Seeing my game featured scared me half to death. But shoot yeah, looking over the trailer for my game I do realize that I added WAY TO MUCH glitching effects for transitions xP but it's interesting about adding in game audio as "flavor crystals" definitely like that one. Also need to just show pure gameplay or pure text so it's not to overstimulating, and then the last bit about just showing one or two social media channels is a God send. I'll take it all to heart and work on making my marketing skills better! :D
I've been a fan of Dani before he even started developing karlson, he inspired me to code but now i dont feel like doing it, but everytime i see him in a random video it makes me feel happy and makes me want to code again
Actually in the Firewatch trailer, the beggining part was the worst one for me, it felt like he is playing with us and after he threw the fireworks, nothing really happent... They just tumbled aside. But the rest of the trailer was amazing, it had a form and the story and gameplay was nice.
Thank you so much Jonas and Derek for showing Mr Pips and giving feedback. Your video publishing timing was perfect, got to see and react to this live on stream this morning. Such an epic surprise! 😁 We will take this to heart! ♥️ Derek, we watched your channel for tips when making the video, made all the difference! 😁
Great video and an amazing surprise to see Derek involved! I was anticipating this Trailer review, but the inclusion of the Trailer-King makes it even better!
This was pretty informative, big thanks to Jonas and Derek. I'll check out his channel. :) And thanks to everyone who sent in trailers. It's much more helpful to see what can improve trailers when the trailers aren't all high budget productions. But seriously, how is that last game made by one person?
33:00 This reminded me of a great GDC talk I saw about how you should "make the trailer before the game." At first it sounded ridiculous, but then when I tried it I realized how much it helps to focus on trailer content as early as possible. It gave me a small, concrete goal to work toward when it felt like there was so much to do as a solo dev. And more importantly, it helped take my disjointed ideas about the game and really solidify them into a coherent plan. Even if you never end up releasing that original draft of the trailer, I think every developer should at least plan it out at some point during pre-production. It makes you dial in on the most important aspects of the game, and can complement a GDD as a tool to keep you focused on the right stuff.
OMG I remember playing a very early version of buddy simulator, didn't get far, got stuck early on in the text adventure part, it also was just text, no graphics, yes it had the emulation of a CRT but it was still just 100% text
At 39:50 he uses Untitled Goose Game as an example of a game that doesn't look really pretty but succeeded, and this was to explain that that was rare and not to expect it. I have an issue with this thinking because Untitled Goose Game does look appealing visually despite it's low poly style. The reason being that your graphics don't need to be the prettiest thing your audience has ever seen. Your graphics simply need to be visually appealing for the gameplay you're trying to make. It's a question of cinematography. Untitled Goose Game's graphics are gorgeous for a cartoon concept like playing a goose thief simulator which is what this game is designed to be. If you're not making a game that suits a lower poly visual style, then absolutely the art will hold your trailer back. The low poly and bold color aesthetic of Untitled Goose Game is not bad art or visuals. It's perfect art for that game concept and immediately sets the tone for the trailer. If you want to use low poly graphics, you need to match your gameplay to that same aesthetic.
@@ManorLords Well good luck! It was a good trailer too! I only wish it had more details on gameplay. Because i noticed you seem to have a combat system taking inspiration from that of the likes of total war, or perhaps strongholds. Which is really what this game reminds me of the most by the trailer alone. In any case damn well done sir. :)
NOO JONAS HE WASNT TALKING ABOUT THAT JUMP! He was talking about the second and third shotgun shot in the whole video. Also why is every section called buddy simulator 1984.
In "The Room of 2 Monsters", when it eddited out the subtitles, i noticed the sound design better, cuz i was trying to read and comprehend everything, and was almost overwhelming... ad the red blurry font in this context it's another rock in the way, but without subs, everything works better. But i would play this game, it seems really interesting, and the story is cool i guess... So... was this trailer strangely effective?
Jonas youre a big part why a 28 year old me is trying to finish his degree and start programming. Currently wanting to learn a bit too much but hey gotta catch up from slacking xD
I was rewatching the Room of 2 Monsters trailer because I think it has a lot of potential the text just has bad timing cause too much is happening at once and some things feel like they go by too quickly-- and some things feel like they were spoiled too much and I was giving my own pretend commentary,, and then I saw Derek's cat in the background right after and I'm sorry but I couldn't pay more attention to what you were saying because I was looking at the cat
To be honest, I don't like most of the advice he gave. It feels like he's pandering to the lowest common denominator, which is probably a good practice in major releases, but these are indie games. You want to have the style of the developer in the trailer just as much as in the game. For example, I've never watched a game trailer without in-game music and thought to myself "I have no idea if this game has sound. Does it? Is there something wrong with it?" I've always just thought to myself (like with the puzzle game Palindrome Syndrome) "What a whimsical trailer. I like it. I might like this game." Also, I disagree with what he was saying about Buddy Simulator's theme mixing or whatever you want to call it. In a game like that, you don't want the trailer to be screaming at you THIS IS A SUBVERSIVE GAME WITH SUBVERSIVE HORROR ELEMENTS. It's not subtle at all, and it would tell me that the author isn't able to be subtle, which is exactly what subversive horror needs. Most of us aren't mentally toddlers. It's okay if there's a bit of subtly, style, or mystery in a game trailer, especially if that's appropriate to your game.
Thanks for your thoughts! Most of my tips are about making each thing easy to understand in order to communicate the vision of the creator. I think there’s a fine line between easy to understand and talking down to the audience (which I don’t suggest) If someone purposefully doesn’t use music I think that’s great! My observation from talking to developers is many of them don’t do it intentionally, but rather just because it was easier or they forgot to turn off music while capturing. I just want to make people aware of the creative decisions they might unknowingly be making which will affect their trailer.
Hey Jonas, I sent you a message on your website about my game where you collect sounds as a music producer in a dream world. You then use these to unlock songs with artists. Would be so great to get a review from you!
Other thank the karlson trailer I thought everything but the mall and island trailer was good with the mall I didn’t really get what you would be doing in the game and the island trailer was a bit bland
Super interesting video Jonas, enjoyed it a lot (except for the part where you exposed me for my 2-frame fail)
Hi Dani its my first time to be first
you are very hardworking. I like that about you Dani
DANI!!!! RESPOND ME PLS
Hi dadi
He is the real one, just click on his icon thing
Good game trailer: exists
Ads in the middle of it: I’m about to ruin this mans whole career
Ads were automatically placed by YT. Did it manually now so should be fixed I hope. Sorry about that :)
@@JonasTyroller oh ty for that lol there was one inside of dani's trailer before but thanks for fixing :D!
Jonas Tyroller it’s no problem, I was just joking lol. Love ur vids
@@spacecadet_01 I was on mobile lol and I have an app that doesn't have apps but I like to support jonas:D
ad in an ad. ADSEPTION
Game trailers are so essential to helping get games out there and I'm glad to see all the different styles of presenting games!
Yeah, it's insane how no trailer is like the other.
Yes
@@JonasTyroller hi
@@JonasTyroller Hi I'm Seth and I'm making a superhero smash bros like fighting game called xenomon and you can react to trailer if you want
21:14 is when karlson trailer starts
Already in the description
*yes*
@@jnether0 lets be honest. Nobody uses the description unless they list the music.
@@ctrl_x1770 Boy I'm not sure you know the new feature in youtube but on mobile and maybe PC you get to split a video in parts using the description.
@@Exc4Iibur no like what music they used.
He looked kinda sad when he reviewed karlson and found basically no mistakes
Seeing my game featured scared me half to death. But shoot yeah, looking over the trailer for my game I do realize that I added WAY TO MUCH glitching effects for transitions xP but it's interesting about adding in game audio as "flavor crystals" definitely like that one. Also need to just show pure gameplay or pure text so it's not to overstimulating, and then the last bit about just showing one or two social media channels is a God send. I'll take it all to heart and work on making my marketing skills better! :D
Glad I could help!
Pog
I've been a fan of Dani before he even started developing karlson, he inspired me to code but now i dont feel like doing it, but everytime i see him in a random video it makes me feel happy and makes me want to code again
Actually in the Firewatch trailer, the beggining part was the worst one for me, it felt like he is playing with us and after he threw the fireworks, nothing really happent... They just tumbled aside.
But the rest of the trailer was amazing, it had a form and the story and gameplay was nice.
Haha oh well. I’m glad you liked the rest of it 😅
It would've been funny if the trailer right before was that FIreworks Mania game.
Yes, agree with this. Didn't really connect with the first part, it's kind of wasted space. After that though it's great.
Super useful tips and love seeing the breakdown. Definitely coming back to this when I'll be making a trailer!
Thank you so much Jonas and Derek for showing Mr Pips and giving feedback. Your video publishing timing was perfect, got to see and react to this live on stream this morning. Such an epic surprise! 😁
We will take this to heart! ♥️ Derek, we watched your channel for tips when making the video, made all the difference! 😁
I’m so happy to hear that!
Bro 69 likes N I C E.
I hope there will be more trailer reviews. Really useful video. Must agree that glitch effect on trailer #2 was too much.
Great video and an amazing surprise to see Derek involved!
I was anticipating this Trailer review, but the inclusion of the Trailer-King makes it even better!
This was pretty informative, big thanks to Jonas and Derek. I'll check out his channel. :) And thanks to everyone who sent in trailers. It's much more helpful to see what can improve trailers when the trailers aren't all high budget productions. But seriously, how is that last game made by one person?
Glad you enjoyed it, and I hope you like my channel! 😃
Can he review the new crab game trailer ?
Great video as always, really interesting to see some thoughts behind trailers in general! Thanks for taking a look at my game Scoot Kaboom :)
Your game looks awesome
33:00 This reminded me of a great GDC talk I saw about how you should "make the trailer before the game." At first it sounded ridiculous, but then when I tried it I realized how much it helps to focus on trailer content as early as possible. It gave me a small, concrete goal to work toward when it felt like there was so much to do as a solo dev. And more importantly, it helped take my disjointed ideas about the game and really solidify them into a coherent plan.
Even if you never end up releasing that original draft of the trailer, I think every developer should at least plan it out at some point during pre-production. It makes you dial in on the most important aspects of the game, and can complement a GDD as a tool to keep you focused on the right stuff.
there wasn’t a drum hit on the beat like every other part. There IS dissatisfaction on my end too.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm glad I was able find Derek Lieu
The only thing I don't like about the karlson trailer is that the narrator says "meet billys brother" and then that's it
ZiggyZeg 2005 that isn't the narrator that is billy
What else is there to say about it
@@-loarado idk, like...Guns?
It just feels a bit abrupt
@@nikel1623 the narrator isnt named yet but Billy is the smell robot and Billy brother is big robot I dont want spoil the lore tho
Shut SHUT SHUT SHUT
dani: karlson out 2020/2021
2022: *is less than 3 months away*
dani: *chuckles* in in danger
OMG I remember playing a very early version of buddy simulator, didn't get far, got stuck early on in the text adventure part, it also was just text, no graphics, yes it had the emulation of a CRT but it was still just 100% text
Buddy simulator 1984 trailer gave me goosebumps
I love how this guy is confident about how normal it is to spend thousands of dollars on a game trailer
28:00
Jonas low key asking for a quote to make a trailer for will you snail
Manor Lands looked like The Settlers using Google map + streetview. Interesting game.
At 39:50 he uses Untitled Goose Game as an example of a game that doesn't look really pretty but succeeded, and this was to explain that that was rare and not to expect it. I have an issue with this thinking because Untitled Goose Game does look appealing visually despite it's low poly style. The reason being that your graphics don't need to be the prettiest thing your audience has ever seen. Your graphics simply need to be visually appealing for the gameplay you're trying to make. It's a question of cinematography. Untitled Goose Game's graphics are gorgeous for a cartoon concept like playing a goose thief simulator which is what this game is designed to be. If you're not making a game that suits a lower poly visual style, then absolutely the art will hold your trailer back. The low poly and bold color aesthetic of Untitled Goose Game is not bad art or visuals. It's perfect art for that game concept and immediately sets the tone for the trailer. If you want to use low poly graphics, you need to match your gameplay to that same aesthetic.
Wow, the Fireworks Mania Trailer Looks Good!
Dani's shotgun sound was actually a quarter note after the beat. I thought it was a nice changeup and sounded cool
Fair enough. :D
The glitch one triggers epilepsy
(Third one)
lol the buddy simulator really is like a playable version of perscop! nice!
45:00 omg sitting doctor is UI element thats hilarious xD
Plot twist: Jonas is doing this for material for his trailer on his game.
OKAY WHAT?!?
That last tralier is a game and a tralier made by a solo dev?!? WHAT
O_O
Aight I'm interested.
Yo :) Three years in, many more to go...
@@ManorLords Well good luck! It was a good trailer too! I only wish it had more details on gameplay. Because i noticed you seem to have a combat system taking inspiration from that of the likes of total war, or perhaps strongholds. Which is really what this game reminds me of the most by the trailer alone.
In any case damn well done sir. :)
NOO JONAS HE WASNT TALKING ABOUT THAT JUMP! He was talking about the second and third shotgun shot in the whole video. Also why is every section called buddy simulator 1984.
Ikr
Buddy 1984 was so fucking sick. I agree the start was slow but the end so good
Where is Gronions? I thought I would find it and kept looking but nothing :(
Great video!! Learned a lot from this thank you for sharing insights
3:37 LMAO that sound is literally the default preset from the Flex VST in fl studio
I Knew It
I love the track at 7:22 for Palindrome Syndrome!
That last trailer. Solo developer? WOW!
You need to make new video for the grab game trailer by dani. It's epic!!!
yes do the crab game trailer
I liked playing firewatch a lot. It made me want to do that job for real. Maybe one day after my kids grow up.
You can also rent out some fire lookout towers if you just want to stay in one for a few nights! 😃
You should've asked him to look at your Will You Snail trailer
In "The Room of 2 Monsters", when it eddited out the subtitles, i noticed the sound design better, cuz i was trying to read and comprehend everything, and was almost overwhelming... ad the red blurry font in this context it's another rock in the way, but without subs, everything works better.
But i would play this game, it seems really interesting, and the story is cool i guess... So... was this trailer strangely effective?
wow SO MUCH INFO!!
heard nothing when the kitty was on screen....literally in one ear and out the other. Gotta pet the toe beans!
This is the correct response 😸
Damn I really wanted to submit one of my trailers
I wonder what he will say about the trailer of will you snail. hehe nice video super jonas, thanks!
when u see the thumbnail: i want to drink milk
These are the single 40 min videos that i watch. I love them.
Just how much ad did you put into this video goddamnit?!
Its time for him to react to CRAB GAME!
React to Crab Game trailer
Make a video about releasing DLC updates on games please
Oh you gone love the crab game
I thought you would add "will you snail's" trailer also
Dani game trailer in this lists.
Dani: smash wishless karison on steam
I just got here because I saw karlson at the background and that's it
I watch this video just to watch them reacting Dani's trailer
Inner path looks Hollow knight-esque
Seems like "The Room of 2 Monsters" was canceled becuase the blogspot link is dead and there is nothing on Steam. Too bad, that one got my interest
I'm actually early???? wow
Seems like it. Neat. :D
Hey Jonas, your opinion about UI stays the same?
Derek's Newsletter link on description is wrong
Me: wanna make a game
Also me: dosent have a pc
lol, I really want to see the viewer retention graph for this video
The Karlson trailer is "just for fun"!? Why YOU dont try make a 3d parkour fps (or you cant do that)
38:43 his cat 😂
Jonas youre a big part why a 28 year old me is trying to finish his degree and start programming. Currently wanting to learn a bit too much but hey gotta catch up from slacking xD
YESSSS KARSON TRAILER
I was rewatching the Room of 2 Monsters trailer because I think it has a lot of potential the text just has bad timing cause too much is happening at once and some things feel like they go by too quickly-- and some things feel like they were spoiled too much and I was giving my own pretend commentary,, and then I saw Derek's cat in the background right after and I'm sorry but I couldn't pay more attention to what you were saying because I was looking at the cat
And, plus he just wants his trailers to be funny and not just showing a boring idea of the game to the crowd, “EXPERT”.
21:14 finally,a good trailer
Plus i am a fan of Dani
Is that karlson in the thumbnail?
Awesome content!
Is that a dead body? 26:37
Karlson starts at 21:18
What can I say except your welcome
Correction grapling sword
No one will see this but fire watch was a great game to watch you tubers play
Very interesting, but boy, that were a lot of ads there, I think 13 or so
when and where did you asked about sending you our game trailers? i missed that, wanted you to have a look at mine =(
As a community post on this YT channel and in our game dev Discord. I'd recommend bringing your trailer to one of Derek's live streams. ;)
@@JonasTyroller cool. I've subscribed to Derek, waiting for his stream. Thanks!
Buddy simulator reminds me of fnaf's minigame cutscenes
same
Crab game trailer, best trailer.
"Get to the point, if it's gameplay heavy keep narration to a minimum"
Stellaris trailers does the total opposite and they're awesome :v
this is my trailer but idk how to make trailers so this is as good as i can go yet (btw 12 im)
buddy simulator is a masterpiece!! very great game and the trailer also
To be honest, I don't like most of the advice he gave. It feels like he's pandering to the lowest common denominator, which is probably a good practice in major releases, but these are indie games. You want to have the style of the developer in the trailer just as much as in the game.
For example, I've never watched a game trailer without in-game music and thought to myself "I have no idea if this game has sound. Does it? Is there something wrong with it?" I've always just thought to myself (like with the puzzle game Palindrome Syndrome) "What a whimsical trailer. I like it. I might like this game."
Also, I disagree with what he was saying about Buddy Simulator's theme mixing or whatever you want to call it. In a game like that, you don't want the trailer to be screaming at you THIS IS A SUBVERSIVE GAME WITH SUBVERSIVE HORROR ELEMENTS. It's not subtle at all, and it would tell me that the author isn't able to be subtle, which is exactly what subversive horror needs.
Most of us aren't mentally toddlers. It's okay if there's a bit of subtly, style, or mystery in a game trailer, especially if that's appropriate to your game.
Thanks for your thoughts! Most of my tips are about making each thing easy to understand in order to communicate the vision of the creator. I think there’s a fine line between easy to understand and talking down to the audience (which I don’t suggest)
If someone purposefully doesn’t use music I think that’s great! My observation from talking to developers is many of them don’t do it intentionally, but rather just because it was easier or they forgot to turn off music while capturing. I just want to make people aware of the creative decisions they might unknowingly be making which will affect their trailer.
I want to play the last one now !!!
Heads up some people are jerks on the internet some are giving constructive criticism. Maneuver through that stuff and you’ll find good ideas.
I only watched for Karlson.
11:12 great but i cant read like a sonic
My name is Dereck😳
wow thats very cool
Uhoh, the milk gang will remember this
Hey Jonas, I sent you a message on your website about my game where you collect sounds as a music producer in a dream world. You then use these to unlock songs with artists. Would be so great to get a review from you!
whislist karlson now gamers
Other thank the karlson trailer I thought everything but the mall and island trailer was good with the mall I didn’t really get what you would be doing in the game and the island trailer was a bit bland
I'm a simple person, I see karlson, I click
I came just for this 21:14
how dare you frame shame dani
lol that rhymed