This was a very thoughtful, very informed, and helpful review! Thank you! I now feel very secure in buying one of these as a sort of throw away journaling pen. Something that will write well and keep up but that I don’t have to baby or worry about dropping due to an expensive price tag. Thank you!
A curious design indeed. At least the grey finial matches the section. One thing that amuses me is the name of the company: Wordsworth and Bläck. It reminds me of Häagen-Dazs ice cream. Marketers trying to add generic European cachet by adding umlauts. This might be overly cynical of me as apparently "bläck" is Swedish for "ink" so it's not quite as random as Häagen-Dazs.
Didn’t know we need a wood finish duofold, now someone should start working on it. Either Moonman, Jinhao or Conklin all have experience with wood. Hopefully a wooden duragraph or m600s. Thanks for buying the pen so we don’t have to.
Great review. I will steer clear of this company. Whatever wood they're using, it looks nothing like bamboo which is a grass, not a type of wood - strictly speaking - and as such has no grain. I should know because I see bamboo every day of the week when I walk my dogs. Thanks to pen friend Janice for taking one for the team.
@@InkquiringMinds My pleasure. For comparison look up Manu Propria's collection: www.manupropria-pens.ch/welcome/Collection/Bamboo___Precious_Wood_Fountain_Pen_Collection.html Also, Sailor Susustake (煤竹 Soot-colored Bamboo), Sailor Hotei Dragon (布袋 Hotei; Budai; god of contentment, depicted as a pot-bellied monk who carries a large cloth bag on his back; NB: this is a guess on my part), Platinum Izumo, Danitrio Urushi Kindake (金竹 Golden Bamboo). As for pronunciation susu sounds like soot with the -t swallowed, take (ta- as in tarnish, -ke as in Kerry). And finally, Rare-Ranga from India also has their own version (with an Ebonite feed no less, if I remember correctly.) Maybe you'll be able to get one or more of these pens (on loan?) for future reviews...?
What that nifty little pen stand called next to your note pad and where can I get one? I like it!!! I'm new to these sort of things so forgive my ignorance lol
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks! I have a friend with a 3D printer and found some really cool pen stands that he said he'd be more then willing to make me. I did a little digging and found the closest thing that resembles your nifty gadget is actually a chopstick rest. Who would have guessed? Thanks for the video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I went ahead and purchased the blonde version of this pen based on your review. Its my first fountain pen and didn't want to spend alot of $$ I lose stuff lol. I agree with you on some of the esthetics of the pen. But for a beginner im happy with it. Thanks, keep posting!
Its the best example of remarketing sub-quality Chinese pen with Western branding. " Shanghai noon" ( Chinese in Western outfit)😁 . The only thing I credit the manufacturer is the choice of material. Its far much eco friendly than the plastic they ship to rest of the world.
@@InkquiringMinds Mr Indi, don't you think you should try making your own handmade fountain pen this year. Maybe when you get some holidays or free time? I think you should try making a fascinating one. Get a stub n turn to the most desirable design. I believe that would be a wonderful piece of work since you have good knowledge of fountain pens.
Excellent pen gift box with a free pen 😁😁!! In the end the nib is the important thing and it works well just a pity about what we call in the UK the "dogs dinner" of a design.
Professor Doug, Good from far, far from good, like many of the girls I dated. Thought it might make a good gift for my nephew a bit of an upscale look for a college kid but perhaps I will peruse a bit more.
Just a heads up for Canadians. A couple of colours in he Wordsworth and Black Erduite series are on sale on Amazon.ca.. Yesterday it was just the black and gold (so classy!) and the silver chrome on sale for $19.95. I ordered the black and gold. This morning, the silver chrome dropped down to $14.95. These are nice sets - leather case, 6 cartridges (3 black, 3 blue) and the converter. I think that I'm going to order another one in silver chrome and keep it until Christmas in case I need a gift for someone.
Well, I finally got it and I have been using it for a few days. The Erduite models are MUCH better than the bamboo version. The pen is well-balanced posted. It is fairly dry. Waterman Serenity Blue dries in a few seconds. It isn't scratchy and flows nice across the page. I am almost certain that the converter is Jinhao. The nib, I'm not sure. It only has some sort of symbol on it, no writing. There is some flex. The nib on that bamboo one is probably a Jinhao. Everyone says that they are very wet and it looks just like the pictures on Amazon. I did get the converter, 6 cartridges and the faux leather case. The presentation is really nice. I'm really happy. Your friend should honestly return that other one. If they see your review, I'm sure that they are going to want to take care of that.
It is an acrylic "pen rest" from Penbbs. I bought it at the PenbbsOfficialStore on Etsy. The have them in stock now and then. You just have to keep watching.
Hi, Doug, I subscribed your channel recently, and I am so into your reviews.😍 You are such a detailed reviewer! I am going back to your previous videos and started watching all of them. Usually, I mainly bought fountain pens from the luxury pen shops and some from ebay(after watching your videos about some Chinese fountain pens), but I also got interested in Amazon sold (I guess chinese?) fountain pens. I wonder you may be able to review Dryden fountain pens since they are sold number one fountain pen now in Amazon. Will you consider reviewing?? I didn't find any valuable reviews in TH-cam so far, except for (probably) paid videos.
Thank you so much Rachel and welcome aboard! I've seen the ads for the Dryden pens but they just seem to me to be a Chinese pen made by Jinhao, HongDian, Fuliwen or other Chinese OEM manufacturer and then branded, marketed and marked up in price like the Woodsworth & Black and many others including Monteverde. And since these come out of my own pocket, I'll pass. Sorry.
I was gifted one of their pens. An all stainless model. The nib was so bad it was unusable. Snagged paper and it wouldn’t feed ink to the nib. No amount of cleaning and adjusting would help. It looked kind of cool but was the worst fountain pen I ever encountered. I stopped short of opening the channel on the feed and I don’t keep a nib tuning kit on hand (a pen shouldn’t need that out of the box anyway). Emailed W&B to no response. Finally gave up, found a random German iridium nib in a box of parts. Pulled the feed out of a no name Chinese pen. Scrapped the W&B converter for a Wing Sung and Installed everything in the W&B. It writes OK now. Thought about putting in an ebonite feed but couldn’t justify it. The box is very nice. It did come with the six ink cartridges. ...and I really like my Jinhao 51A. My expectations are pretty flexible.
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks for the reply, Doug. I was inspired to rebuild it while watching a your videos. Then I saw this one. Sad thing is I have a few $5 Chinese pens that are great. Nothing sophisticated but they work, no skips, no hard starts and I can drop them in a bag or coat pocket without worry of wear or scratching. I’d hesitate to give even away the W&B. Thanks for making such great content! Bonus points for reviewing pens that don’t require a bank loan and forfeit of an arm!
Thanks to you and your pen friend, Janice! My guess is that she's in no hurry to have it back, maybe the box and the nib. Loved your assembly of supporting clips--you treaded the fine line between dog's breakfast and delightful arrangement, beautifully. Lots of fun! Noted the umlaut in Black, double-extra elegant and distinguished, lol! Cheers!
Ugh edges, edges, edges...I think I cut my fingers just by watching this (excellent) review. This pen looks as if the designer never had seen a real fountain pen before. Maybe you can wrap it in some colurful scotch tape to hide the design (and protect the wood) and still be able to use it. And then my gaze returns to the freshly arrived Eversharp Skyline on my desk waiting for restoration later today and I think to myself "What a beautiful pen"...
I have this pen...lol it's a present from my brother(whit another Picasso pen)......I never used seriously.....cheap pen but good writer,same my model.
@@francescomotolese4644 I suspect most, if not all, are bought as gifts as they come in a nice box, and non fountain people will not catch the hints that this is a crap design Chinese pen. That is their despicable marketing tactic. I never buy anything from companies like that. Often done with candy/chocolate boxes/tins/baskets by mail order, where a fifty dollar package has five dollars of candy in a really pretty box, and plenty of paper stuffing taking up the majority of the space. Who is going to tell granny/auntie/etc that they had been had, when they were just trying to send you something nice. I loathe the people that operate these businesses.
I picked up the Silver Chrome erudite pen. It's a decent pen, medium nib, smooth flow. The only issue I have with it it the very slim grip position which forces me to hold it higher up the shaft. Not the worst $30 dollars I've spent.
I have an inexpensive Tradio Pentel pen that I found at the local office supply store. Just give it a shake before you start to write and it works beautifully with Stormy Grey!!
The box is nice. Regarding products from China, we're currently on the CCP's naughty list for speaking out about human rights abuses. Not banned, per se, just more problematic.
What a nice introduction to Wordsworth and Black. It's a lovely pen for small hands and that price point is killer; however, this pen wouldn't suit me on my pen journey. Just waiting for the PenBBS 456 Blue Galaxy to drop. I was hoping it would last week, but no such luck. Here is hoping we see it soon. Please stay healthy and safe. Thank you!
I've been checking multiple times per day since last Saturday when you clued me in. I've seen quite a few things added back to the inventory, but alas no galaxy pens yet...sigh. Oh, and my shipment from them has stalled out in San Francisco. It arrived there last Saturday, but hasn't budged. So close, yet so far away.
You _think_ ? Do "job lot" Alibaba pens carry the W & B insignia on the clip? These pens are all identical so how could they be a job lot purchase when job lots are, by definition, miscellaneous collections of different items?
@@InkquiringMinds Or when they pull them from inventory to ship them to whomever ordered some to resell. A few months back I was getting TH-cam ads for a pen that looked like generic Chinese brass and wood pen that can be had for about five bucks, but branded and in a very nice box for about hundred. I guess five for pen, five for box, twenty for TH-cam ads, and seventy for the bastard doing that.
Now be fair, it could have been designed in Britian, late on a Friday night after several hours in the pub, by a bunch of people all putting their ideas down on a very wet beer mat and rushing because the landlord is about to throw you out.
When I go on Amazon to look for anything remotely stationery/art supply they put these or similar brands of pens in the search results like it or not. If it lasts a while it could become someone's treasured pen. All because Jinhao and other Chinese names sound too foreign and scary...I guess. They used all their leftover hardware on these chimera pens, though. Let no part go to waste 😝
Yeah, Dryden is the same although I've not held one. People would rather buy a "quality" western name on a Chinese pen than the real Chinese pen because that's just being patriotic. Idiotic in my book.
If someone's that shallow they deserve what they get. Some brand with a tryhard name pops up using phrases like "especially made for chic people" and bad photoshop in their ads screams generic to me. Might be good, might be trash but it's rebranded. Then they add "designed in the US" somewhere to reassure the people that skim the text. If you don't know China is the world's factory by now you're sleeping *drops mic and kicks soapbox down the street* I'm silly.
@@amyr.862 No one buys these for themselves. Scam people that need a gift, and buy without much research. That us why they buy ads to place in top of the listing.
I was suspicious about this pen when I saw it being sponsored on Amazon and everytime I tried to do a pen search this brand would come up first. I am glad that you reviewed it, which let's me know my suspicions were right. The other thing is that the two gold bands look to be of slightly different width. Is that so or is it a optical illusion? At least bamboo is eco friendly as it grows like grass. If they are advertising everywhere, paying for sponsoring on Amazon, the manufacturing costs must be really cheap to sell it at the price they are. I wonder how many chinese pens are actually made in China rather than Vietnam and other really low manufacturing cost places. Thanks for the video.
@@InkquiringMinds, I think they just got lucky with the nib. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gotta agree with the other comment; that’s not bamboo. Bamboo doesn’t grow rings.
Very detailed and helpful review (as usual!) and suggests to me that I should pass. I am going for another fountain pen that you reviewed. Thanks A Lot.
Once again, Doug (or rather pen friend Janice) takes one for the team! I save lots of money whenever you post about a disappointing pen! As an artist myself, I wonder what people are able to do with Medium sized nibs... I can never get the detail that I want from them. I feel like mediums are largely preferred by the fountain pen writing community, but most of the artists I know either use fine or extra fine. Could be a good video idea for my channel. Thanks for the review!
Hey Doug! Thanks for showing this pen up close... Been tempted a couple of times... Glad I got the Dryden instead! I have another cheap pen you may be interested in... An all metal, hooded nib, , weighted towards the business end(yay!), a wet, mediumish nib! On Amazon called 'Boer Writer's Pen' $13 American I think. I actually like it!
Every time I have seen this listed somewhere I figured it was one of those pens bought by non fountain pen people as gifts for their fountain pen using friends or family who will not use it, but won't complain about the gift. Many companies operate like this as people aren't likely to complain about gifts, as that wouldn't be polite, and you don't want to ruin the gifter's joy. I find this despicable. Part I would like best is the nice box I suspect. Design isn't design, but more of an exercise of "what can you assemble from this grab bag of parts we have available at the factory." At least the nib works, but perhaps don't attach it to dog's breakfast.
Thanks for this amazing review, but can you please do a review on the Wordsworth & black majesti? I have been meaning to buy that pen for a while but have only seen about 1 review on it, so I would love to see your opinion on it, thanks!
This was a very thoughtful, very informed, and helpful review! Thank you! I now feel very secure in buying one of these as a sort of throw away journaling pen. Something that will write well and keep up but that I don’t have to baby or worry about dropping due to an expensive price tag.
Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Island of Misfit Pens - made me snort/laugh. Glad I wasn't drinking.
LOL Almost gotcha!
A curious design indeed. At least the grey finial matches the section. One thing that amuses me is the name of the company: Wordsworth and Bläck. It reminds me of Häagen-Dazs ice cream. Marketers trying to add generic European cachet by adding umlauts. This might be overly cynical of me as apparently "bläck" is Swedish for "ink" so it's not quite as random as Häagen-Dazs.
Now it truly is a dogs breakfast of nations; UK, Sweden, China.
I was extremely impressed by your attention to detail in this review! Thank you.
My pleasure!
Didn’t know we need a wood finish duofold, now someone should start working on it. Either Moonman, Jinhao or Conklin all have experience with wood. Hopefully a wooden duragraph or m600s.
Thanks for buying the pen so we don’t have to.
Umm... I didn't buy it, it is on loan. So, Janice bit the bullet.
Great review. I will steer clear of this company. Whatever wood they're using, it looks nothing like bamboo which is a grass, not a type of wood - strictly speaking - and as such has no grain. I should know because I see bamboo every day of the week when I walk my dogs. Thanks to pen friend Janice for taking one for the team.
Great point! Thanks, Inga. Good to know about bamboo!
@@InkquiringMinds My pleasure. For comparison look up Manu Propria's collection:
www.manupropria-pens.ch/welcome/Collection/Bamboo___Precious_Wood_Fountain_Pen_Collection.html
Also, Sailor Susustake (煤竹 Soot-colored Bamboo), Sailor Hotei Dragon (布袋 Hotei; Budai; god of contentment, depicted as a pot-bellied monk who carries a large cloth bag on his back; NB: this is a guess on my part), Platinum Izumo, Danitrio Urushi Kindake (金竹 Golden Bamboo). As for pronunciation susu sounds like soot with the -t swallowed, take (ta- as in tarnish, -ke as in Kerry).
And finally, Rare-Ranga from India also has their own version (with an Ebonite feed no less, if I remember correctly.) Maybe you'll be able to get one or more of these pens (on loan?) for future reviews...?
I own an unit but "Wordsworth".
Italian craftsmanship at chinese price, Imo.
What that nifty little pen stand called next to your note pad and where can I get one? I like it!!! I'm new to these sort of things so forgive my ignorance lol
I had my son 3D print that for me. I found the 3D design on Thingiverse.com.
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks! I have a friend with a 3D printer and found some really cool pen stands that he said he'd be more then willing to make me. I did a little digging and found the closest thing that resembles your nifty gadget is actually a chopstick rest. Who would have guessed? Thanks for the video. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I went ahead and purchased the blonde version of this pen based on your review. Its my first fountain pen and didn't want to spend alot of $$ I lose stuff lol. I agree with you on some of the esthetics of the pen. But for a beginner im happy with it. Thanks, keep posting!
Its the best example of remarketing sub-quality Chinese pen with Western branding. " Shanghai noon" ( Chinese in Western outfit)😁 . The only thing I credit the manufacturer is the choice of material. Its far much eco friendly than the plastic they ship to rest of the world.
Well said!
@@InkquiringMinds Mr Indi, don't you think you should try making your own handmade fountain pen this year. Maybe when you get some holidays or free time? I think you should try making a fascinating one. Get a stub n turn to the most desirable design. I believe that would be a wonderful piece of work since you have good knowledge of fountain pens.
Who me? I don’t have any turning experience or equipment or even a shop!
Marketing! *rolls eyes* But the nib is what really matters, and I was surprised by the writing sample.
Me too!
That's one of the reasons why I Iike my Cross Peerless 125. It's designed to post securely with a click.
Excellent pen gift box with a free pen 😁😁!! In the end the nib is the important thing and it works well just a pity about what we call in the UK the "dogs dinner" of a design.
Breakfast, lunch , tea or dinner, it is a melange! ;)
Yes, a very nice box.
Professor Doug, Good from far, far from good, like many of the girls I dated. Thought it might make a good gift for my nephew a bit of an upscale look for a college kid but perhaps I will peruse a bit more.
Good call, Coach!
Just a heads up for Canadians. A couple of colours in he Wordsworth and Black Erduite series are on sale on Amazon.ca.. Yesterday it was just the black and gold (so classy!) and the silver chrome on sale for $19.95. I ordered the black and gold. This morning, the silver chrome dropped down to $14.95. These are nice sets - leather case, 6 cartridges (3 black, 3 blue) and the converter. I think that I'm going to order another one in silver chrome and keep it until Christmas in case I need a gift for someone.
Nevermind. By the time I decided which bottle of ink to get, the price jumped back up...
Thanks for the heads-up!
Well, I finally got it and I have been using it for a few days. The Erduite models are MUCH better than the bamboo version. The pen is well-balanced posted. It is fairly dry. Waterman Serenity Blue dries in a few seconds. It isn't scratchy and flows nice across the page. I am almost certain that the converter is Jinhao. The nib, I'm not sure. It only has some sort of symbol on it, no writing. There is some flex. The nib on that bamboo one is probably a Jinhao. Everyone says that they are very wet and it looks just like the pictures on Amazon. I did get the converter, 6 cartridges and the faux leather case. The presentation is really nice. I'm really happy. Your friend should honestly return that other one. If they see your review, I'm sure that they are going to want to take care of that.
What is it your resting your pen on and where to I buy one?
It is an acrylic "pen rest" from Penbbs. I bought it at the PenbbsOfficialStore on Etsy. The have them in stock now and then. You just have to keep watching.
No wonder the paperwork was missing,have you reviewed a dryden pen?
I've seen them. I have no desire to purchase one. Just another rebrand.
Hi, Doug, I subscribed your channel recently, and I am so into your reviews.😍 You are such a detailed reviewer! I am going back to your previous videos and started watching all of them. Usually, I mainly bought fountain pens from the luxury pen shops and some from ebay(after watching your videos about some Chinese fountain pens), but I also got interested in Amazon sold (I guess chinese?) fountain pens. I wonder you may be able to review Dryden fountain pens since they are sold number one fountain pen now in Amazon. Will you consider reviewing?? I didn't find any valuable reviews in TH-cam so far, except for (probably) paid videos.
Thank you so much Rachel and welcome aboard! I've seen the ads for the Dryden pens but they just seem to me to be a Chinese pen made by Jinhao, HongDian, Fuliwen or other Chinese OEM manufacturer and then branded, marketed and marked up in price like the Woodsworth & Black and many others including Monteverde. And since these come out of my own pocket, I'll pass. Sorry.
Wonderful fun review, I needed some humor today.
I’m glad Joel!
I was gifted one of their pens. An all stainless model. The nib was so bad it was unusable. Snagged paper and it wouldn’t feed ink to the nib. No amount of cleaning and adjusting would help. It looked kind of cool but was the worst fountain pen I ever encountered. I stopped short of opening the channel on the feed and I don’t keep a nib tuning kit on hand (a pen shouldn’t need that out of the box anyway).
Emailed W&B to no response.
Finally gave up, found a random German iridium nib in a box of parts. Pulled the feed out of a no name Chinese pen. Scrapped the W&B converter for a Wing Sung and Installed everything in the W&B. It writes OK now. Thought about putting in an ebonite feed but couldn’t justify it.
The box is very nice. It did come with the six ink cartridges.
...and I really like my Jinhao 51A. My expectations are pretty flexible.
Thanks, JT. Sorry about the W&B but they are just another "western" front for inexpensive Chinese $3 pens with a big markup and marketing hype.
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks for the reply, Doug. I was inspired to rebuild it while watching a your videos. Then I saw this one. Sad thing is I have a few $5 Chinese pens that are great. Nothing sophisticated but they work, no skips, no hard starts and I can drop them in a bag or coat pocket without worry of wear or scratching. I’d hesitate to give even away the W&B.
Thanks for making such great content! Bonus points for reviewing pens that don’t require a bank loan and forfeit of an arm!
A dog’s breakfast! 🐶 Would that be a whoof, whoof or a woof, woof?
More like bow wow.
Thanks to you and your pen friend, Janice! My guess is that she's in no hurry to have it back, maybe the box and the nib. Loved your
assembly of supporting clips--you treaded the fine line between dog's breakfast and delightful arrangement, beautifully. Lots of fun!
Noted the umlaut in Black, double-extra elegant and distinguished, lol! Cheers!
Ian says "bläck" is Swedish for "ink" so go figure!
@@InkquiringMinds More lol! China, UK, Sweden, no wonder the branding's off-center, can't hold still long enough.
Ugh edges, edges, edges...I think I cut my fingers just by watching this (excellent) review. This pen looks as if the designer never had seen a real fountain pen before. Maybe you can wrap it in some colurful scotch tape to hide the design (and protect the wood) and still be able to use it.
And then my gaze returns to the freshly arrived Eversharp Skyline on my desk waiting for restoration later today and I think to myself "What a beautiful pen"...
Ooh Eversharp vintage.
No urge to buy that pen here. Nothing spell quality to me. Mr Paquette 's pen is much more apealing... Thanks for the video
Thanks, Luc!
I have this pen...lol it's a present from my brother(whit another Picasso pen)......I never used seriously.....cheap pen but good writer,same my model.
A real fountain pen expert never buy this pen
This nib writes nicely.
@@InkquiringMinds yeah
@@francescomotolese4644 I suspect most, if not all, are bought as gifts as they come in a nice box, and non fountain people will not catch the hints that this is a crap design Chinese pen. That is their despicable marketing tactic. I never buy anything from companies like that. Often done with candy/chocolate boxes/tins/baskets by mail order, where a fifty dollar package has five dollars of candy in a really pretty box, and plenty of paper stuffing taking up the majority of the space. Who is going to tell granny/auntie/etc that they had been had, when they were just trying to send you something nice. I loathe the people that operate these businesses.
I picked up the Silver Chrome erudite pen. It's a decent pen, medium nib, smooth flow. The only issue I have with it it the very slim grip position which forces me to hold it higher up the shaft. Not the worst $30 dollars I've spent.
I have an inexpensive Tradio Pentel pen that I found at the local office supply store. Just give it a shake before you start to write and it works beautifully with Stormy Grey!!
Thanks for the tip!
The box is nice.
Regarding products from China, we're currently on the CCP's naughty list for speaking out about human rights abuses. Not banned, per se, just more problematic.
The box IS nice. And yes.
@@InkquiringMinds If I got this as a gift I would definitely stress that it is a very nice box, and not really talk about the pen. :)
What a nice introduction to Wordsworth and Black. It's a lovely pen for small hands and that price point is killer; however, this pen wouldn't suit me on my pen journey. Just waiting for the PenBBS 456 Blue Galaxy to drop. I was hoping it would last week, but no such luck. Here is hoping we see it soon. Please stay healthy and safe. Thank you!
You and me both, Annie. I set my alarm last Sunday morning for 7am, 8am, 9am... and so on. Nothing. I'm crossing my fingers for this Sunday.
I've been checking multiple times per day since last Saturday when you clued me in. I've seen quite a few things added back to the inventory, but alas no galaxy pens yet...sigh. Oh, and my shipment from them has stalled out in San Francisco. It arrived there last Saturday, but hasn't budged. So close, yet so far away.
Thanks for a fine review. It confirmed my suspicions regarding the design and fit/finish. Thanks!
Thanks Bill!
They just bought a job lot from Alibaba. Nothing wrong with that, but why pretend it’s in any way “British”? Very sad.
You _think_ ? Do "job lot" Alibaba pens carry the W & B insignia on the clip? These pens are all identical so how could they be a job lot purchase when job lots are, by definition, miscellaneous collections of different items?
The only branding on the pen is the lightly laser engraved clip. I would guess they do that in the UK with their own laser engraver.
@@InkquiringMinds Or when they pull them from inventory to ship them to whomever ordered some to resell.
A few months back I was getting TH-cam ads for a pen that looked like generic Chinese brass and wood pen that can be had for about five bucks, but branded and in a very nice box for about hundred. I guess five for pen, five for box, twenty for TH-cam ads, and seventy for the bastard doing that.
Now be fair, it could have been designed in Britian, late on a Friday night after several hours in the pub, by a bunch of people all putting their ideas down on a very wet beer mat and rushing because the landlord is about to throw you out.
I don't like this pen. Too ugly for my taste.
Me too!
@@InkquiringMinds 👍👍🇪🇸🇪🇸💡💡
Hi, does Wordsworth and Black use a no.6 nib? Really appreciate your reviews!
The one on this pen is a #5.
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks for replying.
It is indeed a great pen.
When I go on Amazon to look for anything remotely stationery/art supply they put these or similar brands of pens in the search results like it or not. If it lasts a while it could become someone's treasured pen.
All because Jinhao and other Chinese names sound too foreign and scary...I guess. They used all their leftover hardware on these chimera pens, though. Let no part go to waste 😝
Yeah, Dryden is the same although I've not held one. People would rather buy a "quality" western name on a Chinese pen than the real Chinese pen because that's just being patriotic. Idiotic in my book.
If someone's that shallow they deserve what they get. Some brand with a tryhard name pops up using phrases like "especially made for chic people" and bad photoshop in their ads screams generic to me. Might be good, might be trash but it's rebranded.
Then they add "designed in the US" somewhere to reassure the people that skim the text. If you don't know China is the world's factory by now you're sleeping
*drops mic and kicks soapbox down the street*
I'm silly.
@@amyr.862 No one buys these for themselves. Scam people that need a gift, and buy without much research. That us why they buy ads to place in top of the listing.
Genuine not genius ahahah....lol CHINA PEN(IN BAD SENSE)
PS posting probably crack inner black cap....
Yeah I noticed that too.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL - great.
Thank you, Parma Abogados.!
Caps heavier than the barrel lol
IKR? Odd choices.
@@InkquiringMinds Very.
I was suspicious about this pen when I saw it being sponsored on Amazon and everytime I tried to do a pen search this brand would come up first. I am glad that you reviewed it, which let's me know my suspicions were right. The other thing is that the two gold bands look to be of slightly different width. Is that so or is it a optical illusion? At least bamboo is eco friendly as it grows like grass. If they are advertising everywhere, paying for sponsoring on Amazon, the manufacturing costs must be really cheap to sell it at the price they are. I wonder how many chinese pens are actually made in China rather than Vietnam and other really low manufacturing cost places. Thanks for the video.
I gave the pen back to Janice after the review, so I can't say about the bands.
I had a long day at work today. I needed this. The ass whooping lifted my spirits.
LOL Oh, I dunno, Oscar. I don't think I whooped any ass here. There is good and bad. I left the ass whoopin' for the FPR Himilayan. ;)
@@InkquiringMinds, I think they just got lucky with the nib. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Gotta agree with the other comment; that’s not bamboo. Bamboo doesn’t grow rings.
@@InkquiringMinds Well this pen looks like crap, but it writes well. The FPR pens often look great, but don't really write at all. Ugly wins this one.
@@InkquiringMinds My FPR Himilaya 2 with the flex nib writes just fine. You must have whooped his ass real good!
Very detailed and helpful review (as usual!) and suggests to me that I should pass. I am going for another fountain pen that you reviewed. Thanks A Lot.
Glad it was helpful!
Once again, Doug (or rather pen friend Janice) takes one for the team! I save lots of money whenever you post about a disappointing pen!
As an artist myself, I wonder what people are able to do with Medium sized nibs... I can never get the detail that I want from them. I feel like mediums are largely preferred by the fountain pen writing community, but most of the artists I know either use fine or extra fine. Could be a good video idea for my channel. Thanks for the review!
Thank you, nib.pickin'!
Haha me too! Helps out a lot!
Hey Doug! Thanks for showing this pen up close... Been tempted a couple of times... Glad I got the Dryden instead! I have another cheap pen you may be interested in... An all metal, hooded nib, , weighted towards the business end(yay!), a wet, mediumish nib! On Amazon called 'Boer Writer's Pen' $13 American I think. I actually like it!
@@neofliermike Baoer fountain pens are great!
In the manufacturing industry you have your hits and you have your misses. This pen definitely belongs in the latter.
True, Andrew!
Every time I have seen this listed somewhere I figured it was one of those pens bought by non fountain pen people as gifts for their fountain pen using friends or family who will not use it, but won't complain about the gift. Many companies operate like this as people aren't likely to complain about gifts, as that wouldn't be polite, and you don't want to ruin the gifter's joy. I find this despicable. Part I would like best is the nice box I suspect. Design isn't design, but more of an exercise of "what can you assemble from this grab bag of parts we have available at the factory." At least the nib works, but perhaps don't attach it to dog's breakfast.
I doubt the dog would lick it up! LOL
Thanks for this amazing review, but can you please do a review on the Wordsworth & black majesti? I have been meaning to buy that pen for a while but have only seen about 1 review on it, so I would love to see your opinion on it, thanks!
The W&B pen was a loan for the review. I doubt I would spend my own money on one.
it is a great pen , if you are buying it for a 3 year old with no sence of design. :)
LOL
It probably should come with a warning not for children under 3 because its got sharp places.