[ANIMATIC] All You Wanna Do(beheaded)- Six the Musical

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  • @DevGame988
    @DevGame988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15960

    Alright, so I see many people commenting facts about Howard's life, but many are actually false or rumors, so here are some that you can easily verify:
    1- Despite being from aristocratic descent, her family was pretty poor, her father being one of 21 children and herself being 10th out of 11 kids. Her parents, especially father, often found themselves begging for money.
    2- She was Anne Boleyn's first cousin (her father and Boleyn's mother being siblings), BUT she also was Jane Seymour's distant cousin (their grandmothers were sisters). Which means that out of 6 wives, three were blood related. He really had a thing for this family.
    3- We don't actually know how old she was when she died. Her exact date of birth being unknown (sometime in 1523), she was either 18 (most probable since she died at the beginning of 1542, in February) or 19.
    4- This is also the reason why we don't know whether she married Henry at 16 or 17; however, we do know how old he was: 49. All we know is that she got beheaded one year and 8 months after their marriage (or, 3 months after her title of Queen got taken away).
    5- Her mother died in 1528, and soonly after, Katherine H. was send to live with her father's stepmother, the Dowager Duchess (of Norfolk). Sadly, the Duchess was negligeant and wouldn't really educate any of her wards (kids of artistocratic but poor relatives), especially not the girls.
    6- Because of that, Howare was influenced by the other female wards who would allow men into sleeping areas at night, to play cards obviously.
    7- As she was clearly more interested in dance & music than studies (she wasn't really ever described as a scholar), she started music lessons with two teachers, one of them being Henry Mannox, who took advantage of her by using the 6th fact, making her think that was normal (which it technically was back then, but not for non-married young girls.)
    8- We do NOT actually know Mannox's age either. We suspect he was in his early to mid-twenties (around 23), but he might have been up to 36 years old.
    9- He abused her for around 2 years; however, they both admitted, at court, that while they did have sexual contact, they didn't have penetrative sex. Which is STILL extremely gross, considering she was 13 and groomed.
    10- After that, Dereham and her entamed a "relationship" when she was 15. He was either 29 or 32 (some think he was 25 but it's pretty unlikely + still wrong & morally reprehensible). According to records, they would call each other "husband" and "wife", and admitted to having signed a precontract marriage. If the Duchess hadn't found out about their "relationship", they would've echanged vows and would've been married in the eyes of Church.
    11- She met Henry when she became a lady-in-waiting for Anna of Cleves, via her uncle the Duke of Norfolk who got her her place at the court.
    12- The Howard family really wanted her to marry Henry, as a way to recreate the influence from Boleyn's reign (reminder, Boleyn's mother was a Howard herself).
    13- Henry actually nicknamed her "his very jewel of womanhood"; the "rose without a thorn" is likely a myth.
    14- "No other wish but his [Henry's]", that's what her motto became.
    15- She was also Thomas Culpeper's distant cousin.
    16- When she got arrested for infidelity, the King ordered to the guards to remove any object that might help her commit suicide.
    17- As she had sex with Dereham (oh, he's back), the man got hanged as she got beheaded. Both his and Thomas' heads were placed on spikes atop London Bridge.
    18- Defending herself, she denied any precontract and standed by her version: Dereham had raped her. While this IS what happened, as a 15yo can't consent to a ~30yo, them calling each other spouses got her unbelieve (despite the grooming & all, again, this happened over 4 centuries ago).
    19- She did repeat laying her head under the block for hours and hours, the night during her execution.
    20- Howard made a speech before getting beheaded, saying that her punishment was "worthy and just", asking for her family's mercy (as everyone but the Duke of Norfolk got arrested) and praying for her soul. She also said that she "deserved to die a thousand deaths for betraying the king, who had always treated [her] so graciously".
    21- According to the popular folklore, her last words were "I die a Queen, but I would rather have died the wife of Culpeper". However, no witness reported this, instead talking about her speech of regret. Last words of a Queen being pretty much important AND getting reported to the King, it's extremely unlikely that she ever said that.
    21- We do NOT know whether Culpeper raped her or not. Historians do suspect it, the writing of the letter found in his room being erratic and looking forced, but outside of this, we don't know. While K. Howard was saying Dereham raped her, she always admitted having an intercourse with Thomas. Jane Boleyn (Anne B's sister-in-law, her brother's widow) also witnessed & even organized some of their meetings, which is the reason why she died, joining her husband, sister-in-law and cousin-in-law.
    22- And to finish: even in the case were Thomas didn't rape her, he used her to gain political power. The King was sick (hence why he died not so long after beheading Howard), and having been friend with him while having a relationship with the Queen would've gotten him a lot of power after Henry's death. He never loved her. Wasn't her lover, and wasn't her friend either.
    [I'm done and it took me an hour to research and write so pls be nice if I made any typo

    • @3mmeeee
      @3mmeeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +590

      How does this not have thousands of likes already I loved it thank you for sharing some facts about howard

    • @aggie5668
      @aggie5668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@3mmeeee IKRRRR

    • @00atheer00
      @00atheer00 3 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      Thank you !! That was both interesting and sad

    • @frothingbubbles
      @frothingbubbles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +90

      so interesting

    • @emmalauren6420
      @emmalauren6420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Thanks man

  • @Suki_Sweet._.
    @Suki_Sweet._. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11137

    In my opinion her story is the saddest like she just wanted love

    • @yaboiharambe8784
      @yaboiharambe8784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Daddy Elon Musk wait could you explain the story because I don’t really get it but I have an idea 🤣

    • @merey2243
      @merey2243 4 ปีที่แล้ว +553

      @@yaboiharambe8784 the musical is retelling the history of the six wives of Henry VIII in modern setting. This song is story of Katherine Howard, his fifth wife. She was only 16, while Henry was 49.

    • @leahcunningham4583
      @leahcunningham4583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      this song kinda makes me cry hehe

    • @relevantusername1575
      @relevantusername1575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Leah Cunningham no same though

    • @luisfelipeoliveira6148
      @luisfelipeoliveira6148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      I still think that anne boleyn was a bit sad

  • @samantha.redacted
    @samantha.redacted 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2941

    It just sounds like she wants a friend

    • @cristinaflanagan5323
      @cristinaflanagan5323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Perhaps she should get a gay friend-

    • @abdasalame4458
      @abdasalame4458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Cristina Flanagan me

    • @CherishCat
      @CherishCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Aro ace headcanon

    • @khaliaward1771
      @khaliaward1771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I know it's just really sad. Everyone just used her😩

    • @ihatetwinks99
      @ihatetwinks99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Awe. I would become her friend 😊

  • @hopeworld_2190
    @hopeworld_2190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6484

    In the song you can hear how everytime she sings, "We have this connection" she slowly starts to sing it with less sincerity and more bitterness. Really sad but gives me so many chills

    • @ravioliravioli118
      @ravioliravioli118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +278

      Yeah, and you can really hear when it finally clicks in "he says we have a...connection.." as she slows down, realizing whats happening

    • @juniorwriter139
      @juniorwriter139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Very sad

    • @ebichemical._.
      @ebichemical._. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@jocelyn.valentino thoma is her *cousin*

    • @honeybee4587
      @honeybee4587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      another thing- if you manage to see a bootleg her dancing gets less and less sincere and more angry as the song goes on

    • @scorchedroseproductions3266
      @scorchedroseproductions3266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      She also sobs at the end of the song

  • @danayanmiew9648
    @danayanmiew9648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6682

    a song about a woman who was raped by at least 3 men then beheaded for being raped.

    • @stevenwood2436
      @stevenwood2436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +374

      She was beheaded for being accused of treason not because she was raped

    • @imagirlnamedricha6387
      @imagirlnamedricha6387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +532

      @@stevenwood2436 but she was (as we think) raped, then she was caught, and henry thought she cheated, so he killed her.

    • @stevenwood2436
      @stevenwood2436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      @@imagirlnamedricha6387 yeah that's true

    • @whenfunnydancingcockroach4625
      @whenfunnydancingcockroach4625 3 ปีที่แล้ว +483

      @@stevenwood2436 Not exactly treason. Her cousin who had worked in the castle had raped her and told Henry that he and her had an affair so Henry was blindly believed the cousin and was like "alright lady you gonna die now"

    • @neon_lavander
      @neon_lavander 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      All in the space of around 6 years

  • @sunnydaze8047
    @sunnydaze8047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2992

    I just realized, when she's talking about Culpeper, she says, "Just mates, no chemistry." That line is so sad to me because she felt like she finally found a friend who cared about her and didn't have some alternative motive but in the end, he was just as bad as every the other men that abused her. The men in her life only liked her because she was young and could be taken advantage of. Even Dereham who was supposed to be her true love before she married Henry was just using her and mostly loved her for sex.

    • @tatoechips4142
      @tatoechips4142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Based on some info I read
      I think dereham truely loved her actually

    • @riddlesangerissues3127
      @riddlesangerissues3127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tatoechips4142 Why does This change anything? She was 13 and during the Renaissance era 13-year-old girls weren't pubescent.

    • @riddlesangerissues3127
      @riddlesangerissues3127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chocolate chip Mint Why does This change anything? She was 13 and during the Renaissance era 13-year-old girls weren't pubescent.

    • @tatoechips4142
      @tatoechips4142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Grimm try searching if my "some info" for you isn't even true
      Or maybe you are one of those people who couldn't read a whole paragraph about history

    • @yasminmarquesdantas756
      @yasminmarquesdantas756 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Grimmin a two part video called the six wives of Henry the VIII it is mentioned that in Howard's part : th-cam.com/video/ED20XMi7BxE/w-d-xo.html

  • @sup6394
    @sup6394 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26548

    I like how she described all the other guys attractiveness and Henry’s just Henry

    • @boocrimson7720
      @boocrimson7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1521

      That made me laugh so hard.

    • @getevandalized
      @getevandalized 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2522

      “ Broad Dark Sexy Mannox”
      “ Serious Stern Slow Sexy Secretary To The Dowager Duchess”
      “ Tall large Henry VIII Supreme Head Of The Church Of England Globally Revered although you wouldn’t know it by the look of that beard”
      Me: huh * finds the one of these thing doesn’t belong plays it* bu dum one of these things is doesn’t belong

    • @villarozie
      @villarozie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      lmao

    • @chevaliermacabre2150
      @chevaliermacabre2150 4 ปีที่แล้ว +906

      Henry is just the tall, big guy with a beard

    • @qwabbybabby
      @qwabbybabby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      Imma Cactus amen to that 😂

  • @ricocarpenter2189
    @ricocarpenter2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13266

    It's so sad how at the end she says
    "It's never ever different"
    She's lost all hope thanks to these older,abusive men.

    • @elliew9464
      @elliew9464 4 ปีที่แล้ว +174

      Pumpkin Guts Thomas was actually really close to her age, but yeah

    • @ricocarpenter2189
      @ricocarpenter2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@elliew9464 True

    • @teshagoodwin1960
      @teshagoodwin1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Pumpkin Guts may i ask one question how were they abusive ik how abusive king henry was but i don’t know about the others i hope u don’t mind 🌷

    • @ricocarpenter2189
      @ricocarpenter2189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +292

      @@teshagoodwin1960 She was more exploited then abused. Clearly the first guy was a pedophile so anything he did with her sexually is automatically sexual abuse. It appears Francis verbally abused her and forced her to do stuff she didn't want to. In the song she says "My wrist were so tired still I came back the next day as he required". The last one well some historians say he raped her but I domt believe that. Could be abuse in the sense that it seemed he was forcing her into a relationship she didn't want.

    • @plasticlope7995
      @plasticlope7995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@elliew9464 Thomas is her cousin....

  • @threedicksonabench3141
    @threedicksonabench3141 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12889

    A really depressing fact:
    Before she was beheaded she LITERALLY *ran* the *ENTIRETY* of her halls *SCREAMING* her innocence.

    • @elizabeththompso8756
      @elizabeththompso8756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1407

      Oh my god. Yeah, that's really depressing. She didn't deserve that at all!

    • @ahumanpassingby7347
      @ahumanpassingby7347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +758

      Wow, that was so depressing. If i was in there i'd believe her and exchange my head for her

    • @jacobbau8328
      @jacobbau8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว +503

      @@ahumanpassingby7347 Mmm, you wouldn’t.

    • @greengrapes7497
      @greengrapes7497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +551

      @@jacobbau8328 to be honest neither would I, but it's really depressing

    • @crabbypattyy
      @crabbypattyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +138

      DAMN BRO ITS LIKE 1 AM IM GONNA CRY

  • @CrowSyndicate
    @CrowSyndicate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1529

    Fun reminder that she died when she was 19. So pretty much all of her relationships started when she was a minor. She married Henry when she was 16-17 and he was like 49.
    Her story is honestly so fucking tragic. She was just a kid. She was a child and on repeat, she was being taken advantage of by significantly older men and essentially being taught that it was fine and that was her place. It's honestly- really fuckin tragic.

    • @taekotoga6548
      @taekotoga6548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      And she wins the race for saddest baskstory and *best queen*

    • @eyelafd
      @eyelafd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      this isn't a fucking fun reminder mom pick me io

    • @adav135
      @adav135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How is that fun ? And he does have it the worst life

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Plus no one believed he raped her when she tried to tell bc she was a woman

    • @thedailybullshit4033
      @thedailybullshit4033 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's even possible that she was as young as 17 when she was executed - we really don't know her exact age. But it's entirely possible that she never even made it to adulthood. & that's the saddest part for me: she was just a kid.

  • @spooky_ghosty
    @spooky_ghosty 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12739

    Personally I feel like”play times over” shows how she was forced to grow up due to trauma at such a young age

    • @acciopotterhead4365
      @acciopotterhead4365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Blossom Gill I agree with you fully

    • @elizachannightcore9814
      @elizachannightcore9814 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      No, by playtime they mean sex

    • @fadomloverahh7625
      @fadomloverahh7625 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      @@elizachannightcore9814 So basically if it's rephrased to that meaning it's turned into "Sex is over"?

    • @user-oc7ei2le6t
      @user-oc7ei2le6t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@elizachannightcore9814 It could be interpreted in any way tbh

    • @KikiGiggles
      @KikiGiggles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      FadomLoverAhh no it means playtime is over so now it’s time for sex. It shows how each of them used her for sexual desires

  • @charleslebowski8878
    @charleslebowski8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6297

    I like to think all these ladies sit up in heaven and chat about how AWFUL their husband was.

    • @chloemitchell843
      @chloemitchell843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Is this does the FBI does?

    • @charleslebowski8878
      @charleslebowski8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      Chloe Mitchell well yeah what else do you think we do all day lol def not work

    • @chloemitchell843
      @chloemitchell843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@charleslebowski8878 Fair enough just act busy XD

    • @charleslebowski8878
      @charleslebowski8878 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Chloe Mitchell exactly

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Le Ex Squad

  • @ryanlynn7407
    @ryanlynn7407 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15444

    Ya'll, this girl needs to be reincarnated so she can have a better life

    • @catsinwonderland7473
      @catsinwonderland7473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      Yeah 😭

    • @claritale_
      @claritale_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +540

      She probably already did.

    • @purrpower1187
      @purrpower1187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      True tho

    • @rueinred3153
      @rueinred3153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +144

      Gettin some Cinderpelt vibes over here...
      No one knows what I'm talking about...

    • @purrpower1187
      @purrpower1187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@rueinred3153 I know what you're talking about

  • @bloopmaster5395
    @bloopmaster5395 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5697

    How you draw the 4th guy just makes me want to trust him. And I know how the song goes, so mad props to you. This was edited I made this post really late at night so yeah had to fix a mistake. But thanks for everyone who commented.

    • @14s0cc3r14
      @14s0cc3r14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +301

      Yeah, Henry T-posing is a pretty well known flirting tactic

    • @zippydoges9142
      @zippydoges9142 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

      That1Guy ah yes the best mating dance I will use this

    • @beetlewuck5969
      @beetlewuck5969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      wait do you mean thomas or henry-

    • @kayily7722
      @kayily7722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      He’s so adorable and kind looking, I didn’t think he’d take advantage of her

    • @VikkiXD
      @VikkiXD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I didnt understand the 4th guy. What happens?

  • @xoxogarden2452
    @xoxogarden2452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5558

    Katherine’s story is so sad. She was so mentally unstable. She clearly suffered Stockholm syndrome, so traumatized by the sexual abuse at a young age that her mind convinced her that she was in love with the 36 yr old man that molested her. It all started from there, making her find toxic man to fall for.

    • @Liam_Phoenix
      @Liam_Phoenix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

      @Dark spirit44 Stockholm syndrome is a condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity. Emotional bonds may be formed, between captor and captives, during intimate time together, but these are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims.

    • @klararosengren5314
      @klararosengren5314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      But this isn't really Stockholm syndrome, now is it? She was Not kidnapped by these men, she was abused.

    • @xoxogarden2452
      @xoxogarden2452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Klara Rosengren not really and you’re right but it keeps a similar basis. She was a victim and her tutor was a predator but the abuse made her believe it was out of love. Somehow it matches. She was young, barely a preteen, so her mind was fresh to profane.

    • @gingerlemon865
      @gingerlemon865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      She and Francis were actually in love

    • @Alice-si8uz
      @Alice-si8uz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Biased on the way this song is presenting her she sounds like she may have BPD. She starts off loving them then ends up hating them... A lot of those with it suffered sexual abuse..

  • @kakegacha3368
    @kakegacha3368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6839

    The way she says “so we got married” you can tell she wasn’t ready

    • @kimtaehyungismywinterbear1296
      @kimtaehyungismywinterbear1296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +363

      Kake Gacha yeah and the sarcasm in her “woo!”. She’s so unprepared for it 😔

    • @adelabarrera683
      @adelabarrera683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      I think she was the youngest wife Henry had, just saying '-'

    • @rice1279
      @rice1279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@adelabarrera683 she is the youngest from what i know so far

    • @albusdumbledore578
      @albusdumbledore578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @angie btw oh meh gawd

    • @mortalrealm7470
      @mortalrealm7470 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Kake Gacha I mean... your not really allowed to say no to the king

  • @bleachmaniac18
    @bleachmaniac18 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6274

    Why does such a sad, depressing song have to be such a banger? Like, I feel bad jamming to this song.

  • @StarstormAnimations
    @StarstormAnimations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3620

    She was literally 19. And Henry was in his 50s. Just...what.

    • @ateee125
      @ateee125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +122

      Nah she died at 19

    • @veeteevee3459
      @veeteevee3459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +142

      Makes me think about how different they must have been and if they clashed. think of a 19 y/o and a 50 y/o trying to connect today

    • @shmeepness1700
      @shmeepness1700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Things were very different back then

    • @madlibsonsteroids6595
      @madlibsonsteroids6595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Crystalline Aqua very very different..

    • @makacronaa
      @makacronaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Yeah female were basically ready for marriage once they got their first period in those decades

  • @AndromedaKai
    @AndromedaKai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6176

    Her story is the saddest because she didn't even get to grow up, she was beheaded at 19 and she was so scared she couldn't make it up to the chopping block on her own.

    • @unfinishedmelody8445
      @unfinishedmelody8445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +745

      It wasn't even confirmed she died at the age of 19 (as no one knows her actual birth date), she was so young. She was even reported to be practising how to lay her head on the block for the beheading. God, she deserves better

    • @gremlin15
      @gremlin15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +232

      Holy shit that's awful.

    • @darthleathertush8488
      @darthleathertush8488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +324

      It somehow gets worse.Thomas was pardoned by Henry IV before they were wed for rape and murder.

    • @reikinnie7045
      @reikinnie7045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      I can't blame her I would have ran away if I was going to get my head cut off

    • @rosariourielmariebelviz5502
      @rosariourielmariebelviz5502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      3:31 you see the eyes of a T-posing man :0

  • @cherrypop8292
    @cherrypop8292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13961

    It so sad because you can see the childish language she uses and that shows how she was just a child :(

    • @brunoisbestmomtryme2829
      @brunoisbestmomtryme2829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +503

      17 right? If so God that's really one sleeze of a man

    • @cherrypop8292
      @cherrypop8292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +213

      Back at ya Buckaroo I think so, maybe 18 tho

    • @brunoisbestmomtryme2829
      @brunoisbestmomtryme2829 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@cherrypop8292 Oh,okay thanks:)

    • @Natalie_bugg0107
      @Natalie_bugg0107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      What childish language?

    • @sienawho6019
      @sienawho6019 4 ปีที่แล้ว +557

      Peppeii owo her referring to 😳😳😳 as ‘birds and the bees’ which shows immaturity toward as that subject. I feel so bad for her btw

  • @neolicious3323
    @neolicious3323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2295

    This song: Is emotional and talks about serious themes
    Henry: **aggressively T-Poses**

  • @hackedlmfao5387
    @hackedlmfao5387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6134

    When she says “Just.. so sincere.”
    Sounds like she’s so much in pain after all she went through. I feel so bad for her, she really had the worst life out of the SIX wives
    But you really could hear the pain through that lone

    • @nitemarwalker4186
      @nitemarwalker4186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      Idk Anne Boleyn was actually beheaded because people falsely accused her of having an affair with her brother
      And his first wife, Catherine of Aragon, was forced to marry a disabled man who died before they could even consummate their marriage then was just past down to the younger sibling. Who when she grew to love after a 24 year long marriage. (Even though he repetitively cheated on her and banned her from his chambers after her failure to give him a son) This husband fathers a bastard. Then literally splits from the church that his family has been with for generation just to divorce her. She also lived throughout the entire 5 more wives so she had to actively watch from afar as a man she loved and the father of her children did all this.

    • @hackedlmfao5387
      @hackedlmfao5387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +204

      Nitemar Walker
      But K also got beheaded by being raped by her cousin (Thomas) (I think?)
      She was so innocent, and had a giggly personality. She got abused, raped, and used by her body. Her parents died when she was young, and she died at 19.
      The day before the execution, she spent hours trying to learn how to place her head on the block.

    • @savannahjones-verity3308
      @savannahjones-verity3308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      @@nitemarwalker4186 Catherine of Argon died in 1536. The same year is Anne Boleyn, but I think we can all agree each of them had a rough time in their own ways....
      However is terms of the competition.. Katherine Howard had it the worst

    • @nottodaysatan4113
      @nottodaysatan4113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Well, we can safely say that their lives sucked.

    • @hackedlmfao5387
      @hackedlmfao5387 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not Today Satan
      Yep.

  • @sonata7885
    @sonata7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1711

    Poor thing just wanted a friend, everyone just used her since she was a chikd

    • @uwuowo9647
      @uwuowo9647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Sonata 788 no she just wanted to be love but they only used her

    • @shipperina2213
      @shipperina2213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I have the answer be lesbian

    • @sonata7885
      @sonata7885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Shipperina 221 yes I agree as lesbian myaelf

    • @justsomeoneontheinternet8793
      @justsomeoneontheinternet8793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shipperina2213 I agree :V

    • @belldolphin4127
      @belldolphin4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@shipperina2213 She did want to take a break from boys after all, why not girls for a change

  • @orleanswarrior1834
    @orleanswarrior1834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1372

    Guy: we have a connection
    Katherine H: Imma head out

  • @stellinam4199
    @stellinam4199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1529

    Bro the way she says "enoughsies" shows how young she really was
    Fun fact: Katherine Howard was only 17 when she was forced into marriage with King Henry the 8th who was 49 at the time. Literally all of England was creeped out by their marriage but no one could say anything because he was the King.

    • @ohlookadandehlion5760
      @ohlookadandehlion5760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Proof? Not to be mean but it was so long ago we don't really know

    • @nylushi5649
      @nylushi5649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I hate pedos

    • @skyenby9247
      @skyenby9247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@ohlookadandehlion5760 there are many things showing that she was so young and she never really knew what a real relationship was. So yea she was forced into it cause no one rejected the king

    • @sagedraws1000
      @sagedraws1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@ohlookadandehlion5760 It's very likely since children were often forced into marriage at the time.

    • @Katyyyyy18
      @Katyyyyy18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@ohlookadandehlion5760 Although nobody’s sure about Katherine’s EXACT age, we know she was around 18-19 during her execution, really sad :(. most people were obviously creeped out by the age gap, but couldn’t say anything since Henry had complete control over anyone like the tyrannical king he was, although some people believed it was normal as this was a common/basic thing to occur in history.

  • @reneeeasterbrook9711
    @reneeeasterbrook9711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1483

    When you listen to the lyrics, it is actually pretty sad. It sounds like she didn't want a lover, just a friend.

    • @Laramaria2
      @Laramaria2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I think she didn't want a lover, just to be loved, and she never knew that, in true,what they felt for her wasn't love ( and I'm holding on not to complete this sentence with "it was a perfect illusion")... I think she gave herself for those men because that was the closest thing to "love" she knew, because they all said that they loved her but they only wanted to have sex with her...

  • @insanetacocat7077
    @insanetacocat7077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3197

    The other men where normal with their advances..
    Then you got Henry T posing over Katherin cuz that’s what he does when he goes hunting for wives.

    • @theoriesicantexplain2433
      @theoriesicantexplain2433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      Lol except all of them were terrible

    • @tomie1904
      @tomie1904 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I wheezed its how he shows dominance wdym

    • @kakegacha3368
      @kakegacha3368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      What about the seconds eyes??
      Catherine: n-
      2nd guy: -*eyes glowing* no to you

    • @olly9685
      @olly9685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      I mean... the other three were a paedophile, an abuser with statutory power over her, and someone who tries to force her into a relationship when she just wanted a friend

    • @ellyr15
      @ellyr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I saw this but I wasn’t sure if I should point it out. The other guys are nicely drawn (meaning they are hawt lmao) then Henry’s just there like T \_/ T

  • @anonymousxoxo134
    @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3765

    "Enougshie"
    "Birds And The Bees Me"
    "Playtime's Over"
    Dang, men were cruel to
    her at a young flipping age.

    • @imadeyoureadthis7823
      @imadeyoureadthis7823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      I agree completely with you, but I thought that “enoughsie” was “enough, see”

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The Milkman Goose Eh. Ok

    • @maialowthorpe9804
      @maialowthorpe9804 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      I MADE YOU READ THIS the official lyrics say that but it can be interpreted how you want it. I hear enoughsie

    • @sydney1385
      @sydney1385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Maia Lowthorpe I could honestly see it being that, honestly, since she was so young and her grammar wasn’t very good

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The Curly Q Well I see
      it as enoughsie 'cause
      I'm an idiot who also
      has a childish slang.

  • @awoodenspoon4798
    @awoodenspoon4798 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3922

    Boys: * want to impress her *
    Henry: *t-pose*
    Kathrine: *sweats really hard*

  • @rainbow_zone
    @rainbow_zone 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6634

    " *blowing* the flute"
    "he plucked my strings all the way to *G* "
    "went from major to *minor* "
    "C to *D* "
    yo we still talkin bout music?

    • @albusdumbledore578
      @albusdumbledore578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +319

      Nope

    • @emmarlenegorumba1120
      @emmarlenegorumba1120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Explain

    • @albusdumbledore578
      @albusdumbledore578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +559

      @@emmarlenegorumba1120 when two people love each other very, very much...

    • @emmarlenegorumba1120
      @emmarlenegorumba1120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +275

      @@albusdumbledore578 i get the blowing the flute but
      "plucking the strings to G"
      "minor to major"
      "C to D"
      Sorry if it's annoying to ask but my curiosity always gets the best of me

    • @albusdumbledore578
      @albusdumbledore578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@emmarlenegorumba1120 it's ok

  • @imsodone3750
    @imsodone3750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24113

    Music teacher: "i feel a connection"
    Katherine: *ok g r o o m e r.*

    • @MrMangoMan
      @MrMangoMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +796

      WHY DID I LAUGH AT THIS

    • @Aurora_brabham
      @Aurora_brabham 4 ปีที่แล้ว +557

      I was not expecting that

    • @Rrougenoir
      @Rrougenoir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +420

      This comment is pure gold

    • @riphoney7213
      @riphoney7213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

      《 imsodone 》 hEEEEAAhEEEEAAAAAA

    • @remansalih3590
      @remansalih3590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +347

      My cola sprayed out my nose while i read this, fuck you and thank you, that was so funny.

  • @sticker1092
    @sticker1092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2902

    She says birds and the bees me,making reference to the fact she’s just a kid
    Edit:holy fuck thanks yalll

    • @pomegranatejuice3357
      @pomegranatejuice3357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +360

      She also says "playtime's over" and "enoughsie".. honestly i feel horrible for her

    • @jhudon7126
      @jhudon7126 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Catra!!!!

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      There are also other kid
      references in some of the
      other queen songs.

    • @reliomese2873
      @reliomese2873 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Enoughsie

    • @lieaparisss08
      @lieaparisss08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jhudon7126 ikr

  • @tomnook3760
    @tomnook3760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1113

    Its quite sad
    She talks like a child
    "Playtimes Over"
    "Enoughsie''
    "Birds And The Bees Me"

    • @sae2391
      @sae2391 3 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      @Chloe Benson we know what it means, using the term “birds and the bees” is a more child-friendly way of describing it and it’s how a lot of kids were taught in the beginning

    • @PheonixGirl-hg7cf
      @PheonixGirl-hg7cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Well, from what I gather she WAS a child when this happened to her... poor kid...

    • @jazmintaylor4857
      @jazmintaylor4857 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Chloe Benson thank you

    • @jorilysmatos69
      @jorilysmatos69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I thought it's meant to be "... enough see."

    • @chaotic_lesbian
      @chaotic_lesbian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It’s both- in the beginning it’s enoughsie (childish language) but at the end it’s enough, see. To represent the fact that she has been forced to grow up too fast by all the trauma. At least that’s what I think

  • @nyettehforshort7131
    @nyettehforshort7131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3475

    Me: * almost crying *
    *Looks like Henry T posing at the table*
    Me: * laughing while crying and feel sorry for Katherine *
    *Sorry for the misspelling.*
    I swear to god in hungarian I know all of their names right. "^^ In my language we have all of them hungarian names. Except for Jane.

    • @laluna8900
      @laluna8900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nyetteh for short I don’t mean any offence! Your comment is funny but uhh... *Katherine would be this one 😅

    • @zoegonzalez7445
      @zoegonzalez7445 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Twenty
      One
      Pilots

    • @xxzombeanzxx3537
      @xxzombeanzxx3537 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@laluna8900 Actually! Fun fact! Historically, no one really knows whether her name was supposed to be spelled with a "C" or a "K", and it constantly changes in documents. So, technically, you could use either one and get away with it. 😂😁 kinda cool, really. But, for musical purposes, yes, it is a K 😂

    • @squirrel2675
      @squirrel2675 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Twenty one pilots

    • @auroraborealis8229
      @auroraborealis8229 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Pastel Trin there’s too many fucking KATHERINES which one is this one

  • @feldee2117
    @feldee2117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6328

    fun faact: the first guy was not 23. however, he was 23 years older than her.

  • @ashleylangenberg5808
    @ashleylangenberg5808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +779

    Forget who was the most screwed over by Henry, Catherine Howard was the most screwed over by LIFE, jeez Louise!

  • @liamhayward4083
    @liamhayward4083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +653

    "Do this"
    "N-"
    *"did I stutter."*

    • @vienaubrey1313
      @vienaubrey1313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      What does this mean-
      I'm a Lil Minor 👁️👄👁️

    • @maddiemeyer28
      @maddiemeyer28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@vienaubrey1313 The man: Do this sexual action against your will because I can make ur life h*ll (very common unfortuantly)
      K. Howard: N- (No)
      The Man: I dont care your a woman
      its rape, it is very unfortunate always ask before you "birds and the bees" someone.

    • @angelic.sadnzss
      @angelic.sadnzss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@maddiemeyer28 Francis was actually nice and Katheryn and him were gonna get engaged but Henry

  • @starberryshortcakee
    @starberryshortcakee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3059

    I spit out my drink when I saw King Henry lmao I love it

  • @ashleybustillos5458
    @ashleybustillos5458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2098

    "Yeah, that didn't work out so I decided to have a break from boys"
    That's when she became a lesbian

    • @tangerine_chocolata
      @tangerine_chocolata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      *Aimie(the singer for this recording) is a lesbian so makes sense*

    • @hynxei1634
      @hynxei1634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@tangerine_chocolata wait where did you find that information?? I couldn't find it anywhere

    • @tangerine_chocolata
      @tangerine_chocolata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@hynxei1634 Check Instagram live streams about the Pride Month

    • @tangerine_chocolata
      @tangerine_chocolata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@hynxei1634 th-cam.com/video/83uBG8rbx74/w-d-xo.html

    • @hynxei1634
      @hynxei1634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@tangerine_chocolata Thank you! i also read the comments under that video so I'm a lot more educated now

  • @kendallwood8630
    @kendallwood8630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6016

    The most heartbreaking part is that Henry called her his “rose without a thorn”. Francis came to her at court and blackmailed her into letting him work at court, along with a woman she lived with at the Dowager Duchess’s house who knew everything that happened with Francis. She was surrounded by people using her, her uncle consistently told her how stupid she was and what she needed to do. Henry also tended to listen to her opinions. She also had a fur coat sewed for an old lady in the tower because it was winter. She was such a young child and truly sweet in temperament, and was just constantly pushed around by the men in her life.

    • @Icarus5252
      @Icarus5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +313

      Katherine was really sweet but the people abusing her are empty, no soul. She didn't deserve what happened to her. She definitely had it the worst as she was 17-19 when she died and her death was very painful, unlike Anne boleyns death.

    • @somebody3487
      @somebody3487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      It’s so unfair that Catherine has been written off as a promiscuous vixen and a foolish idiot. She was so much more than that - well-mannered, generous and kind. I believe that she was innocent, even if historians can’t agree if Catherine was abused or not. There’s little proof that she and Culpeper had sex and, by her own confession, evidence that there was coercion involved in her relationships. But, even if she really was guilty of adultery and willingly slept with Dereham before she married the king, it’s still not fair to call her a harlot. She was just a teenager who didn’t understand. And to die at so young an age, no older than 21 at the very most. The musical may omit some important details of Catherine’s life, but at least finally some poetic justice is being done for her.
      However, I’d just like to add here that Henry VIII probably never called Catherine his ‘rose without a thorn’. Historian Claire Ridgway, over at The Anne Boleyn Files, has written an article in which she debunks this myth. The phrase actually originates from a coin struck in 1526, which bore the words ‘Henry VIII, the dazzling rose without a thorn’. I highly recommend you give it a read, it’s a very interesting piece:
      www.theanneboleynfiles.com/katherine-howard-really-henry-viiis-rose-without-thorn/

    • @somebody3487
      @somebody3487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Icarus5252 Catherine Howard may not have had a professional swordsman to kill her, but by all accounts she was beheaded in a single blow of the axe. Thankfully, it’s unlikely that she felt much pain.
      ‘the masked executioner then took Catherine's head off with one blow’
      www.theanneboleynfiles.com/the-executions-of-catherine-howard-jane-boleyn-francis-dereham-and-thomas-culpeper/4357/
      ‘Mercifully, the headsman removed her [Catherine’s] head with a single stroke of the axe’ (Josephine Wilkinson, ‘Katherine Howard: The Tragic Story of Henry VIII's Fifth Queen’)
      ‘The queen’s head was removed with a single stroke’ (Conor Byrne, ‘Katherine Howard: Henry VIII’s Slandered Queen’)

    • @muzzycosmos9400
      @muzzycosmos9400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@somebody3487 but in others comments someone says that the executer hit her back, giving her much pain
      //sorry the bad english

    • @muzzycosmos9400
      @muzzycosmos9400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@somebody3487 Really thanks for the info, very interesting!!!
      Also, you don't make videos, but I subscribe to you: I really like the way you write and how you research things before to talk, at the contrary of many people today. Keep up the historical side of youtube.

  • @Hello-yk6qg
    @Hello-yk6qg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    Fun Fact: Anne B. And Katherine H. (The beheaded ones) were cousins

    • @alexg5977
      @alexg5977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      First cousins, yes!

    • @lesbiangoddess290
      @lesbiangoddess290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Opp- we knew, it's in our British history and I'm just like. He really didnt like this family did he.

    • @lilly8645
      @lilly8645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That is actually a bit funny because they were both beheaded but they had really sad stories. Like she was used and raped and then beheaded. And her cousin had to spent time with his other wife and was beheaded before the eyes of her daughter-

    • @dewmilk7266
      @dewmilk7266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I feel like Jane Seymour was related to them somehow too but I might be wrong

    • @MonsieurBananaTheBetter
      @MonsieurBananaTheBetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@dewmilk7266 I think Jane was like a 2nd or 3rd cousin to this two

  • @whyamihere1738
    @whyamihere1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6209

    “We have a connection😍”
    “We have a real connection☺️”
    “We have this connection😐”
    “We have a connection...”

    • @whyamihere1738
      @whyamihere1738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I SHIP TODODEKU In my opinion yes

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      *I THOUGHT THIS TIME*
      *WAS DIFFERENT---*

    • @gracesmelodys
      @gracesmelodys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      • AnøniiBuns • why did I think he’d be different?

    • @anonymousxoxo134
      @anonymousxoxo134 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Grace’s Melody’s But it's
      never ever *different~*

    • @maru3769
      @maru3769 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      • AnøniiBuns • cause all you wanna do all you wanna do baby

  • @tabbestakimaki6653
    @tabbestakimaki6653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8984

    The more you listen you realize she talks like a child.
    *Birds and the bees me*
    *Play Times Over*
    And a couple more..
    Its quite sad when you realize it.

    • @cinnisnotok
      @cinnisnotok 4 ปีที่แล้ว +837

      She was 16 when she was married to Henry I’m pretty sure and was 19 when she was beheaded so yeah she was pretty young

    • @Sabuda80
      @Sabuda80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +544

      I mean... Favorite quill, spilled Ink, my wrist was so tired was a Dirty joke

    • @pinkitydrinkityyas
      @pinkitydrinkityyas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +463

      "When will enough be enoughsie"

    • @astrophelX
      @astrophelX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +396

      Fairest of the fair could be taken as "childish" too

    • @rebbecawitt581
      @rebbecawitt581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +235

      Enoughsies is also very childish

  • @ellyr15
    @ellyr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    This is so sad! She uses such childish terms like ‘birds and bees’ and ‘enoughsie’ so she’s obviously had her childhood robbed off her. Playtimes over is sorta like inferring what I’ve just said about her childhood being cut short. This is also the same case in the first part about her being 13 going on 30.
    She goes on about her thinking it’s different so that means that she only wants a friend, and she doesn’t want any men making moves on her.
    TL;DR : She had a few years of childhood, then got deceived until she was killed basically :(

    • @Yruak99
      @Yruak99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I’m sure she totally deserved to win the competition

    • @ellyr15
      @ellyr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fränk Cmptn yea she did 😅

    • @imadeyoureadthis7823
      @imadeyoureadthis7823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I completely understand “the birds and the bees”, but I thought “enoughsie” was actually “enough, see”

    • @ellyr15
      @ellyr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Milkman Goose well i thought it was too, but someone said it said enoughsie aha. either way, you can tell how desperate she is to get herself heard x

    • @ellyr15
      @ellyr15 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Grimm wdum?

  • @leeammorris1268
    @leeammorris1268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2514

    I hope that in her next life, she's free to do and live as she pleases. She deserves that freedom. Who else agrees?

    • @stevenwood2436
      @stevenwood2436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I do but she will still be a child because she never got to grow up since she died when she was ( i think ) 19

    • @Sddvhjkkll
      @Sddvhjkkll 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Maybe she's you. Maybe she's me. Maybe she's yo mama.

    • @leeammorris1268
      @leeammorris1268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Chloe Benson True.

    • @eden9310
      @eden9310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Chloe Benson that doesnt have to do with anything what💀💀

    • @uwu5374
      @uwu5374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      YES

  • @blue-f6p7e
    @blue-f6p7e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19761

    some facts about katherine howard:
    - she died when she was only 18 or 19 (her exact birthdate is unkown)
    - henry mannox was actually 36, not 23
    - she was anne boleyn's cousin
    - she loved animals, especially dogs
    - she loved dancing and got lessons for it
    - she had a good sense of humor and was described as being 'giggly'
    - it's unknown whether her name is spelled with a C or K since it was written differently on many occasions, but evidence suggests it was probably with a C (but tbh just write it how you want)
    - the 'thomas' guy at the end was her cousin
    - her mom died when she was around 5 and her dad died when she was around 15
    - the night before her execution, she reportedly spent hours practising how to lay her head on the block
    - she was buried in an unmarked grave
    she won the competition for sure

    • @Tsusagi
      @Tsusagi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1927

      **spits water** 36- holy-

    • @minbevy
      @minbevy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3418

      THE FACT THAT SHE WAS REPORTED TO BE *PRACTISING* HOW TO LAY HER HEAD ON THE THING IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIFYING

    • @LilyGrace95
      @LilyGrace95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2378

      The fact that we don't even know for sure how old she was is fucking tragic. I have a lot of sympathy for Catherine Howard; she was given a really rough hand in life.

    • @via722
      @via722 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1866

      she was just so naive and those guys really took advantage of the fact she wanted to be loved- honestly i say jail for all guys who hurt her

    • @zaxi_e1974
      @zaxi_e1974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1183

      I'm not really surprised about the cousin part. Everyone was related to everyone then

  • @pebbles.in.my.pockets6000
    @pebbles.in.my.pockets6000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1175

    Katherine: “He was 23 I was 13 going on 30”
    Me: *wait that’s illegal*

  • @andreazevallos5212
    @andreazevallos5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4863

    Fun fact: it says that Katherine was crying and praying for the forgiveness for her soul at her final moments. This poor child didn’t deserve anything that happen to her 😞 (Actually pretty sad fact but people don’t get sarcasm [Edit])

    • @chooseyourpoison5105
      @chooseyourpoison5105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +597

      Yes she had to be helped to climb the scaffold and assisted to kneel, as her legs were buckling beneath her with fright. Poor girl, she had actually planned to die bravely and gracefully but when it came to it, her nerves gave way.

    • @kayla4551
      @kayla4551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

      If a fact makes you cry it isn't a fun fact anymore

    • @andreazevallos5212
      @andreazevallos5212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Just Me its sarcasm

    • @earlgreymilktae
      @earlgreymilktae 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Tord Larsson-. that’s not a very fun fact

    • @theskyisonfire
      @theskyisonfire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      That's not very fun....

  • @ShimmerShineSparkle
    @ShimmerShineSparkle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Not so fun facts:
    Katherine Howard's music teacher, Henry Mannox WAS ACTUALLY 36, not 23
    King Henry the 8th WAS 49 YEARS OLD when he married Katherine who WAS 17
    Katherine Howard and Thomas Culpepper are cousins

    • @yujutheworld
      @yujutheworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      mannox could've been in his mid-twenties to 36 but his age was never actually confirmed so rumors stay rumors

    • @Aperson-dz6dy
      @Aperson-dz6dy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The exact age of Catherine Howard when she got married is unknown but she was an older teenager but that’s still really sad

    • @katieroberts7012
      @katieroberts7012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Also Thomas had previously been banished from Henry's court for rape, though Henry eventually invited him back

  • @pans0986
    @pans0986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +530

    3:32 my man Henry out here asserting his dominance.

    • @Jogjosmowwdkfs
      @Jogjosmowwdkfs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      Pans 098 he was the supreme head of the Church of England. How else was he supposed to let all the plebs know he was important?

    • @pans0986
      @pans0986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Mary, Dearest True

    • @Lauren.E.O
      @Lauren.E.O 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He looks like he’s about to fly away 🤣
      If only

    • @ghostyghost3695
      @ghostyghost3695 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      T pose 😂

    • @pokidoki3789
      @pokidoki3789 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Lauren.E.O just cover his arms in glue and feathers
      He'll fly away in no time

  • @angellarodriguez4505
    @angellarodriguez4505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    Catherines by far the one had the most trauma in my opinion you can tell her, about how she uses childish words like birds and the bees and she was just a teenager at the time what I'm trying to say she deserves better

    • @sharkie9975
      @sharkie9975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Angella Rodriguez also when she was going to be executed she needed help to get to the block because her knees starting buckling cause she was so scared. She was so young and didn’t deserve the trauma she got

  • @lemon_junkie1443
    @lemon_junkie1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18373

    the beheaded wives have the best songs out of Six

    • @ennafire5911
      @ennafire5911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +476

      Pieloverpuppy 030
      100%

    • @ludameri1384
      @ludameri1384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +449

      I agree 10000%

    • @kakegacha3368
      @kakegacha3368 4 ปีที่แล้ว +578

      Pieloverpuppy 030 I know don’t lose your head was great and this is better

    • @artbunny9199
      @artbunny9199 4 ปีที่แล้ว +266

      My fav is heart of stone but these are very close seconds

    • @getevandalized
      @getevandalized 4 ปีที่แล้ว +254

      Pretty accurate i mean get down has to be my favorite right now

  • @grayceslife2959
    @grayceslife2959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +703

    guy: we have a connection
    catherine: **runs**
    guy: *WHY AWH YOU RRUNNING?! WHY AWH YOU RRUNNING?!*

  • @mollydonlon2678
    @mollydonlon2678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +913

    No one:
    Not even a single soul:
    Henry: *T poses*

    • @melodytate3898
      @melodytate3898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @abdulmoizkhan5911
      @abdulmoizkhan5911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂

    • @rubywalsh2931
      @rubywalsh2931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @donut3988
      @donut3988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @silviasilvers1984
      @silviasilvers1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The replies said:😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂

  • @thepyperuk8551
    @thepyperuk8551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +649

    I find it really sad that we wouldnt know her story unless she married the king

    • @Jaybirdie1226
      @Jaybirdie1226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      pandaluva06 and that there’s probably tons more girls that were treated like her that we’ll never know about

    • @hunnypie5790
      @hunnypie5790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel like probably at least 30% of girls in that time were treated that way. Most really didn't care about women tbh

  • @ivo4359
    @ivo4359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5501

    "so we got married"
    "wooh"
    that was the most unenthusiastic wooh I've ever heard lmaoo, she really got the point across

    • @yomomma8569
      @yomomma8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Ikr look at what Google says when you search her Katherine Howard was Queen of England from 1540 to 1541 due to her marriage to King Henry VIII. She was his fifth wife and was succeeded by Catherine Parr. SHE WAS QUEEN FOR 1 YEAR-

    • @emjay1354
      @emjay1354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Shoto Todoroki she was also around 16 or 17 when she was beheaded. Nobody knows her exact age for sure.

    • @yomomma8569
      @yomomma8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@emjay1354 I looked it up and it say around 18/19 but it could be wrong.

    • @emjay1354
      @emjay1354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Shoto Todoroki nobody knows her exact birth date, some say 16/17 and some say 18/19. Her birth certificate was never found.

    • @yomomma8569
      @yomomma8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@emjay1354 man that's so sad...

  • @midwestmatcha
    @midwestmatcha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Okay, I am missing a big point here but...male characters looking charming in this animatic... and holy shit it makes them ever more dangerous as predators because they don't look malicious or threatening at first glance.

    • @tejaswoman
      @tejaswoman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Look at the eyes, though. SOOOOO creepy.

  • @RainbowCat-fr8vc
    @RainbowCat-fr8vc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1866

    Anyone notice that both Anne and Katherine are the traumatized ones? Like everyone is that welp that sucked. But Anne and Katherine breakdown and cry while going to their death? My heart...

    • @unhelpful_imp
      @unhelpful_imp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Well, I mean they got thier head chopped off

    • @mariamcandrew1041
      @mariamcandrew1041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      They are the only ones who got executed.

    • @Hihi-zk3pc
      @Hihi-zk3pc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      They're also both cousins

    • @heartrender6
      @heartrender6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      that's... the... point? I don't quite understand what you mean. If it was any other two u still would have made this comment but just changed the names, right?

    • @RainbowCat-fr8vc
      @RainbowCat-fr8vc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@heartrender6 I see. Well, at least it was special enough for you to reply. I was just stating how it's sad that Anne and Katherine were scared and was treated terribly. How they breakdown and can't hide their insecurities anymore.

  • @duckynoodles3560
    @duckynoodles3560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3146

    It's nice to see someone make a animatic that shows just how messed up this song actually is
    Don't get me wrong i do enjoy the other Six animatics but this one takes the cake when it comes to this song specifically
    The men around Katherine especially near the beginning all actually looks older then her
    And it shows just how messed up Kaths life was over the years
    And don't even get me started on the glass shards that shown reflections of Kath being arrested and then about to be beheaded

    • @tasha8528
      @tasha8528 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I also like how to take some of the seriousness away from the song the animator draws Henry VIII t-posing to assert dominance

    • @petraivic6522
      @petraivic6522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Also animation actually portrays exact lyrics but the hidden/sexual meaning is even worse...

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@petraivic6522 like
      "Major to minor"
      "C to D"
      "Plucked my strings"
      "Pull my hair and tell me I'm the fairest of the fair"
      "We spent hours strumming the lute,striking the cords and blowing the flute"
      (To name a few)

  • @tepigtrainer3767
    @tepigtrainer3767 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20297

    I really like how you actually drew the age differences between the versions of Katherine and the other men, it really shows how young she really was with the first man who took advantage of her. Amazing job!

    • @mochabunbuns
      @mochabunbuns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Is that a true story or did they make that up for the musical???

    • @allysonabarca4137
      @allysonabarca4137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +309

      Miles River the musical is based off of the lives of the six wives of Henry the eighth. These things all actually happened to Katherine Howard (the fifth wife)

    • @allysonabarca4137
      @allysonabarca4137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      Miles River the musical is based off of the lives of the six wives of Henry the eighth. These things all actually happened to Katherine Howard (the fifth wife)

    • @PhantomQueen89
      @PhantomQueen89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

      @Jerry Owen True. I think the false age of "23" is actually a reference on their age difference.

    • @pleasestopclapping
      @pleasestopclapping 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's a true story, ya.

  • @Evelyn-rf7ec
    @Evelyn-rf7ec 4 ปีที่แล้ว +427

    weird how this has a very cute and girly sound but is actually one of (*cough* the most *cough*) painful songs

  • @winemothergoose
    @winemothergoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    6:36 fun fact. She wasn't killed with a sword, but with an ax, with mean's that she wasn't important to King or just the King didn't respect her.

    • @sheilamaesabado1605
      @sheilamaesabado1605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      what?! how dare he grr

    • @winemothergoose
      @winemothergoose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@sheilamaesabado1605 well he was a dick after all ;)

  • @mollylovesmads
    @mollylovesmads 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6646

    I feel really bad for liking and singing along to the song. Katherine deserved better and she was so young when she died. The worst thing is watching it live because the actress breakdown on stage apparently and thats when I'm probally going to cry when I go and see the musical after the pandemic.

    • @thenewpyt4331
      @thenewpyt4331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +507

      yeah when it’s performed live she’s screaming and crying the lyrics at the end. it’s heart breaking.

    • @DraqonfruitYT
      @DraqonfruitYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      The musical is amazing and I was crying! (Also 66bth like)

    • @juliettestoner6934
      @juliettestoner6934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      same ;'D

    • @lmnopqrstuv7344
      @lmnopqrstuv7344 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thenewpyt4331 where did you see that?

    • @ash_luciel
      @ash_luciel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lmnop Qrstuv th-cam.com/video/DSVPBT-hPPc/w-d-xo.html

  • @Cheeseanonioncrisps
    @Cheeseanonioncrisps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +904

    Fun fact: One of Elizabeth I's childhood friends, Robert Dudley, supposedly claimed that she first told him she never wanted to get married when she was about eight or nine years old. Guess how old she was when Katherine lost her head? (On Valentines Day as well, just in case Henry wasn't being dramatic enough already.)
    This was a fucking traumatic event for all involved, and is probably a big part of the reason why we ended up with the Virgin Queen Elizabeth.

    • @pandaghost6
      @pandaghost6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      I saw this and decided to research it, the year Katherine died was the year Elizabeth turned 9, Katherine dying months before Elizabeth's 9th birthday, meaning when her step mother died, she was 8. So she was about 9-10 years younger then Katherine.

    • @ichigopockychan
      @ichigopockychan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +165

      I don't blame Elizabeth for becoming the virgin queen like she did. If I witnessed my dad going through women like water like that, I'd be traumatized too.

    • @Icarus5252
      @Icarus5252 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      She was smart, the others weren't stupid, she reilized what could've happened to her so she avoided getting married and avoided men as much as possible

    • @tourmelion9221
      @tourmelion9221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Icarus5252 I agree
      It was a smart move

    • @emilywilliams6383
      @emilywilliams6383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Her being a virgin queen also meant she retained power. If she had married she would have lost her power to the king, her own husband. Her father killed her mother but it was noted through letters that she loved her father anyway. She was a well educated woman, who knew as soon as she married and had a child she would no longer be in a position of power but an object of succession

  • @redheartsunglasses
    @redheartsunglasses 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Her: So I decided to have a break from boys...
    King Henry: lol u thought

  • @mochiloki
    @mochiloki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6083

    I love how you made most of the animatic pink, because Katherine viewed everything through rose-coloured glasses. And then the black and white is Katherine reflecting on her decisions and memories.

    • @mars-kg9zx
      @mars-kg9zx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I love marinette

    • @haventpickedanameyet2527
      @haventpickedanameyet2527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      Most of the animatic is pink because that's her color in the musical, like Anne Boleyn is green, Anne of Cleves is red, C/Katherine is pink, Catherine of Aragon is yellow, you get the point. But the rose coloured glasses is interesting, it could fit, but I don't think that's what the artist intended

    • @mochiloki
      @mochiloki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Virtual Gaming Cat that’s a reason too! I just additionally interpreted it this way.

    • @mochiloki
      @mochiloki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Virtual Gaming Cat maybe that’s one of the reasons why Howard’s signature colour is pink!

    • @chrikekq3375
      @chrikekq3375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      La vie en rose

  • @fatimabianca6003
    @fatimabianca6003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +311

    I love the fact that at first she was like "Please me squeeze me" and when she got with Henry it was "sieze me squeeze me" it always makes me emotional.

  • @lana.pat1308
    @lana.pat1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2608

    "Except for this one courtier. He's a really nice guy."
    *Me:* :)
    *Me: sees that he has no pupils*
    *Me:* :(

  • @jellyrose263
    @jellyrose263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +340

    For a second I thought it said: “ Tall, Large, Henry the egg... “

  • @tetrauchiha
    @tetrauchiha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1278

    KH: **minding her own business**
    Henry: *Allow me to assert my dominance over you*

  • @deadroses7500
    @deadroses7500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6960

    “Just mates, no chemistry, I get him, he gets me, theres nothing more to it, he just cares so much, he’s devoted, he says we have a connection.”
    She’s talking about she wanted no romantic relationship with Thomas, she just wanted a friend, she’s trying to convince herself that he didn’t want her like that by saying “he just cares so much, he’s devoted.” She meant hes devoted to being a FRIEND, she was trying to convince herself that everything he did was normal and that he didn’t view in her that way until he said “we have a connection” and thats when she knew he did view her in that way just like every other guy.
    She just wanted a friend.

    • @marsh8821
      @marsh8821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      "The Friend I need" FRIEND

    • @cloudysky4884
      @cloudysky4884 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Yeah its really sad she also died at like 19 or 20 its REALLY sad because pepole still dont believe this kind of stuff happens those people are STUPID AND SHOULD DIE FOR BELIEVING THAT!!!!! Im pretty sure that all of those guys did rape her

    • @myowwa
      @myowwa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      And worse Thomas was her cousin

    • @awesomyth
      @awesomyth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +151

      @@romana9283 And it gets so much worse. Not only was she too afraid to even walk up to the chopping block but Henry got her an executioner that wasn't very good at the job. The axe missed her neck twice and hit her in the back and shoulder so she suffered until the final third blow. :(

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@cloudysky4884 she died at 19

  • @wrenbird8214
    @wrenbird8214 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2416

    Another thing about Katherine, she was actually forced into her marriage with Henry. She was 18 and engaged to someone else, but the King took a liking to her and you really couldn’t say no to him. So she might have been a bit promiscuous, but can you blame her? She was in a loveless marriage, she wasn’t happy. Poor girl.

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      Actually she was forced into Henry 's sight by her family bc they wanted power plus the final wife was also going or already married to someone else but when Henry liked her she couldn't say no plus she was 16-17 when she married henry cathrine was either 18-19 when she died bc no one knows her birthday but most people think she was 19

    • @nobodyimportant9603
      @nobodyimportant9603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +184

      Min Yoongi She actually wasn’t promiscuous- she got raped while married and nobody believed it was rape at the time, so they killed her

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@nobodyimportant9603 I can confirm this

    • @somebody3487
      @somebody3487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      @@nobodyimportant9603 There is no conclusive evidence that Howard was raped during her marriage - it is just a plausible theory. Not only do the confessions of Catherine and her alleged lover Thomas Culpeper strongly suggest that they never had sex (she stated the night before her execution that she was ‘guiltless’ of ‘defiling’ the king’s bed), but it is impossible for to us to know exactly whether or not Catherine consented to her relationship with him due to how fragmentary the details are. Historians Lucy Worsley and Retha Warnicke have pointed towards some of the more platonic language in the alleged love letter written by Catherine to Culpeper, suggesting that perhaps they were just close friends or that Catherine wrote it an attempt to appease him. Worsley and Conor Byrne have also expanded upon the theory that Culpeper (and Dereham) blackmailed Catherine; there is evidence that Dereham openly spoke about his relationship with Catherine. Culpeper could have easily caught wind of this, and with knowledge of her past, used it to coerce or persuade Catherine into seeing him.
      However, most historians still believe that Catherine and Thomas had a genuine, romantic relationship - or, at the very least, that there was no rape involved. It is not a stretch to say that there may have been some mutual feelings between the two (either platonic or intimate), since we know that the two met up in private and exchanged gifts. Whilst the love letter has been interpreted as evidence of the use of blackmail and coercion, it can just as easily be taken the other way. And yes, there is a report from the time describing charges of rape and murder against Culpeper (which, if genuine, would allow us to make an almost sure conclusion about the nature of his relationship with Catherine), but it has been dismissed by a handful of experts as unreliable.
      I am not saying that Catherine was promiscuous or that she was guilty of adultery - I am of the opinion that she was pressured into her relationships and was more than likely assaulted by Mannox and Dereham. She was only a child; it was not her fault and she didn’t deserve to die. However, it is simply not accurate to suggest Howard was beheaded for being raped - not only was she, legally speaking, condemned to death for not disclosing her sexual history before meeting the king, but accusations of rape were not wholly disregarded in the 16th century. Whilst ideas about femininity and masculinity were certainly different in the Tudor era, many cases of sexual assault were treated seriously - hence why we have numerous documentations of abuse from the period. The issue is not as black and white as the musical (or the comments section) make out. There is an absence of strong evidence for both sides of the argument - it is as likely that Culpeper did pressure Catherine into seeing him as it is that there were close romantic feelings between them. It is all just speculation.
      Apologies if I come off as condescending and pedantic; I don’t mean to lecture you.

    • @darcyexe3752
      @darcyexe3752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait did this stuff ACTUALLY happen-

  • @briannab8259
    @briannab8259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    idk why but my favorite part has always been "and ever since I was a child I'd make the boys go wild" and the little giggle after, she started the song so confident and pure

  • @zaynab1914
    @zaynab1914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    Like every time she says "birds and the bees" or "connection" her voice just goes a tiny more apprehensive and bitter each time and it just-

    • @lana.pat1308
      @lana.pat1308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Its heartbreaking

    • @adav135
      @adav135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea

  • @caskiris
    @caskiris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5931

    Anne Boylen might be my favourite queen but Katherine Howard was CLEARLY the one with the saddest story (also this animatic is amazing)

    • @zuzanakojecka8272
      @zuzanakojecka8272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +208

      @ACM 123 I think Anna of Cleaves got pretty good life too.

    • @jupiterskye5927
      @jupiterskye5927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      @@zuzanakojecka8272 Except..... The forced marriage part. She had a pretty creepy husband, who had murdered his past wives. That wasnt in the musical though, also I think Jane had the most 'decent' life. None of them were all that great, sadly.

    • @josjoererg
      @josjoererg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      The message of the show is not to compare the queens based on what happened to them

    • @caskiris
      @caskiris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@josjoererg i was just saying katherine howard story was really sad i wasn't trying to compare them sorry

    • @josjoererg
      @josjoererg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@caskiris i completely understand, I also was a bit rude. She had a tragic life I agree

  • @Alex_Hue
    @Alex_Hue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4553

    K Howard’s life in a nutshell:
    Katherine got used by several men as child, then when she was around 15, her uncle made her a lady in waiting to Anne of Cleves and put her in King Henry VIII’s view, Henry liked her and married her while Katherine was only 15 or 16, Her cousin, Thomas was working in the palace, and helped Katherine through tough times with Henry, then Thomas told her that he loved her (in ways that someone should not love their cousin) Katherine rejected him, Thomas told King Henry that he and Katherine had an affair, and he sent her to the tower, the night before Katherine lost her head, she spent many hours practicing how to put her head on the block, and on February 13th, 1542, Katherine Howard was beheaded, when she was only 18 or 19

    • @smolbean2.043
      @smolbean2.043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      19 and dang poor girl.

    • @sapphiremoonlight7773
      @sapphiremoonlight7773 4 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      That was really dark

    • @Zero_Is_Stopping_Time
      @Zero_Is_Stopping_Time 4 ปีที่แล้ว +197

      And Henry set her execution back every day, he really wanted to break her

    • @Alex_Hue
      @Alex_Hue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Underwatch Rnaqvi07 Yeah He did R@pe her but I didn’t wanna say it...
      also she was beheaded with an axe, not a sword.

    • @jacqueline10
      @jacqueline10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Wait but I thought Thomas manipulated her so she believed he truly loved her and she slept with him because she wanted it too? At least that's how we learned it.

  • @kenmakozume1304
    @kenmakozume1304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    The fact she just wanted someone to be with friends with and every time they say they love her she loses trust in them, the poor girl couldn’t get one all her life..

  • @yaboi3912
    @yaboi3912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27688

    you’re the only person I’ve seen so far actually portray her as a child and I am so grateful for that

    • @silversirena4507
      @silversirena4507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2462

      Especially how contrasting
      She's short and small and not at all adult looking
      She's so young throughout the entire play, and it hurts

    • @yaboi3912
      @yaboi3912 4 ปีที่แล้ว +595

      SilverSirena yeah!! makes the whole thing sm sadder

    • @digiarts2768
      @digiarts2768 4 ปีที่แล้ว +889

      It doesn't romantize what he did. He was a pedo... The other songs do. 🤢

    • @wordforger
      @wordforger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1275

      Yeah. She was only 19 when she was beheaded... So all these older guys took advantage of a young girl who had a serious lack of good parental guidance. Then she was killed because of it.

    • @pieck.thot_9953
      @pieck.thot_9953 4 ปีที่แล้ว +337

      Digi Arts yeah... the sad truths of the 15/1600’s... really sad.

  • @vvgirl6173
    @vvgirl6173 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1654

    I find Katheryn(?) Howard’s story so tragic. Like a Tragic Love story that Shakespeare would envy. She didn’t know what Love is and sought out for it. But all the men she met just used her for their own gain, not caring how much pain they’ll bring her. At the end when she thought she found someone who would be just her friend only to realise he was the same as the others. It cost her her life, and she died never knowing what Love truly is or finding someone who truly loved her.
    It makes me sad thinking about it yet this is still my favourite song I love to sing and dance to.

    • @ajwoiru90awd
      @ajwoiru90awd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Well apparantly the fourth guy genuinely had a connection with her, but someone spread rumors about her and they both were executed

    • @buttercupbaby8649
      @buttercupbaby8649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@ajwoiru90awd Really? But the way he's portrayed is more like she just wanted to be friends with him. I know for a fact that Francis was really nice to her and they treated each other like wife and husband and even promised each other to be married together

    • @lissawho4974
      @lissawho4974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      MintiKitCats No, be didn’t really want her. At least in the story of the musical. She wasn’t interested in him in that way and he forced himself on to her. Then someone told Henry who had her executed.

    • @outerspaced0221
      @outerspaced0221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, to me its kinda similar to Juliet or Katherine, from taming of the shrew, both kinda messed up stories.

    • @Ray-hk1zm
      @Ray-hk1zm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lissawho4974 I've heard multiple accounts - basically, the older the version, the more she was actually in a relationship with him. I trust newer accounts because they have more information, so you're right.

  • @emmaschell5074
    @emmaschell5074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1711

    When King Henry and Cathrine Howard were first married, she was too young to take part in court proceedings. She was 16 or 17 years old. A 46 year old man, married a 16 year old. How screwed up is that?

    • @yalikejazz5044
      @yalikejazz5044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      that's how it was back then, most kids died early so they were rushed to make kids

    • @hayleesgallery
      @hayleesgallery 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      actually Henry was 49 and Katherine/Kathryn was 16-17, but my opinion is she was married to him at 17

    • @cocoloco6060
      @cocoloco6060 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Daddy pig is 107 and mummy pig is 3 or 4 can’t remember

    • @xo_lexie
      @xo_lexie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Haylee Gammage no she was about 16 she was born like 1524 and married him in 1540

    • @hopetikvah4906
      @hopetikvah4906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Some say she was actually as young as 15

  • @KatBFabulous
    @KatBFabulous 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    Gruesome Fact: She was abused at 5, not 13. And she was beheaded at 17, depressing she never got to be an adult.

    • @kayla5799
      @kayla5799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Sadie Mezzo It’s unknown, 18-19

    • @chaotic_lesbian
      @chaotic_lesbian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      People don’t really know when so she was born, so she could have been 17 but she wasn’t older than 19

  • @somebody3487
    @somebody3487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +833

    Here are some facts about Catherine Howard - I will update this comment whenever I come across interesting information:
    - Her birthdate is a mystery, but most recent estimates put her year of birth at about 1523 or 1522. No official documents of her birth exist, so most figures are based around the wills of her relatives or charters of the households she served in.
    - There is no ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ way to spell her name, as there was no standardised system of spelling in the Tudor period. Historians have variously spelt her name as ‘Catherine’ or ‘Katherine’, but in her letter to Culpeper she herself wrote it as ‘Katheryn’.
    - She could play the virginals.
    - She was a lady-in-waiting to Anne of Cleves.
    - Catherine was educated in etiquette. She took her duties as queen seriously and carried out plenty of kind acts, such as sending warm sheets to the imprisoned Margaret Pole and securing a pardon for Sir Thomas Wyatt. Catherine also gifted Anne of Cleves two puppies and ring, despite the presents originally being for her.
    - Henry VIII probably never called Catherine his ‘rose without a thorn’. The phrase comes from a coin struck in 1526, years before the two were married, which bore the words ‘Henry VIII, the dazzling rose without a thorn’.
    - Catherine never had a legal trial. She was instead condemned to death by an act of parliament.
    - Her behaviour in the months leading up to her death was erratic. Eustace Chapuys recorded how she was ‘cheerful, and more plump and pretty than ever’ and that her only request was that the execution ‘be secret and not under the eyes of the world’. Later, she became hysterical and had to be forced onto the barge which took her to prison.
    - According to Chapuys, she requested that the block to be brought to her so that she practice dying gracefully. It was expected that nobles would go to their execution with great dignity and die in the image of Christ - that is, forgiving the executioner and accepting one’s fate.
    - She made her last confession to clergyman John White. She swore ‘upon salvation of her soul, that she was guiltless of that act of defiling the sovereign's bed’.
    - She wore a black velvet gown to her execution.
    - Her last words were not ‘I die a Queen, but I would rather die the wife of Culpeper’. This myth comes from a highly fictionalised and unreliable account by the writer of ‘The Spanish Chronicle’. Eyewitness Ottwell Johnson recorded how she declared her ‘lively faith in the blood of Christ only’ and then asked for ‘all Christian people to take regard unto [her] worthy and just punishment’.
    - The story about her collapsing and needing help to climb the scaffold does have some historical basis, as it comes from a recording by Charles de Marillac. However, this needs to be taken with a small pinch of salt since Marillac was not an eyewitness.
    - She was, mercifully, beheaded in a single blow of the axe. None of the accounts of her execution support the claim that it took more than one attempt to sever her head, or that the axe hit her back.
    - She was executed alongside her lady-in-waiting, Jane Rochford, with Catherine going first. Jane Rochford had been accused of arranging meetings between Catherine and Culpeper. Jane was the widow of George Boleyn (beheaded), the brother of Anne Boleyn (also beheaded).
    - Her remains (body and head) were buried in the Chapel of St Peter ad Vincula, within the walls of the Tower of London.
    - There is a story that lye or quicklime was poured over her body to make it decompose faster, but this hasn’t been definitively proven.
    RIP Queen Catherine Howard, c. 1523 - 13th February, 1542

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      From what I've read most people say catharine was scared while Anne boelyn was the one who bravely walking up and died in a clean swing with a experienced swordsman can you please inform me on that (I got that from google btw)

    • @somebody3487
      @somebody3487 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@readbluelock6713 Catherine’s composure at her execution:
      ‘According to Marillac, Catherine was ‘so weak that she could hardly speak’. But he was not an eye-witness. The merchant Ottwell Johnson was - and he gives a very different account.’ (David Starkey, ‘Six Wives: The Queens of Henry VIII’)
      ‘[Catherine’s] soul be with God, for [she] made the most Godly and Christian end, that ever was heard tell of since the world’s creation’ - Eyewitness account by Ottwell Johnson
      www.theanneboleynfiles.com/the-execution-of-catherine-howard/
      www.theanneboleynfiles.com/13-february-1542-catherine-howard-jane-boleyn-didnt-say/
      The swiftness of Catherine's execution:
      ‘Mercifully, the headsman removed her [Catherine’s] head with a single stroke of the axe’ (Josephine Wilkinson, ‘Katherine Howard: The Tragic Story of Henry VIII's Fifth Queen’)
      ‘The queen’s head was removed with a single stroke’ (Conor Byrne, ‘Katherine Howard: Henry VIII’s Slandered Queen’)
      ‘the masked executioner then took Catherine's head off with one blow’
      www.theanneboleynfiles.com/the-executions-of-catherine-howard-jane-boleyn-francis-dereham-and-thomas-culpeper/4357/
      Hope this helps!

    • @readbluelock6713
      @readbluelock6713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@somebody3487 thank you I researched this a while ago so I know the correct info now but I forgot about this comment and am too lazy to edit it thank you though

    • @emi-ne1kv
      @emi-ne1kv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wOAH WOAH WOAH SHE WAS A LADY IN WAITING TO ANNA OF CLEVES ???

    • @user-it1cp3ux5r
      @user-it1cp3ux5r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Stephanie Folz thats amazing! How did you know?

  • @strange5258
    @strange5258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5012

    My top 9 SIX songs
    9. you
    8. can't
    7. rank
    6. them
    5. they're
    4. all
    3. amazing
    2. works
    1. *hAUs Of hOlbEiN*

    • @cozycake7074
      @cozycake7074 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Lol

    • @yuugen1219
      @yuugen1219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      I think rank is way better than amazing like duh

    • @cookienrox5584
      @cookienrox5584 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol same

    • @addiewesaw
      @addiewesaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol yessss

    • @sselim3427
      @sselim3427 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      JAAAAA

  • @snak3l1b3ral5
    @snak3l1b3ral5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +413

    she just wanted a friend
    *cries*

    • @mehboobhassan371
      @mehboobhassan371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If only she met Adrien agreste

    • @mehboobhassan371
      @mehboobhassan371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @• Purple Academia • he protect he defend but most importantly he just a friend

  • @cinnamonjellyfish3432
    @cinnamonjellyfish3432 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Also the fact that even in the first verse when shes only 13 shes saying 'I think this time is different' like it's happened even before that time
    Eughhh

  • @alexquertz2999
    @alexquertz2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1229

    Katherine had the worst in my opinion...she was just a child when she was used and beheaded FOR NO REASON

    • @selenesenpaii6554
      @selenesenpaii6554 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      Yes I did have the worst but in the modern time musical I think this is one of the songs most people would agree that Jane had the saddest song but I had it the worst

    • @imagirlnamedricha6387
      @imagirlnamedricha6387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@selenesenpaii6554 jane had the saddest SONG, but you had the saddest LIFE

    • @مشعلناصرالعتيبي-د1ف
      @مشعلناصرالعتيبي-د1ف 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@imagirlnamedricha6387 8050809

    • @itskittybee8752
      @itskittybee8752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Her and Anne had some what of a choice and were not guilty but kathrine Howard had the worst because she was abused and manipulated her whole life

    • @imagirlnamedricha6387
      @imagirlnamedricha6387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@itskittybee8752 aragon’s marriage with henry lasted longer than howard’s life.

  • @thatdoesntsoundveryheroic1610
    @thatdoesntsoundveryheroic1610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +919

    i like how no one draws hnery seriously

    • @PLUHHHH167
      @PLUHHHH167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Ikr 😭

    • @jellygamerxx6608
      @jellygamerxx6608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same!

    • @CeCeBookworm07
      @CeCeBookworm07 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      The only time this specific animator drew him regularly was in Heart Of Stone because Jane really did love him, unfortunately. So she never saw him as a monster like the rest of them.☹️

    • @Demon-hj3fh
      @Demon-hj3fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fat Jackass

    • @kk-mj6fi
      @kk-mj6fi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@CeCeBookworm07 because she died early she didnt live enough to see his dark side

  • @itsvictoria4356
    @itsvictoria4356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +379

    I really want to see them cast a 17 year old for her in the musical so we can actually tell how young she was

    • @ary8182
      @ary8182 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or any 18 year old cause I don’t know how it works in London but in the us you get out of heigh school at 18 so the actdress wouldn’t miss or fall behind in school

    • @neviearea4679
      @neviearea4679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it’s 15/16 for the uk

    • @queeneon
      @queeneon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's Victoria she was 18 - 19 when she died so that would probably make it better since it’s like the ghost rising from the grave

  • @eselcool3720
    @eselcool3720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Damn.. the lyrics really tell you that she was still so young, barely a teenager when she started getting assaulted and used. "Enoughsie", "Birds-and-the-bees me", etc.. I feel so bad for her, she never even got to have a childhood, then got beheaded at 19.

  • @fangchick93
    @fangchick93 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    I like that none of the guys have pupils, because how they treated her was pretty inhuman

  • @erzsebetbathory7639
    @erzsebetbathory7639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2047

    Soo, I've been doing some research and I think the closest she got to a "real connection" was actually Francis Dereham, from what I understand they were pretty serious about their affair and planned to get married after he came back from a business trip to Ireland, even referring to each other as "Husband" and "Wife". That until the Dowager Duchess found out and she was sent to be a lady in waiting at court, where she met and was pressed to marry Henry... Mannox molested her, she expressed she couldn't reject his advances (I mean, she was just 13 and he was 36), we all know how Henry was as a husband, and regarding Thomas Culpeper, she only looked for a "sincere" friendship, when he made advances toward her and she rejected him he raped and then blackmailed her, which ultimately led to her execution... A truly sad story of continued abuse.
    Edit: This is the first time I've gotten so much attention for a comment, so thank you all for that
    Edit Two: As you might have guessed, yes I'm kind of a history buff and so I love learning about it and participating in discussions of the subject. And yes, I've got a soft spot for Katherine/Catherine (I see no reason to start a debate about it, both forms seem accurate to me considering the pretty lax orthography of the time period) and I love Kat in particular because I feel like I can sort of resonate with her and her situation, being trapped in repeatedly and worsening abusive situations it's horrible and feels to me like a cautionary tale to women (and men) on this day and age, I feel endless empathy for those who are or have been trapped on a similar situation...

    • @niit00
      @niit00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Whoa... I didn't know any of this... Poor Katherine... 😞

    • @niit00
      @niit00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Paxton Sievert oh sorry....

    • @alexys7402
      @alexys7402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paxton Sievert you both spelled it the exact same?

    • @Alice-si8uz
      @Alice-si8uz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I even read somewhere that had she claimed to have no sexual relations with him she could have survived but instead, she insisted that he raped her which is sad...

    • @hunnypie5790
      @hunnypie5790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I heard Dereham was a rapist?

  • @yasborito6045
    @yasborito6045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5962

    Everyone: **tries to impress Kathrine**
    Henry: **T POSE**
    Edit: HOLY THIS GOT A LOT OF LIKES TYSM
    Edit 2: AAAAAA WHAT THIS HAS 5K THANK YOU GUYSSS

    • @cake3772
      @cake3772 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      LMAOOOOO U SAW THAT TOO XD

    • @taekotoga6548
      @taekotoga6548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      I’m 1:55 Pearl from Steven universe is in the background just saying

    • @TheJuliorojas
      @TheJuliorojas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That’s how you show your dominant

    • @irina3148
      @irina3148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      PacoSucks 69, yep that’s how you assert your dominance😂

    • @user-es6ge5vh3j
      @user-es6ge5vh3j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      As a female, let me say, T posing is the best way to gt a girl.

  • @agnes6276
    @agnes6276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    Francis: "do dis"
    Katherine: "n-"
    Francis: *triggered*

  • @RideTheCycloneFuel
    @RideTheCycloneFuel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +404

    What makes it worse was that she only wanted to be friends with Thomas, as said in the line 'Just mates, no chemistry', I think I heard that Katherine had been forced to write a love letter to Thomas or something like that.

    • @Victoria-mw7rk
      @Victoria-mw7rk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      We are not sure at all, but historians found that the love letter she wrote to him she wrote it strangely more stressed than other letters she had written and also his cousin also had raped many other girls even knowing that Henry still let him in, so she was probably forced and raped..

    • @spicytapwater1145
      @spicytapwater1145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Shes was raped and blackmailed, and becuase she was a 18 year old women, no body believed she was raped, and beheaded her,

  • @shortstackashe
    @shortstackashe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    when she says "He says we have this... connection" you can hear her heart break at that exact moment. Just the optimism followed by the crushing dissapointment. You can hear her reaction "don't say it... Don't say it... Don't say i--..."

    • @boocrimson7720
      @boocrimson7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That moment broke my heart for her. She finally had a genuine relationship with a friend. He just wanted to sleep with her in the end like the others. That hurts me deeply. Like the others it was kinda red flags. But she didn't know any better. After she had been through so much in this version of the story she finally makes a friend who cares and he just wanted in her pants as well.

    • @shortstackashe
      @shortstackashe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@boocrimson7720 I was actually talking about Henry's bit, but that's absolutely so true!

    • @boocrimson7720
      @boocrimson7720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@shortstackashe
      That makes sense too but yeah it hurt me to watch her finally have someone after everything she's been through give her a caring friendship and then at the end it was "oh by the way ;) " that hurt me to watch

    • @xo_lexie
      @xo_lexie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah in real life Thomas was apparently her cousin too, and he raped her when she rejected his feelings. Then he blackmailed her which eventually led to her being executed):

  • @panicontheargo7034
    @panicontheargo7034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1567

    Have you noticed that with Francis she sounded a lot more sure when she said “and I know this is it” and “we have a REAL connection”? I think this alludes to the rumour that she truly loved Francis

    • @smolbean2.043
      @smolbean2.043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      And then he ended up getting her executed.

    • @mariunfabregas7533
      @mariunfabregas7533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@smolbean2.043 that little b*tch lol

    • @kennedyhuff
      @kennedyhuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@smolbean2.043 tbf, he got executed too

    • @millienne8201
      @millienne8201 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@kennedyhuff
      After condemning her to death. Great guy...

    • @Aisha-uv1bd
      @Aisha-uv1bd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HomosapienNo94628 Thanks for that it really cleared some things up for me !

  • @pugsisterlocationsix9073
    @pugsisterlocationsix9073 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I feel really bad for liking the song cause of how bad she was mistreated BUT ITS SO HECKING CATCHY

    • @lesbiangoddess290
      @lesbiangoddess290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The song is so catchy but her whole life and relationships would be so illegal now.

  • @PlagueBunny
    @PlagueBunny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +537

    I’ve never heard this musical but damn this is sad.

    • @lissie8602
      @lissie8602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The truth is even sadder

    • @de-lovely7859
      @de-lovely7859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      None of Your Business what's even sadder, is that this was based on a true historical event of Catherine Howard.

    • @de-lovely7859
      @de-lovely7859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      lil.i558 That's true. I'm really glad that this musical cleared it out for us. This musical may not be that really accurate, but at least we get to learn a more detailed life story of her.

    • @xoxbbygirl1012
      @xoxbbygirl1012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is actually exactly what happened, but the men where actually two times older than her

    • @de-lovely7859
      @de-lovely7859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Queen Aqua Green Yeah I know. I just said it wasn't really that accurate because like you said the men were two times older than her. And other little things like Jane Seymour said "I'm the only one he truly love" which is quite falls, she only bear a son for him, but that doesn't really mean he loved her. But over the musical was accurate, there's just a little falls in it😊

  • @chicha3maddy971
    @chicha3maddy971 4 ปีที่แล้ว +663

    THE ENDING WITH HER EXECUTION IN THE SHARDS OF GLASS
    I WAS NOT PREPARED

  • @noodlerdoodler
    @noodlerdoodler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    it really portrays the tragedy of her life but also “me and my fam” & “you oki? u need help” *henry t pose*