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  • @ianworley8169
    @ianworley8169 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    In my little village in Alto Alentejo, Portugal, most of the residents have nicknames to distinguish them from the many other Antonios, Juans, Joses etc. One of my neighbours is known as Antonio 'Freirinha', or Little Nun. He and his ancestors carry that nickname because many, many years ago, one of them was a gardener boy at the local convent. He was caught one day, en flagrante with a young novice of the order. She was dismissed and both were made to marry before the child was born. From that day forward, their descendants were known as the Little Nuns. I do love my little village.

    • @travellerstoryteller
      @travellerstoryteller ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Muito bom, companheiro!! 😂😂😂

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤❤❤

    • @bilindalaw-morley161
      @bilindalaw-morley161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What a wonderful story. Thank you for sharing it.

    • @SweetChicagoGator
      @SweetChicagoGator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@travellerstoryteller
      Obrigado !! 😁

    • @bebereyes5514
      @bebereyes5514 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The same thing in my town. Some families have monikers as special description, like, "Mantika"(oil), "kabag" (air in the belly that becomes a fart when you break wind), kamisola (a woman's inner garment), balde( bucket), sampalok(tamarind), my family lineage is kuping( outstretched ears). A quick and funny way to skim through all the generations and pin point your original ancestry.

  • @davidjones535
    @davidjones535 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    One of my many times great grandmother's left Ireland for America in 1740 at the age of 15 because she didn't want to be a Nun and 35 years later 2 of her sons fought in the American Revolution the oldest at the battle of Breads Hill and the second son was at Valley Forge and her youngest son and grandson fought in the war of 1812 all because she didn't want to become a Nun .

    • @jaynesegman7847
      @jaynesegman7847 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      interest ng

    • @wewenang5167
      @wewenang5167 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      WELL YOUR GREAT NAN SHOULD CONVERT TO ORTHODOX CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE A NUN AND PRIEST IN ORTHODOXY CAN GET MARRIED AND HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF THE MONASTERY XD.

    • @mellie4174
      @mellie4174 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@

    • @wingatebarraclough3553
      @wingatebarraclough3553 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      She wouldn't have none of that, then ;)

    • @sandraadkins6933
      @sandraadkins6933 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No orthodox nuns cannot marry once taken vows..in orthodox Christain church you can have married priest s but the catch is that they have to be married BEFORE they become orthodox priests..once becoming a priest you cannot marry..even if your wife dies unless you don't want to be a priest anymore.

  • @susisujetin
    @susisujetin ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Monasteries and convents in my country (Bolivia) are said to be connected through underground tunnels; last time the sewer system had to be updated in the area of Cochabamba's cathedral, a tunnel was found and it contained the bones of little children. The nearest convent was two blocks away.

  • @saintjacques8137
    @saintjacques8137 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Thank you Chronicle. I don't know if anyone's interested but Schwerpunkt made tens of videos on Medieval monasticism, especially connected with the Gregorian Reforms, I strongly recommend them

    • @simmonsgalloway8466
      @simmonsgalloway8466 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @courtneyriley185
      @courtneyriley185 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@gaslitworldf.melissab2897they will just have to watch this video 🎉

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤🎶

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @gaslitworldf.melissab2897 every dig in the world since the 1970s or so cross references and proves or disproves prior digs. i promise we live in a connected world now :)

  • @ginnyjollykidd
    @ginnyjollykidd ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm glad to see a documentary that shows the wayward and opportunistic sides of research in Archaeology.
    Research is never straightforward. But it yields results heretofor unseen. I'm glad you don't dismiss them in your original quest.
    I wish you all a fruitful discovery.

  • @bobjackson4720
    @bobjackson4720 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    In the 1960's my uncle (a former UK army officer) used to visit this US base in Bedfordshire. On his return he would bring Toosie Rolls, which were the best sweets I ever tasted.

    • @lindadeal3344
      @lindadeal3344 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tootsie pops are even better!

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤🎶🎶🎶

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that totally makes me smile. the grand daughter of the founder of the company that makes tootsie rolls ended up being the CEO of tootsie roll industries and controlling about 85 percent of the USAs sweets production capacity LOL. theyre among my favorites as well. now if only we could have mars bars here my life would be complete. if you would like to arrange some trading via post, id be happy to ship you a few kilos of tootsie rolls in exchange for a box of mars bars for sure.

  • @patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558
    @patriciatoomingtheplantpar2558 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow look at the crowd!
    Wish you had another 3 days, I was truly invested!

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis
    @TheTenthDoctorandHisTardis ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Because I can’t resist…BALDRICK! It’s good to see you! 😅

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this episode is 28 years old hehe

  • @Wayne-O-5169
    @Wayne-O-5169 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Would love to hear more about the osteoarcheology, especially carbon dating of the bones to confirm that they were actually uncovering what they thought they were. The skull and its associated bones looked remarkably well preserved for bone that was supposed to be in the soil for nearly a thousand years (with internment in roughly the eleventh to thirteenth centuries).

    • @13minutestomidnight
      @13minutestomidnight ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Soil conditions and how the body was interred can all affect bone preservation significantly - and I mean bones buried at the same time can be utterly corroded or preserved intact depending on the circumstances, Their osteoarcheologist does take bone preservation into account and judge soil conditions.
      The stratigraphy and other archeological dating evidence can confirm the time period the bones were buried; Radio carbon dating is just one tool of many that can be used, but isn't really necessary depending on the circumstances. Obviously radio carbon dating is used when possible, even if just to provide another independent scientific test to confirm their findings, but enough evidence can exist from other sources.

    • @dthomas9230
      @dthomas9230 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@13minutestomidnight The brackish Baltic preserves wooden ships, and peat bogs almost mummify their organic contents, or create a Nessie

    • @sandyferreira9800
      @sandyferreira9800 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      13minutes.... Strange that you don't mention what horror and destruction King Henry 8th did to his peoples:
      Forcing them to convert to Protestantism:
      The Roman Catholic Priests, who refused to convert, where hunted, caught, imprisoned " drawn & quarted" their
      body parts were displayed on long poles put in the villages and cities around England, showm as a example if you do not accept Protestantism :
      Maybe England has forgotten this !!

    • @Wayne-O-5169
      @Wayne-O-5169 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fritula6200 Not sure why you have a bee in your bonnet about the 16th century King Henry VIII and this documentary about a monastery from the 13th century. While perhaps semi-adjacent time periods, they cover a span of over 300 years. I don’t think that the English or these documentarians have forgotten the struggles that took place between Catholic and Protestant factions in England, a national civil war arose from that transition. It just has little to do with an archeological excavation of a monastery that predates those events.

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for posting.

  • @TihetrisWeathersby
    @TihetrisWeathersby ปีที่แล้ว +19

    We know they were getting it on, The pious life of a monk could only get you do far

  • @jeanpeuplu5570
    @jeanpeuplu5570 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many thanks for that exclusive content !

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its not exclusive theres four youtube channels with the entire series plus the official channel with new crowd funded episodes. chronicle is just licensing these.

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a great one. Thanks❤

  • @13minutestomidnight
    @13minutestomidnight ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thankyou for uploading these Time Team episodes, they're brilliant. It's funny how the Gilbertine nuns proudly told the tale of how they tortured and murdered a man (to say nothing of what they did to the girl) all to validate their own order by the bs claim of a miracle. Serves them right for allowing someone (and a child at that) to be forcefully imprisoned in their own order in the first place.
    ...Whenever I hear that story I do honestly hope that was just a propaganda cover-up for the fact that the girl stabbed the nuns enforcing this atrocity instead.

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Gilbertine Order of Canons Regular was founded around 1130 by Saint Gilbert in Sempringham, Lincolnshire, where Gilbert was the parish priest.
      It was the only completely English religious order, meaning not brought in from outside, it was founded in England.
      It came to an end in the 16th century at the time of the Dissolution of the Monasteries which King Henry 8th destroyed and slaughtered the religious and taken all their monasteries and lands, then distributed all this property to the Lords & Earls who accepted Protestantism, who became wealthy over night:
      Gilbertine revivals have taken place in the late 20th and early 21st centuries on three continents.
      The Monastery is a closed Order:
      Yes, the story of the girl was true.
      Saint Gilbert initially established a community for enclosed contemplative nuns.
      He accepted seven women whom he had taught in the village school and n 1131 founded an order of nuns based on the Cistercian Rule.
      Gilbert set up buildings and a cloister for them against the north wall of the church, which stood on his land at Sempringham, and gave them a rule of life, enjoining upon them chastity, humility, obedience, and charity.
      Their daily necessaries were passed to them through a window

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤

  • @DanielMatthews-ql3wf
    @DanielMatthews-ql3wf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem is Henry VIII dissolved the church lands to make himself rich and in doing so he made it possible for people to takedown all the old buildings and replace them with new.

    • @AnnetteMurphyger
      @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was a complete hypocrite snd died a Roman Catholic and got William Tyndell burned at the Stake for daring to translate the Vulgate Latin Bible into English .

  • @jaynesegman7847
    @jaynesegman7847 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    🔅 wow!

  • @holland9199
    @holland9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ohh no😱tell me it isn’t so 🤣🤣🤣 (about those late Saturday nights and the tunnels 😂)

  • @alanatolstad4824
    @alanatolstad4824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Way-to-go Jennie.

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing

  • @chuzzthefuzz1908
    @chuzzthefuzz1908 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Talk about click-bait! However, in spite of the lack of juicy scandal, I really enjoyed it, as always.

  • @stardanya2114
    @stardanya2114 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cloistered life still is as she experienced it. Everything is done as a sacrifice and prayer for others. Not talking is to make reparation for those who sin through speaking such as to lie, slander, etc. keeping eyes cast down is to make reparation for sins with ones eyes. Just examples. Sleeping on a thin bed on a hard wooden frame, going hungry, going without sleep, all of it was a life of prayer and sacrifice. Not just when they went to the chapel to pray. Well done showing this. And yes, the habits were supposed to be uncomfortable too.

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Re Jenny's "nice rest" on the tiles this punishment, called a penance, was still around even in the 20th century. However i don't know how common it was by then.
    It could even be self imposed, and if you went to sleep you dobbed yourself in even if you got away with it.and suffered for more time. The tiles were always arthritically cold. Sometimes nuns were told to, or voluntarily, chanted prayers for forgiveness or the Hail Mary, I think to show you were awake.
    It was thought that mortifying one's earthly body was good for the soul and glorified God. Hence the poor diet even when monasteries and convents were rich, breaking sleep, not being warm, etc.
    Likewise usually distractions away from religious contemplation and learning were frowned upon and so were lucuries. Nun's bedrooms were called cells and even last century (maybe now?) were as tiny as possible with a single bed, hard mattress and one plain blanket. You were allowed a crucifix and perhaps one religious picture on your walls.
    It could be a very hard life but, perhaps through self hypnosis or brainwashing the people who chose it claimed to find contentment.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      opus dei practices all those ancient rituals. including self whipping and the wearing of a belt of metal hooks on ones thigh called a cilice belt. creeps me out to be honest.

  • @mgm6076
    @mgm6076 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anybody know the music rhey used? Thank you!

  • @hannahbrown2728
    @hannahbrown2728 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dont know whats been going on lately but this is the third episode this week I havent seen before. I really wish yall would make a robust playlist across all your accounts of each season episode by episode. But then again maybe I havent looked hard enough.

    • @habib-jr3vh
      @habib-jr3vh ปีที่แล้ว

      Christianity is a brutal criminal enterprise, read the Koran in your language, it will soothe your injured spiritual body. You can find the Koran even online, just read it without bias and Allah will guide you if HE will. ❤❤🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶

  • @kasie680
    @kasie680 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran into a door kiddies! 😂

  • @pgk60
    @pgk60 ปีที่แล้ว

    They found Joseph’s sweater of many colors.

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so crazy

  • @sherryrector2275
    @sherryrector2275 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sooo why is it the Nun are called the Naughty Nuns. Maybe it was the the Monks.

    • @holland9199
      @holland9199 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well that’s just a given 😂😂😂

    • @andershansson2245
      @andershansson2245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The original Time Team title is "The Naughty Monastery" (Series 9 episode 4, premiered 2002) but for some really stupid reason these channels, who actually have official access to the TT material rarey bother to list any of that.

  • @paullough4946
    @paullough4946 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 19:53...The prospective Nuns hair was also a symbol of LICE! So, yeah, it's got to go...

    • @stoppit9
      @stoppit9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean...they still wear clothes they apparently never wash

  • @aariley2
    @aariley2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HaHa!🤣😂🤣😂
    How did they come up with that??!?

  • @WendyDarling1974
    @WendyDarling1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite part of this was 24 hours as none. I’m sure they did give her a lot to think about in the aftermath.

  • @HumanBeanbag
    @HumanBeanbag ปีที่แล้ว

    2:04 leave her, you deserve better than that! 😢

  • @aaronstclair2423
    @aaronstclair2423 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Stewart looks like my grandfather. He was an Ainsworth (technically makes me Ainsworth as much as a StClair). We're all American from pretty much colonial times though. I don't know how closely we could possibly be related if at all, but Stewart resembles my grandfather a great deal. Even his hands...weird. Lol.

  • @George1966ism
    @George1966ism ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Poor Jenny!

  • @mil_enrama
    @mil_enrama ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One must wonder if Baldrick's father was a Gilbertine 🤔

    • @franc9111
      @franc9111 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he was a Sullavaine.

  • @meg7915
    @meg7915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you hit your head on the front door? 😂

  • @franc9111
    @franc9111 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was this the case of the blue nun ?

  • @fritula6200
    @fritula6200 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nobody is trapped in the Roman Catholic Church:
    They can leave whenever they want.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol prior to the dissolution if you were a briton who refused to be catholic you would be at best shunned, at worst murdered. dont revise history.

  • @Brian1Graves
    @Brian1Graves ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was SOP, not unusual at all.

  • @alexandravladmets
    @alexandravladmets ปีที่แล้ว

    As a cat owner I´m used to getting up at 1.30 and 3.30 and 5.30 so iIwould make an excellent nun on the first day!😄

  • @elijahcartwright222
    @elijahcartwright222 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing Sweater

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Drinks with that fluffy Germsn Shephard dog?

  • @AnnaAnna-uc2ff
    @AnnaAnna-uc2ff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    first aired 27 January 2002

  • @freddenker9537
    @freddenker9537 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ...and please tell us at which spot did you find the condom machines???

  • @GodsOath_com
    @GodsOath_com ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The British monasteries waffled between Catholicism and Christianity over those centuries. The very early days were Christian.

    • @chrisrauber6602
      @chrisrauber6602 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Re-born evangelican? Right?

    • @patmanchester8045
      @patmanchester8045 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Funny, I always thought Catholics ARE Christians.

    • @chrisrauber6602
      @chrisrauber6602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patmanchester8045 And I bet 99 % of the world population would agree with u on that...
      Anyway, ask a member of e.g. the "Westboro Baptist Church" and u ll hear that the Catholic Church
      is a "demonic serpent worshipping cult" gg

    • @belleepoque2544
      @belleepoque2544 ปีที่แล้ว

      me too @@patmanchester8045

    • @fritula6200
      @fritula6200 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Early Church in England was Roman Catholic until King Henry 8th slaughtered the Catholics, for NOT CONVERTING TO PROTESTANTISM:
      THIS is horrendous, but the English pretend this didn't happen: And then the Protestants hate Catholic ???
      I wonder why ?

  • @karinavandamme804
    @karinavandamme804 ปีที่แล้ว

    and you were there in that time ? it's all a bit here-say...

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 ปีที่แล้ว

    So other than the unfortunate canon and young woman there is only one count of known naughtiness.

  • @VelkePivo
    @VelkePivo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I suppose it’s a British thing to call physical items “archeology,” as in, “there’s archeology in this trench.”

    • @thatlittlevoice6354
      @thatlittlevoice6354 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I flushed a huge archeology this afternoon.

    • @ditzygypsy
      @ditzygypsy ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that was interesting too. I’m Canadian, and we would probably use the word assemblage for a grouping of artifacts in a find or a dig.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      no, thats an archaeologist thing. we say the same here in the states.

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ditzygypsy its an assemblage of finds in a tray, its archaeology, or an archaeological deposit in the trench.

  • @bluepov
    @bluepov ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Military intelligence is an oxymoron.

    • @janaleland9038
      @janaleland9038 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      How long have you waited to key that tiny morsel?

    • @bluepov
      @bluepov ปีที่แล้ว

      How long have you been a Negative Nancy, @@janaleland9038?

  • @robertbernard6410
    @robertbernard6410 ปีที่แล้ว

    sorry. nine Years of catholic nuns' kind of turned me off.

  • @turtlegrams6582
    @turtlegrams6582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And the tunnels ?!

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How naughty were those nuns?

  • @petervenema1443
    @petervenema1443 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Human nature does NOT change - nothing " naughty " went on - they acted like the sexual beasts that people are - only time and circumstances changed - and ultimately who cares - I hope they were happy and content !

  • @andyking957
    @andyking957 ปีที่แล้ว

    the play scenes of the "fake nun" using very bad bluescreen/CGI takes somewhat destroy the whole thing. Even if you showed it beeing fake near the end. It interupts the overall good video again and again with obviously "fake" content. Non-fake would include her really living in a real cell for herself and observing all services according to rule. Else you cannot speak from a realistic experience. No speaking, no cell phone between takes. Else well done Black Adder...

    • @joshschneider9766
      @joshschneider9766 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this was made 28 years ago. stop guttersniping.

    • @andershansson2245
      @andershansson2245 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was actually designed that way, so that morons like you would understand it wasn't for real, hopefully...

  • @dalekundtz760
    @dalekundtz760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many believe Tony hit his head on his front door? 🥴. Looks to me like his wife bonked him on the head with a Coke bottle.,. 😛

    • @thatlittlevoice6354
      @thatlittlevoice6354 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'll get her chocolate the next time she tells him, I bet.

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praying for whom?

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did they keep ftom getting cold without underwear?

  • @turtlegrams6582
    @turtlegrams6582 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    he didn't get a complete black eye because he's Not going to tell the Whole Truth !!!!!!!

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Typical sexism

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A unisex Monestary

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mary did not remain a vitgin all her life? Haha?

  • @AnnetteMurphyger
    @AnnetteMurphyger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Embroidery

  • @jamesanonymous2343
    @jamesanonymous2343 ปีที่แล้ว

    THE BRITS AND THEIR ""WTF HAIR DOOS"", P.S. TIME TEAM IS OUT OF TIME IDIOS !