JMU knows this. They are 31-3 and probably would not have made the dance if they had not won the conference title last night. It's also worth remembering that every year poorly ranked teams beat "good" teams. There is more parity out there than the tournament would let you know. Maybe we should think about a 256 team tournament. It would take one more week and generate huge interest. The top 64 teams could get one or two byes.
and in those 25 games how many Quad 1 wins do they have? don’t get this argument; he already said if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. so no point of expansion of the tournament either
If one of those teams like that every won a championship you’d have an argument but these team go 30-3 then lose to a 22-11 power 5 school by double digits every year. Why add these less talented , they have more win because they play in a weaker division.
Pitino had the unfair advantage of being able to bring in 3 star recruits at Iona immediately because of his name recognition, so it's not a comparable situation because he wasn't coaching a team with typical MAAC talent.
I actually like that idea. A lot. At present the only stakes in a major Conference tournament are bubble teams. Their auto bids rarely mean anything unless a team goes on a surprise deep run. Reveal the at larges ahead of time and the Auto bids become golden tickets and then watch how the snubbed teams fight for them like its The Hunger Games along with those who have had no shot and have nothing to lose. Must. See. TV.
On one hand, auto bids make the regular season kind of pointless. You could basically lose every game in the regular season but then play three or four good games in a row and get in. For mid-major conferences, you could see a 1 seed with a 25-4 record miss because some 4-25 team got lucky. For major conferences, winning a conference tournament is usually only a difference of one seed if you’re already an at-large team. On paper, the tournament only serves to screw good mid-major schools and slightly shift some at-large power schools. But the automatic bids do make the conference tournaments more interesting because it feels like almost every team is trying to give it their best shot. I think Bilas’ compromise is interesting, but I wonder if teams that are locks like Purdue and Houston this year would just rest their starters and throw their first game of the conference tourney since it the games don’t matter to them.
I agree with everything you’re saying but I don’t think the auto bids would really give up the chance to win their conference tourney because it’s their best shot for them to bring home hardware since the NCAA tourney can be unpredictable
Right, but in what other sport does the regular season literally not matter? If this format were in the NBA, the Pistons would be a playoff team. @@williammcalpine2718
That's on the 1 seed then. In those situations, the 1 or 2 seed in the conference is a double-digit favorite against the team with the losing record, so it's on them for getting upset. Sometimes there's a team like Milwaukee that has a bad record but talent-wise is one of the better teams in the conference but underachieved. The system is fine as is. Virginia, Wake Forest, and Pittsburgh all face the same dilemma in the ACC right now that any mid-major team faces in its conference tournament.
@luckylucas8596, yea, I would keep as is. It’s still a beautiful tournament even though all around it’s pretty crazy. I mean think about it….the 8 or 9th seed to me is worse than being a higher seed because you are all but guaranteed to face the #1 seed in the second rd. I mean in the history of the sport only one number #1 seed ever lost to a 16 and we all know that was Virginia. I like the automatic bids for conference tournaments because it does give everyone an equal opportunity to make the tournament like Bilas said.
Of course you rather watch G-Leauge or NBA, triple A baseball or MLB it’s the same here, there is a talent difference between big conferences and small ones.
@@shaunsauer9528 how many 16, 15, or 14 seeds from the smaller conferences have we seen beat 1,2,3 seeds over the past 5-10 years? It's getting more common to the point that it is almost a lock that it is going to happen this year.
Automatic bids should go to the regular season conference champions. If an underdog wins a conference tournament, throw them in the pool of at-large teams. If you have teams with less than 20 wins or more than 12 losses after the conference tournaments, regardless of conference tournament championship status, sorry, you're in the NIT. A 25 win team shouldn't miss out on the NCAA Tourney, because some crappy 9-21 team just happens to win 3 games at the end of the year.
@@Brandon-qd2lb Why would a team trying to improve its seeding in the NCAA, take the conference tournament off? "Automatic bid" doesn't mean "automatic seed" for the top teams. The teams that don't have a a good enough record shouldn't be in anyways, and all of the 18-11 or 19-10 teams would be playing just as hard as they do now. ...I'm sorry, but if an 8-23 Louisville or 9-22 West Virginia happen to win their conference tournaments and finish 13-23 and 14-22, they still don't deserve to be in the NCAA Tourney. Especially if it knocks someone out, like a 28-6 Indiana State team who just lost to 28-6 Drake by 4 in their conference championship game.
I think the fact that conference title games can happen upwards of a week apart from each other is more of the problem. If the MVC tournament had the same / similar dates as the ACC tournament, this wouldn’t be a controversation at all. Why doesnt every conference just have their tournaments on the same days?
lol you know nothing of sports, it about money money money, draw more eyes on tv when the space them out, can have the whole country focus on one game at a time, that’s ad’s for days right there. NCAA, media won’t care one bit about these small conferences until the they start winning, in other terms they start generating money.
Virginia loses 4 of their last 15 : I know their resume says they should be in but vibes say they should be out. Wisconsin loses 9 of their last 15 : 6 seed.
The purpose of the tournament should be to get the best teams in the tournament with each conference having a representative.Well, why doesn't the regular season champion of each conference not receive an automatic bid that would accomplish this?Ties of top teams should be decided by the tournament or the selection process if no tournament is available.Why should a team that has been the worse in a conference ,blown out by the top teams all season represent a conference in the "big dance" due to injuries,circumstances or a hot streak,yet you are below .500.Is this the only selection process to which the best team in a conference can be left out?
Watching this again two weeks later. Indiana State got screwed by the selection committee. So far in the NIT tournament, they have beaten SMU of the American Athletic Conference, Minnesota of the Big 10 Conference and Cincinatti of the Big 12 Conference. They had a 26-6 record going into selection Sunday. Number 1 in effective field goal percentage all season. 29 NET ranking. 8th in nation for offensive scoring 84.9 ppg. 31st in assist to turnover ration at 1.53. 11th in assist per game at 17.7. 1st in effective field goal percentage at .600. 3rd in actual field goal percentage at 50.1%. 3rd in free throw percentage at 79.9%. 12th in scoring margin (12 points per game). 11th in three point percentage at 38.12 %. 5th in three pointers made at 10.8 per game. 7th in winning percentage at 83.8#. 7th in winning percentage at 83.3%. Does this sound like a team that should get left out of the final four.
“They always lose to P5 team by double digits” Could come up with 100 examples to rebuff that, it’s a long time ago, but remember it clearly, and one of my favorites. A 3rd place team wins their tournament and goes on the dream showing why maybe the conference tournament does matter. Cal State Fullerton, 1978. 3rd place team in a mid tier league at best. (Ratings below are national rankings, not seedlings) Round One: beat #12 New Mexico -- Michael cooper !!! Round Two: beat #11 San Francisco - Bill Cartwright !!! Elite 8: lost to #6 Arkansas by 3 on last big shot by Ron Brewer They belonged.
I’m looking back at this, and I don’t think it is close enough when the SEC gets 8 teams in, and oh by the way their AD chaired the committee. No one with direct conference affiliation who can benefit from the selections should be allowed on the committee. Because looking at it now, that committee chairman straight up cheated for his own benefit.
All conferences have the choice, regular season or tournament for the automatic bid. Over time, all have chosen tournament. Every team has a shot. Never a fairer process.
The top conferences all get 6-10 teams in the tournament while everybody else gets 1 or 2. Yes, the current system is very much unfair. As a Marshall guy, I follow the Sun Belt. On the men’s side, James Madison won the auto bid and I believe App State deserves to get in as well. On the women’s side, Marshall won the auto bid and I believe James Madison deserves to get in as well. The lower conferences deserve more chances at auto bids.
My criticism EVERY year is that really good mid-major and small-conference teams ALWAYS get slighted in favor of mediocre major-conference teams who can’t even win half of their conference games. It still bothers me that a really good Monmouth team (years ago) beat 5 major conference teams, and was left out of the field in favor of mediocre major-conference teams. Like Bilas says, the tourney is foolproof. It’s always great no matter which teams are in. But it would be soooooooooo much better, imho, with a bunch of really good unknown teams that can take down the giants who may or may not truly deserve to be there. I may be in the minority, but I’d much prefer to watch teams JMU, Indiana St, Appalachian St, Grand Canyon, and McNeese, but odds are that some of them won’t get in.
Will Jay Bilas speak out on Flip the trip and Duke fans actions at end of game Until then Jay Bilas needs to make no comments on anything off the court
68 before the conf tourneys as Jay said -- then -- if a non-68 team wins a conf tourney - let the conf decide which team from that conf is replaced by the conf tourney champ.
The best chances of that happening were Butler when they were in the Horizon League and Gonzaga a few years ago. UNLV was the last mid-major to win the national championship, but I was a toddler when that happened. It's a lot less likely now because of conference realignment.
@@RobbieStacks90UNLV wasn't considered mid major. They were in a multi bid league, were pre-season #1. I believe the last true mid major was Louisville in the Metro.
@@RobbieStacks90that won't matter. Mid majors continues to reach the elite 8, F4, national title etc more than ever. Majority of the "best" players only stay for a yr at these power conference schools, then its NBA or transfer portal. Most teams that make the elite 8 - national title game are loaded with JR,SR,GR. Itll happen again eventually
How ironic is it now after Bilas talked about either Wake or Virginia getting into the tournament, and then NC State comes through from the #19 seed to win the whole ACC Tournament.
Want The Tournament Fixed ... 1) Regular Season Champion gets in but cant be ranked higher than a 9 seed 2) Conference Tournaments can only involve teams with a winning record 3) As you advance in your Conference Tournament you get a better seeding 4) If Regular Season and Conference Champ are the same , that opens an at large bid 5) No more than 4 teams from any Conference in the Tournament . There .. fixed it for you 😂
Of course it’s unfair. I’ve been saying this for years. The regular season, especially for smaller schools, is virtually meaningless. It’s all about money, like everything else in sports.
The NCAA Tourney Selection Committee members probably NEVER played NOR coached on a college level, if they coached on ANY level at ALL. What do THEY know.
In the end, smaller conferences have the choice to have the conference regular season champ get the automatic bid or the tournament champ. Seeing as the tournaments are never in a 100% neutral environment, it means that the best team, not only has to win 3 or 4 more games in a row, but one of those teams may be playing with a near home court advantage. Those smaller conferences have a better chance of getting a first round win from their 10th seed 28-5 regular season champ than their 15th seed 20-12 conference tourney champ. I do crack up that Jay Bilas made it sound like the top 5 teams in the MWC would all have worse records if they played in the ACC though. The Big 12 is a much stronger conference than the ACC since 2020 and Houston came in from a conference that was similar in strength to the MWC and finished 15-3 on top of the Big 12. It's not even Houston's best team the last 4 years and certainly not it's healthiest (3 players out for the season). Virginia won the national championship in 2019 and hasn't had a tourney win since. Duke and North Carolina have a combined 2 Sweet 16 appearances since 2020. The ACC aint what it use to be. When you do your brackets this year, flip a coin when a MWC team is matched up against an ACC team.
POV the ACC 3/4 teams left in the elite 8 and the MW has 0/6 and the Big 12 has 0/8 both conferences abuse the net ranking to boost themselves up in the net and then got exposed in the tournament remember when everyone said that New Mexico was gonna roll over Clemson and exposed the ACC and then proceeded to lose by more then 20 in the first round
Imagine the ‘23 Carolina Panthers showing up as the 16 seed in an NFC playoff tournament, just a few wins away from reaching the Super Bowl. These conference tournaments are ridiculous.
Every Conference champion gets in end of story then pick the next best teams extend the tournament to 100 teams do away with Conference tournaments and have 16 play in games
I think it’s a little bit unfair. You got teams winning conferences with worse records than teams that finish in the top 3 in a power 5 conference that don’t make it
All this talk about Indiana State and no one ever gives Drake any credit. They've had a really good season and played a great game. They deserve their bid and wouldn't be too far off from an auto bid if they hadn't won.
I predict the Power 4 (not 5) will eventually decide they don't need the NCAA. Those conferences include the teams (especially in football) that get the largest percentage of fan attention. I think they'll decide they want their own football playoff system and to keep all the money generated by the basketball tournaments. They can do their own TV contracts, and their own streaming networks. (ACC, SEC, and B1G already have their own networks.) The remainder of the schools outside the Power 4 can stay aligned with the NCAA if they want but the Power 4 schools will move out from under NCAA control. Streaming, social media, the Transfer Portal and NIL are changing the shape of college athletics forever.
Everyone's talking about eliminating auto bids or expanding the tournament, to me they're missing the problem. Conference tournaments are a great tradition and shouldn't go anywhere, and winning should mean something. The only way for winning to mean something is to have a chance at a national championship. The problem is that D-1 is too big. Way too big. Why are half the conferences filled entirely with teams that have no realistic shot at winning? Split D-1 into D-1A and D-1AA, then we can keep auto bids and keep the tourney the same size.
What's unfair is that Indiana State is going to be given an at large bid just because "it's what the people want to see." That's all the NCAA does: cater to the public. Indiana State shouldn't even be in consideration with that resume, yet the committee will put them in and give them a favorable first round match-up to justify the decision.
@@Noahwarriorsfan Michigan State was a top 5 team odds-wise preseason and has the talent to get to the Final Four. Indiana State does not and is just wasting everybody's time.
Let’s go back to 1974 and previous .. conference champ (most leagues sent tourney champ, some sent reg season). Only 25-29 teams made it. Only a few at large, like 3-5 tops. (Maryland was #3 team in country, didn’t get in, lost to #1 NC st in acc tourney) 1971 South Carolina was 16-0 in ACC, lost in their tournament, out. 1971 Marquette turned down ncaa bid to play NIT No league got more than one team… period! Of course I don’t want that, but it was once a lot worse.
That's why Pitino hated coaching at Iona. It's tough on coaches and players. You can win 25 games and miss it, if don't win conference
JMU knows this. They are 31-3 and probably would not have made the dance if they had not won the conference title last night. It's also worth remembering that every year poorly ranked teams beat "good" teams. There is more parity out there than the tournament would let you know. Maybe we should think about a 256 team tournament. It would take one more week and generate huge interest. The top 64 teams could get one or two byes.
and in those 25 games how many Quad 1 wins do they have?
don’t get this argument; he already said if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. so no point of expansion of the tournament either
Pitino should be in jail. It's funny to me how soon people forget the horrible things white men do.
If one of those teams like that every won a championship you’d have an argument but these team go 30-3 then lose to a 22-11 power 5 school by double digits every year.
Why add these less talented , they have more win because they play in a weaker division.
Pitino had the unfair advantage of being able to bring in 3 star recruits at Iona immediately because of his name recognition, so it's not a comparable situation because he wasn't coaching a team with typical MAAC talent.
Everything about the NCAA is unfair. Just throw this on the pile.
Hey Putin!
I actually like that idea. A lot. At present the only stakes in a major Conference tournament are bubble teams. Their auto bids rarely mean anything unless a team goes on a surprise deep run. Reveal the at larges ahead of time and the Auto bids become golden tickets and then watch how the snubbed teams fight for them like its The Hunger Games along with those who have had no shot and have nothing to lose. Must. See. TV.
On one hand, auto bids make the regular season kind of pointless. You could basically lose every game in the regular season but then play three or four good games in a row and get in. For mid-major conferences, you could see a 1 seed with a 25-4 record miss because some 4-25 team got lucky. For major conferences, winning a conference tournament is usually only a difference of one seed if you’re already an at-large team. On paper, the tournament only serves to screw good mid-major schools and slightly shift some at-large power schools.
But the automatic bids do make the conference tournaments more interesting because it feels like almost every team is trying to give it their best shot. I think Bilas’ compromise is interesting, but I wonder if teams that are locks like Purdue and Houston this year would just rest their starters and throw their first game of the conference tourney since it the games don’t matter to them.
I agree with everything you’re saying but I don’t think the auto bids would really give up the chance to win their conference tourney because it’s their best shot for them to bring home hardware since the NCAA tourney can be unpredictable
Right, but in what other sport does the regular season literally not matter? If this format were in the NBA, the Pistons would be a playoff team. @@williammcalpine2718
That's on the 1 seed then. In those situations, the 1 or 2 seed in the conference is a double-digit favorite against the team with the losing record, so it's on them for getting upset. Sometimes there's a team like Milwaukee that has a bad record but talent-wise is one of the better teams in the conference but underachieved. The system is fine as is. Virginia, Wake Forest, and Pittsburgh all face the same dilemma in the ACC right now that any mid-major team faces in its conference tournament.
@@RobbieStacks90Milwaukee lost like 5 overtime’s games to the best teams in the conference so I think they have a chance
@luckylucas8596, yea, I would keep as is. It’s still a beautiful tournament even though all around it’s pretty crazy. I mean think about it….the 8 or 9th seed to me is worse than being a higher seed because you are all but guaranteed to face the #1 seed in the second rd. I mean in the history of the sport only one number #1 seed ever lost to a 16 and we all know that was Virginia. I like the automatic bids for conference tournaments because it does give everyone an equal opportunity to make the tournament like Bilas said.
I will always rather see a 28-29 win non conference winning mid-major in the tournament than the 8th place Big 10 (or other major conference) team
It takes away from the season.... In 1 bid leagues the conference champion should be the team to go dancing from that conf.
So screw over the smaller conferences for the bigger ones?
Wouldn't expect any different response from Bilas.
Bingo.
Of course you rather watch G-Leauge or NBA, triple A baseball or MLB it’s the same here, there is a talent difference between big conferences and small ones.
@@shaunsauer9528 how many 16, 15, or 14 seeds from the smaller conferences have we seen beat 1,2,3 seeds over the past 5-10 years? It's getting more common to the point that it is almost a lock that it is going to happen this year.
Typical
Automatic bids should go to the regular season conference champions. If an underdog wins a conference tournament, throw them in the pool of at-large teams. If you have teams with less than 20 wins or more than 12 losses after the conference tournaments, regardless of conference tournament championship status, sorry, you're in the NIT.
A 25 win team shouldn't miss out on the NCAA Tourney, because some crappy 9-21 team just happens to win 3 games at the end of the year.
That is exactly why conference tournaments are a joke.
Then teams will take off the conference tourney… teams want one more chance to improve their seeding
@@Brandon-qd2lb Why would a team trying to improve its seeding in the NCAA, take the conference tournament off? "Automatic bid" doesn't mean "automatic seed" for the top teams.
The teams that don't have a a good enough record shouldn't be in anyways, and all of the 18-11 or 19-10 teams would be playing just as hard as they do now.
...I'm sorry, but if an 8-23 Louisville or 9-22 West Virginia happen to win their conference tournaments and finish 13-23 and 14-22, they still don't deserve to be in the NCAA Tourney. Especially if it knocks someone out, like a 28-6 Indiana State team who just lost to 28-6 Drake by 4 in their conference championship game.
Automatic bids are absolutely wonderful and the tournament would not be worth watching without them
I think the fact that conference title games can happen upwards of a week apart from each other is more of the problem. If the MVC tournament had the same / similar dates as the ACC tournament, this wouldn’t be a controversation at all. Why doesnt every conference just have their tournaments on the same days?
TV ratings and ad revenue
lol you know nothing of sports, it about money money money, draw more eyes on tv when the space them out, can have the whole country focus on one game at a time, that’s ad’s for days right there. NCAA, media won’t care one bit about these small conferences until the they start winning, in other terms they start generating money.
Virginia loses 4 of their last 15 : I know their resume says they should be in but vibes say they should be out. Wisconsin loses 9 of their last 15 : 6 seed.
At least someone else has noticed- Wisconsin at 6 is insanity
@@Master-Debatorwe’ve played the best teams in the nation fym
@@sawyerhiston4637 and lost to all of them (except marquette which was your super bowl)
@@ligamo I’m talking recently lol
@@sawyerhiston4637 The Big Ten has done nothing of note in College basketball recently
The purpose of the tournament should be to get the best teams in the tournament with each conference having a representative.Well, why doesn't the regular season champion of each conference not receive an automatic bid that would accomplish this?Ties of top teams should be decided by the tournament or the selection process if no tournament is available.Why should a team that has been the worse in a conference ,blown out by the top teams all season represent a conference in the "big dance" due to injuries,circumstances or a hot streak,yet you are below .500.Is this the only selection process to which the best team in a conference can be left out?
Watching this again two weeks later. Indiana State got screwed by the selection committee. So far in the NIT tournament, they have beaten SMU of the American Athletic Conference, Minnesota of the Big 10 Conference and Cincinatti of the Big 12 Conference. They had a 26-6 record going into selection Sunday. Number 1 in effective field goal percentage all season. 29 NET ranking. 8th in nation for offensive scoring 84.9 ppg. 31st in assist to turnover ration at 1.53. 11th in assist per game at 17.7. 1st in effective field goal percentage at .600. 3rd in actual field goal percentage at 50.1%. 3rd in free throw percentage at 79.9%. 12th in scoring margin (12 points per game). 11th in three point percentage at 38.12 %. 5th in three pointers made at 10.8 per game. 7th in winning percentage at 83.8#. 7th in winning percentage at 83.3%.
Does this sound like a team that should get left out of the final four.
“They always lose to P5 team by double digits”
Could come up with 100 examples to rebuff that, it’s a long time ago, but remember it clearly, and one of my favorites. A 3rd place team wins their tournament and goes on the dream showing why maybe the conference tournament does matter.
Cal State Fullerton, 1978. 3rd place team in a mid tier league at best.
(Ratings below are national rankings, not seedlings)
Round One: beat #12 New Mexico -- Michael cooper !!!
Round Two: beat #11 San Francisco - Bill Cartwright !!!
Elite 8: lost to #6 Arkansas by 3 on last big shot by Ron Brewer
They belonged.
I’m looking back at this, and I don’t think it is close enough when the SEC gets 8 teams in, and oh by the way their AD chaired the committee. No one with direct conference affiliation who can benefit from the selections should be allowed on the committee. Because looking at it now, that committee chairman straight up cheated for his own benefit.
There's a simple solution to this problem. The non-P5 conferences could stop giving their automatic bids to their tournament champions.
I love that idea rank 1-68 before conference playoffs. As teams not in the top 68 win it pushes out the bottom of the list.
Then you can still have a seed show because after conference playoffs you can re rank the 68 teams that made it in.
All conferences have the choice, regular season or tournament for the automatic bid. Over time, all have chosen tournament. Every team has a shot. Never a fairer process.
The top conferences all get 6-10 teams in the tournament while everybody else gets 1 or 2. Yes, the current system is very much unfair. As a Marshall guy, I follow the Sun Belt. On the men’s side, James Madison won the auto bid and I believe App State deserves to get in as well. On the women’s side, Marshall won the auto bid and I believe James Madison deserves to get in as well. The lower conferences deserve more chances at auto bids.
My criticism EVERY year is that really good mid-major and small-conference teams ALWAYS get slighted in favor of mediocre major-conference teams who can’t even win half of their conference games. It still bothers me that a really good Monmouth team (years ago) beat 5 major conference teams, and was left out of the field in favor of mediocre major-conference teams. Like Bilas says, the tourney is foolproof. It’s always great no matter which teams are in. But it would be soooooooooo much better, imho, with a bunch of really good unknown teams that can take down the giants who may or may not truly deserve to be there. I may be in the minority, but I’d much prefer to watch teams JMU, Indiana St, Appalachian St, Grand Canyon, and McNeese, but odds are that some of them won’t get in.
y’all do know this rule is gonna change once conference realignment happens right?
Will Jay Bilas speak out on Flip the trip and
Duke fans actions at end of game
Until then Jay Bilas needs to make no comments on anything off the court
Agree he has turned into a tool
5 years ago he was mostly unbiased
68 before the conf tourneys as Jay said -- then -- if a non-68 team wins a conf tourney - let the conf decide which team from that conf is replaced by the conf tourney champ.
I just want to see a mid-major win it all before I die... is that too much to ask?!?
The best chances of that happening were Butler when they were in the Horizon League and Gonzaga a few years ago. UNLV was the last mid-major to win the national championship, but I was a toddler when that happened. It's a lot less likely now because of conference realignment.
@@RobbieStacks90UNLV wasn't considered mid major. They were in a multi bid league, were pre-season #1. I believe the last true mid major was Louisville in the Metro.
@@RobbieStacks90that won't matter. Mid majors continues to reach the elite 8, F4, national title etc more than ever. Majority of the "best" players only stay for a yr at these power conference schools, then its NBA or transfer portal. Most teams that make the elite 8 - national title game are loaded with JR,SR,GR. Itll happen again eventually
Louisville 1986 and UNLV 1990
San Diego St. was in the final just last season
How ironic is it now after Bilas talked about either Wake or Virginia getting into the tournament, and then NC State comes through from the #19 seed to win the whole ACC Tournament.
The haves do not want to share with the have-nots. What's new?
Want The Tournament Fixed ...
1) Regular Season Champion gets in but cant be ranked higher than a 9 seed
2) Conference Tournaments can only involve teams with a winning record
3) As you advance in your Conference Tournament you get a better seeding
4) If Regular Season and Conference Champ are the same , that opens an at large bid
5) No more than 4 teams from any Conference in the Tournament .
There .. fixed it for you 😂
Of course it’s unfair.
I’ve been saying this for years.
The regular season, especially for smaller schools, is virtually meaningless.
It’s all about money, like everything else in sports.
The NCAA Tourney Selection Committee members probably NEVER played NOR coached on a college level, if they coached on ANY level at ALL. What do THEY know.
In the end, smaller conferences have the choice to have the conference regular season champ get the automatic bid or the tournament champ. Seeing as the tournaments are never in a 100% neutral environment, it means that the best team, not only has to win 3 or 4 more games in a row, but one of those teams may be playing with a near home court advantage. Those smaller conferences have a better chance of getting a first round win from their 10th seed 28-5 regular season champ than their 15th seed 20-12 conference tourney champ.
I do crack up that Jay Bilas made it sound like the top 5 teams in the MWC would all have worse records if they played in the ACC though. The Big 12 is a much stronger conference than the ACC since 2020 and Houston came in from a conference that was similar in strength to the MWC and finished 15-3 on top of the Big 12. It's not even Houston's best team the last 4 years and certainly not it's healthiest (3 players out for the season). Virginia won the national championship in 2019 and hasn't had a tourney win since. Duke and North Carolina have a combined 2 Sweet 16 appearances since 2020. The ACC aint what it use to be. When you do your brackets this year, flip a coin when a MWC team is matched up against an ACC team.
You’re just yapping lol, the ACC has had the most representatives in the Final Four since 2021. They had Miami last year. Duke and UNC in 2022.
POV the ACC 3/4 teams left in the elite 8 and the MW has 0/6 and the Big 12 has 0/8 both conferences abuse the net ranking to boost themselves up in the net and then got exposed in the tournament remember when everyone said that New Mexico was gonna roll over Clemson and exposed the ACC and then proceeded to lose by more then 20 in the first round
Imagine the ‘23 Carolina Panthers showing up as the 16 seed in an NFC playoff tournament, just a few wins away from reaching the Super Bowl.
These conference tournaments are ridiculous.
As a TSU grad, I love the conference tournaments because we win the SWAC tournament every year no matter how bad we are 😂
I don’t think it’s unfair. Those schools get no respect for their wins. This systems gives them a chance. If it changes no mid major would make it.
Teams do get screwed over in the at-large conversation often. Criteria seems to be different depending on conference
If this was ever taken to court, it would be ruled as blatantly anti- trust.
Lol
Acc never gets any love, they have had 3 teams in the last 2 years in the final 4
Every Conference champion gets in end of story then pick the next best teams extend the tournament to 100 teams do away with Conference tournaments and have 16 play in games
I think it’s a little bit unfair. You got teams winning conferences with worse records than teams that finish in the top 3 in a power 5 conference that don’t make it
So what would be the point of being conference champions?
Jay Bilas would be singing a very different tune if it was anyone but the Wolpack
All this talk about Indiana State and no one ever gives Drake any credit. They've had a really good season and played a great game. They deserve their bid and wouldn't be too far off from an auto bid if they hadn't won.
LEAVE IT AS IS!!!! Conference tournaments have a TON of history behind them. Especially in the home of the ACC.....NORTH CAROLINA
I predict the Power 4 (not 5) will eventually decide they don't need the NCAA. Those conferences include the teams (especially in football) that get the largest percentage of fan attention. I think they'll decide they want their own football playoff system and to keep all the money generated by the basketball tournaments. They can do their own TV contracts, and their own streaming networks. (ACC, SEC, and B1G already have their own networks.) The remainder of the schools outside the Power 4 can stay aligned with the NCAA if they want but the Power 4 schools will move out from under NCAA control. Streaming, social media, the Transfer Portal and NIL are changing the shape of college athletics forever.
Least delusional Iowa fan (jk)
The conference tournament winners getting automatic bids is "human stupidity".
We know why he’s against it. It takes away bids from his buddies like Izzo
Big 12 sucks
The at-large bids will always be where the real name game begins -- the nebulous formula will alway$ favor the middling major conference program$.
I wish the regular season champ got the auto bid. Conference tourneys are a money grab.
For smaller conferences I agree.
Nothing wrong with the system.
Either way it’s great hearing the acc cry about being left out lol. Play better!!!
No
All jay talks abt is Rupp arena ice cream and duke.
All true (aka didnt win a tournament) conference winners should get an automatic bid
I’m tired of Jay Bilas. I can’t get that disastrous PMT interview out of my brain.
Good luck to duke
How about stop changing everything in this dam country
U mean rigged
Nah
It sucks
Everyone's talking about eliminating auto bids or expanding the tournament, to me they're missing the problem. Conference tournaments are a great tradition and shouldn't go anywhere, and winning should mean something. The only way for winning to mean something is to have a chance at a national championship. The problem is that D-1 is too big. Way too big. Why are half the conferences filled entirely with teams that have no realistic shot at winning? Split D-1 into D-1A and D-1AA, then we can keep auto bids and keep the tourney the same size.
Jay Bias
What's unfair is that Indiana State is going to be given an at large bid just because "it's what the people want to see." That's all the NCAA does: cater to the public. Indiana State shouldn't even be in consideration with that resume, yet the committee will put them in and give them a favorable first round match-up to justify the decision.
I mean is it better giving it to a 18-13 Michigan ST or?? Or mediocre teams that are brand names
@@Noahwarriorsfan Michigan State was a top 5 team odds-wise preseason and has the talent to get to the Final Four. Indiana State does not and is just wasting everybody's time.
@@RobbieStacks90First time watching ball?
The committee doesn’t choose the matchups they rank the teams 1 by 1 and then it’s matched up automatically
@@RobbieStacks90 nahh bro just mentioned a preseason ranking i'm dead
Jay billis is out of touch
We just need a 128 team tournament
Womp womp
Let’s go back to 1974 and previous .. conference champ (most leagues sent tourney champ, some sent reg season). Only 25-29 teams made it. Only a few at large, like 3-5 tops.
(Maryland was #3 team in country, didn’t get in, lost to #1 NC st in acc tourney)
1971 South Carolina was 16-0 in ACC, lost in their tournament, out.
1971 Marquette turned down ncaa bid to play NIT
No league got more than one team… period!
Of course I don’t want that, but it was once a lot worse.
Honestly who cares I will only be watching one tourney this year and it’s the GIRLS! Pure talent and excitement