Fahrenheit 451, Lost in Adaptation ~ The Dom
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- How closely did the 1966 movie adaptation of Fahrenheit 451 stay to Ray Bradbury's dystopian novel?
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To preempt any concern: My illness isn't anything serious. I've just been having some issues with my throat and my doctor recommended taking a few weeks off from recording entire scripts.
I hope you feel better and also the Dom if you need help on reviewing the last fifty shades book I suggest cinematic excrement he reviewed all of the twilight movies and the host and the first two fifty shades novel
You rest your voice sweet prince. And please add screamers to your LIA schedule
Definitely have to take care of yourself- and this was pretty clever! Feel better!
Hope you get well soon. Just get plenty of rest and take it easy in the meantime :)
:)
I love the fact that she keeps the Dom's mannerisms and does a good job mimicking his way of speaking minus the accent.
Me too. I'm coming back watching these and didn't notice this first go
@@Graycata I also like how she reads the script verbatim I wonder if Dominic deliberately included more "as a British man" than he would have normally.
@@shadenox8164 sadly you can also quite easily see her read the script from the telepromter
The beginning bit where she gets used to saying the greeting reminds me of a new Doctor adjusting to their body.
As long as we never get an American doctor ;)
@@TeganThrussell If there can be a female Doctor, an American Doctor is not completely out of the question.
@@jimcalhoun361 I think that would drive the fanbase completely off the cliff 😂
I mean, there was a lot of negativity about a female doctor. Imagine what the react would be if they were American.
@@JustAnotherPerson4U It is possible that you are not giving the fan base the credit it deserves.
What would send it off the rails is an older male with a irrepressible love for light gray jumpsuits and disguises his screwdriver as a vacuum cleaner: Dr. Hoover.
I was thinking the same =)
Hearing an Americanised female Dom say ''wanker'' has made my day.
I must say, polyjuice potion is a pretty clever excuse
How did Terrance manage to make Polyjuice Potion look like alcohol? I thought that stuff was like sludge with eyeballs?
It's good to keep a wizard around.
He probably mixed it in, since it seemed to be actual alcohol when the Dom took a swig. A waste of good booze, but I imagine it would cover up at least some of the taste, and Terrance is that much of a dick that he probably thinks it was worth it.
Elijah Jackson it also depends on who you put in the potion. Harry’s was apparently a lovely clear shining gold, from memory. It was only Crabbe and Goyle that were so nasty, as presumably, polyjuice potion mimics the personality of the person you are changing into.
@@katherinemorelle7115 beat me to it... by more than a year.
Re: Renters, there is an answer to that. In the book the houses were all fireproof (although Montag was able to destroy the fireproof covering of his own home with the intense heat of the flamethrower, thus leveling it to cinders). The firefighters burnt away all the book keeper's property, leaving the home a blank slate. I'm guessing furnished rentals were not very popular.
I’m glad somebody answered this because the whole “fireproof houses” thing was such a cool concept in the book, and one of the only parts I really liked when I read it at 12
This is also mentioned in the film. There is a conversation on how firemen used to put out fires and not set them up. And Montag thinks that is absurd as all houses are fireproof and such a job is not necessary at all.
This is why I only half-like this guy's channel, he always misses important shit like this. Like did you just read the cliffnotes version of the book before making the video?
"Slightly mad, but harmless uncle."
With a flamethrower.
I just want to give a super big kudos to Erika. She completely sold me on that being the Dom in a new body. Maybe that's the result of just really good scripting, but the performance is solid too. Much kudos to everyone concerned.
Gotta say, that polyjuice did wonders for reducing your britishness. Makes you sound less like you're about to sell me a dead parrot.
unacomn But it isnt dead.
unacomn nice reference
He's not dead, he's just pining for the fjords.
The Dom heh, nice
don't insult the british accent sirrah
Your mention of Montag's wife's overdose on her sleeping pills I remembered from when I watched the movie and read the book in school, but it also reminded me of something I learned about medical care in that era since leaving school. People, mostly women, who were suffering from a wide variety of psychological conditions from depression to shell shock (PTSD) to epilepsy to insomnia were prescribed drugs from the barbiturate family to help them sleep. These are highly habit-forming and potentially deadly in overdose, and worse yet they had side effects of being both hypnotics and making their users have difficulty with memory. This would cause people to forget they had already taken their dose of sleeping pills, and go back and take more, sometimes several times over. Since it became common knowledge that overdosing on them was deadly and they were so widely available, they also became a common method of suicide. This has been the cause of some high profile celebrity deaths as well, including Marilyn Monroe - although the nature of her overdose is still contested. Ray Bradbury would have direct knowledge of people accidentally overdosing on sleeping pills as a result, as this drug's use was at a particular high point right around the time the book was published.
Even modern-day sleeping pills like diphenhydramine HCl carry a serious risk of overdose. Too much Benadryl can cause seizures and nasty tactile hallucinations. It sucks. Speaking from experience.
@@RabblesTheBinx This is why I try not to take any drugs unless absolutely necessary, obviously these days they all tell you the risks but they never really explain just how big a risk each pill is.
I remember all those scary anti-drug ads back in the 90's and early 2000's saying how a single pill of ecstasy can kill you but not much about how dangerous normal drugs can be...
@@mrcheesemunch I mean, just take them as directed and you'll be fine. It takes a lot of benadryl to OD
My heart squeezed a little at watching all those books burn. If anyone tried to come in and burn all of my books, I'd set THEM on fire.
Othelie Moor
I know right, why do people get so bent out of shape when murders kill people? I mean they are only bags of meat
Othelie Moor Toss your phone in the water, set your laptop on fire, destroy all source of information you Have, blind yourself and rip out your ears. Information is information and books are information people cherish and they are deeply personal. I hate this specific book so much though.
Yes.
i use a kindle but if someone burned my video games however....
Book Addict 😅
It was amazing how well she was able to mimic your inflections and mannerisms. Great work, Erika!
I'm surprised you didn't at least give your quick thoughts on the HBO adaptation. You only briefly mentioned its existence and how divisive it was without stating what side you find yourself on. I have a hunch where your feelings lie, but don't want to assume
Dove Calderwood i assume hell do a video on it
Dove Calderwood I'm interested in that version, too, since it was mentioned.
She really did!
I'm guessing because the HBO movie is actually good
Yeah. I was worried at first but she really surprised me.
25:00 "Honestly I can't decide what's more unrealistic, that you could learn perfect recall, or that you could learn a whole book without it." Definitely perfect recall, considering that several people have actually memorised entire books in real life (though it takes several years). Fuck, there's one rather famous group of rabbis who have memorised the Masoretic Hebrew version of the TaNaKh (Jewish name for the Old Testament) so well, that you can pick a random page number, and then the number of a fiven word on that page, and they'll be able to tell you what the word is without even having to think about it.
There's a dude who memorized Stephen King's It because of its length and could do something similiar.
Not to mention the Iliad and the Koran, both of which were traditionally memorized and recited. The prospect of memorizing a whole book is daunting today - after all, why should we memorize it if it's already printed? - but it's certainly doable.
There are people who have memorized the Bible, and more who have memorized individual books of the Bible. I knew a girl who in 3rd grade could perform all of the dialogue and songs from Disney's Lion King from memory. It just takes commitment/obsession and perhaps a brain that lets you focus on such detail for hours on end.
Funny story about the censored version. I had to read this in 9th grade, and my school offered copies that mentioned the censorship and that this version isn't censored. I didn't bother with it, because I had my own copy from the library's used book store. This teacher usually required us to read parts outloud. Everything was fine and dandy until we got two thirds in the book and I read some line and everyone corrected me. I had to show my teacher the line....and I had the censored book. It was one hell of a coincidence. Ended up giving it to her afterward. Makes me wonder how many other copies of the censored version are floating around confusing everyone...
When I read the book, I felt it was less about censorship and more about alienation. The way Mrs Motag's "friends" on her walls were more real to her than he own husband is a prime example. Bradbury notoriously hated television and I wonder if he felt that media aimed solely at a single person would become the norm and drive people apart.
The censorship in the book isn’t by the government but by the people who were scared by the ideas in books, so I think that supports your idea. Familial units inspire deep feelings that clearly terrify this society because no one cares about their spouse and no one cares for children
Can confirm that I waste approximately 10% of my day due to breast shenanigans.
Alex Tamburro what?
@@ianscarath4083 She's referring to this section: th-cam.com/video/jRBHEWEKl8U/w-d-xo.html
Fahrenheit 452 is the best sequel title ever. I don't care what the plot is. It needs to exist just so that we can have that title.
Micko Dooku what about "Two Kill a Mockingbird"
Ready, player, two.
Fahrenheit 902: The Reckoning
First Blood 2: Second Blood
Roaming Roman. Fahrenheit 452 II: still fahrenheitin'
I personally felt that Mildred’s suicide at the beginning of the book was intentional as the way it’s portrayed and the way she tries to act like it didn’t happen after always gave me that impression
she did wonderful as "fem dom" xD
Haha, stop...
YES
saucy!
Amazing!
Kinky
i think they probably focused on the back of his head so that when they killed the random guy, people wouldn't have memorised Montag's (idk how to spell his name) face, so they could have just killed anyone and said it was Montag. I assume this was a time before things could be recorded, so that's what stuck in people's minds.
I'm legit surprised Calluna didn't star as Polyjuiced Dom
Overlord Thraka I know, right??
In universe that would be pretty weird...
why? would it shock anyone that Terence pulls that kind of stuff. and at lest it would explain where he got the hair.
It would for Calluna, to find one day that her boyfriend is now herself...
Calluna is busy with her own stuff.
"you're not the boss of me pervert" OH MY GOD I CANT STOP LAUGHING!!!!! THAT HAD ME WHEEZING
You can survive with a long life being near a nuclear explosion. A Japanese guy was unlucky to be caught in the middle of both nuclear explosions. Going to one place for work and getting caught in the explosion, then going home and getting caught in the other. He died in 2010 at 94. So possible, just unlikely. (BTW his name is Tsutomu Yamaguchi)
If they avoid the fallout they should be fine. The lethal radiation pulse of most nuclear explosions is smaller than the lethal fireball and blast radius.
Course those were more primitive atomic bombs, about a decade or so later more advance and devastating bombs were created. It's still very possible to survive but the chances are a lot lower then the bombs dropped in Japan.
point was, it's possible for the people in the book to survive when they were only on the outskirts of the explosion.
@@Seomus But that's the thing...the characters at the end of the book were walking RIGHT BACK INTO THE FALLOUT AREA! Even at the age of thirteen when I read this, I knew that was off. It's probably down to ignorance of how nuclear weapons worked...the original novella The Fireman was written in 1950 and the F451 that we know was published in 1953--only five to eight years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. So it's possible that the after-effects of nuclear weapons weren't widely known by that point--Bradbury seemed to think that the cities would be destroyed but life outside of them would go on just fine.
Tbf, Yamaguchi didn't get caught *in* either blast, he was just near enough to get a seriously nasty dose of radiation poisoning. Still super-unlucky.
"You are not a boss of me, pervert!"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
"A quick war, that's what they said. Just a quick war" that line has literally never left me since high school, Ray Bradbury was such an amazing author
It's so weird to have Clarisse be nearly the same age as Montag. (Remember, he was 30 in the book, and she was 16 and almost 17.) They described themselves as having a father-daughter relationship, something Montag really did want because Mildred didn't want any.
That suggests them possibly getting together and that *unnerves* me greatly.
Anyways, great review! It was funny to hear her call herself a British male.
I always low-key shipped them* and never minded the age gap so much. It's less of an age gap than Scarlett and Rhett, or Jane Eyre and Edward Rochester...
*Even in seventh grade, I never believed that Clarisse was really dead, and my teacher agreed that I could be right. After all, we only get accounts of her death second-hand, from unreliable sources (Mildred) or self-interested ones (Beatty). If they could fabricate Montag's death to save face and cover up the fact that he'd slipped through the cracks, they could have done the same with Clarisse...after all, it seems odd that if she were killed, her family would just pack up and move immediately. To me, that says that they cleared out because the government had too close an eye on them for their non-conformities. In Bradbury's own stage play version, this was revealed to be the case!
We've lengthened the period of childhood beyond any in history. The age of consent has been 17 in the UK for a long time. Lady Diana was 17 when she started dating Prince Charles, who was 30. Yes, a 13-year age difference.
@@edennis3202 bro he considered her to be like his daughter :|
Creep ass
This was one of my favorite reads in high school; we also watched the original film after completing the book. In dark irony, a friend of mine lost his copy of the book in a house fire; we all had a morbid laugh about that. Thankfully my friend and his family were safe and unharmed, but losing their home was awful
Love the intro sequence! Also, I love how creative you were with not recording this one! Most TH-camrs would just say, "I'm ill, so have a different host for a bit," but your way is much better! Keep up the great work, and get well soon!
My school have a system why depending on how smart you are you can only read particular books and my parents said I should not listen to them and read this book at school and see there expressions when they get my not so subtle metaphors
I really don't know how to feel about this comment. It lies somewhere between a relatable comment complaining about a system that doesn't work very well and the average r/iamverysmart post.
@@fruitygarlic3601 I'm familiar with how _age_ recommendations work for US schools, but never a "how smart you are" library system. If and when anything like school books is "only allowed" to people of a certain age or grade, it is often due to the supply of the books and the need for kids that grade to read it for an assignment. @Ivy It is awesome to hear you love to read and I share your exuberance to know way more than I _need_ to. Just be careful not to assume you are better than others or shove it in anyone's face needlessly; especially, not with anything as witless as an unsubtle metaphor.
Has*, where*, their*
I mean, you might need to go back to less difficult material.
Truffaut was known for being pretty experimental with his films at the time (being one of the founders of the French New Wave).
He was the most prominent French filmmaker of his time & even still decades after his death. During the production, Oskar Werner had to be the on-set translator since Truffaut didn’t speak English; Germany & Austria kinda borrowed words from the French but it’s also one of the languages taught in schools
29:35 "These are so distracting, how do women get anything done?"
*looks down at boobs
Good question.
Anyway, great video again! Hopefully your illness goes away and you feel better Dom! :3
Now this brings me back! I think it was the first Ray Bradbury book I read as a class assignment, which lead to me reading a ton more on my own time. We also watched the movie as part of our class and talked about the adaptation.
Of course, this also brings back the memory of a girl asking why burning books was a bad thing, and then trying to argue that TV was better for your mind because you had to use two senses and books only required one... life imitating art...
Okay, this was a cool gimmick. Thumbs up, Erika! :)
Great way to cover this one 🙂 I’d watch Calluna host again; either one her own or with Dom
Could you do 1984 by George Orwell next?
Seconded
Thirded
Fourth...ed?
Fifededth
Sixedethed.
Great video! I like the casting of Julie Christie in both roles, as it does pick up on the comparisons Montag makes between both women in the novel while also avoiding the ick factor of the book's age discrepancy. I also like the fact that Clarisse is given more to do in the film, basically taking the place of Faber, as she is given a greater sense of agency and is not just the manic pixie dream girl who's sole function is to further the hero's development and then be chucked out after serving said function.
Would you ever consider doing the count of monte cristo? We just read the book and watched the movie in my lit class. I loved the book, and was shocked at how much the movie altered.
Yeah, I watched the movie for extra credit in my english class (after we read the book), and the number of changes is staggering.
One of my cousins was named for a character in that
There’s also the anime. Granted it took a huge number of liberties but it would be a rather fascinating look at why they were done.
I haven't read the Count of Monte Cristo in its entirety, but every source I can find always notes that the plot is very detailed and convoluted. So I can imagine a "word for word" adaptation would be very difficult, if not impossible, to pull off.
Which movie? There have been 14.
‘Tis the epic return of my favorite book/movie series! I love it!
He missed an opportunity to have Erika do the patreon section for in universe consistency
So, having basically just found this channel and this series, I'm loving it. Movie adaptations of books is a real tricky thing, and I'll be glued to this series going forward. I know it's unlikely that you'll ever get around to having done ALL adaptations to ever prance across the silver screen, but I'll keep my fingers crossed to maybe eventually see Bridge to Terebithia, Inkheart, or Scott Pilgrim.
The comment about the ending sort of negating the character's quest to restore knowledge and books is really unfair. Yes, at the time the book was written (very shortly after ww2), the long lasting effects of nuclear weapons were mostly unknown by the public, and in regards to the kinda optimistic tone of the ending, by the author as well. Hell, he talks about the re-opening of asbestos factories, we were not in a time when the concept of mutagen agents or radiation poisoning were known AT ALL by the public.
You should do The Golden Compass. A book that I really loved and a film that, lets just say made some confusing choices.
Wow what a weird coincidence. Hadn't read this book since high school then decided on a whim to pick it up a few days ago.
It does have extras but I haven't looked at them yet. It's the 60th anniversary edition
Grievousish Yo lol what world!
We read this book in my sophomore english class, and the teacher made us write essays on the contrasting parallels between Clarisse and Mildred
Honestly, I always assumed the "back of the head" thing in the cinematography was a visual Easter Egg to 1984, where Winston is shot in the head at the end of the book.
It could also be an overall foreshadow on Montag turning his back on society.
This review makes having to read this rather depressing book back in high school worth it. (It's an interesting book, don't get me wrong, but I have vivid memories of breaking down into tears when I found out Clarice had died.) Especially since you explain the messages much better than my teacher at the time did. 😊❤️ great new intro by the way!
New Girl is nice. Miss Doms voice though.
I honestly loved the ending of that book, although I feel sorry for the professor, I really hoped that Montage's wife stepped out of that apartment and saw those planes, realizing that he was right
Considering the state of cinema at present, it always strikes me as rather funny when someone refers to an older film being "a particularly well-made film for it's time" as if well crafted films are a recent phenomenon.
I’ll be honest, I still love the book Fahrenheit 451… I find it the best book I was forced to read in High School…
AnimeLuchia The best book I was forced to read in high school was Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World.”
One of my favorites as well, although I put it after To Kill a Mockingbird in the had to read for school category. I've never read Brave New World, maybe I should!
Mine's is Animal Farm or this one
I don't know if it's still in print, but in 2011 Bradbury published A Pleasure To Burn, an anthology that included the earliest version of F451, the novella The Fireman (in which the protagonist is named LEONARD Montag, and the society's tech is closer to then-present day tech). It also included many other Bradbury stories whose themes helped to influence the writing of F451.
So... Erika is who exactly? A friend? A cousin? A family member in-law? Well ether way, she does a pretty good job! She doesn’t have your charisma, your eyebrow, or your thrall over my heart, but she’s great nonetheless! You know, most of my personal library has been replaced and added to by books you’ve LIA’d, so thanks for keeping me vaguely intelligent!
She's an actress.
Oh neat! Well, where I give you a 9/10, I'd give her an 8/10. She's great! My only issue is that the writing sort of doesn't fit her voice and mannerisms. I know that's the point of the polyjuice and that you can't really help it, but still. For example, there's times when I imagine you raising an eyebrow, but it doesn't happen, and part of my soul squeezes a little. Ah well, nothing you can do. Get well soon, Dom! Do you need some Gaviscon? Gaviscon heals all wounds. It's like Jesus!
True, she doesn't have the eyebrow, but she does have those... um... distracting things. ;-)
Eh, not so distracting for me. I mean, yeah, I get distracted by them, but It's probably about half as much as you get distracted by them.
Geoff Trowbridge totally unnecessary
And there was me thinking that Terence wouldn’t be back until the FBAWTFT 2 review. It’s great that you can keep working him in so much. He’s my favourite character.
I especially liked your (well Erika’s ) line about killing him a second time after the HBP review.
I'm still trying to figure out how anybody even knows how to read in a world where written stuff all but doesn't exist.
School.
@@edennis3202 But why would they teach people how to read at all if they find it to be such a huge problem?
When I was in 7th grade (I think it was 7th....), we covered this book and this film adaptation in English Lit class. This movie bored and confused me back then. I honestly didn't actually read it like I was assigned to, and I mentally checked out while doing any in class group readings.... now that I'm in my late 20s, though, I really want to revisit this book. It seems very thought provoking and scarily relevant to America today.
(P.s.: I would LOVE to see an episode on "The Outsiders." Its one of very few books that actually bypassed my sevier ADHD issues enough that I'd sit still to read it. Wasn't bad on my dyslexia either. I also read it for school in 7th grade, actually. Lol)
You can memorize an entire book. I have a friend who grew up in China and one of their tests in school was to memorize a book and write it out word-for-word.
Olivia Stratton that sounds amazing if you can master it but awful to try to attempt.
Holy crap!
Did you know what Soviets made their own version as well? Well, actually it was not a movie, more like tv show episode, but still its interesting. Although I'm afraid nobody has translated it into English.
Really? I’d like to see that. I bet the take is very interesting
In Soviet Russia books burn you!
The Mad Lolita seek for the "451 градус по Фаренгейту советская версия" and you'll find it.
I saw that There Will Come Soft Rains animated short once. Don't remember the author, but I felt it was well done.
@@CyberSpider35 I can't seem to find it; the only thing approximtely close is "Этот фантастический мир. Выпуск 10. Знак саламандры", is that it?
I read the book before I saw the movie. I know the movie was out about the same time I discovered science fiction, but I saw the movie because I totally fell in love with Oskar Werner from seeing him in The Shoes of the Fisherman. Honestly, he should've had a lot more movies, and I am sadden to learn he died so young.
I like the twist with Erika here, can't watch the review right now but I have read this one, so this will be a good time for me.
Couple observations: 1) You said "Whatever country it's set in." It's in the US. They clearly state that "The United States has started and won two nuclear wars since 1960" I think that was during Montag's rant
2) When the book was written, our modern concepts of nuclear war didn't exist yet. The way of thinking about them was pretty primitive. You find this in other books from the period, like "Alas, Babylon," where there simply isn't a lot of radiation, so long as you stay out of the actual ground zero.
In the early 50s, there weren't any ICBMs yet, so bombs had to be delivered by bombers, which could be shot down, so complete destruction was unlikely, though it'd be really, really bad. Basically, when this book was written the thinking was "Nuclear war will be a reset button that will take us back to the 19th century, and we can start again."
3) This is just me being pedantic, sorry. You said that ending with a nuclear war makes eveyrthing that came before "Redundant." I think you mean "Superfluous."
Good review, though, and a fun video. Thank you for doing it!
Add to the fact that Montag also specifically mentioned L.A. in one instance of the book
@@lilmissiamsodonehere_2399 Yeah, and there's that, too. :)
God, this was an incredible novel
Might I also add that I like how Bradbury doesn't really go for a straight delineation of "TV bad, print good." At one point Faber tells Montag that the same depth and dimension of the best books COULD be part of televised entertainment, but that's not in the government's interest. Just as television around the time Bradbury wrote this could either be schlock like "Queen for a Day" (where the woman with the biggest sob story got showered in prizes) or well-written drama like the original teleplay version of Twelve Angry Men.
She's so pretty
I swear every time I see a review of a future dystopia I feel the deep and intense need to point out Kallocain. IT'S SUCH A GOOD BOOK
Edit: i found a two part movie adaptation of it online and now I'm crying at 6am... damn Karin Boye and her beautiful descriptions of emotional states!
Fahrenheit 451 was in the restricted reading section in my high school library. Which it meant you had to have 2 teachers, and your parents to read it.
Thanks. As to the flat-screen TVs, Star Trek also shows them in some episodes - though mostly as monitors of some kind, rather than TVs specifically. See "Requiem for Methuselah" for example. Sci-fi has a remarkably consistent record of showing (or describing, I suppose) what technology might look like in the future. Trek alone showed advanced hospital bed monitoring systems, automatic sliding doors, flip phones, and all kinds of things we have now. A lot of it seems as if the author just considers what's out there now, and thinks, 'what if you could...' I love it. 𝖙𝖆𝖛𝖎.
Dammit Dom, you made me jump up from my seat after I saw your notification from a awesome book.
Also when are you going to do George Orwell 1984 books and their versions?
Isn't there just the 1984 (haha) adaptation with John Hurt? Actually that makes his V for Vendetta role more meta
Ben Wasserman
I'm being serious, there is multiple versions of 1984 made in movie format or play format.
I'm not joking.
Ohh.... Didn't realize that
Ben Wasserman
Seriously, do some research on the web of how many adaptation of 1984 there are!
Dom might need to do an awards thingy again. That would actually be a lot of fun :)
Not really surprised by the large amount of animal cruelty in the book, I think it is an attempt by the author to show that too much TV exposure will turn you into sociopath, kinda like the people who blame school shooting on video games these days.
I'm a bit confused. Blaming school shootings on videogames is obviously a bullshit, so by comparing the author to people that do that, are you or are you not trying to say that the author was a bit bullshitty in some questions as well?
Way back in the 1960's a monorail was an icon of The Future ;-)
I've noticed a lot of films from the 50s, 60s and 70s just kind of end, rather than trying to find a natural stopping point for a self-enclosed story, or ending on a cliffhanger for part of a franchise.
One of my favorite books meets one of my favorite TH-camrs. Nothing can go wrong with this.
I do think that it's possible to memorize an entire book. I think it depends on which book, of course (war & peace might be a bit of a stretch), but especially poetry has a long history of being recited almost perfectly. There used to be storytellers who could retell hourlong stories word for word, travelling. I think, with enough studying and effort put in, short books and even long books that are in rhyme could definitely be memorized, although after a few generations, the story would probably still change quite a bit.
I've read the book a few times and seen both films. I consider it to be my favorite book. My class in 8th grade read it with my teacher (greatest teacher I've ever had). When we finished some of us were discussing it with her and she mentioned there was a movie. So some us insisted we watch it as an end of year event. She basically told me, "if you love the book that much, you'll hate the movie". I watched it and she was right.
I can respect artistic adaptation, The Shining is my favorite movie, but there were things they kept that I didn't always think needed to, but changed things that were important. The way they changed all the characters broke my heart.
But the HBO version, WOW that was so bad. I was even willing to let the 60's version slide. Seeing as how much we've advanced, I expected a better movie but it was so much worse. They ruined Clarisse. It's just awful.
I think Erika really nailed the script in some points (in regards to sounding like you), like the bit where they talk about the film focusing on the back of morag's head being symbolic of something when they said "I must confess". v good job, i genuinely enjoyed this vid, even though the Dom wasn't in it. guess it goes to show how much i value good content more than anything else :P
What was that old saying? Oh: *"The pen is mightier than the sword."*
I really like her :) miss you too dom
I can't believe this has just happened........my favourite book of all time reviewed by my favourite youtuber and its AMAZING
Or “Why you always read both sides of a note”
i'm probably one of the like 5 people who never read this book for school or watched the film, but I changed that recently by doing both and as you noted in the review how the subtext of the firemen being like the gestapo are not particularly subtle in the movie, I thought it was a Definite choice for Montag to be portrayed by an Austrian actor, a man who will have undoubtedly seen/experienced book burnings in his younger years.
Also fun fact - Oskar Werner did his own synchronisation work for the German dub of this film, which he did for a few of his more well known films, where he voiced himself ("Decision Before Dawn"). It actually it what got him noticed in the British/American film markets and got him roles in English films in the first place ("Angel with a Trumpet").
I had don't know why, but I had no idea Truffaut did this film! I used to love this film. Huh. Glad I watched this :) It makes me want to read (and watch) the book again :3
tbf, there IS a scene in the book when the Book People do kind of introduce themselves AS the books:
"Would you like, some day, Montag, to read Plato's
Republic?"
"Of course!"
"I am Plato's Republic. Like to read Marcus Aurelius? Mr. Simmons
is Marcus."
"How do you do?" said Mr. Simmons.
"Hello," said Montag.
"I want you to meet Jonathan Swift, the author of that evil political book, Gulliver's Travels! And this other fellow is Charles Darwin, and this one is Schopenhauer, and this one is Einstein, and this one here at my elbow is Mr. Albert Schweitzer, a very kind philosopher indeed."
I was hoping you would cover this!!!
As for the fireman following him, he's a foil for the hero since the hero was angry at him when he ate the apple. The hero was so strict, but he changed in the end, in contrast to the other guy.
About the title: The author had apparently called up his local fire station multiple times and eventually they just gave him a random number.
Well. Normally paper ignites at about 200 C so at least the number is quite accurate.
Part way through I started imagining the Dom himself saying each word and it greatly enhances the experience
I gotta say. Erica did a great job here. She has a voice for narration. Good choice. Heal up dom. Get well man
To say that it seems strange that was still portrayed as a airheaded child is to very sweetly overlook all the times in cinema that was the case for women who are written at any age...
Nice way to get content out there whilst under the weather. 😀
If Montag's wife liked to drive at night and run things over... maybe she ran over Clarice as well? That just came to my mind. Has someone else mentioned that?
I remember both reading the book and seeing this movie adaptation right after it in middle school; it's reminiscent for me, looking at comparing and contrasting the two. My teacher even said that she'd have loved to see a more modern adaptation, if to see what a big budget movie would do for the futuristic technologies (and the hounds, now THAT would be great). It's enough for me to see thoughts on a classic dystopian story.
Hey Dom, I’m still hoping for a Lost in Adaptation for Divergent!! Also, first!!!
I remember my high school class was suppose to watch this film after we read the book. I loved this book a lot and was looking forward to it. However most of my classmates hated this book and didn’t want to see the movie so my teacher gave up on it and we watched an Alfred Hitchcock movie instead. My classmates still complained about that choice too😒
Ironically, I'm cataloging my family's library while listening to this.
I liked the opening credits to this film, how they reflected the premise of the story.
This was wonderful! (also props for the creativity in working around needing to rest your voice!) May I also ask if you've considered doing a Lost in Adaptation for either The Girl With All the Gifts, or Annihilation?
The radiation thing is maybe weirdly wrong. There was a guy who was close to both Hiroshima and Nagasaki and survived both, and lived into his 90's.
I... I can't get over it 😵
I mean, she's great and all, but this is like listening to Harry Potter and it's not Stephen Fry 😱
What do you mean?
Just that it's a different voice doing the LostInAdaptation.
I'm not bothered by another voice as much as by her American accent, especially on this channel.
Martina R. That definitely adds to it 🤔
Dam dominic I've followed you for 4 years from the start of hunger to the now I've watched and I'm happy to be a as you say beautiful watcher
I remember reading the book in high school I was a junior when I read it I loved the book
I never thought I'd have to picture how the Dom would look and sound like as a pretty blonde American lady, but I think this is a pretty good adaptation! WINK!!!!
Loved the Fallout reference. The song was already playing in my head before she said it. "I dont want to set the world on fire..."