Is The Submerged Sub Paragon Actually Good Now? (BTD6)

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  • @josh-gu6zi
    @josh-gu6zi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +251

    The decamo is extremely useful for the extremely difficult to pop, regrow fortified camo red bloon.

    • @mrsquid8034
      @mrsquid8034 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      AH!

    • @clutteryguy9747
      @clutteryguy9747 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      True

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      I know this is satire, but the decamo is actually a negative, seeing how it removes the +damage to camo bloons from Ninja paragon as well as all other towers that deal extra damage to camos

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@tpfoxCastro Super Monkey and Ace come to mind

    • @BowlofColdSoup
      @BowlofColdSoup 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@tpfoxCastro Decamo is only good when used with Blooncineration, given you're not using it for the Decamo properties, but the fortification stripping... sadly, there is no tower in game that strips the fortified status while keeping camo.

  • @TrippyTulipz493
    @TrippyTulipz493 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +385

    If Ninjakiwi really insists on disarming the sub paragon for 10 WHOLE SECONDS during the nuke ability (which I still heavily disagree with), how about we compromise a little? Instead of completely disarming the sub for 10 seconds, it instead forcefully submerges the paragon for 10 seconds while it launches the nuke, and it cannot emerge for the duration. After the 10 seconds, the sub paragon will re-emerge if it wasn't already submerged. This won't completely disable the tower and still allows it to use its submerged radiation attack. While it still effectively disarms the sub paragon, it won't be as significant of a risk because it is able to at the very least deal some chip damage around the tower and buff nearby towers while it fires the nuke. I feel like this is a flavourful addition to the game that sort of makes sense. It's like the sub is 'acquiring' its target using the radiation sonar attack while it launches the nuke. What do you guys think?

    • @thenarwhalmage
      @thenarwhalmage 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +44

      I kind of assumed that that was how it worked already before I just tested it. It makes zero sense how it works currently.

    • @anthre4366
      @anthre4366 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Up

    • @fergalhennessy775
      @fergalhennessy775 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      trvthnvke

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think this would've made total sense and been the perfect change...Before they buffed the radiation damage.
      I still think this is a great idea, by maybe it's a little too much now? If they nerd the radiation damage just a little, I think it would still work.

    • @TrippyTulipz493
      @TrippyTulipz493 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @tpfoxCastro I see where you're coming from but, this is a paragon we're talking about. Even with the new buffed radiation attack, the 10 second main attack itself is still significantly reducing it's total dps by many magnitudes, even with the buff taken into account, making it the weakest paragon by far for those 10 seconds. If Ninjakiwi really insists on disarming the sub, either reduce the duration OR at the very least let it use its alternate, vastly inferior attack mode to compensate for the massive disarm.

  • @Felix-sl2hw
    @Felix-sl2hw 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Damn, the sub is still bugged to have the radiation attack even when unsubmerged (there's no animation but it still deals damage). You can see the rainbow bloons at 15:40 getting popped by this invisible attack. Not sure why this hasn't been fixed, sub paragon has been out for the better part of a year now...

    • @MackanRules
      @MackanRules  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Damn you are right! I didn't even know about this lol

  • @foxwhistle
    @foxwhistle 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    You should have tested the Paragon buff with Submarines, as thats why you would keep the Paragon submerged in the first place.

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Also for the ability cooldown reduction

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      imagine if he had a dozen middle path subs to bombard the boss

    • @maudley
      @maudley 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@ham_the_spam4423 I think bottom path may be the better dps

  • @btdoverclock
    @btdoverclock 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The most useful part of submerged sub paragon is to not steal pops while pop farming for other paragons. Excellent tier 4 choice for most boss events.

  • @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies
    @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    9:26 at it again I see, Mackan. Out of all the months you could do this in it just HAD to be november, huh?

    • @Supersonic6427
      @Supersonic6427 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      we need a complitation of Mackan having orgasms to BTD6

  • @classical3854
    @classical3854 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    honestly, i wouldn't mind if they just made the sub do less damage as long as they give it more support abilities. a support paragon would be a really cool game changer to the game

    • @classical3854
      @classical3854 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      like the sub HAS to be submerged but it gives boosts to paragons and other towers in it's range. idk, just food for thought

  • @FRIDAY-lt3ei
    @FRIDAY-lt3ei 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I think the sub paragon should be better in submerged alone, but better submerged when you have other paragons/VTSG on screen. Buff should def be map wide though

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I guess you meant unsubmerged for the first sentence?
      Also, I think now it being global is fine, but I feel that when every tower has a paragon, global cooldown reduction will be way too much

  • @PintFlinger
    @PintFlinger 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Submerged NSC only has one job, not to steal pops from Flying Fortress. And they made it worse at doing that. gj Ninja Kiwi

  • @ryanstephenaninon391
    @ryanstephenaninon391 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    7:00 you placed ability subs outside the energizer, then placed non-ability subs inside. that's so dissatisfying

  • @Timmothy_plays
    @Timmothy_plays 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish the Sub Paragon was better, because why make it over the Ace Paragon or Buccaneer Paragon? I have some ideas that might make it stick out~
    Submerged mode should keep with the idea of the top path's Advanced Intel by having Monkey Villages gain the Sub Paragon's Radar and Effects as long as the Sub Paragon is Submerged.
    And also most importantly, allow it to keep attacking when using the ability! or if they insist on keeping the 10 seconds of no attacking, then a compromise could be to give it a passive synergy by having certain tier 5 big boom towers to leave puddles of fallout from their attacks during that 10 seconds.
    These are: Top Path Mortar Monkey "The Biggest One" / Middle Path Monkey Ace "Tsar Bomba" / Middle Path Dartling Gunner "M.A.D"

  • @murphyduck
    @murphyduck 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You should try Town Center with only water towers, and maybe an Abyssal Lord

  • @Itouchnograss
    @Itouchnograss 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like to make submerged good they have to give the unsumberged horrible pierce, like its really good against bads and only one bad. But like when you send it like a billion ZOMGS, submerged is useful

  • @sydneycox4769
    @sydneycox4769 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Literally the only purpose of submerging it is to support it just has never crossed my mind why would they even bother with the damage of the submerged attack because having the thing unsubmerged is just better in terms of damage

  • @bartoclub69
    @bartoclub69 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    i wanna submerge under mackan's toilet bowl

    • @setredid
      @setredid 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Dear God...

    • @the_random12345
      @the_random12345 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      what

    • @Typingram
      @Typingram 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      What is wrong with you

  • @kalleakergren37
    @kalleakergren37 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In which order do you place farms?

  • @kvetaktroll5568
    @kvetaktroll5568 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    10:24 why are the first strikes at the bottom attacking themselves?

    • @ham_the_spam4423
      @ham_the_spam4423 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      the missiles land right back down on top of the launching sub if they lose their target

    • @kvetaktroll5568
      @kvetaktroll5568 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ham_the_spam4423 oh... I didn't know that... NK should make the missiles attack like Rosalia lvl.3 ability

  • @gustavo7246
    @gustavo7246 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Why didn’t you cross path the reactor for t1?

    • @maudley
      @maudley 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was also wondering this, and then saw that he did later do it, but he didn't realize that they changed it so 401 did all that 402 did while submerged for cheaper.

  • @Sulfuricsoul-v6p
    @Sulfuricsoul-v6p วันที่ผ่านมา

    bros voice is majestic

  • @pietertje1176
    @pietertje1176 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Still always forget it exists

    • @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies
      @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I only remembered it AFTER the last Vortex event and now we're not getting another Vortex event for me to test it against that boss.

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookiesBoss Challenge.

  • @robertironboy4121
    @robertironboy4121 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Longer videos?

  • @mr_monkeyy2137
    @mr_monkeyy2137 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    MonkeRules

  • @arckosX
    @arckosX 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this video RULES

  • @gen8901
    @gen8901 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I don’t know if they did anything about it since release, but for real buff the Hero support part as well……….

    • @smokey_mk2
      @smokey_mk2 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      They did change it its rlly rlly good with adora

    • @tpfoxCastro
      @tpfoxCastro 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They changed it already, it's much better

    • @gen8901
      @gen8901 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@smokey_mk2Didn’t even realize lmao. Thanks for the info!

    • @gen8901
      @gen8901 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tpfoxCastroThank you :)

  • @brawlstar1748
    @brawlstar1748 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    No Lord of the Abyss to place more subs?

  • @ThatGuyDylanFR
    @ThatGuyDylanFR 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just love your videos.

  • @Spyingcow
    @Spyingcow 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Heter du Marcus eller Markus? Eller nåt helt annat? Med tanke på ”Mackan” lol

    • @Spyingcow
      @Spyingcow 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Älskar dina videos förresten 🫶

  • @dominikseidens6744
    @dominikseidens6744 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:09 187🇩🇪

  • @OrelGaming.
    @OrelGaming. 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    w

  • @_wargame_
    @_wargame_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    no views in 20 seconds ? Damn...

    • @HerbTheBirb1
      @HerbTheBirb1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      😑

    • @gen8901
      @gen8901 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Cringe alarm

    • @lordexxotik
      @lordexxotik 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      If I see this comment one more time I will find you

    • @Bentheman24
      @Bentheman24 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Shut up bot

    • @_wargame_
      @_wargame_ 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@lordexxotik Blud gonna do nothing

  • @mrjigglesthethird
    @mrjigglesthethird 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    e

  • @Meop79
    @Meop79 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will people use a tower that is trash? No. Is the tower still trash? Yes.

  • @mtggang9224
    @mtggang9224 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7th

  • @Татьяна-х6ф7и
    @Татьяна-х6ф7и 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1