Boss Nextone - Classic Valve Tones in a Transistor Amp!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- When Boss announces a new product, the guitar world pays attention. This time around, they're throwing their hat in to the ring for good old classic amplifier tones. Introducing the Nextone series of amplifiers. John and Jack put the brand new Artist edition through its paces and uncover the variety of tones available from this deceptively simple 1x12 combo. The Nextone accomodates players of all abilities, from plug-and-players to trivial-tweakers. Taking the amp out of the box and firing it up reveals how simple it is to navigate the tones of four purpose-designed authentic
'power amp' settings, each designed to give the user the ultimate recreation of your favourite power section valve-types, with 80 watts of Class A/B power to back it up. The amplifier can be tailored to any environment thanks to its in-built power scaling options, allowing it to sound its best in your practice room or on the stage. Don't be fooled, this amp will have no trouble in keeping up with your classic valve amps for tone and volume.
Add to that all of that a compliment of tasteful classic effects, an all-purpose customisable footswitch, effects loop & options to run external speaker cabinets of your choice and you have one versatile rig that'll have no problem fitting on the back seat of your car.
We'll also delve in to Boss' editing software and showcase just how simple it is to jump around the features of the amplifier in real time. Leaving no stone unturned, the full capacity of this versatile package is unleashed!
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Apologies for the background noise! We are currently having building work done in the shop and had to film the video whilst the work was being done.
Hope you enjoy it anyway!
Rubbish, there was a game of ping pong going on , c'mon admit it 🤣
Peach Guitars it is a fine video, and with headphones on the amp sounds good in the settings you chose to play around with. Ignore the criticism its a nice video!
Sounded good lads. One thing. Too much looking at each other instead of to the camera. Look at the camera, you are supposed to be giving 'us' the demo.
I've saw a few videos saying this is a not a digital/modeling amp, and that it's completely analog... but the "TubeLogic" this amp has is DSP.
Nah, don’t worry the moaners. 🤗
Did anyone know that this amp was coming?
I sure didnt!
I liked the Katana, and I liked this.
Boss is just out there killin it.
Good times!
I love these tone snobs who complain about the solid-state overdrive, then kick on their solid state Klons, Tube Screamers, or OCDs to get the drive into their super clean 50w tube amps. As for it being 'brittle sounding', the EQ on this recording does sound a little thin on it's own (on clean or drive sounds) but that's A) a personal preference thing, B) can be altered in person, and C) is a better sound to sit in a full band mix anyway. I mostly use small (13-15w) tube amps and pedals but, in some circumstances (live mostly) I run a GT-100 direct into the board. The sounds either way are great... the difference is in the feel (the way the amp responds to my playing.) The beauty of these more recent Boss offerings is that they're getting closer and closer to that squishy tube response and feel.
Dude, shut the fuck up.
A bad sounding tube amp makes distortion pedals sound bad. A great tube amp that already has the sound the pedals try to recreate saves time, money and frustration because distortion pedals aren’t needed then. A great tube amp is expensive but worth every penny because it’s SO fun to play.
profd65
Like an idiot you have nothing worthwile to say and just start swearing.
@Django Fett
Descent Play Station? Body building videos? You own yourself. Every day.
you are spot on... most of the audiofool snob... forget that on recording the amps of these era was process trought vintage mic... vintage neve console... vintage optop compressor etc etc etc... what they ear is a different sound chain that thety cant never get these amp are spot on... give them a chance they are amazing peice of gear... audiofool are sub rated muician with no talent that hope that gear will give it to them... it doenst
It's a mix between Roland Blues Cube and Katana. Awesome.
If you close your eyes, it sounds like Nigel Tufnel talking to Nigel Tufnel. That can only be a good thing.
I actually really like transistor amps. They have their own unique kind of feel and sound.
@Nic1963 D I'm sure a new mesa boogie isn't much easier to repair than one of these nextone amps. I have pignose transistor amps from the 70s and they're no different than a fuzz pedal and quite repairable. Anything can be repaired or refurbished if you're determined enough.
I was recently roaming the mean streets of Bend, Oregon when a bearded young man wearing tight fitting trousers approached me and said “Hey Bro, have you heard the Nextone is analog not digital? It’s fantastic!” I looked at him, smiled and said “Little man I have no idea what any of that means but thank you for your passion.” and went about with my afternoon.
Sounds like Bend Oregon
Was he drinking 10 Barrell IPA? I know that guy!
I used to live there for 25 years. Sounds about right.
I was recently roaming around Beaverton OR when a bearded old man stopped me and said Rick Beato and Ola from Sweden are going to NAMM but I have to work. I had no idea what I was saying so I went home and played my guitar.
It actually sounds amazing. Very impressed. I own an AC30c2, and previously owned a vintage Hot Rod Deluxe... Have also consistently worked with high end valve gear in the studio - this sounds (at least from the demo) to have nailed the subtlely of a valve amp, I'm surprised but pleasantly.... Also, great playing!
Excellent demonstration! The best I’ve watched so far. Thank You.
Funny thing , I have a 1990s Session mk2 75w sitting in the corner not used much now but it out-valves all these modern' valvalike's by miles on the drive channel specially , Award knew what they were doing back then ,still do .
These guys make everything sound amazing.
I dig it. Feels like Boss/Roland's answer to the Orange Crush series. Happy to see alternatives to tube amps that are aiming to be quality analog solid-states as opposed to cheap digital garbage. Still not better than tube, but definitely tempting especially when you consider general ease of use and lighter weight.
I'm well impressed. Good stuff. Cheers guys!
I use a BOSS katana air and it sounds good enough for me not to miss my tube head. Boss did a great job on these amps.
Absolutely stellar review!
I'm going to say that Boss marketed this well. They have people hooked with the Katana series of digital modelling. Meanwhile waiting to release what seems to be a borderline "boutique" version of an all analog, non valve, guitar amplifier.
I say fantastic shout for the price point. You can always change out the speaker for anything you have or want to tweak your personal tonal characteristics.
It's a mix between the Roland Blues Cube and a Katana.
I own the Blues Cube Hot and its sounds fantastic but this takes it to the next level. Awesome
@@soofitnsexy I had the 2x12 Katana, I think it sounded terrible clean.
Boss have come pretty close,,,if you can't dial in a decent tube tone with the software and the panel settings it isn't the fault of the amplifier. A lot of people are gigging the katanas and leaving the tubers at home. Anybody who says these are just practice amps don't know what they are talking about. This is the future of amplification, light,versatile,and dependable unlike tube amps. I love my tubers but they are touchy and expensive to maintain, i have pedals more expensive than katana's,lol, so if it somehow gets damaged at a gig or stolen i am not out thousands of dollars.
@@ericsmodsandgear8098 A lot of people are gigging a lot of things, but here we discus what sounds good, and in my opinion a Katana does not sound good enough.
You can get a decent crunch and dirty sound, but not a decent cleanish sound, so it also depends a lot on which type of music you are playing.
Life is one big compromise. A lot of people also plays the cheapest Squier guitars, plays shitty songs and date ugly girls - I dont. That´s the difference.
Right now I use a Marshall 4010 1x12" combo. It was more expensive than the Katana, but sounds much better.
@@kimhansen6384 In order to get good cleans with the katana you need to adjust the global eq in the tone studio and also use the vintage cab setting. I use a blues driver in front of the pre amp with the knob set barely on for a little breakup and it sounds great. Is it 100% spot on with my tube amps cleans? No, but it sounds damn close. For a solid state amp that cost a fraction of what my tube amps did i would call it a win. I've been playing music and owning amps longer than most of you have been alive and went through the tube snobbery stage myself,,and thought anything other than an rca black plate was shit and spent a lot of money loading my amps with 200 dollar 6l6 nos tubes. Now i just plug in and play,,,SS amps are getting better,,tube amps are yesterdays news.
Thanks for the fairly thorough demo. If I would have known about this amp coming out, I might have waited and not bought the Blues Cube Artist, though I have no regrets - it sounds great for what I do and is light and reliable, so far, though I did have to replace the AC power plug. I really like the power amp choices, 3 reverb and delay types, and the choice of boost or compression, which is nice for clean sounds. I could actually gig without pedals, though I hope they port the editor to Android and iOS, so people can tweak at the gig, though without blue tooth, I'm not holding my breath. Also, thanks for clearing up the pronunciation "Next Tone", not "Next One" or "Nextonee" :-)
Somebody posted asking if this was like a Line 6 amp, but the comment is now gone. I can assured you that it is not! Line 6 is the Fiat of amplification. They look great and go fast until the warranty runs out, then they quit running and cannot be repaired. Been there too many times with the amps and Variax guitars myself. BOSS has always produced tank-like sturdiness. I'm definitely interested in this amp!
archiguitarchi Unfair to fiat. I’ve had a Fiat from new since 2004 and it’s still going and going well. Hard to find a 2004 Line 6 without a boot shaped hole in its face.
LOL! I apologize. I guess I watch too much Scotty Kilmer. I had a Flextone III with the long board that quit working three times. The problem in the first two were corroded PC connectors between circuit boards. The third was never figured out. Our other guitar player (who had been using a Line 6 Duo) insisted I sell the III to him. He ended up sending it to Line 6 twice. The last time they returned it they said they had done all they could do. That was five years ago and it's still gathering dust in his music room. My Variax 500 rarely worked. I had a Spider 30 as a practice amp and it quit after about an hour. Took that one back to Guitar Center. Even my MM4 quit working. I baby my equipment, so hard use was NOT the issue.
My spider 2 is Still kicking after 10 years and I blasted it to keep up with drums.
I'm happy for you. I know numerous other players around here who have owned Line 6 stuff and they they all had trouble too. None of them/us are using it or recommending the brand. When a Line 6 service center tells you that they cannot repair your amp after two separate attempts, you have been screwed.
archiguitarchi damn wtf, but then again I have my bought anything of theirs in years
Awesome playing guys!!
"Walk on Hot Coals, Sleep on a Bed of Nails!" I'm 64, played a lot of his stuff in my day. Sure miss him!
Enjoying the vids lads, good stuff.
I had two Katana's, a MKII 100 and an MKII Artist that I sold / traded and have since kicked myself. Best amps I ever played. I have a tube now that I like, but I have to admit, I'm really drawn to the Nextone for a few reasons. 1 - No more tubes, 2- Boss tones (I also have a Boss GX100), 3-Similar software to the Katana and GX, so already very familiar with it and 4- can probably just grab another foot switch and leave the GX at home. This thing sounds phenomenal.
I love the criticism of these two guys, talking too much and not dialing in good sounds, supposedly. As if they owe people the best video and sound humanly possible and a performance. It’s dumb, and there are a million more possible tones possible with it and the guitar. I enjoyed the video quality, explanation, and I can understand fine whether I want to check it out in person. Good video guys!
Ok
IMHO less talk, more exploration of the tonal possibilities this amp has...and yes i am one of those that feels if your going to demo an amp, then you do owe the viewer and the company that made the product the best possible sound and video you can possibly do.if you dont then your doing more of a disservice than helping.
johncartelli I respect that.
johncartelli I just felt some of them were only criticism of the effort they made, but not in any helpful way, just being rude, you know? Although I don’t think they are obligated, I dont mean thinking or saying it was not helpful to a particular viewer is wrong. I didn’t explain it well, so sorry about that. Play on man!
Fusion72 hi, hey I understand, no problem. As I said I didn’t explain my point well, sorry about that, and honestly I don’t feel as strongly as you seem to now that it is later. I agree about all of your points tho, and those people in the basement are the ones I was thinking of. I hope it helps that I was kind of thinking of them and not people with quite reasonable criticism. Take care.
Very very nice tones this is the best boss amp I've heard so far great tech here great tones much more like a tube has that nice pop also and snap to it I would def play on it these new amps without tubes are getting so much better and the boost wow does that sound amazing when on great job boss lol at 16:10 that's a great tone with the boost on sounds great
A fine review. Its a bit brittle sounding through my laptop but Boss are quality and this must be one of the best solutions for flexible tonal titilation regardless of budget.
I have read every comment so far, but I have to say I like this amp and the concept...light and don't have to necessarily carry a pedal board to a gig. I like the way it sounds. I kind of wish they offered the 80 watt with 2 speakers, but I know the big selling point is the weight. So I'm not sure how much weight another speaker would add, but you could take another speaker cab along with this amp....so that's an option. But for me, I really like this amp
Good demo. Thanks guys!
Amazing playing!
great job guys you just sold me on that great amp i have three katana:s love em but the nextone is a new level holy cow
next one. next tone. Pretty sneaky sis!
I never had a problem with solid state amps in the clean mode, its when you start to use the high gain and the overdrive channels is were tube amps starts to walk away, but the solid states are getting better, I would give this amp a whirl I like the EL84 setting, I just bought a Fender Mustang for practice and I love it, it does not sound bad. I gig with a Fender Vintage Modified tube.
Mark Nairn I also have a Mustang GT amp and love it. I had a F Deluxe and the GT at the same time, and I found that I used the GT more because of volume requirements, I got fantastic tones that sound huge but I can dial back volume, or get great cleaner sound with the guitar volume knob. Love it. This Boss amp will fool listeners who think tubes are the best way all the time. Cheers!
Not to mention the mustang has like 30 effects I could never afford to buy, certainly not more than a couple!
Do you reckon " I felt that it was the other way around. I had a Split Channel Reverb 50w Marshall the clean was crap and so was the overdrive but not quite. In essence we agree SS is CRAP Man the day I brought my first Marshall tube amp home I was REBORN..
Even the solid state distorted tone is getting good. I had one of those Vox modeling amps a few years ago, and I thought the distorted tones were pretty good; but when I turned the volume much past noon, the sound sort of fell apart. You definitely need MUCH more watts with a solid state than with a tube amplifier.
If it's anything like the Katana- it's awesome. That has become my go-to amp for gigs and practice now. It's just a beast- plug straight in- nothing else required...
100 watt here too@NoiseFeedMusic
"Walk on Hot Coals" is a nice touch!
sgmarshall3 my fave Rory tune!
Peach Guitars I don't even know if I can narrow it down to 20! He was amazing
I think I'd still buy a Marshall tube amp head because I always wanted one
Does anyone know if the speaker breaks in and the buzzy and fizzy gain smoothes out? That's the only thing holding me back from buying this. The gain is not very impressive in every video I've heard. The cleans are killer though.
This is begging for a shootout against the Peavey Bandit, Orange CR60C, Tech 21 Trademark 60 and... Award-Session Blues Baby. I do like the idea of both reverb and delay in an amp. A tuner would be good, too as with that configuration, I'd never need to take any pedals to gigs. Just a guitar, lead and amp. Also, I'd like to know how it performs in a proper gig, and finally, how much background noise/hiss it generates.
id like to see a marshall code 100 added to that...i have the code 50 and after tweaking the presets...just pure amazement
@@johncartelli That will have to be a separate shootout, as the amps I chose are all analogue, whereas the Code 100 is digital. I think your comment about the presets sums up why I'm not interested in amps with multiple features and choices. Most of these are unusable, so why pay for them? One decent tonewith the ability to go from clean to overdriven (preferably using the guitar's volume control) is all I need.
@@ParaBellum2024 nods, the way i look at it is this, regardless of how many presets it has, if i can get a few great fenderish tones and some great late 60's plexi tones by tweaking a few buttons..then save them and be done with it all for a resonable price then Im all for it...because the end result is an amp than can cover a wide range of usable tones thats affordable....versus a one trick pony amp.
@@johncartelli Horses for courses I suppose John. I've just checked out your videos - not bad. I also have a Blues Deluxe Reissue, which is my one trick pony. With regard to your guitar mods, may I suggest neck inserts with machine screws (for bolt on necks). I've fitted these to mine and they make an immediate improvement.
I have owned them all and still have the Tech 21 trademark 60. The Boss Katana 100 212 which I also own beats them all in my opinion. It's lightweight pushes tons of air in a live setting and sounds surprisingly good. Granted I use a pedal board into the amp and I'm not relying on the drive channels but I think they're good enough to use if you tweek them on the tone editor app. The orange crush CR 60 was my least favorite but still a decent amp. I did not feel it would hold up in a live setting at all. The Tech 21 Trademark 60 is loud and can hang in a gig but it sounds very boxy and I was never truly satisfied with it. I do keep it in my trunk as a backup and it's great because you can run it direct into the board via the XLR out and the amp still works as a monitor. If you can find a katana 100 212 give it a whirl I think you'll be very surprised.
25:15 Perfectly nails that elusive Spider amp tone :)
😂😂😅
This is what I call a very innovating guitars amplifier an I want one the Katana have brother we didn't know about nice job Roland.
Cinammon Girl? - Love it! (just drop the E down to D, but you probs know this…)
Seems to like an idea that Orange has been doing for years now.
how do you follow up the katana? well with the next one of course
15:38 Sounded really promising for 4 seconds then sounded
like a## , I thought it turned to sht, when you turned up the
treble on the amp, but I think he switched to the bridge p/u
at the same time.
I'm on the brink of ordering the Artist amp. I need to know if it is capable of natural feedback like tubes amps are, and by that I mean the feedback that produces controllable sustain. I can achieve this with the rig I have now and it is nice to have when you want it.
@NoiseFeedMusic, I trusted the hype enough to order the Artist. It went back to the store in about a week after trying to make sense out of it with the software. It just did not live up to the claims. I could barely distinguish a difference in the output sections. I have owned all these tube types and am VERY familiar with them. This amp feel short, AND is too complicated to enjoy.
Thank you for being so quick on the trigger with this video! Question: As you switch from amp model to amp model does the apparent overall volume change?
archiguitarchi it’s negligible
Hot damn, I dig this amp!
I'm intrigued by this amp (and the Blues Cube Hot) for several reasons. The feature that I am most looking for after good tone, is the attenuation. Try finding a tube amp with a built in attenuator. They exist but they are easily twice the price of this amp (Tone King Gremlin, for example). Of course, you could always buy a tube amp and a stand alone attenuator but again, that drives the cost through the roof. One of my favourite tube amps it the Fender Princeton but I won't buy one because I would have to leave the volume on 1 for fear of having my neighbours call the police. No, there is definitely a market for this type of amp and in reality, they do sound quite good.
Completely Wrong. I have a 28w Class A 1x12 Tube Combo and at any volume from a whisper to a roar it will destroy any of these amps. All you need is a Boost pedal and a tube screamer / overdrive and they are very usable at low volumes. Attenuators that actually work cost more than most amps as you said - but the reality is pedals do it just as well if not better for a lot less money on a good quality amp.
Any solid state amp can be turned down to bedroom levels. The power attenuation isn’t really needed because it’s got master volume. The beauty of solid state is the tone isn’t affected by changes in master volume. Try turning Down a 100 watt valve amp to bedroom levels its grim.
If the tube amp has an FX loop like the Hot Rod Deluxe, you can place an EQ or volume pedal in the loop to play at bedroom levels.
Well, you've definitely got my attention. I'd like to hear you toss a few pedals on its effects loop. On the foot switch, can you only assign one effect/preset at a time to the single button? So, is this our future?
I don't hear a difference between the different "tube settings" in the crunch tones. Guess I'm getting old and deaf :) it does its own thing, that amp, for sure. I wouldn't compare it to tubes though.
This amp sounds like it's got some great tones, I wish you guys and
all reviewers would do these profiles in sections , instead of noodling
around with some little chordal' things and then spattering in a lead here
and there, it would be leap years ahead if you would do something like:
First 3rd ; all the lead tones you plan on showing , Second third; all the
rhythm/chordal' things you plan to demo. Last 3rd , mixed , chords with
leads, and if you must add pedals , do it in that last 3rd .
First we got Cab-sim,
Then we get Tube-sim.
Is the power amp style footswitchable? E.g. could you have a 6V6 clean preset and then an EL34 lead sound?
yes. but apparently you have to set it on a computer to get different tubes for different channels, but you can set it to have something like fender cleans/marshall drives. seems super cool!
for a little breakup on the clean channel should u raise the volume and then lower the master or raise the master and lower the volume
Can you use this amp as a four channel amp? Using the ga-fc to navigate? Can you save different valve types to a channel?
Played blues cubes, would never pay a new price for those amps, so not spending $800 on one of these either. If I'm going that way the katana artist is still a better option in my opinion. Considering it's much less expensive to produce a solid state amp, I'm amazed they're trying to charge what a Fender HRD cost?!?!
i think it comes down to paying for the sound regardless of whether its SS or tube.....I have a mid 90's blues cube 60 and there were complaints about those new prices too..i got mine for $275 off ebay...solid as a tank like new, sounds great..BUT,,,overdrive used in small amounts,,,i have never liked any amps cranked OD except a lat 60's Plexi...i use a tube screamer...
I like it but I’ll wait a while to see if they make a 2x12 version of it.
Thank you for this video.
How can this amp not be digital if it's equipped with a USB connection, and its settings can be managed by a software via a computer ?
I think the thing is that the amp circuit is analog, but the switching is done using digital equipment. That means, that internal switches and relays are connected to digital boards instead of analog switchers and knobs.
Similar solutions have been on the market for a while, e.q. Marshall JMP-1 that is controlled using midi messages.
@@igorzavalnyi5341 With the information that arrives about this new amp, I think I understand what it is. In fact, the preamp is digital. But the power amp is analog. Nothing special, it's the same with the Katana or even the Roland Cube. But, the special feature of the Nextone is that the power amp contains 4 solid state circuits, therefore analog, which color the sound differently.
As this amp has an effects loop, it's possible to connect directly to the return of the loop with a pedal, and choose a type of power amp. This option doesn't exist on the Katana, or even less on the Cube XL or GX that don't have an effects loop.
@@too--late this is a hot topic amongst amp builders. I've heard Bruce Egnater talk about the preamp being a bigger influence over the amp then the power amp tube types. If you buy into Bruce's theory then all the solid state power amp shaping would be much less effective then the modeling of the preamp.
Not every guitar player is a blues player. Nearly every demo on TH-cam only plays blues
If tubes are butter, then this is margarine.
Ha ha ha!
I’d like to take one of these on a test drive.
Going from the designed features it sounds like it is supposed to battle the Blackstar HT40 and HT studio.
Looks like a classic take on the Katana, with a tad of BluesCube.
Guess in 3 months they will put the controls on the front of the amp and upgrade the speaker. Oh BOSS
Prophetic...
A big benefit of SS amps is the lighter weight - how much does it weigh?
@Eric Pingel thanks!
Other benefits 1) no tubes to randomly fail
2) once it’s dialled in it will always sound the same.
3) if it’s hot or cold it will not randomly change tone
4) if the electricity is not running within specific cycles tube amps crap out. Solid state doesn’t care.
5) solid state amps are more reliable.
5) good solid state amps are dynamic, responsive and will sound great.
6) you can turn a 120 watt solid state amp down to whisper quiet levels for bedroom practice and still sound good. Try doing that with a 100 watt tube amp it’s not pretty.
7) if you like tube amps but don’t like the downsides of owning one give the Blues cube, Orange crush pro, Nextone amps a try you’ll be surprised. I prefer these over tube amps.
Great video guys, so nice to watch something which focuses solely on the product instead of jamming and cracking school boy jokes. Great amp also.
A transistor amp that sounds like a tube? Really? You mean like every other amp says it is? Fascinating.
Sounds great! Not sure if it's gonna be loud enough for gigs/rehearsal with a drummer. The 40w version certainly won't
Gary Moseley hi, I don’t know if it would help because I have not performed live in a long time, but I have a 40 watt Mustang and a tube deluxe reverb, and I can dial in a very very close tone on both, and the Mustang is able to hold the tone I dial in and shake the windows pretty well! So for your rehearsal and smaller gigs and recording it might work decently. Keep on playin!
What Pickups are in the White Suhr Strat? Are they Noiseless? I am searching for Great noiseless pickups and a complimentary bridge humbucker for my strat. ( low output ) ? Need all the quack, chime and twang Without the 60 cycle hum . . . and a Humbucker with nice round clean tone. Informative video. Love to hear this amp in a: side-by-side vs. Katana
Might want to check out Kinman.com. Not a great website (although there is a lot of useful information buried amongst a dated site design), but superb noiseless pickups if that's what you're after. Cheers.
I've heard Bruce egnater say it's in the preamp not the power section. He claims you can make an el84 powered sound like a plexi or a deluxe based on the preamp. There's a computer onboard this amp so how can I buy it's not modeling?!?
i went to Sweetwaters sight and watched their video...their tone was much better when using the OD.....
Sounded like a solid state to me. Some of those overdriven tones hurt me.
lol...I'll lug my heavy tube amp so I dont sound like this video.
@@bobboitt3126 my Little Blues Jr. Tweed and my fender Excelcior Dlx are plenty loud enuff for gigging,and light to carry around. 15 and 13 watts respectively.
I'm a tube guy, too, but this sounded pretty awesome
If you also watch the comparison demo done on Andersons you’ll see that most people still preferred the sounds of the Boss Nextone VS corresponding Fender, Marshall amps...
Nice Guys!!
You should change the name of this channel to "Don't Touch me Gear."
Not to compare apples to oranges, but I am a closet musician that probably will play at home for fun. I have fancy tube amps, but I don't see the need for them anymore. I recently picked up a Boss Katana 50W. Would you see a need to upgrade to this? I like the idea of revoicing the amp with the flip of a switch. I wonder how the sound compares to the Katana in person. Maybe a shootout video is in order?
Tyler W Try downloading the sneaky amps. Some people like these...I have 4 of the models loaded on my bank “2” of my Katana 100 watt. The models I have are the Fender Twin, Matchless, Marshall, and Bogner. You might like them. Just google sneaky amps and import them into Boss Tone Studio. Cheers!
jbwiw2 I had no idea this existed! Done. I’ll be trying this before getting the Nextone. Thanks, mate!
Tyler W No worries, these were made for the Boss GT-100, I believe, but they work on the Katana platform. You may want to tweak them further to taste.
If you like tube amp sounds but don’t want mess around with all the effects on the katana get a Blue Cube, Orange CR60 or the nextone they all good and sound noticeably better then the Katana. Check out Dave Simpson if you want to hear what sounds you can get from an Orange cr120. It’s amazing.
Does the 40 watt version also have an effects loop?
Compare this to another transistor amp please for blues please
How does this compare to the Boss Katana Artist?
Maybe someone compared Boss Nextone to Blackstar Silverline?
For the price it sounds like a great clean amp. But as soon you turn the gain too much, it's sharp and shrill.
But, great cleans.
Bravi. Grazie
I wonder why I can't find any videos comparing the blues cube to the nextone
I own both. Nextone I use for my blackface and Marshall tones. Honestly BC Artist still has better valvey type sounds and amp feel. I gig both amps.
I'm a bit confused. It's not a modeling amp and not a digital amp. But it hooks up to a computer to add and tweak sounds.
The audio path is completely analog using analog circuits and does not go through AD DA conversion including the output jacks. It can still have digital controls that manipulate the electrical signals, voltages and frequencies, but the waveforms remain completely analog and they are never sampled through an analog to digital to analog conversion process through a IC chip or DSP. Hope that helps.
“It’s not a modeling amp but it’s essentially a modeling amp”
Harry Potter you Rock! LOL
Reminiscent of a Roland blues cube . It needs a blind test against some tube amps
How much do they cost in the UK?
£615
£439 for the 40w version
490,00 euro in Italy
This is just a copy of the Blackstar ID:TVP amps (not the ID:core). They have been out for ages but don't have the promotional hype that Boss is getting. I've had a few of them - the ID260 is a great amp - probably better that the Katana (I have one of them). It would be really good if someone could compare them but maybe Blackstar don't pay as much as Boss?
Roland Blues Cube reboot?
When do they ship?
Sounded good. Is the elephant in the room going to be the price i wonder? Seem to remember the blue cube was too expensive.
WHAAAT!!! There's an elephant in the room? Explains a lot
Decent solid state clean tones, the overdriven are lifeless. No-go for me.
Does it take fuzz/overdrive pedals well, or do they get mushy (like other modelling amps)?
@NoiseFeedMusic
I think you are wrong regarding th output stage. I use a modelling amp with a tube output stage, and i face the same problem.
The problem is in the DSP front end, that is better at processing signals in a lower frequency range (low on high frequency harmonics) vs distorted sounds, that has a lot of upper harmonics added --> this means that the amp model (which is just a simplified mathematical model) fail when
1) upper harmonics is removed in the anti-aliasing filters
2) the models for handling upper harmonics are insufficient
Hello. Very interesting comment on that topic since everybody talks about the speaker or power stage. Actually I had a stage for 2 weeks and got the problem with high frequencies even with the headphone output. A friend talked also about the dsp. Since you seem to know well that topic do you think it is because of bad quality dsp? Could Boss correct some aspects with a new firmware? I really loved the clean sounds and could get from the nextone and also some using pedals (I actually could get nice results with high gain pedals with no apparent high freq issue).
@@jbax69 If you are lucky it is a firmware problem that can be easily fixed, I doubt it since it is a common problem among many manufacturers.
The DSP might be fine, don't know, but as you probably know, the more complex calculations a computer has to run the more resources are required. To counteract latency (delay) some models have been optimized for speed omitting some details "most people are not gonna hear", but some do. Just like a CD vs a mp3 file. :)
Those, who are must successful to hear the imperfections are "bedroom guitarists", since imperfections are very noticeable when using high grade headphones (like Beyerdynamic DT 770 etc.). In a band situation those imperfections are hardly noticeable since the cymbals would drown them out.
Finally there is a risk that the simplified model doesn't cope with the complex signal that the player is feeding into the amp, and it sounds like crap - this is not very likely since people who spend a shitload of money on pedals, usually buys a more traditional amplifier.
Thanks a lot for such a detailed answer. I wdent for the nextone artist this Week end to give it a last try. I have now 4 weeks. Think you are right on many things. I put a dod carcosa in front of it and sounded very nice. As per the lead channel I still encounter problems in high overtones but tweaking the editor led me to nice sounding distortions. I'll experiment in the future and with my band soon. Thanks again.
I feel like you left the presence a little too high as well as treble
Who else gets a Credit Karma ad before EVERY youtube video?
18.10 I was like wow
I was given a carlsbro stingray super transistor amp I could hardly lift it in the car!!
The amp market is getting quite confusing. After the priceless boutique amps that only a happy few can afford (and maintain), now come the solid state amps with valve tones. Boss has already come out with the Blues Cube, the Katana and now this one. Blackstar, Line 6, Peavey are also present in this market among others. Nothing against it: I have tried lots of different amps but not any of them came close to a valve amp but for the VOX Pathfinder 15R. The price is affordable though, with a lot of tweaking available through a computer for those who like it... I prefer to spend more time playing rather than moving cursors on an interface. I'm an old-school guy who believes that nothing replaces a nice, playable guitar with good pickups, plugged into a well conceived amp with volume, gain, tone moving air through an efficient speaker. Period. My 2ç Rock on ! \m/
you liked the pathfinder more than any of their hybrid amps? im really digging their vt40x and av60, great hybid tube/digital and tube/analog. imho, i think hybrid is the future. or rather, should be the future. lol
mattymodeerf Yep: I'm plugging it in a 2x12 and I get optimal results. Dynamic, responsive, reacting at the guitar's volume pot just like a valve amp 🎸👍🏻
Why would anyone buy a solid state amp in the same bracket as a DSL40 or a Hot Rod Deluxe?
badger519 Yeah, did you buy one, and how much was it?
@badger519 Wow. So you could have got a Hot Rod, AC15, or a DSL40 for the same price bracket. I just don't get that at all. I guess if weight and maintenance are so important to you, it sounds OK. For me its all worth it when I get with a band in rehearsal and can crank one of my amps. Nothing matches the sound and feel of singing tubes for me.
@badger519 Oh OK. If the answer is "if you already have a tube amp and want a reliable lighter alternative" I get it. Have you played this Boss amp with a band? If so, how did it go? cheers
I traded in my AC15 for a Roland blues cube which is way more useable then the Vox. AC15’s are heavy, ridiculously loud and sound crap when you turn them down to bedroom levels also chucking a tube screamer or other drive pedals in front of it when it’s turned down is like trying to polish a turd.
@@sid35gb If you only ever play in your bedroom, you are missing out on what it really means to play an electric guitar, IMHO. Play in a rehearsal space with some friends. Open it up and let the tubes work. Its a completely different experience, not just the tone, but what it feels like to play guitar.
So this amp is for the digital purists?
The output stage is all analogue. The powers amp circuits are designed and built in the analogue world to replicate the feel and response of the valve equivalent.
It's made like most of your pedals, with a printed circuit board. Class D amp. Except you never have to bias the tubes.
Christopher Mayer I thought the video said it was class a/b...
@@dustylense it has four(4) separate class A/B poweramps. Preamp might be completely digital tho.
Christopher Mayer Class A/B amp that means like the Katana it’s valve amp loud.
Ok, I'm completely confused
EQ, gain en volume on the katana often need extreme settings to make it tube like, and it does a great job btw.
way to harsh overall, Turn Those knobs.
V60lp on the suhr? Or ML?
khoirus sobri you have good ear! I find it sounds like the 60’s too but my thinking is Suhr tends to put ML’s in most of their guitars. The V60LP are my favourites. When you decrease the volume of the guitar and boost the clean CH they come very close to the ML.