@@DR_1_1 I mean, that's kinda our job isn't it? Making UIs that reflect the internal OO structure is how we got the modern design hellscape, so I'd prefer it if the design came first, and then the programmers implement it as well as possible, making the necessary compromises along the way. If the designers are receptive to feedback and work with the programmers, it could work well.
Thats true, smart people can find its way through cluttered interface or complicated series of action. If you do software for security guard its needs to look like a big red button that does what he thinks it needs to do.
The requirements!!! It’s all about the requirements! I was working at a bank that shall remain nameless and they were, let’s say “legally ordered”, to develop a new …core… banking system due to how “rusty” and ineffective the current, quite old, one was (if you can’t figure out what institution I’m referring to you suck at Google). So a massive project was put together and what do they do? They get their requirements from lower level engineers that are in charge of maintaining the data flows and logic of the old system. So that they can then make a brand new system, using a newer development platform, that does everything the old system did in the exact same way. And did anyone involved actually know or understand why the software did what it did? No. But it met the legal requirements and employed a whole bunch of people are years!
Designer who doesn't know how to draw, studied philosophy and works in software development. I've never seen someone so diverse in the world of technology.
It's way more common than you might think for a liberal arts major to find their way into IT. I'm sure many of them would do just about anything to make sure they never utter the phrase "Do you want fries with that".
“And also the wheel, like having new interactions paradigms is something that I’m very interested in” This man is so willing to lie that he’s reinventing the wheel and calling it innovation. Pure gold
I think he was talking about how he wants to try new ways of interacting with software, like how the mouse wheel was a new way to interact with a computer
lmao. That Gary Kildall/Computer Chronicles clip was interesting insomuch as Doug Engelbart himself (in an interview with Robert X. Cringley) said something to the effect of: "We* had links too. But we just called them 'links'. There was nothing 'Hyper' about them." * [by which Doug meant NLS {oNLine System, first publicly demonstrated in 1968's "Mother of All Demos" which eventually became the basis for [DA]RPANET after J.C.R. Licklider helped get Engelbart's Augment group at SRI {Stanford Research Institute} funding}]
To be fair, philosophy includes things like mathematical logic (one of the most useful courses I took in undergrad, and I wasn't even a philosophy major lol).
As someone with a philosophy degree with a focus in aesthetics and logic who programs as a hobby; this guy doesn't understand any of the three. You get them sometimes in the field of philosophy: people who don't understand philosophy but are really pretentious about it. Give those guys capital and this is what happens I guess.
Did he just say Albert Epstein? Sometimes I feel bad for the guys he interviews. Do you let them in on the joke at the end? Either way, great content as usual. I'd like to see a sequel of your interview with the Rust Dev
apparently paul rony is real and a cofounder of kosmik, an infinite white board to store stuff instead of the classic folder structure. i also was curious about this, because i thought this was a parody of some kind
I agree, at first I thought it seemed kind of pointless but thinking more about it I can see it being a nice way to gather together research and notes and such. I just checked out their site and the cursor response is snappy on my base-spec M1 Macbook Air running Arc. Maybe they fixed some optimization issues.
Oui ce clair dude! Hyper, Mega, Super Bon. A+ il et les CTO, Co-founder, moi aussi! Philosophie et tres bon plus important de qeulle que choose pour votre tete! Pas mon....jai fait une tower dans une piece de bois! Fucaulte! 😊
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"Quinoa Coin Airdrop"
i might fuck around and launch this
Love the pivot channel has taken. The interviewee becomes the interviewer. Thanks for the laughs!
“Objects that float in the database…” Spoken like a true designer. 😂
"Now let's the programmers slaves implement that!"
@@DR_1_1 I mean, that's kinda our job isn't it? Making UIs that reflect the internal OO structure is how we got the modern design hellscape, so I'd prefer it if the design came first, and then the programmers implement it as well as possible, making the necessary compromises along the way. If the designers are receptive to feedback and work with the programmers, it could work well.
Actually a philosopher, designing. 😆
@@adampliszka4855 i dont know how visualizing "objects in the db" has anything to do with ui.
"But if you design it for Finance people it can be shittily designed"
That hit home real bad... I blame the requirements.
facts
Thats true, smart people can find its way through cluttered interface or complicated series of action. If you do software for security guard its needs to look like a big red button that does what he thinks it needs to do.
The requirements!!! It’s all about the requirements!
I was working at a bank that shall remain nameless and they were, let’s say “legally ordered”, to develop a new …core… banking system due to how “rusty” and ineffective the current, quite old, one was (if you can’t figure out what institution I’m referring to you suck at Google).
So a massive project was put together and what do they do? They get their requirements from lower level engineers that are in charge of maintaining the data flows and logic of the old system.
So that they can then make a brand new system, using a newer development platform, that does everything the old system did in the exact same way.
And did anyone involved actually know or understand why the software did what it did? No. But it met the legal requirements and employed a whole bunch of people are years!
"Let's not talk about windows, let's talk about serious products"
My favorite line
Yes, talk about doors and rooms. 😂
incredibly based
that comment "not possible on windows" was "asking for derail": self inflicted damage
One guy stole the TV, one the DVD player. Or what was the quote Gates threw in Job's face during an interview?
This is the most *aggressively French* person I have ever seen. I have almost no idea what he's selling, but I wish him the best of luck.
Designer who doesn't know how to draw, studied philosophy and works in software development.
I've never seen someone so diverse in the world of technology.
Very inclusive of him
It's way more common than you might think for a liberal arts major to find their way into IT. I'm sure many of them would do just about anything to make sure they never utter the phrase "Do you want fries with that".
@@notsojharedtroll23 Yeah, like... he looked in the mirror and said: You're hired.
Happens all the time, all you need is a rich family, or to be able to BS your way into an investment.
Most designers I work with can't draw. It's very common these days.
Also, I'm a liberal arts major working in IT! Venti latte with caramel 😁
Da Ali G Dhow and Between Two Ferns of tech.
With a little bit of Philomena Cunk sprinkled in.
"Albert Epstein" 5:16
Lol
I thought I misheard him, did he actually say that? I'm not crazy lmao lessgoooooo
Mark twain
In all seriousness, I really miss hypercard and I'm super happy someone is carrying the torch...
100%!
based
These founder interviews are awesome! Still waiting for an "Interview with a ZFS enthusiast" though ;)
Okay, but I unironically love the memex, and want it to exist. Several things have tried, but none are quite there yet.
Please let's not talk about Microsoft
“And also the wheel, like having new interactions paradigms is something that I’m very interested in”
This man is so willing to lie that he’s reinventing the wheel and calling it innovation. Pure gold
There is that wheel in Inkscape... I never could integrate their interface!
I think he was talking about how he wants to try new ways of interacting with software, like how the mouse wheel was a new way to interact with a computer
You snuck a bit of Switched on Bach into the background. Sweet.
Yo thanks for pointing that out. Wendy Carlos is an OG baller!
@@versacebroccoli7238
Wow, good hearing!!! ❤
disappointed bc no nft metion
Loved the sequence at the end!
Very enjoyable - thank you for being creative
Yesss! They are bringing back HyperCard
dang the computer chronicles deep cut
"You studied Philosophy?"
This guy misses such thing as markdown (notion, obsidian etc) 😅
Or Logseq, also pretty great :)
Bruno, but for developers
What the hell is kosmik? I checked their website, still have no idea.
it's a way to use up vc money
You don't understand, it's like a deck of cards... it's a marvelous software 🤣
It looks like some kind of hypercard reinvention + a slimmed down desktop environment stuck in a web browser? I think?
It looks like FigJam, but when you click a link it opens an ?
@@za_wavbit and that's the re-imagining of computing ? HUGE MEH
This guy is the Eric Andre of coder nerds
7:05 how did you turn it into a clip from 1973 😅 🤯
art
Or is it a 1843 novel, Martin Chuzzlewit...
design
HYPERTEXT !!
HYPERMEDIA!
HYPERDATA!!!
All I wanted is hyper-meta-data, aka hypertext and semantic web, but all we get is shitty LLMs and "AI"
HYPERMEDIA AS THE ENGINE OF APPLICATION STATE
HYPERMEDIA SYSTEMS
I enjoyed this way too much. Well done.
"Two thousand, one hundred, and *glance* thirty-five followers."
Dang you're (or where) in Paris ? Know that you have french fans around here!
I hope to see other french startups interview.
That Stewart Cheifet nod at 1:20 lol
Oh the guy being interviewed actually knows stuff
8:00 lol they web-scraping ad at the end
Bro your videos are all hilarious. Im glad you're branching out from your usual content, keep it up.
This is art.
|Let's not talk about windows, let's talk about serious products" ROFL
Comments on this really made my day! :)
Anyone noticed Atari TT/Mega STE in the background .. It was good design for a case at a time.
"What I'm saying is very dumb" - a true philosopher
Hope one day I will be interviewed by this genius🤞
Can we sell NFT's with it?
Now I'm Thinking Different.
its hysterical how the guest responses sounds like a programmers are also human monologue
6:03 Kai's look when Paul says "you can have a healthy revenue stream without getting people addicted to your product"
damn. I could be a creative person too.
Yes just dont limit yourself
It's all about the narrative... and body language, and... relationships!
I actually like this guy.
These keep getting better
7:17 That was kind of a few steps away from death
I couldn't figure out what the product is or does.
This was so cringe, I loved it.
lmao.
That Gary Kildall/Computer Chronicles clip was interesting insomuch as Doug Engelbart himself (in an interview with Robert X. Cringley) said something to the effect of: "We* had links too. But we just called them 'links'. There was nothing 'Hyper' about them."
* [by which Doug meant NLS {oNLine System, first publicly demonstrated in 1968's "Mother of All Demos" which eventually became the basis for [DA]RPANET after J.C.R. Licklider helped get Engelbart's Augment group at SRI {Stanford Research Institute} funding}]
It’s quite an interesting App. I’m digging the vibe, man.
“What I am saying is very dumb.”
You could say that again.
"Includes paid promotion" Kai trolling the algorithm.
Affiliate link in the description. The ad near the end of the video.
This guy is amazing. He should interview all the world leaders and all top ceos.
To be fair, philosophy includes things like mathematical logic (one of the most useful courses I took in undergrad, and I wasn't even a philosophy major lol).
Anyone else look up "the rabbit" nd find the first thing that came up was a seggs toy or does google just think I'm a freak?
You got me. It's surreal... I can't even tell if it's real or not.
He's nailing the '78 Bill Atkinson look ✨
I really want to get in on dat Quinoa Qoin goodness.
I've always said real software should be super-marvelous.
As someone with a philosophy degree with a focus in aesthetics and logic who programs as a hobby; this guy doesn't understand any of the three. You get them sometimes in the field of philosophy: people who don't understand philosophy but are really pretentious about it. Give those guys capital and this is what happens I guess.
All you're missing is a quote from Christoper Alexander or Alan Kay lmeow.
YAY! QUINUA COIN MENTIONED!!
Song name form the Northstar reference?
Did he just say Albert Epstein?
Sometimes I feel bad for the guys he interviews. Do you let them in on the joke at the end? Either way, great content as usual. I'd like to see a sequel of your interview with the Rust Dev
You'd feel sorry for Pecksniff...
HYPERCARDS SMALLTALK LETSGO
Lets talk more about your actual specialty: ""design""
Funnily enough System 76 are developing their new Rust desktop that is indeed called Cosmic (Linux/Pos OS) 😂
I think I have nerd/comdey crush on the host. This is gold.
can anyone decypher the 2 names he drops in the beginning? friggin frenchie accent
no clue what's going on but *"im loving it"*
The joke about finance people was spon on.
The best question is no question.
😂
Dude got roasted
The future is truly terrifying now that I've seen this
"Back to reality" looooool
Where does he find these people?!?!?
what an ad... 😄 a lot of people probably think the ad for web-scraping is real... 😂
It is. His affiliate link is in the description. People that use Brighdata VPNs are endpoints for their webscapers.
It is a real ad, genius!
This industry makes my ****ing teeth fall out, it really does.
7:15 this is the funniest shit I've ever seen
8:00 - The best Web Unlocking Technology in the world
Epstein and Mark Twain 😂😂😂😂
AI generated chorus: ...dreams are married NTFs a different kind of reeeeeality...
The theme some from La Boum? Oh, no you didn't!
They are both imposter comedians, yes?
apparently paul rony is real and a cofounder of kosmik, an infinite white board to store stuff instead of the classic folder structure. i also was curious about this, because i thought this was a parody of some kind
@@kiryls1207 These aren't parodies, this guy is outsmarting SF it's wild
@@analogsamurai9576i now noticed and holy crap this dude's making some heavy hits. so glad i discovered him
Bro this guy from Kosmik should spend less time doing design and more doing performance engineering. Their website bricked my phone
@@analogsamurai9576 it shouldnt surprise u, unless u think tech ceos get where they are by being geniuses
There's a Raphael Mezrahi vibe there 😛
Its actually, "Vann-Var." Everyone gets that wrong. #Xanadu
a history teacher
Even after this interview, I still have no clue what he's doing with his startup.
Actually, I'm not sure Kai really knows what he's doing either. 😅
Check out his TH-cam demo. Looks like Obsidian for artists, not the worst idea ever tbh.
Let me know if this guys startup fails, we're hiring for a Principle Yapping Engineer where I work.
Albert Epstein 💀
"Students don't have a lot of money -- let's not talk about them."
Nested file folders are the fucking bomb. They work the way we organize in real life. Stop complicating
kosmik actually looks useful and like a nice idea... buuut intense mouse lag on the homepage before even downloading it? no. no thatnks.
I agree, at first I thought it seemed kind of pointless but thinking more about it I can see it being a nice way to gather together research and notes and such. I just checked out their site and the cursor response is snappy on my base-spec M1 Macbook Air running Arc. Maybe they fixed some optimization issues.
Man. I thought this is a comedy video. Is this a real interview ?
Figma balls
Ce cool il em les arts!
Who are the 2 people he mentions as his role models? ________ & Rick Dickinson.... who's the first one?
"Steve Jobs was a poser... he didn't even write code" - an oldie, but a goodie: th-cam.com/video/kXQE2uGnR_U/w-d-xo.html
Oui ce clair dude! Hyper, Mega, Super Bon. A+ il et les CTO, Co-founder, moi aussi! Philosophie et tres bon plus important de qeulle que choose pour votre tete! Pas mon....jai fait une tower dans une piece de bois! Fucaulte! 😊
Let's not talk about Microsoft.