Spend a thousand dollars on the suspension and you're right there with the rest of the advanced bikes. I ride with guys that use Trainers and they absolutely shred. The bikes are super durable and you are 100% correct about the kickstarter, you don't need to add one. One guy we ride with has over 10,000 miles and 500 hours on stock bottom end including the starter! Crazy good bike, those Beta's.
Just added an fmf gnarly for a RR to my 23 xtrainer....it really opens up the power all around compared to stock, and provides even more low end torque so even less gear changing. Would recommend! AMP Suspension is next on the list
It's definitely a hard enduro machine. It won't keep up in the high speed hare scramble section but slow technical is awesome. I'm not a big fan of the bike in standard form tho and for "me" it needs a few modifications. Great video mate. Cheers from the Team here. 💪💪
Great video and I agree with everything 100%. I’m at 55hrs on my ‘23 and I wouldn’t want any other bike for nasty stuff even if I have to give some up on the fast sections.
@Garage2Trail before I’m willing to spend thousands more on the bike, I’m gonna finish paying the bike off 😆 until then I’ll just “deal with it”. adding a new front gummy tire did help a lot with keeping it more planted
@@AaronsEnduro good idea lol. I’m still running the stock front tire and It does not inspire confidence whatsoever when I’m chopping along an off camber section with hidden rocks and small logs…she wants to wash out a lot in those situations unless I’m very precise with wheel placement. That’s probably my biggest gripe with the bike now, and nice to hear a simple tire change can help. Thanks!
@Garage2Trail swaping to gummy tires front n rear made a huge difference, threw a kenda ibex on up front and a dunlop at81ex on the rear and its a whole new weapon. The front tire made a huge boost in confidence knowing the front end will hold instead of washing out
I love your videos man, and your honesty. I wanted to do some jumps as well so the X trainer just wasn't for me unfortunately but I do like it alot. I'm 95kilos and 6ft so I ended up going a new ktm 350excf 2023 on special. I just couldn't do the 2 stroke even though I did want too but I wanted something I'm used too. I do love it though.
Great Report, love it❤ On my Bucket List. Still loving my small KLX which will get after the New Year Holidays my second Power Upgrade up to about 190 cc (Piston Size 66 mm).
Rode with a number of buddies on XTs. Good bikes for what they are designed for. I have had a couple of Beta 300rr bikes and I think they provide everything good on what the XT does then also beyond what the XT can't do. If you feel you have outgrown the XT get a 300rr.
One thing the 300rr can never be is the smaller frame size of the x trainer. Although id like to have both and make one into a street legal 2 stroke lol i still love the x trainer, just not specifically when we’re doing more flowy fast trails. When were in the gnar its a fantastic bike
Reliable as can be, not one single issue, ive never been held back from a ride due to reliability. Only defects i had were the speedo not working and the front main sprocket seal leaked but beta covered both under warranty. Maintenance is the same as any other 2 stroke bike
What year is your bike? I know 20-22 they had a bad run of bearings that made it into some 250/300's. I believe Beta USA was replacing complete motors if it happened.
I'm reading about Suspension on these... obviously it can be a pricey upgrade. Are the stock ones just no good for wide open on Logging roads? I see the name Lucky cartridge tossed around a bit,(thats a replacement inside stock forks?) AMP as well, and of course KYB$$. thanks for any info . 😎
@@AaronsEnduro sounds like it from what I've seen. I'm on the fence with ordering one while I still can, but need to do a bit more homework on cost to upgrade one way or the other. It seems to be the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger just yet.
@kbw9008 ask yourself, are you riding more techy single track, or more open fast flowing trails and roads? If its the first choice, its a great bike, If its the second option, theres plenty of other bikes better suited to doing so
Spot on review imho I’d like to add the stock suspension doesn’t work the best at fairly high speed that is true but I run through trails and tracks at a solid 30-40mph and it’s fine if I run heavy woops then I have issues but the suspension has nothing to do with it 😂honestly though they are not great for hammering but anything else they work very well
When I’m trying to ride through river rock or blast rock the suspension feels terrible beyond 3rd gear. Hop onto my buddies te300 or xcw300 and it was night and day difference! If it’s smooth terrain it didn’t matter that much, but it was substantial IMO on the rocky terrain!
Yeah I would agree with you there but the xtrainer should be looked at as and I believe you do, as a trail bike that can and does exceed all expectations imo. If potential buyers are looking for a cheap 300 to hit the track or race the xtrainer is not the machine for that.
Spend a thousand dollars on the suspension and you're right there with the rest of the advanced bikes. I ride with guys that use Trainers and they absolutely shred. The bikes are super durable and you are 100% correct about the kickstarter, you don't need to add one. One guy we ride with has over 10,000 miles and 500 hours on stock bottom end including the starter! Crazy good bike, those Beta's.
Great to know! Thanks!
Just added an fmf gnarly for a RR to my 23 xtrainer....it really opens up the power all around compared to stock, and provides even more low end torque so even less gear changing. Would recommend! AMP Suspension is next on the list
Definitely something else to look into it!
What year RR Gnarly pipe did you buy? Just bought a 2024 Xtrainer and prefer the Gnarly over the Fatty. Thanks
It was a gnarly pipe for a '23 300rr
@@tomsutter3507 thanks!
I upgraded to the Beta Sach's factory suspension front and rear (albeit like 3k), but the bike is a weapon in all conditions now.
I really feel like the x trainer could be the ultimate weapon for single track with some good suspension on it!
It's definitely a hard enduro machine. It won't keep up in the high speed hare scramble section but slow technical is awesome. I'm not a big fan of the bike in standard form tho and for "me" it needs a few modifications. Great video mate. Cheers from the Team here. 💪💪
Great video and I agree with everything 100%. I’m at 55hrs on my ‘23 and I wouldn’t want any other bike for nasty stuff even if I have to give some up on the fast sections.
It’s hard to beat it at slow speeds! Perfect bike for the hard stuff!
@@AaronsEnduro have you decided if you are going to get any suspension work done?
@Garage2Trail before I’m willing to spend thousands more on the bike, I’m gonna finish paying the bike off 😆 until then I’ll just “deal with it”. adding a new front gummy tire did help a lot with keeping it more planted
@@AaronsEnduro good idea lol. I’m still running the stock front tire and It does not inspire confidence whatsoever when I’m chopping along an off camber section with hidden rocks and small logs…she wants to wash out a lot in those situations unless I’m very precise with wheel placement. That’s probably my biggest gripe with the bike now, and nice to hear a simple tire change can help. Thanks!
@Garage2Trail swaping to gummy tires front n rear made a huge difference, threw a kenda ibex on up front and a dunlop at81ex on the rear and its a whole new weapon. The front tire made a huge boost in confidence knowing the front end will hold instead of washing out
I love your videos man, and your honesty. I wanted to do some jumps as well so the X trainer just wasn't for me unfortunately but I do like it alot.
I'm 95kilos and 6ft so I ended up going a new ktm 350excf 2023 on special.
I just couldn't do the 2 stroke even though I did want too but I wanted something I'm used too. I do love it though.
Appreciate you watching! Enjoy the new bike!!
Anyone that is considering the Xtrainer should watch this video!
Probably very good For hard and duro , but is the very best Bike for single track around the Arkansas valley here in colorado
Good thought out video!
Great Report, love it❤ On my Bucket List. Still loving my small KLX which will get after the New Year Holidays my second Power Upgrade up to about 190 cc (Piston Size 66 mm).
Klx is still a great bike!
Oops not Ohlins but olle suspension that's why these bikes are $8299.
Youd think after this many videos id be better at making them by now 😂😆
Hydraulic clutch whaaaaaaat thats beast.
Brembo clutch is soooo nice
Rode with a number of buddies on XTs. Good bikes for what they are designed for. I have had a couple of Beta 300rr bikes and I think they provide everything good on what the XT does then also beyond what the XT can't do.
If you feel you have outgrown the XT get a 300rr.
One thing the 300rr can never be is the smaller frame size of the x trainer. Although id like to have both and make one into a street legal 2 stroke lol i still love the x trainer, just not specifically when we’re doing more flowy fast trails. When were in the gnar its a fantastic bike
Happy Days
OK, but what about reliability? Parts availability? Manufactures defects, Warranties? Maintenance?
Reliable as can be, not one single issue, ive never been held back from a ride due to reliability. Only defects i had were the speedo not working and the front main sprocket seal leaked but beta covered both under warranty. Maintenance is the same as any other 2 stroke bike
i agree with everything except reliability my crosstrainer had less than 100 hrs and had main bearing failure good luck getting support from Beta USA,
Thats unfortunate, BETA Canada has been fantastic for my warranty replacements. Couldn’t be any happier with how it played out
What year is your bike? I know 20-22 they had a bad run of bearings that made it into some 250/300's. I believe Beta USA was replacing complete motors if it happened.
I'm reading about Suspension on these... obviously it can be a pricey upgrade. Are the stock ones just no good for wide open on Logging roads? I see the name Lucky cartridge tossed around a bit,(thats a replacement inside stock forks?) AMP as well, and of course KYB$$. thanks for any info . 😎
Wide open in logging roads you’ll be fine, it’s high speed whoops or big jumps where youll notice theyll start to suck
@@AaronsEnduro thnx
You’ll find the bike less stable than other 300 2 strokes at higher speeds
@@AaronsEnduro sounds like it from what I've seen. I'm on the fence with ordering one while I still can, but need to do a bit more homework on cost to upgrade one way or the other. It seems to be the only thing keeping me from pulling the trigger just yet.
@kbw9008 ask yourself, are you riding more techy single track, or more open fast flowing trails and roads?
If its the first choice, its a great bike,
If its the second option, theres plenty of other bikes better suited to doing so
Spot on review imho I’d like to add the stock suspension doesn’t work the best at fairly high speed that is true but I run through trails and tracks at a solid 30-40mph and it’s fine if I run heavy woops then I have issues but the suspension has nothing to do with it 😂honestly though they are not great for hammering but anything else they work very well
When I’m trying to ride through river rock or blast rock the suspension feels terrible beyond 3rd gear. Hop onto my buddies te300 or xcw300 and it was night and day difference! If it’s smooth terrain it didn’t matter that much, but it was substantial IMO on the rocky terrain!
Yeah I would agree with you there but the xtrainer should be looked at as and I believe you do, as a trail bike that can and does exceed all expectations imo. If potential buyers are looking for a cheap 300 to hit the track or race the xtrainer is not the machine for that.
I want a xtrainer in the normal size.
Check out the new rr -x pro then!
Have you seen the video out there of some guy who did mods on his XTrainer and rode it in TKO?
I have not
@@AaronsEnduro I sent it to your Insta, just subbed to this channel!
Oh sorry, yes i did see the three seas video on that! But thanks for watching and subscribing!