Bro wdym. As one of the COTE scalers who has been writing and scaling for the Koji doc for months now this take is the culmination of that work and effort. While I agree that many non-COTE scalers drastically underrate the verse, having Koji > Akiyama is a valid take.
@@TheHuntsman1001 I think it would be better to have the Koji doc released first before making such claims. At least people would then know where you are coming from and be able to judge your take better. Right now the consensus is nowhere near having Koji above Akiyama, and it's certainly not a valid take yet. Also I noticed despite this being a full scale comparison, you refrained from including certain important categories. I don't know if this was to deliberately make Ayanokoji win or if you just did it out of ignorance or coincidence.
@@alidokadri What specific categories do you think were left out? This was just outsmarting and didn’t include physical cats like you could in full scale since Koji slams and I didn’t see the point. Otherwise what do you think I left out?
@@mehmetkabak9848i guess kiyokouji should have just continued bullying ayanokoji instead he's also making koji win and now literally making a tournament centred around him.
Alright I disagree on a lot of points and still think akiyama takes overall but im genuinly curious about one thing only what are ayanokojis acting skill feats that put him so high ? Ive seen a lot of people putting him over akiyama and light in acting skills recently but i cant remeber any feats that put him this high
Acting skills comes from V0 feats. Creating a persona which could fool the instructors monitoring him 24/7. He had such perfect control of his deception/acting that he could control his own heartbeat to maintain the facade. In the presence of adrenaline this is not biologically possible meaning his ability to exhibit self control for the sake of his persona was literally superhuman. This was all confirmed in V0 where we learned that his emotionless self is an act he was able to maintain it for years without being discovered.
Hello. Nice edit + W opinion. I would like to know how you scale Yuuichi and Light? Lately, it seems to me that they are VERY MUCH overrated, while Koji is underrated. I came across a video where, when comparing Yuuichi and Johan, Yuuichi won with very high difficulty. I hope that the X strategy analysis will come out faster. Excuse my English, I'm using a translator.
I would certainly agree with you. I also believe that Light and especially Yuuichi are very much overrated right now. Light by a little bit but Yuuichi by a lot.
I have koji ext diff(-) but agree with almost all cats distribution except strat complexity(close) and adaptability(by far) and diff should be higher a bit
@@TZILLA. You told me that you have never seen a comment like I wrote in your life and then you wrote "I have been watching SCD videos for 1 year". And now you really expect me to come and explain?
@@MattewClarke148 I didn’t say I’ve never seen a troll comment in my life from this community I’m talking about the message you said specifically which is “perfect human is underrated he is at souichi level” which to my knowledge no one has said.
Emotional understanding (understanding Yagami>>>understanding Yokoya’s thinking process in contraband), direct manipulation (inducing fear in Kei is much superior to comforting Nao), logical manipulation (Akiyama’s manipulation is too unrealistic in that regard. Meanwhile for Koji: „1. Yagami might have inferiority complex” „2. I will set a trap using his inferiority complex” „Result: Yagami falls for said trap”. Truly outstanding, Akiyama’s manipulation is much more plot armor reliant), fabrication (fabricating camera>>>fabricating fake cards. Koji is truly an outstanding citizen who had to pay his PP to do so, meanwhile Akiyama commited vandalism and made poor LGT workers fix this issue), concealment, misdirection, verbal-deception, strategy complexity, strategy adaptability, anticipation, trap evasion, strategy evasion (Ayanokoji avoided a standoff against Yagami>>>Akiyama who is authentic smuggling victim), deductive reasoning (Ayanokoji based on 3000 different observations before the game could deduce the moves Arisu will pick, thats much better than deducing Yokoya’s silly scheme), intuition (Ayanokoji knew about GUMMIE BEARS when he was FIVE, if thats not enough I dont know what is), fluid and crystallized methods (obvious, if anyone disagrees they havent read COTE), creativity (Ayanokoji got himself STABBED in the hand to ensure he won’t be expelled), leadership (Ayanokoji after few years had a total control of every student of 4 generation, himself), seeing through people, influence building (v1 slams), charisma (Ayanokoji got a girlfriend, meanwhile Akiyama is single) to Ayanokoji Low-mid diffs Imo W for being the only person to scale him correctly
Well then, let's get it out of the way now that it's over: Fluid Intelligence: Akiyama( This shouldn't have even been a debate tbh, Akiyama's Novel Problem Solving Capabilities vastly outweigh Ayanokouji's. Plus Akiyama's thinking is way more in line with logic than Ayanokouji's as observed throughout Liar Game. ) Abstract Thinking: Akiyama ( Pandemic Game feats are enough. Ayanokouji's abstract thinking in things like using the private points to save Sudo, utilizing the lack of cameras during Sudo's trial, his first year island exam strategy etc. don't come close. There's supposedly a gatekept feat in Ayanokouji's upcoming doc by DAX, but until then, this should go to Akiyama.) Critical Thinking: Akiyama ( Better analysis via Pandemic Game deduction, and he also gets reasoning via deduction, abduction and induction.) Emotional management: Akiyama ( Akiyama's management of others is certainly a tier or two above Ayanokouji's. Akiyama managed the emotions of a mentally healthy and experienced adult teacher into tension from fear and anxiety that he couldn't even sleep or eat for three days because of Akiyama's words, managed the emotions of people who hated him during bid Poker into trusting him( essentially Ayanokouji's management of Karuizawa but on a large scale), managed the entire Gaya from being persuaded from the medals to hating Yokoya and Harimoto's group, canceling any possible negotiations and getting them on his side, created hope for the people in Pandemic Game though the actions with Akagi through the magic trick of the circuit, managed Yokoya's suspicion by having Akagi to stand in front of him, plus he managed people's anxiety during the four kingdoms stage into trusting him and gaining his cooperation and even in Four Kingdoms Akiyama made Yokoya feel fear through his " entrusted to a human and entrusted to a demon" analogy. Ayanokouji's emotional management on the other hand, even if you argue that some were more complex, falter in comparison. A couple instances:
1. Karuizawa: Very easily pushed into an emotional response as seen up until volume 4, trying to cling onto Hirata out of internal fear from her trauma. Plus, she had already gotten into a very vulnerable emotional state after the assault from Manabe, so Ayanokouji emotionally manipulating her into feeling fear, despair and resignation, getting her to cooperate with him from there on out, didn't require a lot of effort. 2. Ichinose: inner trauma from her past, a similarly fragile emotional state that Sakayanagi and Ayanokouji easily broke. Ayanokouji was behind the entire situation, so when he emotionally manipulated her into trusting him in year 1 volume 9, she was already in a deep state of depression, resignation, anguish and fear. Getting her to come out of her room by saying her a few words that she needed to hear ( Like" everyone has the right to be forgiven.") isn't close to Akiyama's management of Nao's teacher. 3. Hirata: Even if we were to say that it was complex by Ayanokouji utilizing Mii-chan's actions in volume 11 when she was trying to reach out to Hirata, it would still be the same as the other two, comparable with the Ichinose one. Hirata was broken from inner guilt, Yamauchi's expulsion having reignited his trauma from seeing his friend attempt suicide in Junior high, depressed and drained by his ideology weighing on his shoulders. Ayanokouji showed leadership quality here but at the end of the day, what he did with Ichinose, he did here as well only here he also stated the facts to Hirata. A few words, and Hirata was back up again. His personality didn't change drastically, he simply matured and realized that sacrifices in ANHS are inevitable so he has to do his best to make sure he'll protect his classmates. Still, Akiyama's management of Nao's teacher places above. 4. Nanase: This is tricky because of the hints in year 2 volume 8 that there might have been acting from Nanase involved but regardless. Nanase was saddened, regretful that she blamed Ayanokouji for Matsuo and his son and tried to attack him and get him expelled. Ayanokouji showing her understanding and getting her cooperation from that point created hope for her, but Akiyama's Urushiki circuit trick during the Pandemic Game did that on a larger scale, in a more complex way and with much better persuasiveness. 5. Sakura: Sure, Sakura in year 2 volume 5 was a hopeful and slowly evolving individual because of the Ayanokouji group and her affection for Ayanokouji which he used to manipulate her into willingly accepting to be expelled because of the exam. This is a decent showcase of emotional manipulation from Ayanokouji. But it was a pretty specific case which heavily relied on Sakura's affection for him, which given Sakura's introverted nature, was easily done. Akiyama did that on a larger scale in Pandemic Game, through harder emotions and with strangers that had no emotional attachment to him and more efficiently. Even if Ayanokouji gets Intrapersonal and Self EM via Heart rate Hax, Akiyama certainly takes interpersonal and EM of others and the different is certainly more than enough.)
Emotional engagement: Akiyama≥ ( It's pretty close for Koji's persona creation but Akiyama's engaged people through harder emotions aside from himself, plus his willingness to carry on the debt of others andbasically die at the end of Liar Game showed better engagement with other people's emotions including his own, but this could change upon proper reevaluation once DAX finishes Ayanokouji's doc. Personally, the way I understand it, Ayanokouji's feat is better in Intra EE, because the thoughts and emotions he crafted in his mind were basically engaging himself rather than others in the first three year 1 volumes, since from various commentaries from Horikita throughout year 1 and his classmates, Ayanokouji never did any of that and was just seen as a loner by them at the time. Meanwhile, Akiyama engaged others in emotions, gathered people around him and showed much better connection with other people's emotions aside from his own. Again, I'll wait for DAX's upcoming Ayanokouji doc for proper evaluation.)
• Indirect manipulation: Let's start with Akiyama's manipulation of getting Yokoya to go without any sleep during Musical chairs: 1. Manipulate the entire Gaya into becoming an entire group, forcing Yokoya into making an alliance with Harimoto to save his medals. Yokoya, being as distrustful as he was, had to make sure that Harimoto didn't betray him by observing him the entire night, taking away precious sleep required to regain his energy and be able to move around efficiently on the island the next day, something vital given Yokoya's physical abilities. This resulted in Yokoya being fatigued and unable to break through the Gaya group that entrapped him by making a circle around him at the very last few minutes of the game. Ayanokouji's indirect manipulation of Yagami through the love letter heavily relied upon Yagami viewing the letter after he deciphered the anagram that only a White Roomer would as a challenge, which yes it worked because he had profiled Yagami, but when comparing the two, it was a lot more risky and up to chance because Yagami could have very well seen through it if not for his inferiority complex against Ayanokouji, while with Yokoya's hatred for him, Akiyama's manipulation was much less risky and much more efficient against a much harder opponent, even if you want to say Ayanokouji's love letter proved more creative and complex ( Akiyama slams in creativity through the Urushiki circuit trick, the megaphone card scratch and even the fake 1 million yen trap on the floor in Contraband are better shows of creativity than using points to buy a test point from Chabashira for Sudo or the anagram.) Hence the result, because on the one hand, Akiyama manipulated Yokoya into trying to utilize Gaya to win which was already in Akiyama's side through the Jump guy who acted as the representative of Gaya and on the other hand Ayanokouji made Takuya resort to an illogical action like the one in year 2 volume 7 with the office confrontation, which was the only option he had left. Another example of indirect manipulation is Akiyama indirectly manipulating through the aforementioned 1 million yen trap one of Yokoya's teammates into checking his metal case, revealing that he had indeed brought money for the inspection, allowing Akiyama to smuggle 100 million from him which achieved a great result in keeping the team in the race during Contraband. Also, the Urushiki circuit mentioned earlier, is a great complex and efficient display of indirect manipulation. Even if we were to say that Ayanokouji indirectly manipulating Ryuen into chasing after him via the mail in year 1 volume 6 was more complex, it didn't display similar level of creativity, efficiency or indirect manipulation. Plus it was basically his handwriting, a pretty risky attempt as well, that if properly researched from the school, given that Ayanokouji's handwriting had been in previous exams like the midterms, it would have led to him being revealed.
• Mass Manipulation: Contraband, Pandemic Game, Downsizing, Musical chairs, Four Kingdoms, Bid Poker. Akiyama has shown great feats in managing large groups of people. Ayanokouji's mass manipulation like the mail in year 1 volume 6, rumor chain in year 1 volume 9 and year 2 volume 5 with making the class turn against Kushida by exposing her actions might be better in magnitude and complexity but Akiyama's proved more efficient and swift in compiling results to boost his strategies.
• Setting traps: Gaya plan with Yokoya's encirclement, Four Kingdoms, Russian roulette strategy, exposing Kikuzawa's work with Yokoya during Contraband Game, first round. Ayanokouji's X Strategy, Love letter setup and rumor spreading may be impressive but Akiyama's traps were much better set
W edit and agree with the outcome However,sum points I disagree with EU def to koji (his deep understanding and excellent exploitation of the dynamic between suzune and manabu to grow suzune immensely in the future) Strat complexity most def to koji Concealment to koji (tsukishiro feat)
EU comfortably goes to Akiyama ( psychology knowledge that he literally applied to everyone of his strategies as seen in the Liar Game rounds. His profiling of Yokoya goes above Ayanokouji's profiling of Ryuen and Horikita and the things you mentioned. Even if you want to say that Ayanokouji's WR narrative backs up his psychology knowledge, Akiyama's knowledge application is way more apparent than his.) Strategy complexity ( Contraband Game, Musical chairs, Four Kingdoms? Ayanokouji's X Strategy and Love letter were many strategies mixed together rather than deeply complex.) Concealment ( If you are talking about the Tsukishiro feat from year 2 volume 2 after he scored perfectly and he didn't reveal that he had some idea about who the White Roomer was among the first years, Akiyama's concealments throughout Contraband are way more than enough. The most prominent one would be that he had seen through Yokoya's trap the entire time but kept that to himself to manipulate his team. )
I quite disagree with you giving Akiyama EU, since Ayanokoji stated himself having all the knowledge that a person can get in a lifetime, applying this to Academical/Educational purpose, and since psychology undertakes educational, I see koji taking this with his statement, plus even if koji narrativity said this knowledge can be a narrativity stance doesn't ignore it since showing the feat/statement are the same thing in knowledge. anyways that's all I disagree apart on everything else you said I agreed on.
@@TZILLA. bro finding x strategy is quite trash to be honest . Tell me what’s so special . He just wants to have kei as his pawn . And lead ryuen to find him . Nothing special indeed
@@NoNo-lb9os huntsman is making a full analysis on the X strategy that’s 80% done to my knowledge, I won’t give you misinformation which could lead to me giving you a false perception and understanding of the feat so I recommend waiting until the X strategy document comes out or ask a user named DAX.
I agree that Koji takes LR but I’m not sure that I have him taking it “easily”. If you found a new feat I assume you are a COTE scaler, if you are willing I’d like to discuss this on discord in more detail.
This is exactly why COTE scalers aren't taken seriously and Ayanokoji is constantly underrated by non-COTE scalers.
Bro wdym. As one of the COTE scalers who has been writing and scaling for the Koji doc for months now this take is the culmination of that work and effort. While I agree that many non-COTE scalers drastically underrate the verse, having Koji > Akiyama is a valid take.
@@TheHuntsman1001 I think it would be better to have the Koji doc released first before making such claims. At least people would then know where you are coming from and be able to judge your take better. Right now the consensus is nowhere near having Koji above Akiyama, and it's certainly not a valid take yet. Also I noticed despite this being a full scale comparison, you refrained from including certain important categories. I don't know if this was to deliberately make Ayanokoji win or if you just did it out of ignorance or coincidence.
@@alidokadri What specific categories do you think were left out? This was just outsmarting and didn’t include physical cats like you could in full scale since Koji slams and I didn’t see the point. Otherwise what do you think I left out?
@@mehmetkabak9848i guess kiyokouji should have just continued bullying ayanokoji instead he's also making koji win and now literally making a tournament centred around him.
@@aziz-nationalhaq6511what are you waffling about. KK even has Koji above Aki lmao
We burning the SCD community with this one 🔥 🔥
Nice edit, I personally have most MCs extreme diffing each other based on my own scaling.
big W scaling actually, but yuichi still gets no diffed 🥸
@@Hellboy-d1x lmao 😂
Do you consider Plot Armor or something?
@@VenerableImmortal He didn't say fang yuan relies on plot armor though
Alright I disagree on a lot of points and still think akiyama takes overall but im genuinly curious about one thing only what are ayanokojis acting skill feats that put him so high ? Ive seen a lot of people putting him over akiyama and light in acting skills recently but i cant remeber any feats that put him this high
Acting skills comes from V0 feats. Creating a persona which could fool the instructors monitoring him 24/7. He had such perfect control of his deception/acting that he could control his own heartbeat to maintain the facade. In the presence of adrenaline this is not biologically possible meaning his ability to exhibit self control for the sake of his persona was literally superhuman. This was all confirmed in V0 where we learned that his emotionless self is an act he was able to maintain it for years without being discovered.
@@TheHuntsman1001bro you gotta make a koji doc if you haven’t already 😅 I can tell you’re knowledgeable about his feats. Also w acting skills
Overall is one thing Akiyama doesn’t beat Koji in. U can think he outsmarts Koji but he in no way takes overall.
@@TheHuntsman1001 that is EM tho not acting skills
@@JadonF akiyama vs koji
Cat and mouse koji
Intellect koji
Physical koji
FS akiyama
NFS akiyama >=
RLS with Influence akiyama
RLS from scratch akiyama
We'll outsmart Lalo too with this one 🗣️
Why did Reasoning go to Koji 🤔?
Still a wild take 🥶🥶🥶🥶
Bro didn't you watch the video? Deductive reasoning go to Akiyama , but Abductive and Inductive reasoning to Ayanokoji
Deductive is debatable and inductive and Abductive are going to Koji.
Akiyama mid diffs and it isnt even close.
Very high diff and it is close
Zayy,I disagree with you about that,they're close for me tbh,But it's higher than Mid diff for me
Its close really really close
Ong , koji the best only in his verse this fukunaga victim get demolishes in liar game
@@Su_n222 living in your own world is wild 💀
bros finna make Koji mid diff and take all cats
Yea like he deserves
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@@moo9nplayz bro ran away knowing I would ask him to debate me 💀
@@mynameisntjoe3024 nah koji slams coz he is the perfect human
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And we'll be here to witness it.
😴😴😴...
@@mynameisntjoe3024
"Koji low diff tokuchi, akiyama and takes strategy" - 🤡
"Btw Koji > Baku extreme diff" - 🤡
Nice edit bro.
A joke can be delivered in a second.
There is no need to expand it into two and a quarter minutes.
If you want comedy check out some other SCD scalers (I won’t name names tho) but here you get valid takes based on facts and feats.
@@TheHuntsman1001 based on facts?
yeah that's another great pun right there
@@Potatoes4625Yeah I agree with you. The joke you just delivered is nice and only took me a second to read it.
W edit fr Goat ☕🙏
This Comment section proved how Overhated and Underrated Koji is lol
Prediction akiyama gets outsmarted
Hello. Nice edit + W opinion.
I would like to know how you scale Yuuichi and Light? Lately, it seems to me that they are VERY MUCH overrated, while Koji is underrated. I came across a video where, when comparing Yuuichi and Johan, Yuuichi won with very high difficulty.
I hope that the X strategy analysis will come out faster.
Excuse my English, I'm using a translator.
I would certainly agree with you. I also believe that Light and especially Yuuichi are very much overrated right now. Light by a little bit but Yuuichi by a lot.
Yt forgot to recommend me this peak video 😭
w edit bruda 😎👌
The koji mask off animation is peak ong 🔥
Glad you like it
I have koji ext diff(-) but agree with almost all cats distribution except strat complexity(close) and adaptability(by far) and diff should be higher a bit
PeRfect HuMan is UnDerRateD hE iS at Souichi lEvel🤓🤓
Literally have never seen a single comment say this and I’ve been watching SCD videos and it’s comments for like a year at this point
@@TZILLA. Ahh...Okay, maybe instead of telling us how it makes you feel to read this comment, you should try not to overrate Koji😮💨😮💨
@@MattewClarke148 can you explain how my message indicated I was “overrating koji” ?
@@TZILLA. You told me that you have never seen a comment like I wrote in your life and then you wrote "I have been watching SCD videos for 1 year". And now you really expect me to come and explain?
@@MattewClarke148 I didn’t say I’ve never seen a troll comment in my life from this community I’m talking about the message you said specifically which is “perfect human is underrated he is at souichi level” which to my knowledge no one has said.
W video
W video🎉
W edit + take fr
lần đầu tiên thấy Koji thắng Akiyama luôn á ông, quá sốc
@@tr.gianhu2510 đầy lần rồi
We need the Koji doc fr 🙏
W edit ☕
At least you scale Akiyama better than @EmileoAmvs.
We fairly rating koji with this one 🗣
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It true
Do you have a Doc of Ayanokoji is feats ?
I am working with a group of scalers to make one. We have made considerable progress so far but it isn't finished.
@@TheHuntsman1001Is Dax or Cento in the group?
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Yeah
I thought Ayakoji would take the emotional understanding, but is there any reason why Akiyama is better?
Because Akiyama has shown better feats in that regard throughout Liar Game. Even psychological analysis should have gone to him.
Because Akiyama negs
@@Andriku-CLAno i think psyco analys to koji is fair
@@moo9nplayz Not really. I'll explain why later today once I have fully completed my proper argumentation.
@@Andriku-CLA😮
W edit
Well let's see how this goes.
Massive W
Aki high diffs imo, though im eager to see the koji doc and how it will improve his scaling W edit
Huge W
Koji finally surpassed Akiyama 🗣🗣🗣💪💪💪
Never a moment he wasn’t, I have year 1 feats/statements that puts him above the verse and it isn’t close
Bro please do AIZEN vs L, kira and ayanokoji
Slams in narrative/normal scaling. Loses in PA. Without hax, Aizen loses but with hax he no diffs.
W edit could go either way tbh but il take koji extreme diffing fr
W man. Seeing through people to koji though.
Emotional understanding (understanding Yagami>>>understanding Yokoya’s thinking process in contraband), direct manipulation (inducing fear in Kei is much superior to comforting Nao), logical manipulation (Akiyama’s manipulation is too unrealistic in that regard. Meanwhile for Koji: „1. Yagami might have inferiority complex” „2. I will set a trap using his inferiority complex” „Result: Yagami falls for said trap”. Truly outstanding, Akiyama’s manipulation is much more plot armor reliant), fabrication (fabricating camera>>>fabricating fake cards. Koji is truly an outstanding citizen who had to pay his PP to do so, meanwhile Akiyama commited vandalism and made poor LGT workers fix this issue), concealment, misdirection, verbal-deception, strategy complexity, strategy adaptability, anticipation, trap evasion, strategy evasion (Ayanokoji avoided a standoff against Yagami>>>Akiyama who is authentic smuggling victim), deductive reasoning (Ayanokoji based on 3000 different observations before the game could deduce the moves Arisu will pick, thats much better than deducing Yokoya’s silly scheme), intuition (Ayanokoji knew about GUMMIE BEARS when he was FIVE, if thats not enough I dont know what is), fluid and crystallized methods (obvious, if anyone disagrees they havent read COTE), creativity (Ayanokoji got himself STABBED in the hand to ensure he won’t be expelled), leadership (Ayanokoji after few years had a total control of every student of 4 generation, himself), seeing through people, influence building (v1 slams), charisma (Ayanokoji got a girlfriend, meanwhile Akiyama is single) to Ayanokoji
Low-mid diffs Imo
W for being the only person to scale him correctly
Koji no diffs akifodder 🗣
The gummy bear feat was when he was 2 years old not 5
Insane reverse psychology🎭
Bro finally accepted that Akiyama =< Mello after losing the debate, W for being open minded
@@builtvip2948idk who claims Mello >= Aki but anyone who does is mentally challenged. Akiyama slams No diff and if I could give a lower diff I would.
IQ and Intelligence to koji rest to akigoat
akigoat wins neg diff
FSIQ> Strategy extreme diff (-)
like me i have ayanokoji wins high diff (+)
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Bro saw the comm is against lg and took his chance lmfao
*Sigh*
Tell me any other LG related vid he has made recently
@@tienluong9648 1 too many
Well then, let's get it out of the way now that it's over:
Fluid Intelligence: Akiyama( This shouldn't have even been a debate tbh, Akiyama's Novel Problem Solving Capabilities vastly outweigh Ayanokouji's. Plus Akiyama's thinking is way more in line with logic than Ayanokouji's as observed throughout Liar Game. )
Abstract Thinking: Akiyama ( Pandemic Game feats are enough. Ayanokouji's abstract thinking in things like using the private points to save Sudo, utilizing the lack of cameras during Sudo's trial, his first year island exam strategy etc. don't come close. There's supposedly a gatekept feat in Ayanokouji's upcoming doc by DAX, but until then, this should go to Akiyama.)
Critical Thinking: Akiyama ( Better analysis via Pandemic Game deduction, and he also gets reasoning via deduction, abduction and induction.)
Emotional management: Akiyama ( Akiyama's management of others is certainly a tier or two above Ayanokouji's. Akiyama managed the emotions of a mentally healthy and experienced adult teacher into tension from fear and anxiety that he couldn't even sleep or eat for three days because of Akiyama's words, managed the emotions of people who hated him during bid Poker into trusting him( essentially Ayanokouji's management of Karuizawa but on a large scale), managed the entire Gaya from being persuaded from the medals to hating Yokoya and Harimoto's group, canceling any possible negotiations and getting them on his side, created hope for the people in Pandemic Game though the actions with Akagi through the magic trick of the circuit, managed Yokoya's suspicion by having Akagi to stand in front of him, plus he managed people's anxiety during the four kingdoms stage into trusting him and gaining his cooperation and even in Four Kingdoms Akiyama made Yokoya feel fear through his " entrusted to a human and entrusted to a demon" analogy. Ayanokouji's emotional management on the other hand, even if you argue that some were more complex, falter in comparison. A couple instances:
1. Karuizawa: Very easily pushed into an emotional response as seen up until volume 4, trying to cling onto Hirata out of internal fear from her trauma. Plus, she had already gotten into a very vulnerable emotional state after the assault from Manabe, so Ayanokouji emotionally manipulating her into feeling fear, despair and resignation, getting her to cooperate with him from there on out, didn't require a lot of effort.
2. Ichinose: inner trauma from her past, a similarly fragile emotional state that Sakayanagi and Ayanokouji easily broke. Ayanokouji was behind the entire situation, so when he emotionally manipulated her into trusting him in year 1 volume 9, she was already in a deep state of depression, resignation, anguish and fear. Getting her to come out of her room by saying her a few words that she needed to hear
( Like" everyone has the right to be forgiven.") isn't close to Akiyama's management of Nao's teacher.
3. Hirata: Even if we were to say that it was complex by Ayanokouji utilizing Mii-chan's actions in volume 11 when she was trying to reach out to Hirata, it would still be the same as the other two, comparable with the Ichinose one. Hirata was broken from inner guilt, Yamauchi's expulsion having reignited his trauma from seeing his friend attempt suicide in Junior high, depressed and drained by his ideology weighing on his shoulders. Ayanokouji showed leadership quality here but at the end of the day, what he did with Ichinose, he did here as well only here he also stated the facts to Hirata. A few words, and Hirata was back up again. His personality didn't change drastically, he simply matured and realized that sacrifices in ANHS are inevitable so he has to do his best to make sure he'll protect his classmates. Still, Akiyama's management of Nao's teacher places above.
4. Nanase: This is tricky because of the hints in year 2 volume 8 that there might have been acting from Nanase involved but regardless. Nanase was saddened, regretful that she blamed Ayanokouji for Matsuo and his son and tried to attack him and get him expelled. Ayanokouji showing her understanding and getting her cooperation from that point created hope for her, but Akiyama's Urushiki circuit trick during the Pandemic Game did that on a larger scale, in a more complex way and with much better persuasiveness.
5. Sakura: Sure, Sakura in year 2 volume 5 was a hopeful and slowly evolving individual because of the Ayanokouji group and her affection for Ayanokouji which he used to manipulate her into willingly accepting to be expelled because of the exam. This is a decent showcase of emotional manipulation from Ayanokouji. But it was a pretty specific case which heavily relied on Sakura's affection for him, which given Sakura's introverted nature, was easily done. Akiyama did that on a larger scale in Pandemic Game, through harder emotions and with strangers that had no emotional attachment to him and more efficiently.
Even if Ayanokouji gets Intrapersonal and Self EM via Heart rate Hax, Akiyama certainly takes interpersonal and EM of others and the different is certainly more than enough.)
Emotional engagement: Akiyama≥
( It's pretty close for Koji's persona creation but Akiyama's engaged people through harder emotions aside from himself, plus his willingness to carry on the debt of others andbasically die at the end of Liar Game showed better engagement with other people's emotions including his own, but this could change upon proper reevaluation once DAX finishes Ayanokouji's doc. Personally, the way I understand it, Ayanokouji's feat is better in Intra EE, because the thoughts and emotions he crafted in his mind were basically engaging himself rather than others in the first three year 1 volumes, since from various commentaries from Horikita throughout year 1 and his classmates, Ayanokouji never did any of that and was just seen as a loner by them at the time. Meanwhile, Akiyama engaged others in emotions, gathered people around him and showed much better connection with other people's emotions aside from his own. Again, I'll wait for DAX's upcoming Ayanokouji doc for proper
evaluation.)
• Indirect manipulation: Let's start with Akiyama's manipulation of getting Yokoya to go without any sleep during Musical chairs:
1. Manipulate the entire Gaya into becoming an entire group, forcing Yokoya into making an alliance with Harimoto to save his medals. Yokoya, being as distrustful as he was, had to make sure that Harimoto didn't betray him by observing him the entire night, taking away precious sleep required to regain his energy and be able to move around efficiently on the island the next day, something vital given Yokoya's physical abilities. This resulted in Yokoya being fatigued and unable to break through the Gaya group that entrapped him by making a circle around him at the very
last few minutes of the game. Ayanokouji's indirect manipulation of Yagami through the love letter heavily relied upon Yagami viewing the letter after he deciphered the anagram that only a White Roomer would as a challenge, which yes it worked because he had profiled Yagami, but when comparing the two, it was a lot more risky and up to chance because Yagami could have very well seen through it if not for his inferiority complex against Ayanokouji, while with Yokoya's hatred for him, Akiyama's manipulation was much less risky and much more efficient against a much harder opponent, even if you want to say Ayanokouji's love letter proved more creative and complex ( Akiyama slams in creativity through the Urushiki circuit trick, the megaphone card scratch and even the fake 1 million yen trap on the floor in Contraband are better shows of creativity than using points to buy a test point from Chabashira for Sudo or the anagram.) Hence the result, because on the one hand, Akiyama manipulated Yokoya into trying to utilize Gaya to win which was already in Akiyama's side through the Jump guy who acted as the representative of Gaya and on the other hand Ayanokouji made Takuya resort to an illogical action like the one in year 2 volume 7 with the office confrontation, which was the only option he had left. Another example of indirect manipulation is Akiyama indirectly manipulating through the aforementioned 1 million yen trap one of Yokoya's teammates into checking his metal case, revealing that he had indeed brought money for the inspection, allowing Akiyama to smuggle 100 million from him which achieved a great result in keeping the team in the race during Contraband. Also, the Urushiki circuit mentioned earlier, is a great complex and efficient display of indirect manipulation. Even if we were to say that Ayanokouji indirectly manipulating Ryuen into chasing after him via the mail in year 1 volume 6 was more complex, it didn't display similar level of creativity, efficiency or indirect manipulation. Plus it was basically his handwriting, a pretty risky attempt as well, that if properly researched from the school, given that Ayanokouji's handwriting had been in previous exams like the midterms, it would have led to him being revealed.
• Mass Manipulation: Contraband, Pandemic Game, Downsizing, Musical chairs, Four Kingdoms, Bid Poker. Akiyama has shown great feats in managing large groups of people.
Ayanokouji's mass manipulation like the mail in year 1 volume 6, rumor chain in year 1 volume 9 and year 2 volume 5 with making the class turn against Kushida by exposing her actions might be better in magnitude and complexity but Akiyama's proved more efficient and swift in compiling results to boost his strategies.
• Setting traps: Gaya plan with Yokoya's encirclement, Four Kingdoms, Russian roulette strategy, exposing Kikuzawa's work with Yokoya during Contraband Game, first round. Ayanokouji's X Strategy, Love letter setup and rumor spreading may be impressive but Akiyama's traps were much better set
akiyama high-vhigh diffs for now I guess, but still w edit, I would like to know the reason but alright nvm.
Well,I know Koji wins but the diff...I knew it too,My prediction is Koji high diff or very high diff (-) 👽🗿
Koji mid diffs max
💀Akiyama is a Yuuichi victim for your scaling somehow
@@DAX-PMFT nah Koji low diffs Yuuichi. I expect you to have it around no-very low diff right ?
@@Ayanogoat. Around there, yes
@@DAX-PMFT w Take i guess
delirium
W Huntsy 🗿
W, at least I'm not the only one who thinks that Ayanokoji beats akiyama
Akiyama beats Ayanokoji extreme diff. This is just a fact buddy.
Akiyama very high diffs koji
Baku very high diffs akiyama
Fax
What? Akiyama beats Ayanokoji, extreme diff.
W edit and agree with the outcome
However,sum points I disagree with
EU def to koji (his deep understanding and excellent exploitation of the dynamic between suzune and manabu to grow suzune immensely in the future)
Strat complexity most def to koji
Concealment to koji (tsukishiro feat)
EU comfortably goes to Akiyama ( psychology knowledge that he literally applied to everyone of his strategies as seen in the Liar Game rounds. His profiling of Yokoya goes above Ayanokouji's profiling of Ryuen and Horikita and the things you mentioned. Even if you want to say that Ayanokouji's WR narrative backs up his psychology knowledge, Akiyama's knowledge application is way more apparent than his.)
Strategy complexity ( Contraband Game, Musical chairs, Four Kingdoms? Ayanokouji's X Strategy and Love letter were many strategies mixed together rather than deeply complex.)
Concealment
( If you are talking about the Tsukishiro feat from year 2 volume 2 after he scored perfectly and he didn't reveal that he had some idea about who the White Roomer was among the first years, Akiyama's concealments throughout Contraband are way more than enough. The most prominent one would be that he had seen through Yokoya's trap the entire time but kept that to himself to manipulate his team. )
I quite disagree with you giving Akiyama EU, since Ayanokoji stated himself having all the knowledge that a person can get in a lifetime, applying this to Academical/Educational purpose, and since psychology undertakes educational, I see koji taking this with his statement, plus even if koji narrativity said this knowledge can be a narrativity stance doesn't ignore it since showing the feat/statement are the same thing in knowledge.
anyways that's all I disagree apart on everything else you said I agreed on.
@@Andriku-CLA W opinion and reasoning
@@Avery_casyrdark uhhh
Ok
W
Fairly rate ayanokoji
The first signs of autism:
What’s so special about Koji.His best strategy??
Finding X strategy. I think it took place from volume 3- volume 7
@@TZILLA. bro finding x strategy is quite trash to be honest . Tell me what’s so special . He just wants to have kei as his pawn . And lead ryuen to find him . Nothing special indeed
@@NoNo-lb9os huntsman is making a full analysis on the X strategy that’s 80% done to my knowledge, I won’t give you misinformation which could lead to me giving you a false perception and understanding of the feat so I recommend waiting until the X strategy document comes out or ask a user named DAX.
@@TZILLA.Dax PMFT should be easier to find
Akiyama wins V.high diff, but ok.
Koji fans😂😂😂
light fans 😂 koji slam that nga 😂
W
Diffs to high bro..
too*
@@moo9nplayz Ty for grammar help
@@Xavier52m np mr hyperthysmesia 💀💀
See the diff first…
Disagree but W edit.
Prediction: Either Akiyama extreme diffs or Ayanokouji very high diffs or something.
He already made an edit without full scale where Koji high diffs
@@Abdullah7536 So it'll probably be even worse in Full scale then?
@@Andriku-CLA Probably same diff but more of an slaughter as you probably meant
@@Abdullah7536 Unfortunately I'll probably be asleep by then so guess I'll miss the premiere. I'll watch it during morning I guess 🤷.
@@Abdullah7536In his previous shot, Dax said that it was just a kind of controversy, and his opinion on the truth is v.high diff
akiyama>
I think Koji takes LR extremely easily. I found a new feat in LR which clears Akiyama.
I agree that Koji takes LR but I’m not sure that I have him taking it “easily”. If you found a new feat I assume you are a COTE scaler, if you are willing I’d like to discuss this on discord in more detail.
@@TheHuntsman1001 I haven’t used discord before but I just made an account if you want to talk there.
@@VertmansfOh, I gotcha. Well you can add me, my name is “TheHuntsman1001”
@@TheHuntsman1001 Sent, please check
@@Vertmansfwhat is it?
Lower the diff
👽
Bro hasn’t even seen the diff…..😂
@@TheHuntsman1001 well you already did the matchup and had koji winning high diff so I can predict
@@OrangeEyesOfLoyalty So you want me to lower the diff more? Koji wins lower than high diff?
@@TheHuntsman1001 yuh should be low
God this take is awful
he can back up his take tho?
drop me ur discord bro
TheHuntsman1001