Yeah, after seeing Geralt’s leg get bent back and then his back broke and then ragdolled down a flight of stairs after missing one step, I’m am very cautious about walking down anything more than 5 inch drop now.
I think time limits can be fun but with todays media having the option to give options there should be an option to turn it off or make it different difficulties to choose from.
@@Hopischwopi Nah. If the Developer wants you stressed because that is part of the mechanic and difficulty then shouldn't the developer keep want their vision is? Adversely they could just make it so it times you and reward you based on the time, so you can still get the accomplishment for achieving victory and improving allows for a better reward so more incentive to get better.
@@DS-ld8ns there are different kinds of stress. If a game is advertised as stressfull I would already not buy it and in that case fair enough. But in general I am for accessibility and the developer are probably also interested in keeping the game fun for at least most players I hope. A certain kind of adrenaline and stress I am all there for but when it takes over and makes the game unenjoyable it would be nice to be able to have some kind of control. For example the souls game. Their concept is to be super hard and at times frustrating which I get that`s why I don`t play them. So in general I kinda agree but I also think it is nice when developers make their game open for a lot of people if their main focus isn`t totally wrecked. Puzzles can be hard if they are done good and maybe the option can be behind a barrier like "You have to try this puzzles at least 10 times before yo can turn off the timer." or something like that.
Oh man, Falcon was ON ONE for this video. Felt like he just kept going "Wait, pause the script, I've got my own rant here for a moment". And it was damn good too. Highly amusing. :)
I HATE time limits, especially in open worlds or exploratory games. I want to venture and explore and a time limit completely negates that fun. Thats why a lot of people, including myself didn't play Majora's mask when it first came out. Exploring Hyrule was one of the best parts of OoT, so when I heard you only had 3 days I just didn't even take the time to check it out.
If your curious originally you have 24 hours to beat the game not in game hours but real life hours had to take a 6 hour nap cause your tires that 6 less hours you have to beat the game
You know you have in a game 30 bullets in magazine and 90 reserve ammo, shoot once, reload (discard clip) and then you're left with 89 reserve ammo. Mafia is not like that. You shoot once reload and the lose 29 precious tommy gun bullets because the almost full magazine was discarded on the ground. It's terrible, but i like taking risks, it's part of the experience.
Its fine with mafia 1 i just dont like the race car handling on classic mode for the remaster. Played the game on normal and liked it but on classic that cockblocked stopped me from getting my last achievement. Tried it for 5 days and im never allowing myself to get that mad at a videogame again.
@@kiritsu551 "you have to go to bed and sleep 7 hours after taking your heart medication, sleep one hour over or under, then your character will experience a heart attack and won't be available for several months". The Game.
I really loved Falcon's energy in this video, he explained all the points with a certain high mood, which just made his point come across that much better.
I feel like that's what makes Gameranx so much more enjoyable to watch over other gaming channels. They're both entertaining and non-cynical. Despite often having some arguably CLICKBAITY or at least EYECATCHY titles that use absolute terms, the content within the videos never state opinions in an objective fashion. Falcon, Jake B, etc never come off like they know more than their audience. They just come off like they have their own opinion, and always phrase those opinions in an open-minded way. One could argue this level of tolerance is an unchallenging, overly-neutral way to cover topics, but in a world where video game coverage is almost always sensationalized, I feel like there's merit in having a channel who represents gaming in a candid yet still passionate fashion. They aren't hype trains nor do they pretend to be journalists. And, while I'm not gonna pretend like a lot of their content is substantial, it is a refreshing take and maybe a teensy weensy bit poignant in how it presents its junkfood content in a way that at least _sounds_ interested in itself, and not just a guy reading a script, pretending to care.
I agree, and some of the minigames were pretty good, like the pool one. And they also used the hangouts to have Nico talk to the other characters adding to the narrative.
@itsmeflacko1618 Absolutely agreed. I love the hangouts in GTA IV primarily because there's so much character explored in the conversations you have with everyone that don't always come up in the story missions.
I love when the weather actually affects things, its so much more immersive And often, if they do make it affect things, they'll have benefits too (such as stealth being easier when its raining)
I think developers sometimes confuse realism and immersion. Realism can help immersion, but too much realism hurts it, because it reminds you how tedious real life can be
i think "immersion" could be, defined at the top of my head, "figurative realism" as distinct from "literal". Seems it is easier not having to put in cumbers.
I like the duality you make between realism and immersion, but I don't understand your reason behind why too much realism hurts. What I think is that too much realism may not be the answer for a game that wants to simulate and emulate a real-life activity, but the gameplay itself
It’s fine if realism ties into the game main gameplay loop. An example would be those animals in Far Cry 3. For RDR2, it provided 1 good and 1 bad example. Brushing and feeding horse is a fun detail because it’s quick, painless, and it also enhances the goal of the game: to make player have fun being a cowboy, and a cowboy needs to bond with their horse. Then, they have the animal carcass rotting. That’s realism, but it also makes that activity much less enjoyable because it doesn’t really enhance the feeling being a cowboy.
I love how especially within the last dozen of videos Falcon is becoming more and more animated as opposed to a monotone soulless husk. He's starting to remind me of Ryan George
I kinda like that Subnautica doesn't have a mini-map, the beacons are usually enough to orient yourself, and eventually you get a good idea of where you are even without them.
Exactly I’ve played enough of the game to know which direction everything is, and I have multiple beacons and outposts around the map to help with navigation
I actually really enjoy a lot of these things, like hanging out with friends in GTA and traffic laws in the Mafia games, and even realistic rain effects. All of that really helps with immersion and makes the worlds feel a lot more real.
Same, I like weight in Soul game, you actually carry what you need. Jumping, no problem when I play a special suit or special power, but if my character is a normal human, well jump should be limited. I love Tom Clancy Game realistic difficulty, yes it's not real life, real life when you die, you are done, but it's nice to be really careful because one bullet your are done. So most of this mechanic, I like them, but I guess I like realistic game but it's not for everyone else.
What I hate in games is when they do something like drop an invisible time limit on you, when literally every other mission in the game doesn't penalize you for taking your time, you'll go from doing sidequests and exploring to suddenly "oops you have irreversibly ruined this save file 17 hours into the game".
I think Shenmue 1 does that. If you don't do what you're supposed to in some game months, the chinese guy that killed Ryu's father (I forgot his name) comes to your house and kills you. At least that's what I read somewhere.
hot take: the speed limit in mafia made the game more immersive and how realistic the game was, it really pulled me into the world. Just beat it remaster, so good.
I 100% agree. I beat the remaster of 1 when it came out and just beat mafia 2 again. Ones still my favorite. I guess I'll try 3 again I didn't like it and stopped playing after like 6-8 hours.
I kinda hated it. I mean, I DO remember it and I thought it was an interesting convention… but I was already at ‘uhh, when can I go supervillain mode?’, which Mafia was a slow boil… so went back to the insanity of Saints Row as I didn’t really have a lot of time to play back then. I need to go back and give Mafia another shot. That said, IRL, I’ve been pulled over maybe three times? In like 20+ years of driving. Not every other block. Seemed like the cops were on every street corner with nothing better to do than to chase you down for doing 5 over. 🤷🏻♂️
Morrowind STARTS with your character only being able to do little hops, but your Acrobatics skill determined how high you could jump, as well as your carry weight. If you weren't weighed down by a ton of items and had a high Acrobatics skill, you could jump on to and across rooftops. You basically turn super human. But, of course, no one ever has an empty inventory in Morrowind, unless they're just starting the game.
Yeah i remember maxing out acrobatics and using the boots of blinding with the gamma turned right up, i was in the air for for so much time near the end, zooming everywhere. Loved the jumping coupled with the polygon glitch in that game too, making mountain climbing fun
reminds me of the silly gag item: some magic scrolls that let you jump absurdly high...BUT you would die from Fall Damage unless you also had a Levitate spell handy.
Even right where his character is in the footage here is close to Tarhiel and the Scrolls of Icarian Flight. Doing all that complaining about wimpy jumping when he could fortify his acrobatics like 1000 and fly across the map.
I actually like when you get a chance to just hang out and do random stuff with characters in a game. Frankly wish you could do more of that in Cyberpunk. Some of the most fun stuff for me that also makes the decision making at the end more impactful is just stuff you do getting to know various characters like Pyramid Song, or breaking into a drive in for a goofy date with Rogue.
1:43 I actually liked the moving boxes part in Mafia because it was used to highlight how monotonous the job is and makes Vito's reaction so much more relatable and believable
It's not too much of an issue these days, but I'm always irked by games that don't have in-game help sections regarding controls, tutorials, etc. Similarly, games that don't have some sort of log to keep track of your objectives. Sometimes I just need to leave a game for awhile to play other things, but then finally coming back to it can be really intimidating if I need to scrape together information about what I've been doing and how to do certain things.
My only real complaint about elden ring. The story was so minimal and convoluting, it would have made a huge difference to be able to easily track and go back to information you found.
@@gettindickered on pc, ER tells you console controls. For to not everything being configurable done controls remain a mystery. It's there a digital manual? No, wtf! I guess it doesn't matter to those who have played Souls games before, but I stopped playing, because my 8bitdo I know where it is has stick drift (it's more of a on the go flat less ergo controller, or the SNES PS clones people think of) and if I dig out a PS controller, then I have to screw with pc set up, maybe a lithium ion battery replacement, which makes me appreciate Xbox AA. Do I do all that, no, I play something else. That's before all the, bring a notebook and keep it organized aspects (which I miss some of that, sometimes) of ER, you're taking about.
Bloodborne is probably my favourite game of all time, and one of the biggest gripes i have with it is their "help" tooltips in the menu. Like... i get it, it's not meant to spoon feed you everything, but in that and also DS3 at least, some of the things in the menu are so ill-defined or poorly explained that it makes it hard to even know what they do. For example, the "deep" status effect in DS3. When you go to the help tip for that item it simply tells you it allows you to imbue a weapon with "deep" status, and in the defence it just tells you what deep is effective/ineffective against. There's nowhere where it tells you what deep actually IS, what it does to enemies and how it works. And its the same for anything that isnt self explanatory by name.
When GTA4 came out, I had a friend who thought I was really into bowling because I called him every day to ask if he wanted to go bowling as soon as he got off work or was mid-way through something. This went on for about 2 years.
That's got to be 1 of the most clever specific-game-related,inside-jokes of all time! Also,1 of the longest-running(that's an incredible amount of effort,on your part)! It sounds like he didn't know about that part in GTA4. Or,he didn't play/watch GTA4. So,didn't/wouldn't get the joke on ANY level... XD What was his response,when U kept asking for 2 whole years??? He had to start losing patience or something,after the 1st year... xD Hilarious idea,btw! 1 of the funniest/least harmful pranks I've ever heard of! :D -Peace
It is good to be reminded of the stuff that sucks in reality, it gives you an opportunity to reflect over life. They show you that even the Main Character / The Hero has to do or does mundane but often necessary stuff.
Just finished playing the Deus Ex series. The first always cracked me up when you damage both legs and have to crawl around the map if you don't heal. But when you talk to other characters it shows JC jumping up from the ground to stand up and carry on a conversation before lying back down to crawl again... that game is still a masterpiece 22 years later... lol
Actually i like some of the chore stuff you talked about, like hanging out with friends in GTAIV. Besides being realistic, makes you feel like living another life in another world, with another friends, etc.
3:10 yes, Mafia is surprisingly accurate to how cars of that era drive. I would say they're honestly a little controllable. Also needing to learn to drive the cars in that game is a real thing too. Model Ts didn't have a gas pedal for instance, the throttle was a lever on the steering wheel because why not give your hands one more thing to account for when coming to a stop 🤷
Model t came out in 1908, "why not give your hands one more thing to account for when coming to a stop" I'm all that time we have basically replaced the throttle lever with the mobile phone, cos that's always in people's hands when at a stop light!
Same with Mafia II. I'm an old gearhead, have worked on more than a few cars from the 40s, and the car that's basically a 1940 Willys roadster handles surprisingly like the real thing, down to the punishing understeer.
Time specific tasks might be the most annoying game mechanic. I can't do this thing until 2 PM, and it's noon, so I have to stand around for 2 in game hours. At least have a wait feature if you're going to do that.
Worth mentioning re the very last one - in many games, even ones that have minimap by default, disabling it adds enormous level of immersion... and sometimes challenge. Thinking GR Wildlands specifically for example. That said - I understand if people want to simply go marker to marker, and don't enjoy planning their trip before embarking. If anything, I think it'd be the best if most (all?) games had minimap/radar, but make it possible to switch it off for those that want it.
Lol, almost everyone had that "oh, this is so realistic" feeling when they first played Shemmue, then a couple of hours later it's trying to find the reasons to continue on. 😂
@2:25 Yakuza 5 has the most stern driving sections by far. Indicate, don't start or stop too fast, watch the traffic lights etc. I almost quit the game even though those sections were optional.
Having just finished that stuff in the past three days, I don't get the frustration. It was in short bursts, there wasn't a ton of them, and there was at least the dialogue management while you did it. To each their own, though. Those pedestrians running into the side of my taxi were complete nonsense though.
@@IAMMegamanX7 I first played it 10 years ago, after waiting 3 years for a new Yakuza game I didn't expect to be playing a cab simulator and highway racer. I appreciate it far more now though, remastered (without the PS3 load times).
@@XanderCrease That's fair. I've had a completely different experience, as I just started the series recently. The amount of time between Y4 being uninstalled and Y5 being installed was about 10 minutes, and I"m on PC, which i can imagine loads way, way faster.
I actually like a lot of these things. Some of the more monotone things like cleaning in a Game because I can watch Netflix, Crunchyroll or TH-cam because I don't have to be that focused. And Spending time with friends i actually like in most cases, best example being Mass effect. Love the World and story and all the little lore drops in conversations and getting to know the characters i really enjoy because it really adds to the entire narrative.
I think it depends on the kind of game. Mass Effect is a shooter RPG and as such the "getting to know your crew" is a pretty important part of it, but in games like the mentioned GTA IV it kind of keeps you away from the fun part of the game. Especially because in ME it's mostly dialogue and missions to help the crew and get a new power (optional) in GTA IV you're kind of forced to go along with it.
Yeah, I really like the navigation aspect when exploring. And in Subnautica (one of the examples given) it makes the world feel much bigger. Before long you have beacons and a compass anyway and if you can't navigate with those maybe you just don't like exploration in a game. I do think a nice touch for some games would be to have, instead of a smart GPS app full of automarkers style minimap, instead have the in-game equivalent of a paper map (maybe even hand drawn and inaccurate) that you can pull up (full screen) and write notes and put markers on yourself as you find things. That would kind of be an in-game record you made yourself of places you'd been and things you'd discovered/encountered. Would really help when picking up a game after not playing for awhile and just being able to look back on your journey.
Yeah, it might be annoying, but the rain still works. It looks nice; it operates like rain should (although killing a roaring campfire would be basically a downpour for a good time, but then we're talking about not only a rain mechanic but gradient rain and well... we aren't there); and lightning from time to time to boot is just... so interesting. Damn, it's just hard to criticize much from BotW.
So many people still too stupid to climb in rain in BotW. I figured it out the first day playing. Yet years later millions upon millions of oblivious players. Ok here's the trick... Jumping up a climb causes you to slide down. Rain causes you to slide down every few moments. However, jumping you slide less than from rain. Didn't you ever notice this? So do you get it yet? Ok, basically every few movements in the rain, hit the jump and you will slide less than the rain will cause. Thus, you can scale anything, even in the rain. Just bring enough stamina. Now, was that so hard? Damn, people so dumb.
@@xagain3106 I never realized that, but what I did realize is how you can sometimes walk up cliffs or find small spots to rest on the side of a cliff by stopping climbing
One of the things that made me feel better about the first Evil With sprint mechanic is that I would think "running in a dream is harder than running IRL"
Forklift operator here......whoever was using that forklift in Shenmue was breaking a ton of OSHA laws. Lower them forks, son you're gonna have a rollover!!! 😂
I actually really enjoyed the "you have to train to jump higher" in Morrowind/Oblivion, as a kid it made the games even better as an RPG (building you character etc) like an unnessesary cherry on top
I thought it was insane that they used Morrowind as an example of limited jumping. Jump 100 was full on jumping over buildings! So much fun once you trained up.
Dude the greatest example is the marriage system in Fable. You’re gone for like three days and your wife will leave you or hate you lol 😂. Plus in the second game your wife will constantly nag you if they don’t move to another house. Also if I recall correctly I think she constantly takes a LOT of your gold in the second game. Yeah the relationship system in the fable games is extremely annoying.
Jep They want a good House, with good furniture, and at least 2,5K Gold a Day. You have to visit at least once per in game Week. And your in game Partner is medium Lv. happy with the marrige...
managing a brothel in Yakuza 0 is a good example on how it's done right. It helps the story move forward, has a super bonus at the end and serves to create connection with the characters.
Okay. Number 5 (spending time with friends) is something I really like to do and I'm glad some games have it. It is a feature more inclined to RPGs, but I really enjoy anything that makes me more immerse in the game's universe and my character's life. I understand why GTA IV got some harsh critiques around that. I really enjoy those little details in games, but I think it's best if it is not mandatory in some cases.
Only having a minimap but no large map overview (GTA 3, Midtown Madness) is probably what made me learn to navigate in the city so well. Look for clues, which street looks like what on the map, where is the north, where do I want to go. This kind of a transition between a completely mapless game and one with every bit of information shoven down the throat is nice balance but I see why people wouldn't like it
i really liked the realism mechanics in mafia ngl. i thought and still think its really cool how they put in pull over mechanics. i think just because you are a bad guy who wants to speed doesnt mean the police will ignore you because "oh its ok hes just a bad guy". it felt cool driving around normally knowing i was bouta get into a large gunfight at my destination but didnt wanna be cought and stuff like that. i didnt mind it
I think with mini maps, except maybe some exceptions, they should let people toggle them on or off. It sounds just be an option either way. Shouldn't have to wait for a mod to remove it. There's benefits to both approaches (true, of real life, too).
You could honestly make this entire list just with GTA V and RDR2 where rockstar chose to take many good features out for the sake of making the game more of a chore
Yeah they did it a bit inGTA 5, then repeatedly chose realism over fun or convenience in RDR 2. Its the reason I prefer RDR 1 even with as good as the sequel is.
In GTA IV i love how the devs knew it was annoying AF. So they had Roman call you to go bowling WHILE you are on the helicopter mission. And Niko is like "can't you hear the helicopter blades man??"
Any sort of stun mechanic on the main character is extremely annoying, especially if it usually leads to you just not moving while you stare at the screen while the enemies gank you
I liked basically all these mechanics in games, to me more realism just makes doing crazy stuff more fun. Traffic laws make driving around feel so much better.
No map in Subnautica was actually really imersive and nice throughout the story. After finishing the game it would be nice to get a feel of the whole map though. (Glad there are kings who made a map of the world)
What makes Subnautica amazing is the exploration. That feeling of going into the unknown and stumbling across amazing biomes. I downloaded a map mod and suddenly the game felt very small and predictable…
You know. Outta all my years since TH-cam was created. I have not ONCE seen a single channel mention “the getaway” from PS2 ever. This is the first channel & i am amazed.
I've got another one in the same vein as encumbrance, backpack/inventory space. All of the Diablo games are good examples of this. Where each item is a certain size and number of squares, potions being one square, spears being 4 squares, small shields taking up a 2x2 grid, etc.
In D1 (presumably only single player, but i never tried multi), you can drop stuff in town, and it remains there :D Probably wasn't intended from the dev's side though
The realism I want in games is interacting with npc’s more than 2 two lines of dialogue. Red dead 2 did it alright. And being able to interact with randoms things and not just picking them up but using them as they are intended in the real world
I recently started FFXiii: lighting returns. And I'm already starting to worry about the time limit that the game gives you. As an RPG game, I'm worried I won't level up fast enough to take on the stronger enemies if I just rush through the story
I've played Lightning Returns twice. The first time I made minimal use of a guide, and finished the main quest with a few days in hand. The second time I followed the guide closely, and finished the main quest on the third day, and most of the side quests by the sixth or seventh day. There's plenty of time if you know what you're doing. On the other hand ... a reviewer said something like "this is a world begging not just to be saved, but also to be *explored*," and constantly sweating over the hard deadline is no fun, and continually checking the guide to make sure you're on schedule isn't much fun either.
If you're a completionist, you'll need a guide. But even without one you should be able get high enough levels for the endgame. And while many may not appreciate it, the game does offer to let you restart with accumalated items and levels.
time limits really are the worst. in tyranny for example the game starts with a time limit. if you fail it, it's game over. you have to deliberately waste time to reach the limit, but you don't know that, so it's kind of stressful.
tyranny isn't necessarily the best example, since if you bumble around wasting time until after that limit before reading the edict, you'll have until the next one a full year later - which ties into the whole rules lawyering of the edicts in the rest of the plot.
I love Steambot chronicles. one of those games that's super short story line (if play straight thru) but padded out with tons of side missions. Played it years ago and still have my ps2 copy. It's always great hearing someone talk about it.
In GTA IV I never had that issue because if you agree to hang out, then call them back right away and cancel plans, you don't get any negative consequences and don't have to do the activity
On BOTW the first thing I got was stamina almost all maxed out cause I always climb a ton of stuff. That rain really got me very frustrated on some parts and I am very stubborn so no rain was gonna stop me from climbing that mountain, even if I have to spend an hour here climbing this side I will do it
I figured it out the first day playing. Yet years later millions upon millions of oblivious players. Ok here's the trick... Jumping up a climb causes you to slide down. Rain causes you to slide down every few moments. However, jumping you slide less than from rain. Didn't you ever notice this? Ok, basically every few movements in the rain, hit the jump and you will slide less than the rain will cause. Thus, you can scale anything, even in the rain. Just bring enough stamina.
@@xagain3106 not all places, there is one specific place I could not climb because it was real heavy rain, I made it most of the way up but I would slide down, you usually can recover your stamina if you find a place to run forward then jump back again and repeat. But that place near rito village around the Temple shrine close to those lizards is impossible to climb, I'll try it later again
Gonna add one: RE Village's inventory shuffling. It's one thing to have an inventory limit. It's another to have a grid where the player has to move things around on it like a lame puzzle just so bigger items can fit. The realism doesn't apply evenly, either. For example: I ran across some magnum ammo, but had too much stuff in my inventory to pick it up, EVEN though the ammo was immediately going to be loaded into the gun. If the devs are hung up on realism enough to make you rearrange your "suitcase" of items, then why can't you set an item down for two seconds while reloading?
10. that just boring. 9. game are meant to break rules. 8. hate doing that in real life and probably do in a video game. 7. i want to sprint like crazy. 6. it's only good for sport games. 5. same as #10. 4. rain ruins everything. 3. that's why i used god mode. 2. it just adds pressure. 1. quite annoying. bonuses - too realistic.
Well, the whole mission is completely different. I believe you don't even need to manually lift any boxes at all and everything is handled in a cutscene.
Operation Flashpoint was interesting in this regard. Enemies could be janky but once they knew you were around, they would keep looking. I actually found out the game had a day and night cycle because I spent soooo long hiding inside a tank during a botched stealth mission that the sun started to rise. At that point I just legged it, managed to not be seen by the crew of a BMP that happened to climb the hill beside me and made it to the mission endpoint, only to be scolded that I only destroyed one enemy vehicle. I think I had to re-do missions in that game more than in any other game before or since.
Cool story. Didn't play the original OF,but I did play "OF:Dragon Rising" & delayed at a mission so long,that the day turned to night,in similar fashion... That game series was hyper-realistic,compared to everything else around at the time... They should make a modern 1,that doesn't have all the bugs the series is famous for,tho... lol That was my only complaint(s) about OF:DR. There were lots of times where the enemies clipped/they could shoot thru objects. Other than that,GREAT game... :D -Peace
Most of these really add up to the immersion. Especially the time limit. I like to explore and experience that world that the developers spent countless hours designing! But the one thing I can think of that is really a burden instead of a feature is having to go back to complete something. I'm looking at you, new Tomb Raider installments! In the first few chapters there will always be a tomb, a door or a wall that you can't open/cross/climb because your equipment isn't fully upgraded yet and you have to go back later in the game. If I spent endless hours trying to complete all the different little challenges that each area has before I move on to the next, I don't wanna go back for the last little detail. It feels repetitive and worn out. Just give all the tools I need and a good enough challenge and I'll be happy to finish 100% of each area the first time!
This is quite a common thing that developers add so that they add a lot of "replayability" within your save file. Having to go back with better equipment and such makes it so that you play more of the game, obviously. It's as you said, these guys spent countless of hours designing these things. It's a standardized thing in LEGO games for example. Having to go back once you've unlocked a character so that you can go to an area an get that minikit. Personally, I don't dislike it. It really depends on the game though. Some can be really tedious. But in the end, unless you're forced to go back which a lot of games don't do, you can just skip it and do the main story and be happy with that as your playthrough. I think it's understandable and can be fun but it can also be abused and poorly implemented.
Actually you can climb when it is raining in BotW, provided you have Climbing Armor set and Energizing/Enduring Elixirs/Food! Sure it may be a pain to deal with, but I always saw it as a challenge! Additionally rain can be beneficial as Shock Arrows and electricity based attacks do double damage and produce a shockwave that can electrify nearby enemies! Also certain animals come out when it is raining such as Tireless Frogs and Bright-Eyed Crabs (Tireless Frogs can be used to make Enduring Elixirs while Bright-eyed crabs can be used to make energizing dishes or added as an additional ingredient in Energizing Elixirs!
It's so true. Not everything has to be realistic because we are trying to escape realism through video games to have fun like really a game has to be fun before being realistic. Great video👍.
@@baizuo_6246 that's true. But what I meant was Devs should prioritize fun over realism. If some realistic gameplay mechanics is fun then it should get implemented. Hey man I also like an immersive game okay but it shouldn't be annoying as some of the elements that were mentioned in the game as well as some others.
My #1 is absolutely limited inventory/encumbrance and weapon degradation. Even in games where they make sense and are arguably well balanced, I always bounce off it when I have deal with it. I can honestly say I would enjoy every game more without these two features.
The worst encumbrance I found was in H1Z1 (haven't played it in years so this might be out of date). You didn't have a carry weight, your clothes did. Even games known for unforgiving carry weights let you pick up a weapon or two in your back pocket. When I played H1Z1 it didn't have 'hardcore' weight limits, it went all in. You can fit a handful of 9mm rounds in your shirt pocket, maybe a few snacks in your jeans but that's it. Good luck finding a backpack though. The lack of carry capacity is 'balanced' by the scarcity of the loot, or at least it would be if you could actually carry the one item you found in two hours that wasn't nailed down.
Time limits are great, they put weight on everything. But then again, Majora's Mask for the N64 remains as one of my favorite games. The question, 'Can you save everyone in a single loop?' has haunted me for years.
I kind of liked the shenmue work aspect and for me it kind of felt fitting and immersive, like it was easy to get immersed in that, especially because it also controls like a tank. But i also kind of liked to play Viscera clean up detail in that time, my gosh that game really was work but that also makes it satifying. So i would say, the devs did great, adding that work aspect in shenmue IMHO.😊
reminds me of a very old game called "the dark heart of Uukrul", where weapon breakage was COMPLETELY RANDOM. EVERY time you used ANY weapon, there was a RANDOM chance it would break! AND magical weapons could not be fixed! seriously, i remember one time a magical sword break the FIRST TIME i used it! there's ONE exception: the unique "obsidian hammer" that is essential for defeating the final boss. you MUST strike the final blow with it or he will come back to life! and yes, it once broke on me during the battle, forcing me to start the whole dungeon over!
What U said reminded me of the Dead Island series... Especially,the more-advanced weapons & those U made using mods. The durability usually suffered,when U made a weapon cause more damage. I wish they would've let ppl decide for themselves,which attributes should be boosted & which should degrade... I would've preferred greater durability,for some weapons. Given,how much it would suffer,most of the time,from an upgrade... -Peace
Man.... About #7. I recently started running and I discovered that running is surprisingly difficult. It gave me a certain appreciation for games where your dude/dudette just goes out of breath after a 30 second sprint... But it also really made me hate them all that more, because, yeah. I already suck at running, I don't need a simulation to have that experience. Thanks, game.
I'm so used to jumps in games that when the character can't jump I feel really heavy even if it moves quickly. I love the dark souls series but not being able to jump at will (those run and then jump don't count) are a real pet peeve of mine. Also not having a minimap. A game I adore, Subnautica, I ended up looking at a map online and had it open all the time because while I love discovering stuff, I hate not being able to get back to it again just because. Yes those beacons exist but try to put more than 10 around the playable area and see how your screen looks. Games with no directive at all, ala Minecraft... well it's a love hate relationship with those, I love them for a short while, but I like knowing what I'm striving for, and not a self imposed challenge but a challenge given by the ones that designed the game. Yes you could say that the ender dragon is the endgame of the game but that was not the case when it began. I don't like when RPGs don't give you a way of tracking a % of completion. While some people adore the fact that they can come back to Skyrim 5 years later and still find new stuff to do, some of us are too anxious to leave a game unfinished like that, give me a way to know how close I am to 100% a game please.
I hate framing playing a game as "escapism". Y'all, art is special in a lot of ways, but viewing everything through the lens of "I need OUT of my day to day" is a weird and sad way to do it. And then voice that as if everyone else is on the same page. And then to use that as a justification to argue that games should just be goofy fun, and that any time the game world pushes back against you is wrong. Like it's ruining your attempt to pretend worldly frustration exists. It's like six layers of building an argument on top of a premise I was never on board with.
some games are so real that you have to pay real money within them
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True man
The best business model.
@@gameranxTV 9 of these are in tarkov.
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For all of the fantastical things in The Witcher 3, it really makes you respect realistic fall damage.
Yeah, after seeing Geralt’s leg get bent back and then his back broke and then ragdolled down a flight of stairs after missing one step, I’m am very cautious about walking down anything more than 5 inch drop now.
Which is dumb because in the novels he was seen having big falls without problem.
its unrealistic that a superhuman mutant cant survive a 5 meters fall tho
Spam roll when falling. You’ll almost always survive lol I got pissed and figured it out one day
Yea to much! Sure can fight two trolls and a nekker nest but damn can't jump from a roof LMAO
I hate time limits mostly because I'm extremely easily distracted and kinda slow at puzzles so it's real stressful
I think time limits can be fun but with todays media having the option to give options there should be an option to turn it off or make it different difficulties to choose from.
Im slow as a disabled snail at puzzle too, I do love solving them but It takes me time
time limits in video games
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time limits in gacha games
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@@Hopischwopi Nah. If the Developer wants you stressed because that is part of the mechanic and difficulty then shouldn't the developer keep want their vision is?
Adversely they could just make it so it times you and reward you based on the time, so you can still get the accomplishment for achieving victory and improving allows for a better reward so more incentive to get better.
@@DS-ld8ns there are different kinds of stress. If a game is advertised as stressfull I would already not buy it and in that case fair enough. But in general I am for accessibility and the developer are probably also interested in keeping the game fun for at least most players I hope. A certain kind of adrenaline and stress I am all there for but when it takes over and makes the game unenjoyable it would be nice to be able to have some kind of control.
For example the souls game. Their concept is to be super hard and at times frustrating which I get that`s why I don`t play them.
So in general I kinda agree but I also think it is nice when developers make their game open for a lot of people if their main focus isn`t totally wrecked. Puzzles can be hard if they are done good and maybe the option can be behind a barrier like "You have to try this puzzles at least 10 times before yo can turn off the timer." or something like that.
Oh man, Falcon was ON ONE for this video. Felt like he just kept going "Wait, pause the script, I've got my own rant here for a moment". And it was damn good too. Highly amusing. :)
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I HATE time limits, especially in open worlds or exploratory games. I want to venture and explore and a time limit completely negates that fun. Thats why a lot of people, including myself didn't play Majora's mask when it first came out. Exploring Hyrule was one of the best parts of OoT, so when I heard you only had 3 days I just didn't even take the time to check it out.
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I didn’t finish Majora’s Masks cause of that too. That sun staring me down took all the fun outta the game
The worst time limit was in Luigi mansion thankfully Nintendo realized it was bad and keep the time limit to the beta instead of the finish project
If your curious originally you have 24 hours to beat the game not in game hours but real life hours had to take a 6 hour nap cause your tires that 6 less hours you have to beat the game
They should add both.
I actually really like the realism of mafia’s traffic laws because it makes it realer and also if you go to fast on mafia you lose control
You know you have in a game 30 bullets in magazine and 90 reserve ammo, shoot once, reload (discard clip) and then you're left with 89 reserve ammo.
Mafia is not like that. You shoot once reload and the lose 29 precious tommy gun bullets because the almost full magazine was discarded on the ground. It's terrible, but i like taking risks, it's part of the experience.
Its fine with mafia 1 i just dont like the race car handling on classic mode for the remaster. Played the game on normal and liked it but on classic that cockblocked stopped me from getting my last achievement. Tried it for 5 days and im never allowing myself to get that mad at a videogame again.
Yeah this is the thing that mostly separated it from gta for me. Which I like
Amen.
i just pay the fine and keep on driving fast
Realism is a great addition to any game. But sometimes the devs take it a bit too far and it gets annoying 🤣
No it isnt
A bit realism never hurts as long it doesnt make games tedious
@@kiritsu551 "you have to go to bed and sleep 7 hours after taking your heart medication, sleep one hour over or under, then your character will experience a heart attack and won't be available for several months".
The Game.
@@VongolaXZax sounds funny ngl
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I really loved Falcon's energy in this video, he explained all the points with a certain high mood, which just made his point come across that much better.
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You sound like a paid bot Valorie
there must be a new lady in his life
Her breasts aren't realistic... But he doesn't care
I feel like that's what makes Gameranx so much more enjoyable to watch over other gaming channels. They're both entertaining and non-cynical. Despite often having some arguably CLICKBAITY or at least EYECATCHY titles that use absolute terms, the content within the videos never state opinions in an objective fashion. Falcon, Jake B, etc never come off like they know more than their audience. They just come off like they have their own opinion, and always phrase those opinions in an open-minded way.
One could argue this level of tolerance is an unchallenging, overly-neutral way to cover topics, but in a world where video game coverage is almost always sensationalized, I feel like there's merit in having a channel who represents gaming in a candid yet still passionate fashion. They aren't hype trains nor do they pretend to be journalists.
And, while I'm not gonna pretend like a lot of their content is substantial, it is a refreshing take and maybe a teensy weensy bit poignant in how it presents its junkfood content in a way that at least _sounds_ interested in itself, and not just a guy reading a script, pretending to care.
I honestly love the idea of GTA 4 hanging out with people, feels so cool that your phone is actual ringing and ppl want to hang out witchu
I agree, and some of the minigames were pretty good, like the pool one. And they also used the hangouts to have Nico talk to the other characters adding to the narrative.
Doesn't happen often in real life though, does it? xD
@@BjoernKP true so much extra story and lore was figured out just like in real life the more u hang with someone the tighter you get
If it didn't negatively impact the game and wasn't a constant nuisance, I'd agree. It was so bad I traded my copy in.
@itsmeflacko1618 Absolutely agreed. I love the hangouts in GTA IV primarily because there's so much character explored in the conversations you have with everyone that don't always come up in the story missions.
I love when the weather actually affects things, its so much more immersive
And often, if they do make it affect things, they'll have benefits too (such as stealth being easier when its raining)
I think developers sometimes confuse realism and immersion. Realism can help immersion, but too much realism hurts it, because it reminds you how tedious real life can be
7 days to die and stamina. Beginning couch potato. Valheim and it's rain.
i think "immersion" could be, defined at the top of my head, "figurative realism" as distinct from "literal". Seems it is easier not having to put in cumbers.
I like the duality you make between realism and immersion, but I don't understand your reason behind why too much realism hurts.
What I think is that too much realism may not be the answer for a game that wants to simulate and emulate a real-life activity, but the gameplay itself
It’s fine if realism ties into the game main gameplay loop. An example would be those animals in Far Cry 3. For RDR2, it provided 1 good and 1 bad example. Brushing and feeding horse is a fun detail because it’s quick, painless, and it also enhances the goal of the game: to make player have fun being a cowboy, and a cowboy needs to bond with their horse. Then, they have the animal carcass rotting. That’s realism, but it also makes that activity much less enjoyable because it doesn’t really enhance the feeling being a cowboy.
Well said
I love how especially within the last dozen of videos Falcon is becoming more and more animated as opposed to a monotone soulless husk. He's starting to remind me of Ryan George
I noticed that too especially in this video
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@@angelgu323 I was quoting Ryan George.
I love Falcon's unbridled frustration in this video
dude sounds like he has an axe to grind lol
Right!? My man went off. I don't know if maybe he had a couple wobbly pops or what it was, but I need more of it.
He sounds like a petulant little child.
The speed limiter in Mafia was just one of the things that added to its charm, and The Getaway is one of the most underrated games I’ve ever played.
I'm still holding out for getaway 3. It will come one day. Please
Realistics aspects of Mafia made you believe that story is also real. It was very immersive. Especially moving those boxes.
I kinda like that Subnautica doesn't have a mini-map, the beacons are usually enough to orient yourself, and eventually you get a good idea of where you are even without them.
The good old way of exploring and discovering landmarks by yourself
Exactly I’ve played enough of the game to know which direction everything is, and I have multiple beacons and outposts around the map to help with navigation
Is it just me or is there an unusual excitement in Falcon's voice today
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@@gameranxTV That's an emoji of an eagle.
@@Orange_Swirl Oh come on, it's not his fault!
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Oh it's not you. That boy found love or sumshit
For me, time limit missions in video games are the most pain in the ass mechanics. I absolutely hate time limits. I like to take my time, explore.
You can really tell he was really into this video. I can hear it in his voice. Quality content.
I actually really enjoy a lot of these things, like hanging out with friends in GTA and traffic laws in the Mafia games, and even realistic rain effects. All of that really helps with immersion and makes the worlds feel a lot more real.
Same, I like weight in Soul game, you actually carry what you need. Jumping, no problem when I play a special suit or special power, but if my character is a normal human, well jump should be limited. I love Tom Clancy Game realistic difficulty, yes it's not real life, real life when you die, you are done, but it's nice to be really careful because one bullet your are done. So most of this mechanic, I like them, but I guess I like realistic game but it's not for everyone else.
What I hate in games is when they do something like drop an invisible time limit on you, when literally every other mission in the game doesn't penalize you for taking your time, you'll go from doing sidequests and exploring to suddenly "oops you have irreversibly ruined this save file 17 hours into the game".
I think Shenmue 1 does that. If you don't do what you're supposed to in some game months, the chinese guy that killed Ryu's father (I forgot his name) comes to your house and kills you. At least that's what I read somewhere.
I hate playing a game and the character can’t climb. It’s super frustrating
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What?? Not every game needs to be uncharted or breath of the wild
@@amon__7187 Are you really that dense?
If an obstacle is something nearly everyone can climb but the game characters can’t, then you will run into problems.
@@JACpotatos are u?
hot take: the speed limit in mafia made the game more immersive and how realistic the game was, it really pulled me into the world. Just beat it remaster, so good.
I 100% agree. I beat the remaster of 1 when it came out and just beat mafia 2 again. Ones still my favorite. I guess I'll try 3 again I didn't like it and stopped playing after like 6-8 hours.
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I kinda hated it. I mean, I DO remember it and I thought it was an interesting convention… but I was already at ‘uhh, when can I go supervillain mode?’, which Mafia was a slow boil… so went back to the insanity of Saints Row as I didn’t really have a lot of time to play back then.
I need to go back and give Mafia another shot. That said, IRL, I’ve been pulled over maybe three times? In like 20+ years of driving. Not every other block. Seemed like the cops were on every street corner with nothing better to do than to chase you down for doing 5 over. 🤷🏻♂️
Morrowind STARTS with your character only being able to do little hops, but your Acrobatics skill determined how high you could jump, as well as your carry weight. If you weren't weighed down by a ton of items and had a high Acrobatics skill, you could jump on to and across rooftops. You basically turn super human. But, of course, no one ever has an empty inventory in Morrowind, unless they're just starting the game.
Yeah i remember maxing out acrobatics and using the boots of blinding with the gamma turned right up, i was in the air for for so much time near the end, zooming everywhere. Loved the jumping coupled with the polygon glitch in that game too, making mountain climbing fun
reminds me of the silly gag item: some magic scrolls that let you jump absurdly high...BUT you would die from Fall Damage unless you also had a Levitate spell handy.
Even right where his character is in the footage here is close to Tarhiel and the Scrolls of Icarian Flight. Doing all that complaining about wimpy jumping when he could fortify his acrobatics like 1000 and fly across the map.
I actually like when you get a chance to just hang out and do random stuff with characters in a game. Frankly wish you could do more of that in Cyberpunk. Some of the most fun stuff for me that also makes the decision making at the end more impactful is just stuff you do getting to know various characters like Pyramid Song, or breaking into a drive in for a goofy date with Rogue.
1:43 I actually liked the moving boxes part in Mafia because it was used to highlight how monotonous the job is and makes Vito's reaction so much more relatable and believable
This is the most energy I've ever seen out of The Falcon
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It's not too much of an issue these days, but I'm always irked by games that don't have in-game help sections regarding controls, tutorials, etc. Similarly, games that don't have some sort of log to keep track of your objectives. Sometimes I just need to leave a game for awhile to play other things, but then finally coming back to it can be really intimidating if I need to scrape together information about what I've been doing and how to do certain things.
My only real complaint about elden ring. The story was so minimal and convoluting, it would have made a huge difference to be able to easily track and go back to information you found.
@@gettindickered on pc, ER tells you console controls. For to not everything being configurable done controls remain a mystery. It's there a digital manual? No, wtf! I guess it doesn't matter to those who have played Souls games before, but I stopped playing, because my 8bitdo I know where it is has stick drift (it's more of a on the go flat less ergo controller, or the SNES PS clones people think of) and if I dig out a PS controller, then I have to screw with pc set up, maybe a lithium ion battery replacement, which makes me appreciate Xbox AA. Do I do all that, no, I play something else.
That's before all the, bring a notebook and keep it organized aspects (which I miss some of that, sometimes) of ER, you're taking about.
@@gettindickered I dont see how you could possibly complete some of those side quests without some sort of assistance.
Bloodborne is probably my favourite game of all time, and one of the biggest gripes i have with it is their "help" tooltips in the menu. Like... i get it, it's not meant to spoon feed you everything, but in that and also DS3 at least, some of the things in the menu are so ill-defined or poorly explained that it makes it hard to even know what they do. For example, the "deep" status effect in DS3. When you go to the help tip for that item it simply tells you it allows you to imbue a weapon with "deep" status, and in the defence it just tells you what deep is effective/ineffective against. There's nowhere where it tells you what deep actually IS, what it does to enemies and how it works. And its the same for anything that isnt self explanatory by name.
aww baby wants his hand held? wittwe baby scawed... 😭
When GTA4 came out, I had a friend who thought I was really into bowling because I called him every day to ask if he wanted to go bowling as soon as he got off work or was mid-way through something. This went on for about 2 years.
That's got to be 1 of the most clever specific-game-related,inside-jokes of all time! Also,1 of the longest-running(that's an incredible amount of effort,on your part)!
It sounds like he didn't know about that part in GTA4. Or,he didn't play/watch GTA4. So,didn't/wouldn't get the joke on ANY level... XD
What was his response,when U kept asking for 2 whole years???
He had to start losing patience or something,after the 1st year... xD
Hilarious idea,btw! 1 of the funniest/least harmful pranks I've ever heard of! :D
-Peace
It is good to be reminded of the stuff that sucks in reality, it gives you an opportunity to reflect over life.
They show you that even the Main Character / The Hero has to do or does mundane but often necessary stuff.
I like that Falcon is actually being "emotional" in this video. Really shows his range as a voice lol.
Just finished playing the Deus Ex series. The first always cracked me up when you damage both legs and have to crawl around the map if you don't heal. But when you talk to other characters it shows JC jumping up from the ground to stand up and carry on a conversation before lying back down to crawl again... that game is still a masterpiece 22 years later... lol
I just bought the 2nd one cant wait to play it
@@tonyphills6075 the original and Human Revolution were the best!
Actually i like some of the chore stuff you talked about, like hanging out with friends in GTAIV. Besides being realistic, makes you feel like living another life in another world, with another friends, etc.
Hey Nico, it's Roman, your cousin. Let's go bowling!
@@Mc_Lovin-nd6cl Sorry Roman, i can't go bowling right now. I'm in the middle of something.
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gta 4 was the best imo
it makes me think of Mass Effect. Like hell yeah, I'll spend time with my squadmates!
3:10 yes, Mafia is surprisingly accurate to how cars of that era drive. I would say they're honestly a little controllable. Also needing to learn to drive the cars in that game is a real thing too. Model Ts didn't have a gas pedal for instance, the throttle was a lever on the steering wheel because why not give your hands one more thing to account for when coming to a stop 🤷
This was because they hadn't figured out to run the throttle cables yet etc. They are great to work on since so gd simple. Lol
Model t came out in 1908, "why not give your hands one more thing to account for when coming to a stop" I'm all that time we have basically replaced the throttle lever with the mobile phone, cos that's always in people's hands when at a stop light!
Same with Mafia II. I'm an old gearhead, have worked on more than a few cars from the 40s, and the car that's basically a 1940 Willys roadster handles surprisingly like the real thing, down to the punishing understeer.
Time specific tasks might be the most annoying game mechanic. I can't do this thing until 2 PM, and it's noon, so I have to stand around for 2 in game hours. At least have a wait feature if you're going to do that.
Worth mentioning re the very last one - in many games, even ones that have minimap by default, disabling it adds enormous level of immersion... and sometimes challenge. Thinking GR Wildlands specifically for example.
That said - I understand if people want to simply go marker to marker, and don't enjoy planning their trip before embarking. If anything, I think it'd be the best if most (all?) games had minimap/radar, but make it possible to switch it off for those that want it.
This is the most animated I've ever heard Falcon get. I'm here for it
i was literally about to comment that and wanted to see if anyone noticed lmao. im here for it as well.
My man does get wild here. Lol
Lol, almost everyone had that "oh, this is so realistic" feeling when they first played Shemmue, then a couple of hours later it's trying to find the reasons to continue on. 😂
Sailors gave me strength
My real-life job when it came out was driving a forklift - Made it very hard to get motivated...
@2:25 Yakuza 5 has the most stern driving sections by far. Indicate, don't start or stop too fast, watch the traffic lights etc. I almost quit the game even though those sections were optional.
Having just finished that stuff in the past three days, I don't get the frustration. It was in short bursts, there wasn't a ton of them, and there was at least the dialogue management while you did it. To each their own, though.
Those pedestrians running into the side of my taxi were complete nonsense though.
@@IAMMegamanX7 I first played it 10 years ago, after waiting 3 years for a new Yakuza game I didn't expect to be playing a cab simulator and highway racer. I appreciate it far more now though, remastered (without the PS3 load times).
@@XanderCrease That's fair. I've had a completely different experience, as I just started the series recently. The amount of time between Y4 being uninstalled and Y5 being installed was about 10 minutes, and I"m on PC, which i can imagine loads way, way faster.
I actually like a lot of these things. Some of the more monotone things like cleaning in a Game because I can watch Netflix, Crunchyroll or TH-cam because I don't have to be that focused. And Spending time with friends i actually like in most cases, best example being Mass effect. Love the World and story and all the little lore drops in conversations and getting to know the characters i really enjoy because it really adds to the entire narrative.
I think it depends on the kind of game. Mass Effect is a shooter RPG and as such the "getting to know your crew" is a pretty important part of it, but in games like the mentioned GTA IV it kind of keeps you away from the fun part of the game. Especially because in ME it's mostly dialogue and missions to help the crew and get a new power (optional) in GTA IV you're kind of forced to go along with it.
@@tpyntavyk5552 yeah but this is pretty generalized here.
Yeah, I really like the navigation aspect when exploring. And in Subnautica (one of the examples given) it makes the world feel much bigger. Before long you have beacons and a compass anyway and if you can't navigate with those maybe you just don't like exploration in a game.
I do think a nice touch for some games would be to have, instead of a smart GPS app full of automarkers style minimap, instead have the in-game equivalent of a paper map (maybe even hand drawn and inaccurate) that you can pull up (full screen) and write notes and put markers on yourself as you find things. That would kind of be an in-game record you made yourself of places you'd been and things you'd discovered/encountered. Would really help when picking up a game after not playing for awhile and just being able to look back on your journey.
@@rasctaLike a more manual version of the Breath of the Wild/Tears of the Kingdom map.
Razbuten: minimaps are too useful.
Falcon: having no minimap sucks.
Place your bets.
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This is one of the best vids I've seen by Falcon. Absolutely hilarious! 😂
Thanks -falcon
@@gameranxTV buy jake a bag of salt
As annoying as rain is in BoTW, I love the rain mechanics. It feels so cool.
Yeah and the thing I hate worse than not being able to climb is not being able to use metal weapons or shields(But the lightning is so cool too lol)
Yeah, it might be annoying, but the rain still works. It looks nice; it operates like rain should (although killing a roaring campfire would be basically a downpour for a good time, but then we're talking about not only a rain mechanic but gradient rain and well... we aren't there); and lightning from time to time to boot is just... so interesting. Damn, it's just hard to criticize much from BotW.
So many people still too stupid to climb in rain in BotW. I figured it out the first day playing. Yet years later millions upon millions of oblivious players.
Ok here's the trick...
Jumping up a climb causes you to slide down.
Rain causes you to slide down every few moments.
However, jumping you slide less than from rain.
Didn't you ever notice this? So do you get it yet?
Ok, basically every few movements in the rain, hit the jump and you will slide less than the rain will cause. Thus, you can scale anything, even in the rain. Just bring enough stamina.
Now, was that so hard?
Damn, people so dumb.
@@xagain3106 I never realized that, but what I did realize is how you can sometimes walk up cliffs or find small spots to rest on the side of a cliff by stopping climbing
One of the things that made me feel better about the first Evil With sprint mechanic is that I would think "running in a dream is harder than running IRL"
Forklift operator here......whoever was using that forklift in Shenmue was breaking a ton of OSHA laws. Lower them forks, son you're gonna have a rollover!!! 😂
I actually really enjoyed the "you have to train to jump higher" in Morrowind/Oblivion, as a kid it made the games even better as an RPG (building you character etc) like an unnessesary cherry on top
I thought it was insane that they used Morrowind as an example of limited jumping. Jump 100 was full on jumping over buildings! So much fun once you trained up.
Dude the greatest example is the marriage system in Fable. You’re gone for like three days and your wife will leave you or hate you lol 😂. Plus in the second game your wife will constantly nag you if they don’t move to another house. Also if I recall correctly I think she constantly takes a LOT of your gold in the second game. Yeah the relationship system in the fable games is extremely annoying.
Well, at least they made it a realistic relationship experience 🤣
@@aBadWizard lol 😂😆
Jep
They want a good House, with good furniture, and at least 2,5K Gold a Day.
You have to visit at least once per in game Week.
And your in game Partner is medium Lv. happy with the marrige...
managing a brothel in Yakuza 0 is a good example on how it's done right. It helps the story move forward, has a super bonus at the end and serves to create connection with the characters.
I would lose hours doing that!
It was amazing! I was sad when it was over.
Okay. Number 5 (spending time with friends) is something I really like to do and I'm glad some games have it. It is a feature more inclined to RPGs, but I really enjoy anything that makes me more immerse in the game's universe and my character's life. I understand why GTA IV got some harsh critiques around that. I really enjoy those little details in games, but I think it's best if it is not mandatory in some cases.
Only having a minimap but no large map overview (GTA 3, Midtown Madness) is probably what made me learn to navigate in the city so well. Look for clues, which street looks like what on the map, where is the north, where do I want to go. This kind of a transition between a completely mapless game and one with every bit of information shoven down the throat is nice balance but I see why people wouldn't like it
i really liked the realism mechanics in mafia ngl. i thought and still think its really cool how they put in pull over mechanics. i think just because you are a bad guy who wants to speed doesnt mean the police will ignore you because "oh its ok hes just a bad guy". it felt cool driving around normally knowing i was bouta get into a large gunfight at my destination but didnt wanna be cought and stuff like that. i didnt mind it
I think with mini maps, except maybe some exceptions, they should let people toggle them on or off. It sounds just be an option either way. Shouldn't have to wait for a mod to remove it. There's benefits to both approaches (true, of real life, too).
Google Maps on a phone is basically a real life mini-map anyways, so the realism excuse isn't really true anymore.
You could honestly make this entire list just with GTA V and RDR2 where rockstar chose to take many good features out for the sake of making the game more of a chore
Yeah they did it a bit inGTA 5, then repeatedly chose realism over fun or convenience in RDR 2. Its the reason I prefer RDR 1 even with as good as the sequel is.
Realism is basically what makes me love games the most.
Video game about playing a video game.
Agree. I love when games simulate the realism of a situation I can't first-hand experience.
In GTA IV i love how the devs knew it was annoying AF. So they had Roman call you to go bowling WHILE you are on the helicopter mission. And Niko is like "can't you hear the helicopter blades man??"
8:20 - The instant he said "spending time with friends" the words "Niko! My cousin!" escaped from the quarantined section of my brain.
Any sort of stun mechanic on the main character is extremely annoying, especially if it usually leads to you just not moving while you stare at the screen while the enemies gank you
Those are just one shots but with delay.
I liked basically all these mechanics in games, to me more realism just makes doing crazy stuff more fun. Traffic laws make driving around feel so much better.
I agree. I appreciate games that are over the top and games that are more grounded.
I like Falcon’s energy in this video 😂
>"You can't change the direction of your jump in Castlevania"
>Shows footage of Dawn of Sorrow, which is a game where that's completely possible
4:19 Fun fact: In Russian the word "chort" refers to a demon that (among other things) can became really unpleasant, if left unattended.
Falcon sounded like he had a lot of fun with this one.
Falcon seems like he’s in a good and energetic mood in this video lol
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No map in Subnautica was actually really imersive and nice throughout the story. After finishing the game it would be nice to get a feel of the whole map though. (Glad there are kings who made a map of the world)
What makes Subnautica amazing is the exploration. That feeling of going into the unknown and stumbling across amazing biomes. I downloaded a map mod and suddenly the game felt very small and predictable…
You know. Outta all my years since TH-cam was created. I have not ONCE seen a single channel mention “the getaway” from PS2 ever. This is the first channel & i am amazed.
I've got another one in the same vein as encumbrance, backpack/inventory space. All of the Diablo games are good examples of this. Where each item is a certain size and number of squares, potions being one square, spears being 4 squares, small shields taking up a 2x2 grid, etc.
In D1 (presumably only single player, but i never tried multi), you can drop stuff in town, and it remains there :D
Probably wasn't intended from the dev's side though
The realism I want in games is interacting with npc’s more than 2 two lines of dialogue. Red dead 2 did it alright.
And being able to interact with randoms things and not just picking them up but using them as they are intended in the real world
I recently started FFXiii: lighting returns. And I'm already starting to worry about the time limit that the game gives you. As an RPG game, I'm worried I won't level up fast enough to take on the stronger enemies if I just rush through the story
Well now I hesitate to play this one and I'm a final fantasy fanatic.
I hated the time limit thing I like to explore and look for stuff and a time limit just makes it seem like I can't
I've played Lightning Returns twice. The first time I made minimal use of a guide, and finished the main quest with a few days in hand. The second time I followed the guide closely, and finished the main quest on the third day, and most of the side quests by the sixth or seventh day. There's plenty of time if you know what you're doing.
On the other hand ... a reviewer said something like "this is a world begging not just to be saved, but also to be *explored*," and constantly sweating over the hard deadline is no fun, and continually checking the guide to make sure you're on schedule isn't much fun either.
Lightning returns? My sympathies.
If you're a completionist, you'll need a guide. But even without one you should be able get high enough levels for the endgame. And while many may not appreciate it, the game does offer to let you restart with accumalated items and levels.
To be honest, I love these kind of "realism" gameplays even though I can be easily annoyed, I dunno maybe because I love torturing myself 😂
Starts by saying "these things are okay in simulation games" and ends up pointing out cleaning in Sims games :V So coherent!
Side note besides the video, you sound genuinely well Mr. Falcon. It warms my heart hearing you sound so happy and positive.
What’s up guys!!!! I was really engaged on this one! Lol
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Did you finish bud?
time limits really are the worst. in tyranny for example the game starts with a time limit. if you fail it, it's game over. you have to deliberately waste time to reach the limit, but you don't know that, so it's kind of stressful.
tyranny isn't necessarily the best example, since if you bumble around wasting time until after that limit before reading the edict, you'll have until the next one a full year later - which ties into the whole rules lawyering of the edicts in the rest of the plot.
An unpleasant but necessary task.
Damn, I mean it's a bit harsh but it perfectly describes chores.
I love Steambot chronicles. one of those games that's super short story line (if play straight thru) but padded out with tons of side missions. Played it years ago and still have my ps2 copy. It's always great hearing someone talk about it.
In GTA IV I never had that issue because if you agree to hang out, then call them back right away and cancel plans, you don't get any negative consequences and don't have to do the activity
Real time damage to your character in GTAV is cool, but can look ridiculous when you're covered in bullet holes and still running around.
They're, speed holes. They make the character run faster.
I love how Counter-Strike 1.6 gave you so much freedom of movement in the air with the strafe mechanic.
On BOTW the first thing I got was stamina almost all maxed out cause I always climb a ton of stuff. That rain really got me very frustrated on some parts and I am very stubborn so no rain was gonna stop me from climbing that mountain, even if I have to spend an hour here climbing this side I will do it
I figured it out the first day playing. Yet years later millions upon millions of oblivious players.
Ok here's the trick...
Jumping up a climb causes you to slide down.
Rain causes you to slide down every few moments.
However, jumping you slide less than from rain.
Didn't you ever notice this?
Ok, basically every few movements in the rain, hit the jump and you will slide less than the rain will cause. Thus, you can scale anything, even in the rain. Just bring enough stamina.
@@xagain3106 not all places, there is one specific place I could not climb because it was real heavy rain, I made it most of the way up but I would slide down, you usually can recover your stamina if you find a place to run forward then jump back again and repeat. But that place near rito village around the Temple shrine close to those lizards is impossible to climb, I'll try it later again
Gonna add one: RE Village's inventory shuffling. It's one thing to have an inventory limit. It's another to have a grid where the player has to move things around on it like a lame puzzle just so bigger items can fit. The realism doesn't apply evenly, either. For example: I ran across some magnum ammo, but had too much stuff in my inventory to pick it up, EVEN though the ammo was immediately going to be loaded into the gun. If the devs are hung up on realism enough to make you rearrange your "suitcase" of items, then why can't you set an item down for two seconds while reloading?
10. that just boring.
9. game are meant to break rules.
8. hate doing that in real life and probably do in a video game.
7. i want to sprint like crazy.
6. it's only good for sport games.
5. same as #10.
4. rain ruins everything.
3. that's why i used god mode.
2. it just adds pressure.
1. quite annoying.
bonuses - too realistic.
I'm pretty sure they fixed the mission in Mafia where you move the boxes. In Mafia: Definitive Edition you just had to move one box if i'm not wrong.
Well, the whole mission is completely different. I believe you don't even need to manually lift any boxes at all and everything is handled in a cutscene.
@@Agreel Yeah I think your right you just find it and cutscene handles the rest.
Operation Flashpoint was interesting in this regard. Enemies could be janky but once they knew you were around, they would keep looking. I actually found out the game had a day and night cycle because I spent soooo long hiding inside a tank during a botched stealth mission that the sun started to rise. At that point I just legged it, managed to not be seen by the crew of a BMP that happened to climb the hill beside me and made it to the mission endpoint, only to be scolded that I only destroyed one enemy vehicle. I think I had to re-do missions in that game more than in any other game before or since.
Cool story. Didn't play the original OF,but I did play "OF:Dragon Rising" & delayed at a mission so long,that the day turned to night,in similar fashion...
That game series was hyper-realistic,compared to everything else around at the time...
They should make a modern 1,that doesn't have all the bugs the series is famous for,tho... lol
That was my only complaint(s) about OF:DR. There were lots of times where the enemies clipped/they could shoot thru objects. Other than that,GREAT game... :D
-Peace
Gameranx never talk about arma, maybe they don't pay em or they can't play it
Great list! But what about limited breath under water. Damn it limits exploration in some games.
Most of these really add up to the immersion. Especially the time limit. I like to explore and experience that world that the developers spent countless hours designing!
But the one thing I can think of that is really a burden instead of a feature is having to go back to complete something. I'm looking at you, new Tomb Raider installments! In the first few chapters there will always be a tomb, a door or a wall that you can't open/cross/climb because your equipment isn't fully upgraded yet and you have to go back later in the game. If I spent endless hours trying to complete all the different little challenges that each area has before I move on to the next, I don't wanna go back for the last little detail. It feels repetitive and worn out. Just give all the tools I need and a good enough challenge and I'll be happy to finish 100% of each area the first time!
This is quite a common thing that developers add so that they add a lot of "replayability" within your save file. Having to go back with better equipment and such makes it so that you play more of the game, obviously. It's as you said, these guys spent countless of hours designing these things. It's a standardized thing in LEGO games for example. Having to go back once you've unlocked a character so that you can go to an area an get that minikit. Personally, I don't dislike it. It really depends on the game though. Some can be really tedious. But in the end, unless you're forced to go back which a lot of games don't do, you can just skip it and do the main story and be happy with that as your playthrough. I think it's understandable and can be fun but it can also be abused and poorly implemented.
Actually you can climb when it is raining in BotW, provided you have Climbing Armor set and Energizing/Enduring Elixirs/Food! Sure it may be a pain to deal with, but I always saw it as a challenge! Additionally rain can be beneficial as Shock Arrows and electricity based attacks do double damage and produce a shockwave that can electrify nearby enemies! Also certain animals come out when it is raining such as Tireless Frogs and Bright-Eyed Crabs (Tireless Frogs can be used to make Enduring Elixirs while Bright-eyed crabs can be used to make energizing dishes or added as an additional ingredient in Energizing Elixirs!
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It's so true. Not everything has to be realistic because we are trying to escape realism through video games to have fun like really a game has to be fun before being realistic. Great video👍.
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Some want to escape to another realistic life
@@baizuo_6246 that's true. But what I meant was Devs should prioritize fun over realism. If some realistic gameplay mechanics is fun then it should get implemented. Hey man I also like an immersive game okay but it shouldn't be annoying as some of the elements that were mentioned in the game as well as some others.
@@mohammadashikurrahman7530 yeah I get it
My #1 is absolutely limited inventory/encumbrance and weapon degradation. Even in games where they make sense and are arguably well balanced, I always bounce off it when I have deal with it. I can honestly say I would enjoy every game more without these two features.
Weapon degradation sucks mainly because is unrealistically quick
I like the Postal 2 formula, where the mundane tasks are intentionally designed to irritate you until you snap
The worst encumbrance I found was in H1Z1 (haven't played it in years so this might be out of date). You didn't have a carry weight, your clothes did. Even games known for unforgiving carry weights let you pick up a weapon or two in your back pocket. When I played H1Z1 it didn't have 'hardcore' weight limits, it went all in. You can fit a handful of 9mm rounds in your shirt pocket, maybe a few snacks in your jeans but that's it. Good luck finding a backpack though. The lack of carry capacity is 'balanced' by the scarcity of the loot, or at least it would be if you could actually carry the one item you found in two hours that wasn't nailed down.
Time limits are great, they put weight on everything. But then again, Majora's Mask for the N64 remains as one of my favorite games. The question, 'Can you save everyone in a single loop?' has haunted me for years.
That question has been answered. Look up one cycle speed runs
This is the first game that came to mind when he said time limits
I kind of liked the shenmue work aspect and for me it kind of felt fitting and immersive, like it was easy to get immersed in that, especially because it also controls like a tank. But i also kind of liked to play Viscera clean up detail in that time, my gosh that game really was work but that also makes it satifying. So i would say, the devs did great, adding that work aspect in shenmue IMHO.😊
Agreed
You forgot to mention weapon durability. Finding a great weapon, only for it to break or need to be repaired constantly.
reminds me of a very old game called "the dark heart of Uukrul", where weapon breakage was COMPLETELY RANDOM.
EVERY time you used ANY weapon, there was a RANDOM chance it would break!
AND magical weapons could not be fixed!
seriously, i remember one time a magical sword break the FIRST TIME i used it!
there's ONE exception: the unique "obsidian hammer" that is essential for defeating the final boss.
you MUST strike the final blow with it or he will come back to life!
and yes, it once broke on me during the battle, forcing me to start the whole dungeon over!
What U said reminded me of the Dead Island series...
Especially,the more-advanced weapons & those U made using mods. The durability usually suffered,when U made a weapon cause more damage. I wish they would've let ppl decide for themselves,which attributes should be boosted & which should degrade...
I would've preferred greater durability,for some weapons. Given,how much it would suffer,most of the time,from an upgrade...
-Peace
Man.... About #7. I recently started running and I discovered that running is surprisingly difficult. It gave me a certain appreciation for games where your dude/dudette just goes out of breath after a 30 second sprint... But it also really made me hate them all that more, because, yeah. I already suck at running, I don't need a simulation to have that experience. Thanks, game.
With the doing chores part, Mario Sunshine has cleaning and do mean LOTS of cleaning. Talk about doing something you dont really want to do.
Falcon's passion came THROUGH on this video, haha. I felt those Breath of the Wild bars 😁
I'm so used to jumps in games that when the character can't jump I feel really heavy even if it moves quickly.
I love the dark souls series but not being able to jump at will (those run and then jump don't count) are a real pet peeve of mine.
Also not having a minimap. A game I adore, Subnautica, I ended up looking at a map online and had it open all the time because while I love discovering stuff, I hate not being able to get back to it again just because. Yes those beacons exist but try to put more than 10 around the playable area and see how your screen looks.
Games with no directive at all, ala Minecraft... well it's a love hate relationship with those, I love them for a short while, but I like knowing what I'm striving for, and not a self imposed challenge but a challenge given by the ones that designed the game. Yes you could say that the ender dragon is the endgame of the game but that was not the case when it began.
I don't like when RPGs don't give you a way of tracking a % of completion. While some people adore the fact that they can come back to Skyrim 5 years later and still find new stuff to do, some of us are too anxious to leave a game unfinished like that, give me a way to know how close I am to 100% a game please.
i think that the rain mechanics in zelda are amazing
Good thing OSHA hasn't seen that Shenmue gameplay, dude's got the forks all the way up driving with a load on it
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I hate framing playing a game as "escapism". Y'all, art is special in a lot of ways, but viewing everything through the lens of "I need OUT of my day to day" is a weird and sad way to do it. And then voice that as if everyone else is on the same page. And then to use that as a justification to argue that games should just be goofy fun, and that any time the game world pushes back against you is wrong. Like it's ruining your attempt to pretend worldly frustration exists. It's like six layers of building an argument on top of a premise I was never on board with.