This doesn't surprise me. I work at Chipotle (because it was my only option, I've applied and/or interviewed for hundreds of jobs) people will pile on extra meat, dairy, oily white rice, white flour and oil tortillas and super salty salsa and ask for a "sprinkle" of lettuce for "health" (actual words) to justify it
This reminds me of work done by T. Colin Campbell about the influence of giant food corporations on our consumption of convenience foods. We have been conditioned to accept that milk and meat are good for us.
My boyfriend always wants greasy food lately since I've started cooking without oil. I think he was lacking fats so I've been adding more healthy fats to his dinner and it's been helping! For example, I made a maple tahini sauce for our grain bowl the other night, I didn't use any oils and he didn't want anything greasy the next day!
That's so interesting! I used to eat junk and my wife always promoted health food in my house. Now that I am WFPB, she is fine with them eating all the junk they want and she ate a lot of junk at first too!
@@joephillips5594 People go through stages...the best thing I ever did was become a fundamentalist christian, the best thing I ever did was leave the Christian religion, the best thing I ever did was become a vegan, the best thing I ever did was leaving the vegan cult etc.
I think the reason calorie counts dont help is because many companies make calorie reading very confusing calories per half a serving etc, lack of education on calories also causes this. When we implement something useful then companies will look for ways to undermine it.
I was gonna endulge a bit today in some plant based snacks, but after seeing this video I feel like buying green leafy vegetables and a big bag of carrots. This video was very interesting and, pun intended: food for thought. Thank you, Dr. G! 😀
The hypothesis that people choose the unhealthiest option more when additionally shown a healthy option because they think they will be healthier “tomorrow” doesn’t make commonsense to me. More likely they are just so disgusted by the thought of eating the healthy option that they just run for the unhealthiest hills.
the problem is not the choices people take, but getting away with it. this whole medical industry live of it. give people all the choice but also give them all the consequences, no more medical intervention for you, deal with the fallout yourself.
Insulin resistance and high blood pressure the most two health scams of this era because they're side effects of a bad lifestyle, as you said people shouldn't feel like they can eat whatever they like because there is a medicine for every health issue , in reality that's mirage and a lot of diseases the modern med doesn't have a cure for them but the medical sector want to play the God role till the end.
Hey dr.gregor, thanks for all the great content! Any chance you could make a video on books and courses we could take to read and understand nutrition studies ourselves?
(Unrelated to the videos topic) In POTS the NIH (or paper on the NIH recomend gradually increasing salt intake to ten grams per day.) Is it possible this will have more positive effect with hypovolemic POTS because of the lower blood pressure associated with it?
I'm sure its the psychology thing mostly, but veggie options are usually neglected by the restaurant too. If I try the healthy option and its a wilty soggy flavorless poorly crafted bowl of sad, I'm not going to keep trying it.
2 countries with many vegans! Israel & Netherlands real milk is regulated and payed by the gov but soy not, so when you ask for coffee with soy/ or any other non dairy milk you must add something equal to a $1...
I feel like if you focused the messaging on how much you can indulge with low calorie, nutrient dense foods, instead of how good they are for you, people might be more inclined to swing in that direction. Let's say there were a whole food, plant based fast-casual restaurant opening up. Places like that tend to lean on New Age, cultish language like "Be your best self" and they make sure to sprinkle in some choice words with alternative medicine connotations like "nourishing", or grab feminists with "goddess" messaging, and they'll probably have a manifesto about having a healthy body and a healthy soul. Nobody wants that. Not even granola girls want that. But what if they went in guns blazing with a loud and aggressive ad campaign of people stuffing their faces with veggie wraps literally the size of an infant? The voiceover would literally yell at the viewer, "IT'S AS BIG AS A BABY! Get that food-baby in you!" Let's make it even better. Toss in a jump cut to someone nibbling on a pretty typical but comparatively tiny cheeseburger (albeit one that's way too big calorie-wise). The choice of actors would also be subtly different. The clothing, cleanliness, and apparent socioeconomic status between the veggie wrap actors and the cheeseburger actors would be exactly the same. Both sides are on same rung of the social ladder. However, the veggie group would be lively, happy, cheeks bulging with food, but most importantly, lean and fit with a carotenoid glow, whereas the burger group would look disappointed by their meager meal, and also be overweight, pallid, and have skin conditions like acne, but only just so. It would have to be a small enough difference that nobody could accuse the restaurant of fat shaming, but a big enough difference that it would be picked up subconsciously. To further cinch the deal, the wraps would come in all kinds of bold and festive colors, like a screaming red wrap to denote that it's spicy, or a spirulina teal for one that has fruit in it, or maybe one that's a pale ivory color but has shiso leaves baked into it like a fabric print for an East Asian inspired wrap, and so on. Whereas the burger would be an ordinary drab brown; not at all a lie, but purposefully unflattering. People love bright colors, especially children and stoners, the two groups that absolutely cannot resist fast food. And the messaging itself would not be subtle at all. It's okay, indulge, pig out, we're not going to judge. We're here to fill your belly. The item conspicuously missing from that messaging is how healthy this food is.
This is great and yes boast how much more one could eat of that better food!!! I have thought the commercials really influence people too. Focusing on eating so much more quantity with a nutritional sauce option would be a winner I think.
@@jackschitt6235 i mean all of the above. The likely scenario is that you didn't see the person correctly your your memory is imperfect (everyone's is!)
The hypothesis that people choose the unhealthiest option more when additionally shown a healthy option because they think they will be healthier “tomorrow” doesn’t make commonsense to me. More likely they are just so disgusted by the thought of eating the healthy option that they just run for the unhealthiest hills.
I think it's an underlying fear of missing out, a sense of deprivation or panic at the idea of someone explicitly taking something away that is the real issue. It's like every healthy option is a reminder that at some point in time, for some reason or another, you could be without those things, so you better get it while the getting is good. That's how I used to be, anyway, except what I was getting was killing me. The only thing that changed my mind was a health scare and I've seen countless people shrug off far worse than what I experienced so they could keep on with their habits. I'm not sure what kind of generalized messaging can be effective in these cases.
This doesn't surprise me. I work at Chipotle (because it was my only option, I've applied and/or interviewed for hundreds of jobs) people will pile on extra meat, dairy, oily white rice, white flour and oil tortillas and super salty salsa and ask for a "sprinkle" of lettuce for "health" (actual words) to justify it
This reminds me of work done by T. Colin Campbell about the influence of giant food corporations on our consumption of convenience foods. We have been conditioned to accept that milk and meat are good for us.
Ahhh! This explains why the healthier I eat the worse my husband eats.
My boyfriend always wants greasy food lately since I've started cooking without oil. I think he was lacking fats so I've been adding more healthy fats to his dinner and it's been helping! For example, I made a maple tahini sauce for our grain bowl the other night, I didn't use any oils and he didn't want anything greasy the next day!
That's so interesting! I used to eat junk and my wife always promoted health food in my house. Now that I am WFPB, she is fine with them eating all the junk they want and she ate a lot of junk at first too!
@@lizpimentel2566 Have you told him yet that you've been putting penis enlargement supplements in his food?
@@joephillips5594 People go through stages...the best thing I ever did was become a fundamentalist christian, the best thing I ever did was leave the Christian religion, the best thing I ever did was become a vegan, the best thing I ever did was leaving the vegan cult etc.
I think the reason calorie counts dont help is because many companies make calorie reading very confusing calories per half a serving etc, lack of education on calories also causes this. When we implement something useful then companies will look for ways to undermine it.
I literally just read this in How Note To Diet yesterday!
All of this makes sense. Thank you for this podcast
"But who's got time for that?...I do!" 🤣
I always enjoy hearing it
Hahaha
Hehehehe he so fun
I was gonna endulge a bit today in some plant based snacks, but after seeing this video I feel like buying green leafy vegetables and a big bag of carrots. This video was very interesting and, pun intended: food for thought. Thank you, Dr. G! 😀
The hypothesis that people choose the unhealthiest option more when additionally shown a healthy option because they think they will be healthier “tomorrow” doesn’t make commonsense to me. More likely they are just so disgusted by the thought of eating the healthy option that they just run for the unhealthiest hills.
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the problem is not the choices people take, but getting away with it. this whole medical industry live of it.
give people all the choice but also give them all the consequences, no more medical intervention for you, deal with the fallout yourself.
Insulin resistance and high blood pressure the most two health scams of this era because they're side effects of a bad lifestyle, as you said people shouldn't feel like they can eat whatever they like because there is a medicine for every health issue , in reality that's mirage and a lot of diseases the modern med doesn't have a cure for them but the medical sector want to play the God role till the end.
Dr. Greger you teach me so much!
Amazing..Greetings from Denmark..👍
Hey dr.gregor, thanks for all the great content! Any chance you could make a video on books and courses we could take to read and understand nutrition studies ourselves?
Read his book. How Not to Die.
I bet a lot of people watching this aren’t so fooled buy this phenomenon. I know try to choose the healthier choice whenever I can.
Very interesting human behaviour
(Unrelated to the videos topic)
In POTS the NIH (or paper on the NIH recomend gradually increasing salt intake to ten grams per day.) Is it possible this will have more positive effect with hypovolemic POTS because of the lower blood pressure associated with it?
I'm sure its the psychology thing mostly, but veggie options are usually neglected by the restaurant too.
If I try the healthy option and its a wilty soggy flavorless poorly crafted bowl of sad, I'm not going to keep trying it.
If you asked for vegan meals they will look at you as if you're an alien.
So true. I have seen I sabotage myself with he presumption I have been healthier (as a form of reward) or will be in the future.
Interesting and worth being conscious about.
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Also the vegan burger in the Netherlands is half the size... really tiny.... and costs more, vegan option always costs more in junk places
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2 countries with many vegans! Israel & Netherlands real milk is regulated and payed by the gov but soy not, so when you ask for coffee with soy/ or any other non dairy milk you must add something equal to a $1...
"Le McDonald's," sounds really fancy!
I'm confused about how a GMO Soyburger is considered a healthy option?
I feel like if you focused the messaging on how much you can indulge with low calorie, nutrient dense foods, instead of how good they are for you, people might be more inclined to swing in that direction.
Let's say there were a whole food, plant based fast-casual restaurant opening up. Places like that tend to lean on New Age, cultish language like "Be your best self" and they make sure to sprinkle in some choice words with alternative medicine connotations like "nourishing", or grab feminists with "goddess" messaging, and they'll probably have a manifesto about having a healthy body and a healthy soul. Nobody wants that. Not even granola girls want that.
But what if they went in guns blazing with a loud and aggressive ad campaign of people stuffing their faces with veggie wraps literally the size of an infant? The voiceover would literally yell at the viewer, "IT'S AS BIG AS A BABY! Get that food-baby in you!" Let's make it even better. Toss in a jump cut to someone nibbling on a pretty typical but comparatively tiny cheeseburger (albeit one that's way too big calorie-wise).
The choice of actors would also be subtly different. The clothing, cleanliness, and apparent socioeconomic status between the veggie wrap actors and the cheeseburger actors would be exactly the same. Both sides are on same rung of the social ladder. However, the veggie group would be lively, happy, cheeks bulging with food, but most importantly, lean and fit with a carotenoid glow, whereas the burger group would look disappointed by their meager meal, and also be overweight, pallid, and have skin conditions like acne, but only just so. It would have to be a small enough difference that nobody could accuse the restaurant of fat shaming, but a big enough difference that it would be picked up subconsciously.
To further cinch the deal, the wraps would come in all kinds of bold and festive colors, like a screaming red wrap to denote that it's spicy, or a spirulina teal for one that has fruit in it, or maybe one that's a pale ivory color but has shiso leaves baked into it like a fabric print for an East Asian inspired wrap, and so on. Whereas the burger would be an ordinary drab brown; not at all a lie, but purposefully unflattering. People love bright colors, especially children and stoners, the two groups that absolutely cannot resist fast food.
And the messaging itself would not be subtle at all. It's okay, indulge, pig out, we're not going to judge. We're here to fill your belly. The item conspicuously missing from that messaging is how healthy this food is.
This is great and yes boast how much more one could eat of that better food!!! I have thought the commercials really influence people too. Focusing on eating so much more quantity with a nutritional sauce option would be a winner I think.
So the side salad is 'healthier' than the baked potato? I wonder what Dr. McDougall would have to say about this?
glad I overindulged last night
Unless this guy has an identical twin I'm pretty sure I saw him at the Outback Steakhouse over the weekend enjoying a big 🥩 🥩 steak!
Seems awfully unlikely
@@Greentrees60 That this guy was having a steak or that he has an identical twin or both?
@@jackschitt6235 i mean all of the above. The likely scenario is that you didn't see the person correctly your your memory is imperfect (everyone's is!)
@@Greentrees60 He was wearing dark glasses and a hat but as soon as I heard him speak I knew it was him!
You must like fishing? You troll so well.
The hypothesis that people choose the unhealthiest option more when additionally shown a healthy option because they think they will be healthier “tomorrow” doesn’t make commonsense to me. More likely they are just so disgusted by the thought of eating the healthy option that they just run for the unhealthiest hills.
I think it's an underlying fear of missing out, a sense of deprivation or panic at the idea of someone explicitly taking something away that is the real issue. It's like every healthy option is a reminder that at some point in time, for some reason or another, you could be without those things, so you better get it while the getting is good. That's how I used to be, anyway, except what I was getting was killing me. The only thing that changed my mind was a health scare and I've seen countless people shrug off far worse than what I experienced so they could keep on with their habits. I'm not sure what kind of generalized messaging can be effective in these cases.