grand master of the now reformed jedi order, that didn't consider itself peacekeepers of the republic, but protectors of the peoples of the galaxy.
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What if palpatine used his second light saber after he lost the first one?
Just curious have you read the rots novelisation because I know the anakin/shaak ti interaction has quotes from them
Also personally on an even playing field I do favour Anakin as he is stated to be the strongest and fastest Jedi of his or any generation and generally has better duelling from his defeat of Dooku who is generally better than sidious as a duelist but fair enough it was a great video and in this context mace wins handily
Yesss I take a lot from that novel
@@thestarwarsgalaxy im getting it soon and I heard it’s a good read so cant wait
@@thestarwarsgalaxydooku was toying with anakin
@@thestarwarsgalaxybut good story
I’ve had one scenario in my head for YEARS, and I’d love if you did it! What if Dooku and Grievous turned on Sidious during the Clone Wars?
My boy still not getting therapy😭
I love the split screen picture of Palpatine and the emperor
One of my favourite fan fictions. Thank you.
Fantastically done!
This was a very interesting video. Nice job.
What if Anakin became a temple guard
What if Crosshairs stayed with the bad batch
What if Bode never betrayed Cal
What if Dagan Gera stayed in the light side and joined Cal Kestis
Windu would lose a lot more than two hands after cutting mine off. That's why I'm not the chosen Juan.
Mace Windu comes off like a self righteous prick. He broke the Jedi code by murdering Palpatine … not to mention committing treason against the republic by extrajudicially assassinating the chancellor…. dismembers Anakin and then has the gaul to pat himself on the back for treating Anakin like a pariah for 15 years and basically handing him to the Sith on a silver platter.
There is ZERO chance that the senate would make him supreme chancellor…. and a decent chance they would call for his arrest for high crimes against the Republic and maiming the most famous war hero in the galaxy
I've always said he Jedi were their own downfall. The no attachments rule was Bogus as the Jedi were so attached to the Republic and the war that they became blind and deaf to all the warning signs spiritually, physically and audioably. They failed to listen to Qui-gon which got him killed, they failed to listen to Ahsoka which led to her leaving the order, they ignored the presence of the sith which led to Palpatine being chancellor, Yoda completely dismissed Anakin's nightmares instead of actually investigating them or at least trying to help Anakin sift through them properly, most of all they completely ignored the darkness in Anakin which was a drastic mistake as the council were all well aware of his powers and the fact the he was the chosen one. Don't even get me started on the fact that the only reason Mace was right is because of how he and the council treated Anakin and how they lost their way and lost the concept of what Jedi are supposed to be. The downfall is my opinion is squarely on the shoulders of Yoda and Mace for the reasons listed above.
Don’t forget, Palpatine was completely legally justified in executing order 66 because the Jedi did in-fact, engage in treason against the Republic by attempting to assassinate the elected leader of the galaxy, with no evidence of a crime.
@@Matt-yg8ub technically yes however only because the recording was deleted
@@johnjly5295 how do you figure? Watch that scene again for master space wizards walk into the chancellors office, light sabers, drawn, waving those suckers around, attempting to assassinate him and Palpatine straight up says it’s treason before fighting back. That recording justifies palatines‘s actions.
He could’ve played that in the center of the Senate meeting to thunderous applause.
The Jedi straight up committed treason against the Republic
@@Matt-yg8ub no Mace declared Palpatine under arrest for treason then Palpatine asked if they intend to kill him in which Mace says that's up for the senate to decide. Then the following exchange happens
Palpatine: "I am the senate"
Mace: "not yet"
Palpatine: "then it is treason"
He then pulls out his saber and attacks them after a sith howl.
Palpatine was referring to the his attack on them not their attempt to arrest him.
Also if you pay attention the the comics they had evidence that Palpatine was playing both sides and had talked to Bale Organa about it on the way to arrest Palpatine. Also another factor that confirms this is that George Lucas himself has stated that the recording was manipulated after so it looked as if they attacked him unprovoked(also mentioned in the comics, in legends, and in lore). Also in the comics the manipulated video was played for the senate. There's only so much that was able to be put in the movie due to time constraints.
@@johnjly5295 so you’re saying, they retroactively plugged a bunch of plot holes in some supporting material somewhere along the way. That’s not what was in the movie.
In the movie, Anakin confronts mace in the hanger and Mace tells him that they’ve just gotten word that general grievous is dead and they’re going to go confront Palpatine and force him to give up his emergency powers or else. Four Jedi just appointed themselves to supersede the Senate and the courts and demand that the chancellor bend to their will.
Anakin informs him that the chancellor is a Sith Lord, at which point mace changes his plan from an extrajudicial coup to a gangland assassination.
Don’t believe me? Then how come Anakin Skywalker is standing there, pleading with Mace to arrest the chancellor and Mace says he’s too dangerous to be kept alive and takes a swing with his light saber before Anakin disarms him?
Could do an interesting Kotor 2 style follow up where yuuzhan vong invade and forces Anikan to rebuild his connection to the force
Attempted murder, assault, mentally unstable; and they just let him go?
What's she gonna do?
Die on Anakin?
It's SHAAK TI
Not dying would be highly unbelievable
I would think Anakin would Either stay or attempt to Assassinate Shaak ti though Assassination would be a Last Resort
I don’t think Anakin had any reason to kill anyone…. His motivation here is that he needs Palpatine to save Padme and he’s concerned that Mace isn’t going to just arrest him, but rather kill him…. Which is technically treason against the Republic.
Imagine trying to explain this to the Senate.
It’s not illegal to be a Sith, not that the senate even knows what the hell that means … Windu and the masters literally just randomly went and assassinated the supreme chancellor of the Republic because they believed he was a member of a rival gang
Mace Windu stood on business here 🔥
Great, don't know bout cutting hands as thats literally against the code of Jedi as Anakin was helpess (as his lightsaber was gone and he hit his head alot) How didnt he kill Palpatine? As wasnt he supposed to be the chosen one. Anyways cool
Can you do What if anakin led the cis
What if Anakin was raised with maul and savage
What if Anakin was the sith’ari
What if palpatine genuinely cared about Anakin
What if Anakin was reborn/relived his life with his memories intact.
Micah 4:5
5 All the nations may walk in the name of their gods, but we will walk in the name of the Lord our God for ever and ever.
The scenario felt decent, but in execution it wasn’t as graceful, mace windu kills the chancellor and they just let mace be the chancellor
I get that they said mace had evidence likely from the chancellor room, but he still assassinated the chancellor without a trial so I feel like that would cause some issues
What if Anakin killed the entire Jedi council after being denied the rank of master
awww The chosen one fulfills his destiny, clears up some seriously emotional immature issues, grows up to be a loving gentleman...and they lived Happily Ever After...THE END(standing ovation)---of course it begs the question, clearly Hollywood ain't gonna rake in the killing through merchandising ;p and now what about chapters IV, V, IV...the saga that began it all for us younglings...cut to: Anakin waking from a terrible nightmare, sweating and screaming about what he had just experienced, and in walks Luke/Leia&Padmai-What is it Anakin? a sigh of relief comforts his face-nothing, it's ALL OKAY now, it was just me seeing, that had I not made the choice I did all those years ago, I would've died never knowing this, US Our Family. Beach time babe & margaritas for all, it's 5o'clock somewhere... ;p xoxoxo
What if Padme got done for grooming and Anakin was saved from her?
Legit been watching ur stuff since u had 7k subs crazy too see how far a channel can go, always looking forward too more keep up the hard work!!
Video #23 of the campaign: I wonder what you could cook up with this idea - "What if Anakin died in the Battle of Coruscant ?". I was personally interested in seeing what would happen if Anakin crashed into a munitions crate or something, dying in the cockpit of his crashed fighter. How would that affect Obi-Wan and Sidious's plans ? Maybe Dooku could finally convince Obi-Wan to join him, or something else. Perhaps with Dooku arrested, the Jedi order would believe him and stop Palpatine, either killing him or arresting him. For the Jedi, the prophecy of the Chosen One would turn out to have been wrong, but in reality, Anakin not living to join Sidious would've probably been a better fate for the galaxy. Alternatively, Sidious could perhaps still salvage the situation, making his empire stronger. I think it could be another 2 part episode.
@@iLoveBuckets69 No, as in how it would affect Obi-Wan and how it would also affect Palpatine's plans. English can be a funny sometimes
What if Anakin force ghost gave visions to the Jedi Council about the future in the 2 year of the clone wars.
4 VS 1 that was the best they could do - worthless useless....
Was the Jedi Council permitted to train Luke and Leia afterwards?
Would have made no difference. Anakin would mop the floor with her.
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Love this one.
What if Palpatine before his death on the Death Star managed to essence transfer to Luke?
When was Anakin ever thinking straight?
What soundtrack do you use in the background?
I believe the force itself be it light or dark is evil
This is from the ROTS novelization
Can you do a What if Rahm Kota Died but Shaak Ti Survived The Duel On Felucia and took Rahm Kota’s place as Starkiller’s New Master and took over what was left of Rahm’s Militia?
I wish this was in the Moive instead
What if Anakin joined the group of Jedi that planned on finding away to leave the galaxy but were killed by Thrawn would Palpatine give the order ro kill them still and what would happen.
What if echo didn't get blown up at the citadel
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The true what if is if anakin had a brain
I don’t think it would have taken Padme long to forgive him, he didn’t really do anything besides “attack” Windu. Windu was the one who actually harmed Anakin.
Mace committed high treason against the Republic by assassinating the supreme chancellor. General Skywalker attempted to take him into custody and was grievously injured by the treasonous bastard in the process.
The Jedi might be right that Palpatine was behind the war… but they have no proof . They literally executed a hit on the chancellor because Anakin told them he was a member of a rival gang. Worse than that… even before Anakin gave them that slim excuse…Mace and the council were on their way to depose the legitimate leader of the republic. It was a coup. Plain and simple
Windu committed high treason against the republic and assassinated the supreme chancellor. Attempting to stop him was Anakin’s duty to the Republic
Two twins means four kids. I'm just saying.
Palpatine was a groomer
So if anakin got expelled would his kids train to be jedi or raise them himself and try to explain the force?
what if heavy and cutup nether died would they survive the war and help 5 with odder 66 and maybe echo would of not got blown up and maybe clone trooper 99 might still be alive to help 5 with find the cips in the clones
In the Novel she did try to stop him
What if anakin was a senator and padme a jedi
What if the second Death Star was finished before the battle of Endor?
What if Rex died instead of Vaughn at the siege of Mandalore?
Wasn't Shaak Ti dead already? I remember deleted scene where Grievous killed her. It's so confusing.
Yes it was deleted and replaced with another scene where she is stabbed by anakin, which was also deleted
Basically she didnt get killed by grevious and she doesnt have an actual death
let's do this to where does kill mace and excute order 66 himself
Where can i find about her in actual media?
Not even Disney could write a story this asinine , only the Chosen One could destroy the Sith .
The most corrupt jedi in the history of the other couldn't do it , the only thing separating windu from the Sith is the color of his lightsaber.
The only thing that I agree with is that windu would appoint himself Chancellor after illegally assassinating the rightful Chancellor.
Exactly
What if Rahm Kota trained Anikin?
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