One thing I like about your videos is how formal you are. I know that sounds weird, but good manners can go a long way. I'm studying business currently so I'm learning more than just buses from your videos. And as always, your buses are great. I'm glad that you try and take good care of them and order options to make them last (although this is a dealer unit).
Cool video. Working for my company I've had 3 Ic Bues. 05, 08, 16. After 13 years my back is terrible I got to step away from driving. Every bus my company had was a solid frame driver seat no give. Man What a joy a air seat must be.
A 2021 international school bus already being made?! All I can say is that international did a great job on this bus, in my opinion they are the best of the best when it comes to school buses.
@Nicks Lawn Care agreed 100%! My very first school bus I was on was a 2003 International 3800 with the 7.3L T444E under the hood. Zane in my final year of high school I got to go on a brand new 2017 International IC-CE with the Cummins 6.7L under the hood, and let me tell you that both of those buses were built to last unlike the 2010 Thomas C2 That I was on. Sure it ran fine the first few years, but after that the reliability just went out the window.
Nice thorough video. The exhaust pipe was able to be reduced in size because of changes in the DPF/emissions system. It doesn't burn quite as hot, which means it no longer needs the diffuser on the end.
@@SwannBus Hi Adam, was wondering if you could tell me what LED light bulbs you use to replace the IC CE lights on your buses. You mention that you replace the bulbs with LEDs in your videos. Thanks in advance.
6:17 I've been on a 2004 IC CE300 but the Stop Sign didn't have that problem. I mean, sometimes my driver would have to activate the reds again and deactivate them, but otherwise, that stop arm was fine. It's a TX bus anyway, so it doesn't get too cold in the winter. Unlike December 2017...
Hello from Oklahoma I recent starting watching your videos and I subscribed to you I'm a school bus lover especially IC which is also made here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. But yeah your videos are awesome
If it was up to me our school district would have all Internationals. Instead we have a mish-mash of Internationals, Blue Birds and Thomas with Thomas giving us the most maintenance headaches.
Some things interesting about IC Bus, is that they are the cab and chassis of the DuraStar, yet some features have not carried over. The DuraStar has been upgraded to the MV cab (to match the new ProStar-LT tractor) the IC still has the older DuraStar cab. The DuraStar has the air horn on the wheel, the MV has a pull cord. Unknown where this horn is. The Internationals have an ISB or an ISL as options, the IC has only the ISB. Not bashing, it is a beautiful bus, the age of Freightliner buses is showing, International has started upgrading theirs, a far nicer interior, better handling, more comfortable. The differences of IC to international are just interesting. I am impressed, congratulations.
jfsa380 Thanks, I agree. However, we must remember that any changes to a school bus has to be approved by the federal government. I think the IC will migrate to the MV interior but it must be vetted by the government for school bus duty. I’m thinking 2024/2025 we’ll see an update.
Go with a Bluebird Powered by Gas bus for your next purchase. They are really great in the cold, my district loves the 2 we bought. Whenever a school needs a bus of go for a Bluebird!
ICCE 83 just not a BB guy, even when I tried my dealer offered terrible customer service. Additionally, Ford is slated to stop producing the 6.8 V10 found in the BB gasoline bus. Not sure when they will start offering the new 7.3 gasoline, but that could be a contender for me in the future. Lastly, the 8.8 gasser in my IC is impressive, I’ll likely get another one soon. Thanks for watching!!!
Your buses are consistently ordered or purchased as conventionals. Is that your preference or the school districts? What's your opinion on the RE models? I've driven Thomas conventionals and it's uncomfortably light on the front end. Feels unsafe.
Some serious chrome. And people, just don’t say it’s not an 2021, look at the registration. Also don’t say you work at so called “ICCE” we all know the bus developer is Navistar and IC bus. This bus wasn’t custom ordered, and has and runs on Diesel. The engine is Cummins. It has 260 HP. The headlights were replaced to be LED, if you couldn’t tell. In this video the bus had 1392 miles. The bus was built as of 9/19 (correct me if I’m wrong) And that basically sums up the video.
i wonder how many batteries you have on that bus ,mine was a thomas 1999 and had 3 batteries and way less computers and no a.c., for the air leaks i had on my Thomas often was the tank bleeder and the supply air tank fittings that was way too stretched because of short air hose , on week ends normally i was loosing around 10 psi at the most
I notice all the IC's built new since this summer have thicker "school bus" lettering than before. (Subtle but noticeable). No steering wheel door controls?? Is this the new standard or an option? I remember a LIMITED amount of buses (06's and 07's) with manual handle doors with cruise control switches on steering wheel instead of door and amber/red controls. Undercoating is a plus; it's about time they did that!!! I think white roof buses should be STANDARD!!! I agree with stop sign wire reinforcements. Yeah, the cross arm magnets, not surprised they disappeared. More often than not, they didn't work, even early on. Amazing about the newer IC's holding their air so well. My company hasn't bought IC's in 5 years but Thomas. And you're right about Thomas. Some buses, even newer ones leak overnight. We even had a brand new one, just delivered, and I found one air gauge close to full and the other one well below 60 psi. About date oddities, it seems they skip a year when a bus is built after the start of a school year. A bus I trained on for my CDL was an 04 IC, though the date of manufacture was 12/2002. And the 06 year buses I mentioned earlier were actually built in late fall of 2004. So it's not unusual.
The only problem I have with Internationals is the windows don't latch tightly. I have a 2015 with more than a half dozen windows that won't stay closed all the way. I don't understand why that problem hasn't been addressed. They come new from the factory like that.
Interesting fact you'll appreciate ... Our school system has only ever used 'city transit buses" as our SCHOOL BUSES. As you can imagine... many rules out the window: no stop signs, front arm, and students aren't allowed to cross the street IN FRONT OF THE BUS! Check out Rome City Schools, Rome, Georgia. RTD = Rome Transit Department. The state & feds are forcing a change. Sooooo 36 buses are on order, drivers being hired, mechanics, bus shop, etc. Gonna be making the transition in JAN 2020.
Toxic Venom the Alcoa’s aren’t standard, but seriously please review the NHSA and the FMCA statistics on school bus fatalities. Millions of people are safely transported on the yellow bus each year. People and lawmakers love to think that adding seat belts to buses is the easy fix, but it’s more complicated than that.
Hello there, it is indeed, always a pleasure to get a new video from you my friend.[We do not know each other, but I hope you will not mind if I call you my friend].Thank you for showing us this beautiful machine .
Love your content but a little confused are you keeping this bus or 8s it for another driver or is it just a spare bus because dont you already have your own bus
Brayden 26 as the owner, I don’t generally drive everyday. This bus will be used as a trip bus with multiple drivers. I’ve ordered a “spare” for myself which should be delivered soon.
Telluride I know right, honesty not sure when they will change it. The MV drivers area will need to be approved by the federal government for school bus use. So, that could take a while.
Yeah, that too but with Adam actually having a product that works and he use on a daily basis, I would like to try that one. I know there are tons on the market however every kit isn’t created equally. I don’t want to put in a cheaper light that last maybe 100 hours and then the bulb goes out which I read on many reviews of LED conversion kits.
Our new ic sets for 2 hours and tank 1 down to 60, cross your fingers on the door switch door operation, mine is faulty i go to switch to door open and takes 8 to ten seconds to open and thats after it was supposedly fixed, bs. I wished they had choosen to go with cummins instead the PSI 8.8L man they are pooches on hills, plus driver slider window rattles like heck annoying, hey ic update that! Drives ppl nuts having to put up with that.
tmaq97 your air pressure issue could be caused by the difference between the 8.8 engine (belt driven compressor) and the Cummins (gear driven compressor). I’ll do some research to see if the unit on the PSI engines flow the same 18.7 cfms as the gear driven units. I haven’t purchased any gasoline ICs but would consider one as a spare.
Beautiful bus! This starts off 2021 with a good start.
One thing I like about your videos is how formal you are. I know that sounds weird, but good manners can go a long way. I'm studying business currently so I'm learning more than just buses from your videos. And as always, your buses are great. I'm glad that you try and take good care of them and order options to make them last (although this is a dealer unit).
Project 681 best comment of the year! Thank you, I appreciate it and best of luck in your studies.
@@SwannBus Thank you, and I hope the best for you and your endeavors as well.
It’s always nice to see an update from you. Another beautiful bus! Thank you for sharing!👍🏻
Cool video. Working for my company I've had 3 Ic Bues. 05, 08, 16. After 13 years my back is terrible I got to step away from driving. Every bus my company had was a solid frame driver seat no give. Man What a joy a air seat must be.
Sweet God. 2021, this is so amazing!
A 2021 international school bus already being made?! All I can say is that international did a great job on this bus, in my opinion they are the best of the best when it comes to school buses.
Jordan Lowe ElevaTours Canada and bluebird
@Nicks Lawn Care agreed 100%! My very first school bus I was on was a 2003 International 3800 with the 7.3L T444E under the hood. Zane in my final year of high school I got to go on a brand new 2017 International IC-CE with the Cummins 6.7L under the hood, and let me tell you that both of those buses were built to last unlike the 2010 Thomas C2 That I was on. Sure it ran fine the first few years, but after that the reliability just went out the window.
Nice thorough video. The exhaust pipe was able to be reduced in size because of changes in the DPF/emissions system. It doesn't burn quite as hot, which means it no longer needs the diffuser on the end.
This just keeps getting better and better!
Keep these type of videos coming. I love to see what you are doing with the latest and greatest equipment.
Patrick McKim thanks, I love what I do!
@@SwannBus It is clear that you do! I only wish I drove for your company instead of the one that I do.. Old Shabby School buses really suck!
@@SwannBus Hi Adam, was wondering if you could tell me what LED light bulbs you use to replace the IC CE lights on your buses. You mention that you replace the bulbs with LEDs in your videos. Thanks in advance.
6:17 I've been on a 2004 IC CE300 but the Stop Sign didn't have that problem. I mean, sometimes my driver would have to activate the reds again and deactivate them, but otherwise, that stop arm was fine. It's a TX bus anyway, so it doesn't get too cold in the winter. Unlike December 2017...
Now that is totally awesome video about your school bus 2021 ic ce international .. can't wait to see more totally awesome videos
Wow i love all the chrome on it!
Man! You where right, you do have a 2021 CE. This has to be the only one in service in the country.
Possibly
*Perhaps*
Nice looking bus you have there! I like it!
I really like the buses with 2 stop signs, because it really brings more attention to driver's coming up behind the bus.
Very nice unit! Love the spec’s!
Hello from Oklahoma I recent starting watching your videos and I subscribed to you I'm a school bus lover especially IC which is also made here in Tulsa, Oklahoma. But yeah your videos are awesome
We love when the videos are long
school bus guru but they take soooo long to upload lol
@@SwannBus when you drive the bus do you push the accelerator all the way down
school bus guru not usually, but it depends on the load. 260HP buses have plenty of power and don’t have to be pushed hard.
@@SwannBus Are You Gonna Make A Video Soon
Those rims rock that bus!!!
I love this bus
This Bus still looks like 2020 IC CE and a Northwest bus. Most New IC CE Buses have Cummins as of 2016!
Lovely bus!
I Am Buy Next week
Love this spec
Good looking bus
Nice, beautiful CE. Love it
Yes.. That is a Federal Law all busses have it except athlete busses
@@desmonddeshawncannonjr2011 w h a t
@@jesusarroyo9737 What??
@@desmonddeshawncannonjr2011 What does my comment have to do with federal law? Or were you making a joke?
@@jesusarroyo9737 Maybe he clicked the wrong comment and still has not realized it.
What a beauty! Heck of a bus.
Nice video!
If it was up to me our school district would have all Internationals. Instead we have a mish-mash of Internationals, Blue Birds and Thomas with Thomas giving us the most maintenance headaches.
Some things interesting about IC Bus, is that they are the cab and chassis of the DuraStar, yet some features have not carried over. The DuraStar has been upgraded to the MV cab (to match the new ProStar-LT tractor) the IC still has the older DuraStar cab. The DuraStar has the air horn on the wheel, the MV has a pull cord. Unknown where this horn is. The Internationals have an ISB or an ISL as options, the IC has only the ISB. Not bashing, it is a beautiful bus, the age of Freightliner buses is showing, International has started upgrading theirs, a far nicer interior, better handling, more comfortable. The differences of IC to international are just interesting. I am impressed, congratulations.
jfsa380 Thanks, I agree. However, we must remember that any changes to a school bus has to be approved by the federal government. I think the IC will migrate to the MV interior but it must be vetted by the government for school bus duty. I’m thinking 2024/2025 we’ll see an update.
My favorite new ones
There are 2020s IC CE buses by Northwest Local School District here in Hamilton County already with numbers 32, 5, 27 and 28
I live in hamilton county too
Michael'ss Lalaloopsy Land Movie Show Corner are 32 is a bluebird vision which I’m on now
IC CE Northwest L.S.D
Hey man, got a question for you. I know you mentioned before that you run LED headlights. Which ones are you using?
So technically if it’s a 2021, it won’t start to age until the year 2021?🤔
Jeffrey Groves lol
i look up to you and terrence. a black owned company showing me that i could be in the same position in a couple of years.
Go with a Bluebird Powered by Gas bus for your next purchase. They are really great in the cold, my district loves the 2 we bought. Whenever a school needs a bus of go for a Bluebird!
ICCE 83 just not a BB guy, even when I tried my dealer offered terrible customer service. Additionally, Ford is slated to stop producing the 6.8 V10 found in the BB gasoline bus. Not sure when they will start offering the new 7.3 gasoline, but that could be a contender for me in the future. Lastly, the 8.8 gasser in my IC is impressive, I’ll likely get another one soon. Thanks for watching!!!
Very nice school bus i like school buses school buses r very cool
Happy Sunday
it’s 2019 and 2021 are out already?
IC Started the 2021 model year on the 1st of October. They do this every october
MISD got their 2020 CE's last school year. First one I saw was in January
I’ve never understood it.
We got our 2020 visions in October 2018
@@AJDeereWe took delivery of our 2020 birds.... five months early!
Could you make a video on the bus with the after market Air conditioner? And maybe a tour of all the buses you have or own?
I’d drive it. 😂😂. Nice ride.
Your buses are consistently ordered or purchased as conventionals. Is that your preference or the school districts? What's your opinion on the RE models? I've driven Thomas conventionals and it's uncomfortably light on the front end. Feels unsafe.
This is a awesome bus I want to be a bus driver when I get older
Cool
I’m on a bluebird rn
Love the bus! Do you know what font the new school bus sign is? Our 2020s have them and I like them better than the old ones. Much more visible
My county gets 12 new visions every year, our new ones always get delivered in July during summer break
Some serious chrome. And people, just don’t say it’s not an 2021, look at the registration. Also don’t say you work at so called “ICCE” we all know the bus developer is Navistar and IC bus. This bus wasn’t custom ordered, and has and runs on Diesel. The engine is Cummins. It has 260 HP. The headlights were replaced to be LED, if you couldn’t tell. In this video the bus had 1392 miles. The bus was built as of 9/19 (correct me if I’m wrong) And that basically sums up the video.
Is the bus equipped with: "No child left behind"?
Polk County, FL School Board got some 2021 IC CE buses. Saw them today parked in a lot.
i wonder how many batteries you have on that bus ,mine was a thomas 1999 and had 3 batteries and way less computers and no a.c., for the air leaks i had on my Thomas often was the tank bleeder and the supply air tank fittings that was way too stretched because of short air hose , on week ends normally i was loosing around 10 psi at the most
I'm just curious what about DEF tank our buses which are 2019-2020s
I notice all the IC's built new since this summer have thicker "school bus" lettering than before. (Subtle but noticeable). No steering wheel door controls?? Is this the new standard or an option? I remember a LIMITED amount of buses (06's and 07's) with manual handle doors with cruise control switches on steering wheel instead of door and amber/red controls. Undercoating is a plus; it's about time they did that!!! I think white roof buses should be STANDARD!!! I agree with stop sign wire reinforcements. Yeah, the cross arm magnets, not surprised they disappeared. More often than not, they didn't work, even early on. Amazing about the newer IC's holding their air so well. My company hasn't bought IC's in 5 years but Thomas. And you're right about Thomas. Some buses, even newer ones leak overnight. We even had a brand new one, just delivered, and I found one air gauge close to full and the other one well below 60 psi. About date oddities, it seems they skip a year when a bus is built after the start of a school year. A bus I trained on for my CDL was an 04 IC, though the date of manufacture was 12/2002. And the 06 year buses I mentioned earlier were actually built in late fall of 2004. So it's not unusual.
I think someone mentioned about the type of LED headlights you use.... could you put the type and where you purchase?
does this have a full width mudflap? i seen one of your other ces with them
That is one good bus
This is pretty cool I like in Maryland btw
Can you rev the engine on the bus?
Do you have a print out of the available options on the IC Bus?
Nice bus
i think our district got our new propane school bus called 194 and i think 2 more are coming
The only problem I have with Internationals is the windows don't latch tightly. I have a 2015 with more than a half dozen windows that won't stay closed all the way. I don't understand why that problem hasn't been addressed. They come new from the factory like that.
g bridgman IC switched to new windows in 2019. Haven’t had a single window fall yet.
@@SwannBus Good move! Finally! My windows fall with the bus just sitting in the parking lot!
Interesting fact you'll appreciate ...
Our school system has only ever used 'city transit buses" as our SCHOOL BUSES. As you can imagine... many rules out the window: no stop signs, front arm, and students aren't allowed to cross the street IN FRONT OF THE BUS! Check out Rome City Schools, Rome, Georgia.
RTD = Rome Transit Department.
The state & feds are forcing a change. Sooooo 36 buses are on order, drivers being hired, mechanics, bus shop, etc.
Gonna be making the transition in JAN 2020.
Chad Watson wow, maybe I should come down there to help!
238, the new 2020 one, has the brighter school bus sign.
Where can I find those leds you are running?
where are the speakers for the AMFM radio
How much is a not highly optioned bus? I ride STA buses and i just wonder a ball park of what they cost.
Order a Bluebird Vision. If you could do black doors, all LED, dual stop sign, and NY School bus sign I would love that.
Is this your bus or are you delivering it to a driver in the county?
Jerry Sylvester this is a trip/athletic bus so it’ll be driven by multiple drivers. Stay tuned to see “my” new bus!
Love the videos but may I ask a favor? When ever you get a new bus can you do a lamp check on them? Love to see the leds work. ;)
Everything Gaming I can make that happen
@@SwannBus thank you :)
I like your bus
I just don’t know where to start
My bus is a Schwinn 2018, 0 Pass., Lever brakes, Pedal Fuel.
WinDoge From TH-cam lol
Adam..Home come you let the bus drivers that work for you take the bus home that they drive during the school year?
This bus is butiful
What is your preference for brands, Blue bird, or Thomas!
CJ Phillips IC, Thomas, not a Bluebird guy....
Love school bus
Lucky mine has 1 stop arm and no LED lights but urs does
What brand are your LED headlights? How much are they?
Stephen Eyster Nineo, and they are on Amazon. Choose the ones with the smaller size so they fit inside the housing.
72 passenger and no side doors in NY would have a door on each side for emergency door
What Is the Int/Ext switch for on the dash?
Christopher it’s for the PA system, you can toggle from speaking inside to outside the bus.
Gotta love it, standard NO seat belts for the kids, but hey, it's got polished Alcoa wheels.
Toxic Venom the Alcoa’s aren’t standard, but seriously please review the NHSA and the FMCA statistics on school bus fatalities. Millions of people are safely transported on the yellow bus each year. People and lawmakers love to think that adding seat belts to buses is the easy fix, but it’s more complicated than that.
Hello there, it is indeed, always a pleasure to get a new video from you my friend.[We do not know each other, but I hope you will not mind if I call you my friend].Thank you for showing us this beautiful machine .
Are you going to do a driving video
How much do your buses generally cost we just ordered a new Thomas in my district and it was 92,000 last years new bus was a ic Ce
Ladarius Ryans you’re in the ballpoint for a regular bus. The bus in this video was more.
Love your content but a little confused are you keeping this bus or 8s it for another driver or is it just a spare bus because dont you already have your own bus
Brayden 26 as the owner, I don’t generally drive everyday. This bus will be used as a trip bus with multiple drivers. I’ve ordered a “spare” for myself which should be delivered soon.
@@SwannBus oh cool I had no clue you owned the bus company
Adam D do you ever plan to get bluebirds
Chuck Ashcraft probably not, my Bluebird dealer isn’t exactly the friendliest or most supportive to its buyers. This is likely keep my from buying.
Adam D I just got off one subbing for a ic ce
Hi from the other side of the Bay. The Somerset County area of Maryland.
SPCMarion3831/SPCBenfield3570 greetings, I hope to make it over there sometime soon!
@@SwannBus Over here all of our buses are privately owned and are mostly Bluebird Visions. We have like 3 CEs left.
Hey I'm from Worcester county
Shonn Williams howdy neighbor!
Which school do you drive for Adam?
Will they redesign for 2022??????????
John Schuster I’m thinking 2025
Hve you ever thought of strobe light on your bus fleet
All my buses have strobe lights, it’s state spec.
I like it. They just need to change a few things.
Still no drivers area from the International MV Series.
Telluride I know right, honesty not sure when they will change it. The MV drivers area will need to be approved by the federal government for school bus use. So, that could take a while.
@@SwannBus I was hoping our new ICs will have the new drivers area.
Adam D It’ll have to be altered anyway since there’s no left side door as it isn’t a cutaway cab
To get it ready for 2021
One thing I've always wondered about full sized International school buses: Why is the shift lever always crooked?
maybe to shift it easier?
More comfortable from the driver's position for it to be angled.
It’s adjustable to several degrees of position when you rotate it
Can you give us the info for the led headlights you are using
Yeah, definitely!! Would love to check out those LED conversion kits. By the way, do you have the same kit on your Thomas?
Looking for some that fit in the housing like yours
Yeah, that too but with Adam actually having a product that works and he use on a daily basis, I would like to try that one. I know there are tons on the market however every kit isn’t created equally. I don’t want to put in a cheaper light that last maybe 100 hours and then the bulb goes out which I read on many reviews of LED conversion kits.
That’s just like the cars
Where Is Your 2019 IC CE
Have you thought about getting a Blue Bird Vision
Landon Varner I have, but my Bluebird dealer is non-responsive. Sorry for their luck!!!
My school district just got propane visions and they are very quiet on the inside and have a very nice ride to them
Also know what's funny. I graduate in 2021
Does all the buses come with all wheel drive
Scott Vaden none of them come with AWD, but there are outfitters who can convert them for the very snowy states.
Our new ic sets for 2 hours and tank 1 down to 60, cross your fingers on the door switch door operation, mine is faulty i go to switch to door open and takes 8 to ten seconds to open and thats after it was supposedly fixed, bs. I wished they had choosen to go with cummins instead the PSI 8.8L man they are pooches on hills, plus driver slider window rattles like heck annoying, hey ic update that! Drives ppl nuts having to put up with that.
tmaq97 your air pressure issue could be caused by the difference between the 8.8 engine (belt driven compressor) and the Cummins (gear driven compressor). I’ll do some research to see if the unit on the PSI engines flow the same 18.7 cfms as the gear driven units. I haven’t purchased any gasoline ICs but would consider one as a spare.
@@SwannBus sorry for not clarifying the door switch is electric and door operation is electric motor controlled
tmaq97 copy that, I don’t do electric anymore:)
Dose it have the crash Mitigation system and ESC
Jray208 ! ESC yes, CMS was omitted
The 2018 models and up have them
Does is spelled wrong
11:50 Driver start your engines
I live in Maryland and I love busses
Kaeden Edwards nice
Me to but I do t live in Maryland I live in New York