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@Hi Lady Jersey, this was a round table interview. We didn't ask the question but were aware that the issue was of interest to a number of Sleepy Hollow fans many of who you can see have been happy to discuss it in the comments.
You are incorrect....whenever a WOC becomes the female lead and the object of affection from the white male lead, backlash (often racist) occurs from certain parts of the fandom e.g The Vampire Diaries, Twisted, Walking dead, The Flash, Teen Wolf, Glee etc etc. In all these instances the black prominent female was castigated and denigrated when they became the "love interest" from the white male lead. That's why Abbie Mills was so important. Hope you learned something today.
trueglitterdust Fact is, we don't even know what prompted her leaving the show. She could have wanted to leave. But automatically, it was assumed she was railroaded into leaving. The show's ratings skyrocketed and then dropped dramatically after about 6 episodes and continue to drop. I wasn't incorrect. I watched this interview and that's where they started.
At least he gets why fans were so upset. The writers *definitely* don't. Finale aside, it's a shame how much and how quickly the quality of the show deteriorated since the pilot. Abbie/Ichabod was literally the only thing holding me to that show so...
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Another great show gone, thank you so much Fox! Next time I see a show made by Fox I will never ever give it a try, once I find a show I really like and love-they just cancell it. If Netflix can pick up Lucifer (still mad about that part) I hope netflix can pick up Sleepy Hollow too.
I was shocked when they decided to kill Abby of ,whether it was her decision or that from the writers ,the chemistry between them was amazing and i loved every episode !i was really waiting for them to get in a relationship too but unfortunate that didnt happen, i took me a while to whatch season 4 because its just not the same and knowing that the show is not renewed for a fifth season bothers me even more smdh 🙁
@@citrinestone6884 That was the worst part of the whole thing. She got listed as being difficult as opposed to trying to stand up for herself, and trying to deal with her health issues.
I just decided to watch this and yeah I’m not sure why the hell they would kill off Abbie but after reading her story all I can say is Racist arseholes just unbelievable
I just watched it 2022 and after she died I checked here on TH-cam to see if she was coming back and they really killed her off so f sleepy hollow I will not finish it!
The problem with eliminating the Abigail Mills character is that there are *two witnesses,* that is the entire premise of the central plot. Both witnesses have to survive in order for the plot to prevent the prophecy of evil from being fulfilled, and the end of times from happening. And adhering to the plot, characters, and actors/actresses is a basic requirement of something like this working. Change any of it, and the entire show "jumps the shark". It was an excellent show, with great characters, and incredible plot, and good actors/actresses, with very good chemistry.
She didn’t just get sick. They tormented her from day 1. Threatened to replace her with the actress who played her sister after the pilot. Refused to give her time off to recover from illness even though they allowed Tom time for the same illness. Called her difficult and crazy. Leaked lies to tabloids. Go read the Hollywood Reporters excerpts from the new book about what producers did to this poor woman.
I still love this show. I love the way they integrate the supernatural with true past history events and people. I love how good always conquers evil. I love Crane's obsession with food. Lol. I could rewatch the entire series over and over.
Unless I hear it from her, on video actually saying she wanted out, for her own reason and not because she was ignore or given the proper respect such as inviting her to do the video commentary on the Season 2 dvd release, which she wasn't why I like to know the skinny on that one by her own voice.
As the other lead actor, Tom Mison could have objected to Nicole Beharie's firing & threatened to quit if they kill Nicole off the show. Instead, he's making excuses for the writers, the decision-makers, etc.
+Heyy Wow, people really do hate change. Characters can come and go we just have to move on. If you have that mentality then you would definitely not watch any shows especially Game of Thrones because each week a main character is killed off.
Heyyy Its Arri I know right Abby was strong, sexy, powerful, beautiful and smart and I do wish she was still on the show. But if you choose not to watch the show because the character you love is gone then you are missing out on a great show. And if more fans think like that then Fox will have no choice but to cancel the show due to low ratings. Grimm is ending so is Teen wolf. That leaves Supernatural and Sleepy Hollow. I do not about you but I do love a good supernatural show. In my opinion I think Nicole wanted to leave the show as it would not make sense to kill her off as she was a major character. It like killing of one of the Winchesters without the stars wanting to leave the show. Ps Sleepy Hollow has already started we are three episodes in.
Fox has a pattern of ruining/ killing off good dramas there was another show I can’t remember the name that came out around the same time about a Mexican gangster undercover in LAPD it had good ratings an a good story good acting but they pulled the plug after season one
Ashleyinwonderland Hahaha same. I started watching it 5 days ago and i'm at season 3 episode 3 and then i heard her character got killed off in the future. Immediatly stopped watching.
Just fyi, I read online that Nicole Beharie (Abby) made the choice to leave the show herself. She was not forced out. It was unfortunate, because that really affected the show. It's too bad things then went downhill....I really liked the early seasons. :(
She was treated inhumanely during filming of the second season. I would have left too. Fox is trash, the subsequent showrunners, producers and writers after season 1 are also trash too.
This video, is painful in hindsight, if only T WAS a monster of the week, instead of 4 yrs or until impeachment. Great insight and interview, just had to comment as the "dark underbelly " won this round.
If they ever reboot the series he she still play Ichabod crane bit this time maybe Have a season back during the war leading up to the final confrontation between crame and the horseman before he his put under the spell where he wakes up in our time and thats where season 2 will take place
It's really silly....the show was great because it had great actors, writers, humor, human relationships etc. It's entertainment. It was great. Even in season 4...it had a great story line.
Season 4 was crap compared with the other 3 seasons I do wish they had ended the show with Abby being like welcome to heaven crane or some how came back to life
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For the life of me, I’ll never understand their logic for killing this show by sidelining and then killing Abbie. They had a HIT and they *ruined* it! FOX reminds me of WWE’s Vince McMahon, they mistakenly believe that the network and the product itself is bigger than the actors, the art, and the fans. They are WRONG! They will ALWAYS be wrong. If you don’t respect all three, things won’t work. It’s a trinity. FOX has been a joke, disrespecting actors and killing great shows, for decades.
Strange to have the actor wear this cloth in such an important interview. Seeing him in this fashion on street I would think him for a homeless. Yes to write Abby out of the story was odd. From the beginning on she was my favorite charackter. But the race problem is there even if mostly broomed under the carpet/ the coutch as we phrase it here in Germany.
I just started watchin the show in 2019/2020 on Hulu n I love him as Ichobod but I as of yet Im not a believer in Abbie mayb thtll change I’m only a few eps in season 1 I wanna like her I jst em Luke warm so far n I dnt get why theyv included Katrina wen I kno the fans wuda wantd an ichabod/Abbie luv story n I’m sure it happns I luv the story of Sleepy Hollow n I luv all history Iv researchd the lesser key of Solomon n was surprised 2 hear it here hv also researchd moloch n a ton of the Bible so of course I luvd the show
Yeah but it was said that he didnt like from the beginning the idea of working with the Abby character. I wouldnt doubt if he played a part in why her character was terminated. Was way too many articles and commentary stating his demeanor towards Nicole.
Reading the comments I realise that people really do hate change. But here the thing in a show characters can come and go we just have to move on when they leave the show. If you have that mentality then you would definitely not watch any shows especially Game of Thrones. Because each week the writers kill off a main character.
You can't even begin to compare the two shows! Game of Thrones was adapted from the source material of incredibly well written novels. George RR Martin's books dictated to the producers which characters to kill off and it was done in such a way that it didn't disrupt the overall narrative of the story. Thrones also has an incredibly large cast and multiple storylines.
I grew up watching this show so when the 3rd season episode and nicole’s character was killed off i just stopped watching because i loved her so much so it hurt to see her killed off like that it didn’t even make sense to me 😢
Ok, anyone who has ever watched Law & Order for the last 10 years of the show has already seen a woman of color hold a prominent position in law enforcement. This is not new to the US. What was the point of that question? Even if he didn't know it, the interviewer must have known it.
IAmAGhost Why tf do people even care about a black woman having a leading role in a series? What the actual fuck. The obsession of the american people with race. I don't fucking get it. Just let it go like tf.
It amazes me how few people know that the actress left the show to do movies, specifically the upcoming remake of "Jacob's Ladder", so I'm pissed at her selfishness, not the network.
What would YOU do if you signed up a contract as the co-lead actress and then got sidelined all the time? The network was excluding her from the show project too, like dvd commentary. Why would anyone who respects themselves put up with so much B.S.? Someone among TPTB didn't want her there and made it clear, so she left. She's a great actress she deserves to work, not be on set the whole day just for two lines.
Hopefully by now you've erased this foolishness from your mind after reading the interview she did in June 2020 where she detailed her inhumane treatment behind the scenes filming season 2.
Mr. Internet Man. They were making it about her because it WAS about her from day one. She was the main lead and that is why they showed her a lot. Eventually they put the Abby character on the back burner and focused totally on Ichabod and Katrina, while practically sidelining Abby.
If you enjoyed this interview check out our Comic Con Panel with Tom Mison here ► th-cam.com/video/Cltwboc8w1o/w-d-xo.html and also Nicole Beharie at Comic Con here ► th-cam.com/video/PseTP2UCO2U/w-d-xo.html
Even your channel couldn't do a simple interview without making it about race. Shame on you.
@Hi Lady Jersey, this was a round table interview. We didn't ask the question but were aware that the issue was of interest to a number of Sleepy Hollow fans many of who you can see have been happy to discuss it in the comments.
You are incorrect....whenever a WOC becomes the female lead and the object of affection from the white male lead, backlash (often racist) occurs from certain parts of the fandom e.g The Vampire Diaries, Twisted, Walking dead, The Flash, Teen Wolf, Glee etc etc. In all these instances the black prominent female was castigated and denigrated when they became the "love interest" from the white male lead. That's why Abbie Mills was so important. Hope you learned something today.
Thank you for your honesty and asking about the racial component. Thank you.
trueglitterdust Fact is, we don't even know what prompted her leaving the show. She could have wanted to leave. But automatically, it was assumed she was railroaded into leaving. The show's ratings skyrocketed and then dropped dramatically after about 6 episodes and continue to drop. I wasn't incorrect. I watched this interview and that's where they started.
At least he gets why fans were so upset. The writers *definitely* don't.
Finale aside, it's a shame how much and how quickly the quality of the show deteriorated since the pilot. Abbie/Ichabod was literally the only thing holding me to that show so...
HelloGudbye93 same lol
True. I felt like they added to much to quick.
Yeah man, I just finished season for, I miss abby mills
And one of them works on star trek
Yea i was pretty pissed when she left. Both the characters made the show for me; not just one. 😡
Yea it was the chemistry
THEY SHOULD REVIVE THE SERIES AND BRING ABBIE BACK!!! 😣😣😣
Here a link if you want to help
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and Ichabod
Sadly, she was basically fired due to how she was treated when she got sick. Google the back story people. Google the back story.
My main reason for watching season 4 was to see if Nicole Beharie (Abigail Mills) would come back. She didn't.
Cool. Up to epi 4, Season 4 hoping for the same thing. I won't hold my breath.
Another great show gone, thank you so much Fox! Next time I see a show made by Fox I will never ever give it a try, once I find a show I really like and love-they just cancell it. If Netflix can pick up Lucifer (still mad about that part) I hope netflix can pick up Sleepy Hollow too.
Let's start a petition for Netflix to bring it back
Or maybe the CW!
Stay away from anything Fox related!
Same thing happened with Lucifer released on FOX but picked up by Netflix for another 2 seasons
Who came here to listen to ichabod speak
I was shocked when they decided to kill Abby of ,whether it was her decision or that from the writers ,the chemistry between them was amazing and i loved every episode !i was really waiting for them to get in a relationship too but unfortunate that didnt happen, i took me a while to whatch season 4 because its just not the same and knowing that the show is not renewed for a fifth season bothers me even more smdh 🙁
Naomi CS look it up. She was black balled 😭
@@citrinestone6884 That was the worst part of the whole thing. She got listed as being difficult as opposed to trying to stand up for herself, and trying to deal with her health issues.
He cut his hair (for her) because he didn't give a shit about the show anymore and decided to punish them.... if so, he's a good guy.
He wore wigs on the show and so did Abbey.
I’m always nervous to watch a Fox show bc they alwys do this or cancel shit way 2 early
I just decided to watch this and yeah I’m not sure why the hell they would kill off Abbie but after reading her story all I can say is Racist arseholes just unbelievable
She had an auto immune disease so she had to leave the show
I just watched it 2022 and after she died I checked here on TH-cam to see if she was coming back and they really killed her off so f sleepy hollow I will not finish it!
The problem with eliminating the Abigail Mills character is that there are *two witnesses,* that is the entire premise of the central plot. Both witnesses have to survive in order for the plot to prevent the prophecy of evil from being fulfilled, and the end of times from happening.
And adhering to the plot, characters, and actors/actresses is a basic requirement of something like this working. Change any of it, and the entire show "jumps the shark".
It was an excellent show, with great characters, and incredible plot, and good actors/actresses, with very good chemistry.
It is really sad that Nicole got sick and had to leave. She talks about this later after she got better.
She didn’t just get sick. They tormented her from day 1. Threatened to replace her with the actress who played her sister after the pilot. Refused to give her time off to recover from illness even though they allowed Tom time for the same illness. Called her difficult and crazy. Leaked lies to tabloids. Go read the Hollywood Reporters excerpts from the new book about what producers did to this poor woman.
I still love this show. I love the way they integrate the supernatural with true past history events and people. I love how good always conquers evil. I love Crane's obsession with food. Lol. I could rewatch the entire series over and over.
Unless I hear it from her, on video actually saying she wanted out, for her own reason and not because she was ignore or given the proper respect such as inviting her to do the video commentary on the Season 2 dvd release, which she wasn't why I like to know the skinny on that one by her own voice.
Oh.Thats why it was cancellled
I loved the show itself as I binged watched the entire series twice. Was saddened to hear about the off screen drama.
If abbie was never killed off the show could of gone for many more seasons
I believe if she was never killed off they would of eventually got together
As the other lead actor, Tom Mison could have objected to Nicole Beharie's firing & threatened to quit if they kill Nicole off the show. Instead, he's making excuses for the writers, the decision-makers, etc.
The woman voluntarily left but yeah let's put all the blame on her co star who had no involvement whatsoever 🙄
He’s so cute wtf
Such a bad decision!!!!! Was not the same without Abbie!!!!!
She finally spoke out about her departure to Madame noire. It was due to her autoimmune disease.
if abby isnt returning im not watching the show
Jenny Mills is still in the show i love her character in the show
+Heyy
Wow, people really do hate change. Characters can come and go we just have to move on. If you have that mentality then you would definitely not watch any shows especially Game of Thrones because each week a main character is killed off.
me 2 but its just not the same. im really sad shes not returing. I was legit crying
Heyyy Its Arri
I know right Abby was strong, sexy, powerful, beautiful and smart and I do wish she was still on the show.
But if you choose not to watch the show because the character you love is gone then you are missing out on a great show. And if more fans think like that then Fox will have no choice but to cancel the show due to low ratings. Grimm is ending so is Teen wolf. That leaves Supernatural and Sleepy Hollow. I do not about you but I do love a good supernatural show.
In my opinion I think Nicole wanted to leave the show as it would not make sense to kill her off as she was a major character. It like killing of one of the Winchesters without the stars wanting to leave the show.
Ps
Sleepy Hollow has already started we are three episodes in.
ido
He is adorable
2022 and just saw the first season on 7plus catchup. Glad there are more seasons but they only loaded the first one up!
Fox has a pattern of ruining/ killing off good dramas there was another show I can’t remember the name that came out around the same time about a Mexican gangster undercover in LAPD it had good ratings an a good story good acting but they pulled the plug after season one
i love the show but i am not watchin it any more
All i see is ichabod talking about ichabod because the way he speaks is so similar as in the show
I like ,his hair long ,nicer ,I wish abby would come back ,Love for two of them to get together like boyfriend and girlfriend ...so miss abby
I started watching this today nonstop. I was on episode 6 but now I won't be watching, I absolutely hate when shows kill off main characters.
Ashleyinwonderland Hahaha same. I started watching it 5 days ago and i'm at season 3 episode 3 and then i heard her character got killed off in the future. Immediatly stopped watching.
Only Game of Thrones can do it right
Killing of major characters in a show kills the desire in many people to rewatch the show, because they know the death is coming.
Just fyi, I read online that Nicole Beharie (Abby) made the choice to leave the show herself. She was not forced out. It was unfortunate, because that really affected the show. It's too bad things then went downhill....I really liked the early seasons. :(
She was treated inhumanely during filming of the second season. I would have left too. Fox is trash, the subsequent showrunners, producers and writers after season 1 are also trash too.
@@eskayh7734 Inhumanely?! What happened?
@@eventhorizon12 she had an illness that she was dealing with and the producers didn't care
I will not watch this show anymore, bcuz of Abby's demise Bad Decision, Very Bad!!
Regardless of what happened to Beharie. I know I will not watch that show ever again
That's to bad for you. I've continued to watch it and the new season has been really great.
+Kimberly Reese. maybe I. could watch it with you
Kimberly Reese Hell nah. It's never been the same. Immediatly stopped watching when i heard Nicole got killed off.
This video, is painful in hindsight, if only T WAS a monster of the week, instead of 4 yrs or until impeachment. Great insight and interview, just had to comment as the "dark underbelly " won this round.
i would realy like to see him as dr who i think he would be awsome!
When you take one you lose both 🤦
I miss the show
I stop watching after they killed off Nicole Beharie
I hear quiet birds and bongs on the background very distracting, great interview tho! Cant wait for more SH
They’re camera sounds.
Interview him again and ask how he feels lol
If they ever reboot the series he she still play Ichabod crane bit this time maybe Have a season back during the war leading up to the final confrontation between crame and the horseman before he his put under the spell where he wakes up in our time and thats where season 2 will take place
It's really silly....the show was great because it had great actors, writers, humor, human relationships etc. It's entertainment. It was great. Even in season 4...it had a great story line.
U just sit there and say it was a decision they make it was a stupid one it not the same since abby left
Wish it would come back
At least the kraken
am not watching this show ever again
Season 4 was crap compared with the other 3 seasons I do wish they had ended the show with Abby being like welcome to heaven crane or some how came back to life
For the life of me, I’ll never understand their logic for killing this show by sidelining and then killing Abbie. They had a HIT and they *ruined* it! FOX reminds me of WWE’s Vince McMahon, they mistakenly believe that the network and the product itself is bigger than the actors, the art, and the fans. They are WRONG! They will ALWAYS be wrong. If you don’t respect all three, things won’t work. It’s a trinity. FOX has been a joke, disrespecting actors and killing great shows, for decades.
Strange to have the actor wear this cloth in such an important interview. Seeing him in this fashion on street I would think him for a homeless. Yes to write Abby out of the story was odd. From the beginning on she was my favorite charackter. But the race problem is there even if mostly broomed under the carpet/ the coutch as we phrase it here in Germany.
The show was racist! Glad it was cancelled!
I just started watchin the show in 2019/2020 on Hulu n I love him as Ichobod but I as of yet Im not a believer in Abbie mayb thtll change I’m only a few eps in season 1 I wanna like her I jst em Luke warm so far n I dnt get why theyv included Katrina wen I kno the fans wuda wantd an ichabod/Abbie luv story n I’m sure it happns I luv the story of Sleepy Hollow n I luv all history Iv researchd the lesser key of Solomon n was surprised 2 hear it here hv also researchd moloch n a ton of the Bible so of course I luvd the show
Nicely
Ugh that camera sounds are annoying
Didn't Sleepy Hollow go off the air soon after Nicole Beharie was fired? Karma...
Keep in mind DNA says. We are all the same species homo sapiens from africa
Yeah but it was said that he didnt like from the beginning the idea of working with the Abby character. I wouldnt doubt if he played a part in why her character was terminated. Was way too many articles and commentary stating his demeanor towards Nicole.
Sem a abbie não presta não gostei porque ela saio 😒
Reading the comments I realise that people really do hate change.
But here the thing in a show characters can come and go we just have to move on when they leave the show. If you have that mentality then you would definitely not watch any shows especially Game of Thrones. Because each week the writers kill off a main character.
You can't even begin to compare the two shows! Game of Thrones was adapted from the source material of incredibly well written novels. George RR Martin's books dictated to the producers which characters to kill off and it was done in such a way that it didn't disrupt the overall narrative of the story. Thrones also has an incredibly large cast and multiple storylines.
We need to stop talking about race. Because we are all the same race. Evolution is what changes our appearances to fit our environment.
I wonder what Sydney Poitier would say about this??
they could have gotten another person to play Abby at least geesh
L Nobody could ever replace her. Ever.
Is this show finally over?
I grew up watching this show so when the 3rd season episode and nicole’s character was killed off i just stopped watching because i loved her so much so it hurt to see her killed off like that it didn’t even make sense to me 😢
And ps why did you had to cut your hair off grow it back on please quick!lol
I know, right! He's much sexier with longer hair.
The long hair was a wig!
He cut it because he assumed the show would be cancelled after the third season.
Ok, anyone who has ever watched Law & Order for the last 10 years of the show has already seen a woman of color hold a prominent position in law enforcement. This is not new to the US. What was the point of that question? Even if he didn't know it, the interviewer must have known it.
law enforcement was not what made her special. she was a woman of color who played in a Horror genre. Now that is something that you don't see.
IAmAGhost
Stick to being a ghost.
IAmAGhost Why tf do people even care about a black woman having a leading role in a series? What the actual fuck. The obsession of the american people with race. I don't fucking get it. Just let it go like tf.
@@fxckitswayne_ Because if there wasn't an obsession with it, it would not happen!
It amazes me how few people know that the actress left the show to do movies, specifically the upcoming remake of "Jacob's Ladder", so I'm pissed at her selfishness, not the network.
That's not why she left!
What would YOU do if you signed up a contract as the co-lead actress and then got sidelined all the time? The network was excluding her from the show project too, like dvd commentary. Why would anyone who respects themselves put up with so much B.S.? Someone among TPTB didn't want her there and made it clear, so she left. She's a great actress she deserves to work, not be on set the whole day just for two lines.
Hopefully by now you've erased this foolishness from your mind after reading the interview she did in June 2020 where she detailed her inhumane treatment behind the scenes filming season 2.
@@asukachan07 Exactly!!! 👏👏
I feel the show is much better without Abbie. They were making it too much about her. I really like this new season and how it focuses more on Tom.
Mr. Internet Man Bullshit
Mr. Internet Man oh yeah years later look now the show is cancelled 😂
@@Deking24 A damn shame indeed.
Mr. Internet Man. They were making it about her because it WAS about her from day one. She was the main lead and that is why they showed her a lot. Eventually they put the Abby character on the back burner and focused totally on Ichabod and Katrina, while practically sidelining Abby.
@@le2800 no one asked
The racial diversity of the show, woow who gives a shit. The show has jumped all the sharks ever.