I'ma be honest, I find a lot of these ideas actually cool, I think it's more weird than dumb besides that swole Darth Vader because it is really dumb 😂
There are some of these concepts that I certainly approve of. Not so much White-Suit Vader or similar designs, but I like the thought of characters in the opposite role of what they were in the movies.
@@Dragon359 white suit Vader actually comes from the Star Wars infinity comic books (a what if retelling of the original trilogy) where he comes back redeemed and yoda fuckin drives the Death Star into courascant killing everybody just to end the emperor once and for all. It’s so stupid and amazing. But just so you know the three comics aren’t a single narrative it’s just a what if for each respective movie. I still recommend checking em out just for the lols
But I would prefer it to be clash of some dimensions: OG heroes and villains meet their versions who switched sides + the third dimension is where Vader becomes the emperor, Grievous isn't a cyborg and Leia is a Jedi instead of Luke etc. I think a game like Battlefront should have this concept as a base for it.
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б ehhh nah. I'd be okay if it was set in the future where you the main character is a historian or something and discover artifacts from the OG timeline that kickstarts a journey
I would love a game that's all about playing an original, completely non-canon character, and just completely messing up the timeline. Jedi, Sith, bounty hunter, Nightsister, whatever the case. Hell, maybe you could change class throughout the game. Choose whether or not to be Force-sensitive yourself, choose a date to start from, maybe choose your starting age (probably couldn't go lower than eight), your homeworld, and then it just puts you somewhere based on what you started with, and then you just go from there. Get discovered by the Order, turn to the Dark Side, team up with Jango... Maybe you could even play as a clone, and you have to find out about the loyalty chip in order to fight against its power. That is to say, you wouldn't be able to change anything your character doesn't know about. If you're a rich Tatooinian during TPM for example, you'd have to actually know about Jinn & Kenobi's disputes with Watto in order to fund the hyperdrive replacement. Maybe you're going about your business and you happen to overhear them going "Credits will do fine." and "No, they won't!" You could be screwed out of various opportunities by just never finding out in-character why you should go do something. For example, if you're still a Padawan during RotS, you probably wouldn't be able to just wander up to a Council member and hear about their arrest of Palpatine, so you would never find out that they needed help. Unless, I suppose, you have a high enough Force-related parameter to feel yourself needed at the Chancellor's Office. This would be the same way you would need to see Order 66 coming, unless you were at the Temple and you have the perfect stat build to beat Vader (even if you don't kill him - maybe he can still flee) or if you have the wherewithal to not even be noticed by him and just fight your way through the 501st to escape yourself (or just hide until Yoda & Obi-Wan arrive). Maybe during the fall of the Empire, you can meet Djarin and help raise The Child.
Right? This guy was trying to give an original backstory to why light or dark switched sides while mocking the entire thing. But even his quick comments on a lot of them could be a good starting point. And honestly with Star Wars and Marvel being owned by Disney, I’m sure we’ll see the Multiverse play into this alternative timeline eventually.
THAAANK YOU! Was looking for this. Playing it up for the video is fine, but its frustrating when he’s mocking a REQUIRED brainstorming part of the production process like this.
Did not think these ideas were stupid at all. I think most of the, except swol Vader, could have fit rather well into an alternate timeline. Also white armour Vader was the armour he was first envisioned to wear in the films before it was changed.
Not sure how the concept of light/dark side swap is “dumb”, but it’s kind of a cool idea in my opinion 🤷🏻♂️ and a real shame we never got Battlefront 3 and 4 honestly. Oh and RIP to that Darth Maul game we never got 🥺 and 1313
@@dragonborn4405 he’s smacking down concepts and calling them ridiculous, there’s like 3 jokes through the video and the rest is him just saying “seriously?” And “why would they think of this?” Like sure a lot of it is weird and doesnt follow the official story, but it’s concept art. It’s the “what would happen if...” for designs
@@jeraldchang2499 learn the definition of humor and jokes, hes joking throughout the video and giving his OPINION,thats what this whole video is genius
I dont think this guy understands what concept art is, there is concept art of link as a biker guy for breath of the wild, and I dont need to tell you how good that game was
Idk why it pops up in my head so often, but Anakin in the chamber with the younglings...What about it, you ask? Instead of killing them, he remembers that he's going to be a dad soon and he begins thinking "will I have to kill my own child?" or something along the lines of they see him as an older brother/father figure and it just tears him up. Stays his blade and begins to help defend the temple and evac some of the Jedi before escaping to fight Palpatine later for his sins
I'd kill for some Star Wars books or comics that look at some "What if?" Scenarios such as: Luke joining Vader in Episode 5,Anakin winning the duel with on Mustafar,Qui-Gon surviving Episode 1 and so much more. I'd love it as just a little bit of Non-Canon fun that looks at potential alternative timelines
Star wars infinites covers the original trilogy with huge changes. Like said in the previous comment yoda uses the force on the death star and destroys it, luke misses is shots and the death star does not explode, and Leia becomes a Jedi.
I remember in Star Ware revenge of the sith game the last fight with anakin and Obi wan, they did an alternate ending if anakin would’ve won the duel. He then immediately kills sidious and takes over the galaxy. I remember being shocked after playing that. Also the DLCs for both force unleashed games were awesome (more so the first game, second one was meh). Especially corrupting luke on Hoth
Idk why you are constantly trashing all the ideas, I think some of them (most of them actually) are pretty interesting new things that could shake things up. Except swole Vader of course.
5:25 Redeemed Vader looks to me like an awesome design for a Darth Vader ghost. Imagine someone entering Vader's castle on Mustafar years after his demise, & seeing this materialize in front of them, a white sith ghost still haunting his lair
It would still look like Hayden Christiansen because if he appeared as Vader he would literally just be a burnt mound of Head and torso Robot parts don't have ghosts
I would never turn to the Dark Side. It goes against literally everything my character stands for. Seeing that concept art genuinely makes me sick in an existential sort of way.
It's meant as a dumb mirror universe timeline, just a fun sidestory in a multiplayer focused game. Like chill, man, would you freak out if I showed you Spock with a goatie?
Well, a bunch of these ideas, reworked and properly polished out, would be genius. Dark Obi Wan would be an UNIT, an older, dark or even grey jedi Mace Windu played by Mr. Jackson would be a force of nature and don’t get me started on Emperor Vader, who would trade villanous edgy evil shenanigans for cruel, machine-like precision, and maybe actually care for his empire. For a franchise so rich and spanning centuries of conflict, SW really suffers from a lack of depth sometimes
1:56 That is not hard of a question. Maul killing his former lover for example brought him close. Its not like the characters only need to be one thing. There are many what if scenarios of vader staying in the light and not many complain about that for some reason.
“The only guess I can make is he turns to the dark side after qui gon dies” yeah ignore his lover being stabbed through the chest and then him killing his brother
Well, canonically obiwan was in love with a mandalorian, in an alternate timeline he would have done as anakin, and when she died, he could fall to the dark side
When you’re mad at a game designed to be fantasy, for being a Fantasy game it really shows you have an unfair bias against the game, definitely not worth wasting time on this video, I’ve noticed that more and more in your videos recently.
These are just cool. It’s like calling alternate universes in comics stupid. I honestly think all these are cool ideas. None of these would even be cannon so I don’t really see the problem with this.
Dark Obiwan? Easy, kill Satine before end of their mission, when they were younger. He said it himself: "Had you say a word i would've left Jedi order".
I heard somewhere that "Redeemed Vader" actually came from a "What if?" comic series which was like, alternate events for the movies. Like Han Solo ending up permanently blind after being freed from the Carbonite. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah that’s where it comes from, thank god you said something because I knew he was from there but part of me wasn’t sure completely and nobody else was saying anything.
I mean he also saw the love of his life die in front of him. Had his master die In front of him and had to kill his brother. If he did choose the dark side honestly no Jedi has gone through as much pain as obi wan
Actually, redeemed Vader is an actual character with an official appearance in the Star Wars franchise, that of which being the return of the meme Jedi comics in which Vader survives the lightning attacks from Palpatine and returns to the light side and dons this brightly-colored uniform while recovering on the millennium falcon.
"Whoever thought Rainbow troopers were a good idea?" Kaminoans who see in Ultra Violet light thats imperceptible to the Human eye: You never complained about it once throughout the war. Why is this an issue now?
Lol, the idea of Luke ever giving up on the Jedi truly is the stuff of fan fiction. Rhere is no way Lucasfilm would have ever been crazy enough to actually approved something so stupid! Wait a minute...
White Vader actually makes sense. He's an official comic character. yes, it was only in one comic which showed an alternate universe of empire strikes back... I think. I can't remember exactly, but it was something like that. it was him siding with the Rebellion against the Empire. it's unknown if it was for the same reason Luke joined the Rebellion, but most believe it's so he can slowly corrupt Luke and have him turn to the dark side. Darth Leia happened in the alternate universe comics as well. each comic told alternate outcomes to the events of the OT. the only thing they didn't have was her in a cloaked version of the slave Leia outfit. I kinda like that outfit for various reasons. Yes, it was Leia at her hottest. However, it's also a unique uniform. Besides, if a Twi-Lek(Darth Talon), which is generally an overly sexualized alien species in star wars lore, can be a sith lord in a two-piece bikini 24/7... why can't a human?
Honestly, I’d love a “What if…” style Star Wars game. Is the idea of Luke or Obi-wan turning to the Dark Side kinda ridiculous? Yeah, but that’s why it’s fascinating. You’re not supposed to take it too seriously; you’re just supposed to enjoy the ride. It’s like Injustice Superman or those weird alternate timelines where Spider-man is evil and the Green Goblin is the good guy.
In defense of white Vader, that was from an alternate universe comic that was put out by Dark Horse Comics called Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi (There were also Infinities comics based on the other two OT films) which, among other changes, features Vader (now Anakin once again) surviving at the end and switching to a white version of his suit.
This reminds me of the PS2 Revenge of the Sith game. If both players chose the same character in the versus duel mode, one of them got an alternate version of said hero. Some of those were pretty awesome (like Grievous with grey armor and red sabers, or Jedi Dooku with a purple saber)
Joruus C'baoth was a clone of a Jedi that went crazy and fell, so that idea makes some sense. That being said, swole Vader made me laugh harder than it should have. My only question is: Where tf is Darth Binks in all this? Lmao
It's crazy, but at least it's daring and looks like it could be some fun. I miss the days when developers working on licenced games did weird and wacky stuff like this simply on the basis that it was, and declared that it was strictly, non-canonical.
The Revenge of the Sith game as well as both Force Unleashed games had alternate universe missions and costumes. There were even three "Infinite" comics which reimagined the events of the OT, so I'm not sure why you keep saying Lucasfilm wouldn't have approved these.
the white armour vader is actually a design from an alternate ending comic where he survived the end of RotJ and turned to the light side. joining luke and helping bring peace to the galaxy with his new look
Rey is the grandaughter of Palpatine and the daughter of palpatine something clone, now that sounds like fanfiction, sounds just as ridiculous if not more than the story of x2.
A Battlefront with branching SW Infinities storylines would have been cool. When you "fail" a mission, you can either replay or follow an Infinities path.
Battlefront 4 was an idea to expand the sandbox into the Infinities (the white armoured, redeemed Vader and Jedi Leia are both straight out of "Star Wars Infinities" in fact.), allowing for any hero unit to be played by any faction, this means a light side and dark side version of each character. Mirror matches, really there's no reason not to, Galactic Conquest modes let you play fast and loose with the timeline events anyways, might as well extend that to the characters as well. Also don't judge Concept art too harshly, a big part of it is to throw ideas at the wall, visual brainstorming and give the director more to work with, as often the final result will be picking and choosing elements from multiple iterations. The Chunky Vader reminds me of a Gantz hard suit.
The trouble with light-side Vader just wearing a white version of his suit is that the design and aesthetics of Vader's suit were derived from ancient Sith armour. A Jedi version of Vader wouldn't wear a white version of his canon armour. I know that they'd never do this, because his design is just too iconic, but I've always felt that Jedi Vader would wear something based on the helmets of Jedi temple guards.
Ok, NONE of these are dumb. Star Wars has always played around with Dark Side option alternate universe stuff in gaming for decades now. So all of this very much follows that same logic.
@@therandomscout6590 that was the only dumb concept but that has nothing to do with the alternate good/evil versions of existing characters and factions.
Yes. This does seem very fan-fic, but most early concept stuff does, I mean look at the original manuscript and ideas for the first star wars movie. Shit's wack.
I'm guessing that the redeemed Vader and Dark Side Obi-wan would be from a storyline where Obi-wan went to the Dark Side and Anakin had to try and redeem him. Obi-wan would win on Mustafar, with Yoda giving Anakin cybernetics. Anakin's campaign might have been about trying to redeem Obi-wan, with Obi-wan being redeemed the same way that Anakin was redeemed.
I like the idea of a "switchies" campaign where the dark side goes light and the light side goes dark, but their execution probably wouldn't have been good.
i kinda wish they decided to go whit this it would have been intresting also 7:58 he got too much sand in his boots that is why he went ot the dark side
A timeline in where order66 was ignored or something would be dope, clones were always my favourite part of star wars, would've been dope if they were still a thing
I mean I guess with the dark Obi-Wan you could say that in that timeline he was recruited by the Darkside rather than the light. Also as a sidenote I think it is a neat concept seeing a redeemed Darth Vader, perhaps an alternate timeline where he survives return of the Jedi. There’s a lot of need designs that were showing off here but I would probably have to go with the white Darth Vader suit personally. That way you keep all the cool design choices of the Vader suit but it’s color is now inverted to show his change back to the light side. Again maybe this is just because I like the idea of what if‘s and alternate takes on stories but I’ll admit this actually is quite interesting concepts for this game.
What is interesting is that all of these idea's are possible because a moment decided their fates or could have altered it Grievous became the Droid General because Dooku blew him up and blamed the Republic Obi-Wan could have fell to the dark side when Qui-gon died like so many other Sith Vader only died because of how he killed Palpatine, if he say used the force to crush him he wouldn't have gotten his life support system fried And so on and so forth For them to be in the game thought they would need to show it happening, give us a cutscene or a mission where it happens (If applicable) Like going off the Obi-Wan possibility for example. The level plays out like normal events but in the fight as mentioned Obi goes dark after Qui-Gon dies, so you take control of a now emotionally distraught Obi-wan mowing down droids in anger as the dark side whispers in your ear about how you weren't strong enough. It all goes on and keeps boiling until it bursts and it changes from just killing Droids to killing everything in your way as you make a break for a ship to leave the planet. Maybe have him return at some point a dark jedi with his new plan to search for force artifacts to... I dunno turn back time to save Qui-Gon, his mind to warped to realise that Qui-Gon would be disappointed in him
Dumb? Why is original, alternative story dumb? Would've been awesome to see that, maybe you like to play the same stories time after time but most of people don't..
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Dark obi wby
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I dunno man video is just started.
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I'ma be honest, I find a lot of these ideas actually cool, I think it's more weird than dumb besides that swole Darth Vader because it is really dumb 😂
There are some of these concepts that I certainly approve of. Not so much White-Suit Vader or similar designs, but I like the thought of characters in the opposite role of what they were in the movies.
@@Dragon359 agreed and yeah the white suit Vader was one of the ones I didn't really like.
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@@Dragon359 white suit Vader actually comes from the Star Wars infinity comic books (a what if retelling of the original trilogy) where he comes back redeemed and yoda fuckin drives the Death Star into courascant killing everybody just to end the emperor once and for all. It’s so stupid and amazing. But just so you know the three comics aren’t a single narrative it’s just a what if for each respective movie. I still recommend checking em out just for the lols
@@jman72898 yoda didn't kill everyone on coruscant it has an energy shield and thousands of level someone on the lower levels might have survived
Ngl, an alternate timeline would be absolutely dope for Star wars. Could be a flashpoint paradox like story or something
I agree. Especially when we saw dark version of Rey and Ben Solo in action.
But I would prefer it to be clash of some dimensions: OG heroes and villains meet their versions who switched sides + the third dimension is where Vader becomes the emperor, Grievous isn't a cyborg and Leia is a Jedi instead of Luke etc. I think a game like Battlefront should have this concept as a base for it.
@@КонстантинПаршуков-о6б ehhh nah. I'd be okay if it was set in the future where you the main character is a historian or something and discover artifacts from the OG timeline that kickstarts a journey
I would love a game that's all about playing an original, completely non-canon character, and just completely messing up the timeline. Jedi, Sith, bounty hunter, Nightsister, whatever the case. Hell, maybe you could change class throughout the game. Choose whether or not to be Force-sensitive yourself, choose a date to start from, maybe choose your starting age (probably couldn't go lower than eight), your homeworld, and then it just puts you somewhere based on what you started with, and then you just go from there. Get discovered by the Order, turn to the Dark Side, team up with Jango... Maybe you could even play as a clone, and you have to find out about the loyalty chip in order to fight against its power.
That is to say, you wouldn't be able to change anything your character doesn't know about. If you're a rich Tatooinian during TPM for example, you'd have to actually know about Jinn & Kenobi's disputes with Watto in order to fund the hyperdrive replacement. Maybe you're going about your business and you happen to overhear them going "Credits will do fine." and "No, they won't!" You could be screwed out of various opportunities by just never finding out in-character why you should go do something. For example, if you're still a Padawan during RotS, you probably wouldn't be able to just wander up to a Council member and hear about their arrest of Palpatine, so you would never find out that they needed help. Unless, I suppose, you have a high enough Force-related parameter to feel yourself needed at the Chancellor's Office. This would be the same way you would need to see Order 66 coming, unless you were at the Temple and you have the perfect stat build to beat Vader (even if you don't kill him - maybe he can still flee) or if you have the wherewithal to not even be noticed by him and just fight your way through the 501st to escape yourself (or just hide until Yoda & Obi-Wan arrive). Maybe during the fall of the Empire, you can meet Djarin and help raise The Child.
I'd totally be up for an Anthology-style game where it's just a pack of levels based around different what-if scenarios.
Dude, it’s concept art, it’s supposed to be lots of different all over the place ideas
Right? This guy was trying to give an original backstory to why light or dark switched sides while mocking the entire thing. But even his quick comments on a lot of them could be a good starting point.
And honestly with Star Wars and Marvel being owned by Disney, I’m sure we’ll see the Multiverse play into this alternative timeline eventually.
THAAANK YOU! Was looking for this. Playing it up for the video is fine, but its frustrating when he’s mocking a REQUIRED brainstorming part of the production process like this.
The developers: The dark side is a pathway to ideas for star wars some consider, absolutely fucking crazy
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@@ReaderDokja Where did you find that profile pic? Just want to know.
@@wannabehistorian371 The internet, just use google.
@@aceman67 It’s hard to do that for profile pics
Palpatine didn’t kill Eeth Koth. Vader did. The Zabrak Jedi that Palpatine killed in that scene was Agen Kolar.
I don't get why People can't See the difference
Agen Kolar*
@@davidholt234 Thanks.
So he is racist against zabraks
Les cancel this dude
@@omnibomni7661 its the same with adi gallia and stass allie
I feel like uncle Owen would make a killer flame trooper skin.
Yeah but..
Lol
Ironic...he could cause others to burn, but also himself
FLAMED troopers
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Did not think these ideas were stupid at all. I think most of the, except swol Vader, could have fit rather well into an alternate timeline. Also white armour Vader was the armour he was first envisioned to wear in the films before it was changed.
it's also the armour he wears in the what if comic where luke saves anakin and they try to keep him from being taken to trial
yeah, Bombastic doesnt know what the fuck he is talking lol
Not sure how the concept of light/dark side swap is “dumb”, but it’s kind of a cool idea in my opinion 🤷🏻♂️ and a real shame we never got Battlefront 3 and 4 honestly. Oh and RIP to that Darth Maul game we never got 🥺 and 1313
I agree! 2000s LucasArts games lived for out of the box ideas and gave us some of the best star wars games to date imo
I really like these concepts and you really aren’t giving them enough of a chance
Fr like it’s not canon so why not entertain us fans? This would be dope as hell today
Yeah, this video is super critical for no reason
@@jeraldchang2499 you watched the same one as me right? This video was full of jokes and mockery of character design, how tf is that critical
@@dragonborn4405 he’s smacking down concepts and calling them ridiculous, there’s like 3 jokes through the video and the rest is him just saying “seriously?” And “why would they think of this?” Like sure a lot of it is weird and doesnt follow the official story, but it’s concept art. It’s the “what would happen if...” for designs
@@jeraldchang2499 learn the definition of humor and jokes, hes joking throughout the video and giving his OPINION,thats what this whole video is genius
I dont think this guy understands what concept art is, there is concept art of link as a biker guy for breath of the wild, and I dont need to tell you how good that game was
I think the Redeemed Vader at 5:23 is the most realistic one, this is probably what he would have looked like if he survived in The Return of the Jedi
Idk why it pops up in my head so often, but Anakin in the chamber with the younglings...What about it, you ask? Instead of killing them, he remembers that he's going to be a dad soon and he begins thinking "will I have to kill my own child?" or something along the lines of they see him as an older brother/father figure and it just tears him up. Stays his blade and begins to help defend the temple and evac some of the Jedi before escaping to fight Palpatine later for his sins
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@@WorlWyrm Someone ruined it lol
@@SsgtTucker probably you
Actually, redeemed Vader exists in a legit alternative universe comic.
So is Jedi Leah.
@@Convoy00X Yup.
@@Convoy00X Well, jedi Leia also exists in the TFU II Dlc.
@@Convoy00X Leah
it was a vision that his kyber crystal showed him or something right
I'd kill for some Star Wars books or comics that look at some "What if?" Scenarios such as: Luke joining Vader in Episode 5,Anakin winning the duel with on Mustafar,Qui-Gon surviving Episode 1 and so much more.
I'd love it as just a little bit of Non-Canon fun that looks at potential alternative timelines
They actually made a few of them back in the day, we get to see yoda ram the Death Star into a planet
Star wars infinites covers the original trilogy with huge changes. Like said in the previous comment yoda uses the force on the death star and destroys it, luke misses is shots and the death star does not explode, and Leia becomes a Jedi.
I remember in Star Ware revenge of the sith game the last fight with anakin and Obi wan, they did an alternate ending if anakin would’ve won the duel. He then immediately kills sidious and takes over the galaxy. I remember being shocked after playing that. Also the DLCs for both force unleashed games were awesome (more so the first game, second one was meh). Especially corrupting luke on Hoth
Therapist: Uruk-hai Mace Windu isn’t real, he can’t hurt you
Uruk-hai Mace Windu: 4:17
That's the witch doctor from the princess and the frog 😂.
he bears the white sith warpaint of Count Saruman
Idk why you are constantly trashing all the ideas, I think some of them (most of them actually) are pretty interesting new things that could shake things up. Except swole Vader of course.
5:25 Redeemed Vader looks to me like an awesome design for a Darth Vader ghost.
Imagine someone entering Vader's castle on Mustafar years after his demise, & seeing this materialize in front of them, a white sith ghost still haunting his lair
Redeemed vader is actually a character in legends which makes it the more hillarious because isnt concept art is the actual final product 😂😂😂😂
It would still look like Hayden Christiansen because if he appeared as Vader he would literally just be a burnt mound of Head and torso Robot parts don't have ghosts
I would never turn to the Dark Side. It goes against literally everything my character stands for. Seeing that concept art genuinely makes me sick in an existential sort of way.
I agree, sir. Should we arrest the artist involved?
Ofc you won't. You will lose the High Ground if you do.
Maybe in this universe instead of finding Maul, Palpatine got to Kenobi first before the Jedi did. Don't take it so seriously.
Hello there!
It's meant as a dumb mirror universe timeline, just a fun sidestory in a multiplayer focused game. Like chill, man, would you freak out if I showed you Spock with a goatie?
Well, a bunch of these ideas, reworked and properly polished out, would be genius. Dark Obi Wan would be an UNIT, an older, dark or even grey jedi Mace Windu played by Mr. Jackson would be a force of nature and don’t get me started on Emperor Vader, who would trade villanous edgy evil shenanigans for cruel, machine-like precision, and maybe actually care for his empire.
For a franchise so rich and spanning centuries of conflict, SW really suffers from a lack of depth sometimes
Ezra: *pulls Kanan through the World Between Worlds*
Dark Luke: “You shouldn’t have done that.”
7:33 NOO, that's Agen Kolar, a completely different character from the same species to replace him because the original actor was not available.
1:56 That is not hard of a question. Maul killing his former lover for example brought him close. Its not like the characters only need to be one thing. There are many what if scenarios of vader staying in the light and not many complain about that for some reason.
Shitty fanfiction plot, check. Double lightsabers, check. Emo dark jedi, check. Yup, this is 2008.
“The only guess I can make is he turns to the dark side after qui gon dies” yeah ignore his lover being stabbed through the chest and then him killing his brother
The concept exists for Obi-Wan at the time of TPM before those events happened, unless Satine also died earlier in this alternate timeline.
That white redeemed Vader is actually from the infinities comics
7:52 yeah asaj with hair makes sense because of the flashback in clone wars where her master dies she has hair
She also has hair in the Dark Disciple novel
I find it really weird how they retconned her into being a Zabrak. Originally she was a Rattataki, which is a hairless species.
Well, canonically obiwan was in love with a mandalorian, in an alternate timeline he would have done as anakin, and when she died, he could fall to the dark side
Nobody:
Companies during june: 0:27
tbh some of these aren't that bad, for example 2:01the Sith lord obi-wan with the long beard looks awesome.
7:33 Thats actully isn't Eeth Koth but instead Agen Kolar
When you’re mad at a game designed to be fantasy, for being a Fantasy game it really shows you have an unfair bias against the game, definitely not worth wasting time on this video, I’ve noticed that more and more in your videos recently.
Bruh, everyone has opinions
He's not even mad lmao. You're getting mad at a guy because he's mad and he's not even mad.
Not actually that dumb. They're just Mirror Universe versions of the established characters. Some of the designs were admittedly failtastic though.
4:30 ... I died of laughter.
These are just cool. It’s like calling alternate universes in comics stupid. I honestly think all these are cool ideas. None of these would even be cannon so I don’t really see the problem with this.
Dark Obiwan? Easy, kill Satine before end of their mission, when they were younger. He said it himself: "Had you say a word i would've left Jedi order".
I kinda wanna see a what if scenario where Obi-Wan actually does leave the order for her
I heard somewhere that "Redeemed Vader" actually came from a "What if?" comic series which was like, alternate events for the movies. Like Han Solo ending up permanently blind after being freed from the Carbonite. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah that’s where it comes from, thank god you said something because I knew he was from there but part of me wasn’t sure completely and nobody else was saying anything.
X1 was the main villain of the og Battlefront 2 story mode on the Nintendo DS version if I remember correctly.
@@rhysdajani3618 ah yes I remember now
Guy died I think in the game right?
Also Battlefront Elite Squadron for the PSP
Honestly darth Obi Wan is not that stupid. In prequels Dooku tried to convince Obi Wan to join him. Maybe in this universe he agreed 😂
I don't know, it's still pretty dang stupid. Anyone can asks you to become a selfish killer, but that doesn't make you joining them any less absurd.
I mean he also saw the love of his life die in front of him. Had his master die In front of him and had to kill his brother. If he did choose the dark side honestly no Jedi has gone through as much pain as obi wan
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi General Kenobi!
@@Obi-Wan_Kenobi You mean the entire story of the prequels?
The alt timelines are actually from old comics made around the same time the prequels we made
Actually, redeemed Vader is an actual character with an official appearance in the Star Wars franchise, that of which being the return of the meme Jedi comics in which Vader survives the lightning attacks from Palpatine and returns to the light side and dons this brightly-colored uniform while recovering on the millennium falcon.
"Whoever thought Rainbow troopers were a good idea?"
Kaminoans who see in Ultra Violet light thats imperceptible to the Human eye: You never complained about it once throughout the war. Why is this an issue now?
Lol, the idea of Luke ever giving up on the Jedi truly is the stuff of fan fiction. Rhere is no way Lucasfilm would have ever been crazy enough to actually approved something so stupid!
Wait a minute...
1:38
In Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy, there was an insane clone of a Jedi Master called Joruus C'Baoth.
8:26 Ah yes, Punished Owen "A Fallen Legend"
This guy fought the storm troopers off..... with his bare hands!
White Vader actually makes sense. He's an official comic character. yes, it was only in one comic which showed an alternate universe of empire strikes back... I think. I can't remember exactly, but it was something like that. it was him siding with the Rebellion against the Empire. it's unknown if it was for the same reason Luke joined the Rebellion, but most believe it's so he can slowly corrupt Luke and have him turn to the dark side. Darth Leia happened in the alternate universe comics as well. each comic told alternate outcomes to the events of the OT. the only thing they didn't have was her in a cloaked version of the slave Leia outfit. I kinda like that outfit for various reasons. Yes, it was Leia at her hottest. However, it's also a unique uniform. Besides, if a Twi-Lek(Darth Talon), which is generally an overly sexualized alien species in star wars lore, can be a sith lord in a two-piece bikini 24/7... why can't a human?
5:45 actually in the comics I think Grievous wanted to be a Jedi but the Jedi were like: no, you aren't even force sensitive.
A What-If/Elseworld's style Star Wars game where the sides of the of the force are reversed sounds dope as Hell honestly.
so basically a mirror universe star wars game that actually sounds interesting
Hey man, don't knock X1 and X2. Battlefront Elite Squadron was my childhood on DS.
Honestly, I’d love a “What if…” style Star Wars game. Is the idea of Luke or Obi-wan turning to the Dark Side kinda ridiculous? Yeah, but that’s why it’s fascinating. You’re not supposed to take it too seriously; you’re just supposed to enjoy the ride. It’s like Injustice Superman or those weird alternate timelines where Spider-man is evil and the Green Goblin is the good guy.
In defense of white Vader, that was from an alternate universe comic that was put out by Dark Horse Comics called Star Wars Infinities: Return of the Jedi (There were also Infinities comics based on the other two OT films) which, among other changes, features Vader (now Anakin once again) surviving at the end and switching to a white version of his suit.
This reminds me of the PS2 Revenge of the Sith game. If both players chose the same character in the versus duel mode, one of them got an alternate version of said hero. Some of those were pretty awesome (like Grievous with grey armor and red sabers, or Jedi Dooku with a purple saber)
Joruus C'baoth was a clone of a Jedi that went crazy and fell, so that idea makes some sense. That being said, swole Vader made me laugh harder than it should have. My only question is: Where tf is Darth Binks in all this? Lmao
7:31 The guy getting killed by Palps isn't Eeth Koth but Agen Kolar!
Me time traveling in star wars: Breaths
The entire Star Wars timeline:
It's crazy, but at least it's daring and looks like it could be some fun. I miss the days when developers working on licenced games did weird and wacky stuff like this simply on the basis that it was, and declared that it was strictly, non-canonical.
“Darth Maul wields double bladed lightsabers.”
Shows image of him holding *one* lightsaber
The Revenge of the Sith game as well as both Force Unleashed games had alternate universe missions and costumes. There were even three "Infinite" comics which reimagined the events of the OT, so I'm not sure why you keep saying Lucasfilm wouldn't have approved these.
the white armour vader is actually a design from an alternate ending comic where he survived the end of RotJ and turned to the light side. joining luke and helping bring peace to the galaxy with his new look
Rey is the grandaughter of Palpatine and the daughter of palpatine something clone, now that sounds like fanfiction, sounds just as ridiculous if not more than the story of x2.
The Battlefront franchise had so much potential, really is tragic.
I remember having a toy version of the all white Vader. I always thought it was just his snow camouflage.
The Emperor Vader with the gold trim looked very sharp.
A Battlefront with branching SW Infinities storylines would have been cool. When you "fail" a mission, you can either replay or follow an Infinities path.
Watch bombastic get cancelled for calling rainbow troopers a bad idea
Battlefront 4 was an idea to expand the sandbox into the Infinities (the white armoured, redeemed Vader and Jedi Leia are both straight out of "Star Wars Infinities" in fact.), allowing for any hero unit to be played by any faction, this means a light side and dark side version of each character. Mirror matches, really there's no reason not to, Galactic Conquest modes let you play fast and loose with the timeline events anyways, might as well extend that to the characters as well.
Also don't judge Concept art too harshly, a big part of it is to throw ideas at the wall, visual brainstorming and give the director more to work with, as often the final result will be picking and choosing elements from multiple iterations.
The Chunky Vader reminds me of a Gantz hard suit.
Anyone else think that dark Luke and dark Kenobi look like inquisitors
The idea of an alt timeline would be awesome, could see some things we weren’t able to see in the OT, like full potential Anakin/Vader
The trouble with light-side Vader just wearing a white version of his suit is that the design and aesthetics of Vader's suit were derived from ancient Sith armour. A Jedi version of Vader wouldn't wear a white version of his canon armour. I know that they'd never do this, because his design is just too iconic, but I've always felt that Jedi Vader would wear something based on the helmets of Jedi temple guards.
These concepts have been out for some time and I've loved them. They are fun alt versions.
I feel like you were hating on this too hard, all this would be awesome too play 😆
I really like that non-cyborg Grievous, idk, just looks really neat
Ok, NONE of these are dumb. Star Wars has always played around with Dark Side option alternate universe stuff in gaming for decades now. So all of this very much follows that same logic.
What about Rainbow Trooper?
@@maliziosoeperverso1697 Dafuq is aosisaooadf
@@therandomscout6590 that was the only dumb concept but that has nothing to do with the alternate good/evil versions of existing characters and factions.
Darth Vader have a white suit is actually from a what if comic. Yoda takes control of the deathstar and smashes it into Courascant.
Yes. This does seem very fan-fic, but most early concept stuff does, I mean look at the original manuscript and ideas for the first star wars movie. Shit's wack.
When you said 5% obi-wan I was expecting 95% Vader. When you said frog that got me lol
I thought he would say 95 % Darth Malgus.
I'm guessing that the redeemed Vader and Dark Side Obi-wan would be from a storyline where Obi-wan went to the Dark Side and Anakin had to try and redeem him. Obi-wan would win on Mustafar, with Yoda giving Anakin cybernetics. Anakin's campaign might have been about trying to redeem Obi-wan, with Obi-wan being redeemed the same way that Anakin was redeemed.
I like the idea of a "switchies" campaign where the dark side goes light and the light side goes dark, but their execution probably wouldn't have been good.
i kinda wish they decided to go whit this it would have been intresting also 7:58 he got too much sand in his boots that is why he went ot the dark side
A timeline in where order66 was ignored or something would be dope, clones were always my favourite part of star wars, would've been dope if they were still a thing
If Leia did turn the dark side I think luke would able to bring her back or he could have just probably defeated her I'm thinking of that
Bombastic: look at these crazy characters!
Guy that made them: 🥴
Me: 😑
3:14 GRIEVIOUS KNEW IT ALL ALONG he is indeed a bald one (can we have some #edgy_McGregor in the comments)
Just take me to the dimension where these games were completed and released.
I like the idea of seeing dark side version of light side characters and light side version of dark side characters
You got to admit that some of the concept art looks pretty rad independently of how dumb or nonsensical they might be
I mean I guess with the dark Obi-Wan you could say that in that timeline he was recruited by the Darkside rather than the light.
Also as a sidenote I think it is a neat concept seeing a redeemed Darth Vader, perhaps an alternate timeline where he survives return of the Jedi. There’s a lot of need designs that were showing off here but I would probably have to go with the white Darth Vader suit personally. That way you keep all the cool design choices of the Vader suit but it’s color is now inverted to show his change back to the light side.
Again maybe this is just because I like the idea of what if‘s and alternate takes on stories but I’ll admit this actually is quite interesting concepts for this game.
4:59 i dont know why, but this vader radiates dad energy
What is interesting is that all of these idea's are possible because a moment decided their fates or could have altered it
Grievous became the Droid General because Dooku blew him up and blamed the Republic
Obi-Wan could have fell to the dark side when Qui-gon died like so many other Sith
Vader only died because of how he killed Palpatine, if he say used the force to crush him he wouldn't have gotten his life support system fried
And so on and so forth
For them to be in the game thought they would need to show it happening, give us a cutscene or a mission where it happens (If applicable)
Like going off the Obi-Wan possibility for example. The level plays out like normal events but in the fight as mentioned Obi goes dark after Qui-Gon dies, so you take control of a now emotionally distraught Obi-wan mowing down droids in anger as the dark side whispers in your ear about how you weren't strong enough. It all goes on and keeps boiling until it bursts and it changes from just killing Droids to killing everything in your way as you make a break for a ship to leave the planet. Maybe have him return at some point a dark jedi with his new plan to search for force artifacts to... I dunno turn back time to save Qui-Gon, his mind to warped to realise that Qui-Gon would be disappointed in him
0:32 bro the empire celebrates pride month
Dumb? Why is original, alternative story dumb? Would've been awesome to see that, maybe you like to play the same stories time after time but most of people don't..
I heard about this and absolutely wanted to have this as a what if type game.
Darth Vader actually wore an all white suit in the comics. It was in infinities. I love that look tbh
At this point Vader is so buff that he can block lightsaber beams with his arms 😂
4:31 he actually put it there this time lol
6:03 it was a good joke tho
Am sad lego star wars wasn't at future games show
Would love an Old Republic battlefront. Play as Republic troopers vs Mandalorians in the Mando Wars with Revan and Mand'alor the Ultimate as heroes.
1:12 My god. The edge is already getting to me.
This is honestly super awesome. I would have loved alternate timeline characters and storylines. Any way to play swole Vader.
As a light novel reader and long time fan, this is a masterpiece. I’m a Pursena main.