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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Found this one on eBay, wasn't all that interested at first, but the seller offered me a good price a figured it'd be worth a shot to repair it. This is the first CD player I've attempted to fix, and I think it went quite well. Granted the largest problem I had to fix could have been caused by me, but hey that's just part of the fun hah.
I don't think I will be picking up any more CD players, unless there is something mechanically interesting with it, since they are fairly simple devices in terms of mechanics. (Incredibly cool electronically however) And CD's, or digital audio in general doesn't have much appeal to me either. It's kinda hollow, with no nuanced differences across devices, while a tape could sound somewhat different depending on the device used.
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Folks please upvote everything on this channel and comments too. It's helps the algorithm for his channel. These types are videos are great. I'm a locksmith by trade for the last 30 years but also restore old electronics like tape recorders reel to reels etc. I'm no expert just a hobbyist and love videos EXACTLY like he does.
And no, I don't know him and not related 🤣
I just found his channel last week and fell in love with it.
(I also do 3d modeling and animation as a hobby for 20 years hence my name. I've 3d modeled plastic parts too for broken electronic parts and 3d printed them)
Same here. I love to tinker with electronics, and of course have a 3D printer!
The bottom panel of this unit having the hexagon pattern is very unique.
I thought what is this? A CD player for bees?
Loving your videos. It's kind of funny when you think how mechanical CDs actually were. When I think DIGITAL you no longer imagine mechanical contraptions like CD players.
Hard drives are mechanical :)
@@xaverlustig3581 SSD hard drives are not.
@@nickfatsis9607 SSD aren't hard drives
@@xaverlustig3581 since when? A HDD and a SSD only differ by one having a spinning disk and the other having no moving parts, an SSD is still a “hard drive” because it’s usually when your OS system is stored
@@nickfatsis9607 SSD and HDD perform the same function, but the word "hard drive" is short for "hard disk drive" (HDD) and refers to devices with spinning disks only. Calling an SSD a "hard drive" is simply wrong, even if some people do it.
These old CD-players have an awesome sound! They really worth the effort. This actually gives me also ideas about some old unit I have. thx.
I love the format and execution of your videos. I hope you continue to make more!
Another problem some of these Pioneer CD players had was skipping caused by wobble of the disc motor shaft. The fix was a stabilization kit kit supplied by Pioneer. It consisted of a small neodymium magnet that was glued to the motor as close as possible to the spindle. This minimized the extent of the wobble. I never had a unit come back again for this problem once this fix was applied.
Love these vids! I have a Technics RS-TR157 and it’s not able to play tapes anymore and the gears aren’t happy and watching these makes me want to take another stab at trying to fix it every time
I know! This channel rocks! When I got the notification this a.m. I got all happy 👍
3:11 if it's from 1987, can then easily be owned by a metal head
Right on man ! Just finishing up an old BSR record changer tune up, think I'll bring in the old 1990 Panasonic single CD from the garage for a look at what may be wrong (?) Never tinkered with a CD player before, so thanks for the idea !
If you want a good 80s cd player Technics is your go to. I have a PL-555 from 1988 still going strong. Good job on the fix!
Those old pioneer CD players are known for the laser lens to fall out. Just never do what I did once was use super glue as it will damage the laser. Another common problem is the capacitors tend to go bad as on one I had it worked when first got it and the next day it wouldn't read a CD do to caps going bad.
Huh, I was pretty close to using super glue, I went with a more gel like glue because I figured it be easy to apply; guess I lucked out haha
@@HifiJelly you should never use super glue to glue these lenses in, the vapours from the glue will permanently fog the lens, I use wood PVA glue, no vapours and gives a great bond.
As I remember of those players they had only 3 seconds of memory for skipping. This internal memory allows you to not hear the skipping.
Then later it increases to 10 to 15 seconds for the portable models first then the stand alone players.
Skipping was a serious problem at that time.Then sound quality with increases oversampling to increase the quality. Because of the sharp sound Good Video 😎 one thing I just remembered was the high end cd players the disk moved over the laser for better stability. To lower the cost most players were designed for the laser to move.
That was probably our first CD player. We won it on the radio. Had it for years.
Something to watch out for in laser based players: the lasers are super sensitive to static shock. The two solder pads on the laser ribbon are for bridging to short the laser out so it can't be damaged by technitans fingers
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Thank you!
I used to repair 80 's CD players and enjoyed it until I could not find pickups anymore except on chinese sites where half of the time. they would send me fake, wrong or damaged parts. Instead I now repair and refurbish amplifiers... (but for amps, the main issue are the pots, especially when they have loudness....) Still enjoy the challenge though.
Cool! Can't wait to watch this later tonight! You have a great way of making videos 👍
Great Video !!! I Bought this CD Player pluss PIONEER SX-700L STEREO RECEIVER for $23 . Receiver works Great so I´m gonna try to fix de CD player. .. Thanks
Acetone on the sticker glue gets residue right off.
Well it is missing it’s feet, so it looks like someone had done something to it. Love those 80’s audio tech. Nice video’s. I use a 80’s philips cd player as my main player. No fancy extra’s, just the basics.
Possibly used by a DJ/Karaoke as we used to take the feet off to make more space in the rack. but they did skip and jump.
wow, you fixed it, well done
That was a nice gaff half way thru. "Yeah the CD still skips". No spoilers please, cause the end suspense fizzles out like a flat soda pop... 😂
If you ever get a slightly later Pioneer CD player that either struggles to spin, try putting a very tiny amount of a very light oil down the motor shaft. It will only temporarily fix it, but prove it’s the motor. The motors came without the turntable and you had to very carefully prise the old one off. But in the black plastic cd mechanism was a modded U snapped piece of plastic, you cut that out and put it on the new motor, before pushing the turntable back on, it then acts as a height setting jig for the turntable.
What ? Flying lazer lens ? 😀
I refurbish video game consoles. When I fix disc-based systems like PlayStations and Xboxes, I just replace the whole laser assembly. Sometimes the entire drive. In my community, the consensus is it's just not worth it.
After re-gluing the laser, you need to adjust the focus and power of the laser as the lense is a minute bit off where it was at the factory. You'll need a scope ... or trial and error. The lasers on these old things don't last forever. Sometimes these old players won't play newer pressed CDs or CD-Rs ... randomly. YMMV.
From comments I’m seeing it seems be a bit of a miracle it is working as well as it is haha. I haven’t had a single issue with it since putting it back together with zero calibration, maybe I’ve just jinxed it though haha.
A soft toothbrush is great for cleaning the nooks and crannies of a faceplate and its buttons.
I had to laugh when you were talking about the long hair. In the 80's, guys usually had longer hair than the girls. :)
The lens falling out was the common issue with these.
You missed the solder blob on the ribbon cable you should bridge this when removing the laser to prevent static damage. Sometimes you can adjust the laser (the pot on the ribbon cable) this changes the power to the laser however this is only a temporary fix usually the laser is about to die.
Just dig your delivery, on board with you. Stay killer!
Got a two drawer pioneer from 1989 that's been in storage for 10 years.says no disk.im gonna try what djs used to do when they got their kit set up from a cold van to a warm room.Condensation.A hair dryer blowing on the mech????
I've been a tech for 40+yrs Pioneers won't spin up to search for the TOC if the laser can't see the disc n unlike most other brands you can't just replace the laser n your good to go.
There's a long laser aligment procedure with special cd's n test equipment, I used to hate replacing lasers in Pioneers under warranty back in the day!... BTW YOU NEVER DISCONNECT A LASER WITHOUT THE STATIC DISCHARGE SOLDER LINK IN PLACE IT WILL KILL A GOOD LASER!
Nicely done Sir, liked the fast pace. Just bought a Pioneer DV-45A 50 Dollars on CL, 350 Dollars new in 2002 (For Music) because and does play a SACD. WTH is that Sony chip doing in a Pioneer.
It has all Sony chips, 1 Mitsubishi chip and 1 pioneer chip which I believe is only for a controller.
Illusion of choice
Its caved in on top because you lent on it to clean it 😂
Nice graphic equaliser too!
What fixed the motor? Did i miss something?
The motor was never broken, that was just a theory I had going into it, I'm guessing it wasn't spinning the disk much when I first tried it because there was no signal from the disc being generated with the lens loose in its housing. So, it was just erroring out and stopping the disc from coming up to full speed.
@@HifiJelly clear! Thanks!
Very interesting, thank you
Super glue mixed with baking soda makes a good repair!
Hope that is not super glue. Cyanoacrilate can corrode abs plastic making the lens dull. Use some B7000 next time.
Is the track / min working?
Nice video. New subscribed here
Thanks! and yep the track counter seems to work fine. I think it only shows the minute counter when fast forwarding/rewinding to show you at what minute you're at.
I enjoy watching this stuff
Good work!!!
Great job ❤
Ooh. A sony metal SR. Fancy.
Great Video. Now i have another TH-cam Channel to watch. it looks like the piece was already broken.
The loose object was the Laser Objective Lens, used to focus the Laser on the surface of the disc.
I have an early Philips CD Player from 1984 (38 years old) and it has ribbon cables.
A CD Player is no less repairable than other Hi-Fi equipment, but it's all a question of SPARE PART AVAILABILITY.
The SPOILER told the viewer that the player WORKS, before the repair was completed! ... As Homer would say, "Doh!" 👎😂
Pioneer's quality "going down" by 1987? ... That's ONLY 5 years after the CD format launched! ... It's just "bad design" and "cheaping out," as I've never experienced that issue!
EDIT: My Philips player uses a "swing arm" laser mech, as opposed to the linear tracking Sony mech. Swing arm is FAR SUPERIOR in performance to any linear mech I've used! Philips discontinued it, due to the requirements of Computer Optical Drives, which were not suited to Swing Arm audio mechs.
Yeah, Technology Connections has a great video demonstrating the difference between the Philips swing arm and the Sony type mech I have here.
This is not the Center Stabilizer this is a 'Schnappi' in the middle! 😂 this plastic part you must make a 3D printing part if it is not available. 👍
You fix stuff like me, break a bunch of other things at the same time 😂. Good job though.
Haha Thanks!
Пластиковые лицевые панели мою просто под струёй воды с мылом.
What kind of glue did you use for the lens
The equalizer
Haha thanks! I got it solely for that great VF spectrum analyzer.
Rather enjoyed that, dude. Almost like new for something so ancient....
I find that most 1980s CD players are finicky with regards to their ability to read and track discs. However, I find that the Magnavox CD players from that era do a better job overall.
great thanks!
I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE WITH EQS. 12 MEANS 12 PERCENT OF 100 PERCENT OF THAT FREQUENCY. PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO SLIDE THEM ALL WAY UP OR DOWN CAUSE THEY THINK ALL WAY UP IS 100% ALL THE WAY UP. NO. 12 IS 12 PERCENT WHICH IS 12 OF 100 SO ALL THE WAY UP IS A TINY BIT. MOVE THOSE THINGS. ALWAYS MOVE 16 K ALL THE WAY THEN TURN DOWN 6K IF IT SOUNDS HARSH. THIERS ALWAYS A DEFICIENCY OF 16K And we CAN'T HEAR IT.
great video!
Thanks!
@@HifiJelly Just a word of caution and so you know for the future endeavors with CD players the ribbon cable that had the two solder spots is to be bridged BEFORE you remove the ribbon cable, once you remove the connectors from the laser assembly it is vulnerable static damage you are very lucky it didn't get zapped thus killing the laser itself. EVERY laser pickup has a spot to protect the laser from static damage. Just don't forget to clear it once once the connection(s) are restored to the laser pickup. The sled and spindle motors aren't static sensitive so no need to short those. Bridging the laser protection is only necessary if you disconnect the laser connector from the pick up. Great job make sure everything moves freely sled motor and spindle motor and that unit should last a VERY LONG time.
Another poster wrote about the type of glue to use, DO NOT use super glue use wood glue it doesn't put off any gases harmful to the internal optics. Let the wood glue throughly dry and you should be all set for a great many ah hours of CD listening enjoyment. They certainly don't make CD players like that anymore. Now a days pretty much the only metal is the motors MAYBE the frame that holds the motors, other wise its practically ALL plastic inside modern made CD players. Unless you pay 1000s for an audiophile type transport (external DAC) usually required for those too.
Thanks! I was wondering what those exposed solder points on the ribbon cable were, and that explains it!
@@HifiJelly You're welcome hopefully that will save you from static accidents in future repairs on that unit or future DVD/CD player units too.
Smashthings1 actually smashed this same model.
Great video chap
Great video.
If i have a lens scratched, just lens because it fell of (i have a pioneer pd5700), the laser is okay, i can replace it with a universal plastic lens? Just the plastic part no all the mechanism itself. Thanks!
1987 isn't late for pioneer in terms of quality. they weren't the best cd player maker ever though; with the exception of some of their later changer decks
also, when you're using epoxy to fix a structural support like that, something you can do to make it stronger is to drill small holes in the material so that the epoxy can surround the plastic, and you can put metal mesh around the piece to reinforce it
I thought about drilling a hole in it, but the smallest drill I had was 1/16 inch and I didn't trust my ability to not completely destroy the part while drilling it haha
@@HifiJelly yeah, i'm not trying to criticize. i understand we all work with what we have sometimes. i have been doing this kind of repairs you also do for a long time, so i only wanted to pass on my experience. i enjoy your videos, please keep making them
i want to mod my sony cdp-d500 where can i buy hifi caps, ic chips and parts for it online ?
What camera do you use to record these videos?
Thanks!
I just use my phone haha, it’s an iPhone 12 Pro Max.
@@HifiJellyThanks! Looking forward to your next upload!👍
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My first cd player was a Pioneer but the 5 disc cartridge type and boy did that scratch up discs! I still have my cds and can tell which ones were played on that thing.
Have to clean and lube all moving parts.
I have encountered plenty of broken(won't play) consumer grade mid fi CD players. If the problem is in the logic or digital control I am forget it. How do you analyze a brain fart in the computer? If you can find something familiar like a broken part that is replaceable or a power supply or audio problem, that is accessible to me. Mechanicals are probably unavailable unless you salvage them. Most of them are not worth the trouble at all.
Hello, I just picked up one of these cd players. Can it be connected straight to speakers, or does it have to go to a tuner first??
You need to plug it into an amplifier which would be connected to speakers.
Lots of plastic so wear is accelerated and thus, failure.
Clean the head home switch.
How Dare you gender the previous owner as a Woman! 😆
I have a Pioneer PD - 7050 in my collection, the laser mechanism is the same. Thank God, my disk stabilizer was just not in place. The most unpleasant thing is when it does not read disks and nothing dangles inside. You open it - there are no lenses either in the laser or inside the case - that's the problem. And so if you received a package with a disc player and something rattles inside, then 99% is a lens - just glued and repair work 30 minutes. Lenses on multi-disk pioneers especially like to fly out - there the lens is directed down.
У меня в коллекции есть Pioneer PD - 7050, механизм лазера такой же. Слава богу у меня стабилизатор диска только был не на месте Самое неприятное, когда диски не читает и внутри ничего не болтается. Открываешь - линзы нет ни в лазере ни внутри корпуса - вот это проблема. А так если получил посылку с проигрывателем дисков и внутри что то гремит, то 99 % это линза - просто приклеил и работы по ремонту 30 минут. Особенно любят вылетать линзы на многодисковых пионерах - там линза вниз направлена.
Just do9wnload an mp3
lol
that's boring, using a CD player from the 80s, especially one that was a high end model is much more fun, buying a high end model for $10 because it doesn't then fixing it and using it is much more enjoyable.
@nickfatsis9607 yeah good luck finding a working one that players ever cd. 80 minute cds ruined vintage players.
@@simon_1987 I don't need to find a working one, I service them and bring them back to life, I've never seen a CD player than couldn't play an 80 minute CD, older CD players can sometimes have difficulty playing burnt CDs, that's because a burnt CD has a lower waveform output than a commercially pressed CD, I actually seek out CD players that don't work for cheap, so I can repair them, I make good money selling them after repairing them.
@nickfatsis9607 you sound fun.
I only listen to cds in the car because the Internet ducks more dick than my trans brother