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  • @BroncosandBourbon
    @BroncosandBourbon  7 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Would you bench Bo Nix if he wasn't playing well on Sunday vs. Buccaneers? Would it help him avoid developing bad habits or would it shake his confidence? Let us know what you think!

    • @SuperflyReactions
      @SuperflyReactions 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      No he needs the whole season to learn even if that cost us the season, we need to know if he is our guy going forward 💯

    • @MrMileHighStephenSteel
      @MrMileHighStephenSteel 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We probably should have started Stiddy in hindsight. But I think we have to run with it now. Let him grow.

    • @Postnghost86
      @Postnghost86 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@MrMileHighStephenSteelstidham would be playing worse, just stop 🛑

    • @Postnghost86
      @Postnghost86 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Absolutely not. Right not Bo is the best player on that team, if they bench him, that says they are tanking for first round pick.

    • @davidbishop407
      @davidbishop407 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Nope. Gotta stick with it now. Better or worse.

  • @Tom_Agnetti
    @Tom_Agnetti 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Loved this interview. Jake was underappreciated by me after years of John Elway and his magic. Plummer made magic too. A great player. Really love his humility and made me feel better about Nix as this guy actually knows football. Yes, always on the rocks and let it breathe.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks, Tom!!! Jake was superb!! And I’ll let the bourbon breathe this week!

  • @gaberox1
    @gaberox1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    They don't make em like Jake Plummer anymore. Awesome interview, Phil great job letting the guest speak without interruption. Top notch stuff.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for checking out the show! Jake had so much insight to offer! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @vicchin8655
    @vicchin8655 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Jake the Snake!! Jake made a great point: Who’s the leader? Who’s getting paid the big money? Who’s gonna step up?

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It'll be Vele cause clearly some players are overpaid.

    • @vicchin8655
      @vicchin8655 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @maskcollector6949 Sutton asking for more money is a joke bro

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@vicchin8655 He even got an extra million but he's not showing up on game day. If checked out and going through the motions was a person.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @okieengineer8530
    @okieengineer8530 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Awesome interview and conversation! Jake always brings great energy. It’s easy to see why guys played hard when he was on the field.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jake was fired up!! Love it!! Thanks for watching the show!

  • @PaulieVavoom
    @PaulieVavoom 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Phil Milani, it's great to see you back in the mix. Glad you got this interview. I was greatly disappointed when the Broncos let Jake Plummer go back then. I alway thought he was one of Denver's most underrated QBs. Good luck with you channel Phil.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate it!! Great to be back talking about the Broncos. Hope to have great interviews like this every week!

  • @danwybrow7226
    @danwybrow7226 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The Snake! My childhood Broncos QB! Love getting to listen to this dude, Jake always has great perspective on things. Another awesome episode, Phil! 🫡

    • @danwybrow7226
      @danwybrow7226 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      “If you’re watching the Broncos, you might need this” 💀😂

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @BMHJR
    @BMHJR 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this show was a fever dream i had once. broncos and bourbon!! two great things in one show!

  • @blissfest
    @blissfest 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love that Jake always spits facts and doesn’t shy away from the truth even if it stings

  • @Bare_70
    @Bare_70 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Straight up respect to Jake Plummer 💯

  • @clintsires8151
    @clintsires8151 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This was a really good interview! Plumber is an honest dude, great guy. More people should listen to what he has to say. Appreciate him taking the time to provide his insight here!

    • @clintsires8151
      @clintsires8151 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Forgot to add-Do NOT bench Bo. He's the future. Keep building him up!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for checking out the show! Jake had a lot of smart things to say. Loved his insight!

  • @mikechurch485
    @mikechurch485 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man what a great interview Phil! I love this guy, loved him as a Broncos QB and I think I love him more now lol. This show should be watched in a theater setting and the entire current team should be the audience. He was spot on about saying "hey you got that big contract, now go out there and do it." I'm pumped up just after watching it! Great show today, great guest and Let's go Broncos!!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you so much!! Appreciate you checking out the show! The team certainly responded! Maybe they watched it too! 😂

  • @BroncosCentral
    @BroncosCentral 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Awesome interview Phil! I am glad Jake went to such depths to share his perspective on the Broncos young QB. It's definitely a process and he needs the help around him! But man I feel like the meat of this interview was him sharing his life experiences and all those call backs to 90s and 00s NFL and the Broncos. Those days certainly felt like a "golden" era for Broncos Country. Glad to have witnessed. Hopefully we get this season back on track and the team makes the strides we believe they can. Go Broncos!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you!! Appreciate you checking out the show!! Jake had so much insight!!

  • @generalgramps3326
    @generalgramps3326 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great interview! Good insight from Jake.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Appreciate you checking out the show!

  • @seanwilliams2926
    @seanwilliams2926 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love this interview with the snake 🐍 Jake! So authentic and informative. 💯 👏

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @blinkjoe7587
    @blinkjoe7587 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What’s good Phil ! Glad to see you still reporting on the Broncos 💙🧡💙🧡

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great to be talking Broncos again!! And thanks for checking out the show!

  • @ericbell1374
    @ericbell1374 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My dad was a Cardinals fan going back to when they were in Chicago, when he was very young. Through the years he always loved the cardinals wherever they went. Through the years he lost interest in football but always followed what the cardinals were doing. When the cardinals drafted Plummer though, his interest in football started picking up, and when Jake started his first few games my dad became an active fan again. Didn't matter how many picks he threw, my dad started watching a lot of football because he appreciated the person and player Jake is and was. And he appreciated the comebacks and what Jake helped do for the team he loved going back to when he first knew what football was. Now my dad hated the broncos for some reason, but i was a die hard broncos fan going back to when i figured out what football was. I loved John elway for the comebacks, the impossible victories, the throws you'd never see from any other player, not the picks or the Superbowl losses. So when Jake came aboard my dad loved Jake so much he'd watch broncos games with me. And he was such a believer in what Jake could do, he'd keep reminding me during the amazing games, that he wasn't surprised what Jake helped the broncos do because he saw all this stuff from when Jake was a cardinal. So if Jake signs off on Bo, we all better be patient. Remember elway tried to take a snap from under one of his guards once...

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you for the awesome comment!! Jake is the man!

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I love Jake…glad I his jersey is part of my collection

  • @anthonylucero1910
    @anthonylucero1910 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good to see some Phil Broncos Content, it's a good day😎

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Appreciate it!! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you!! Great to be back talking Broncos!!

  • @uherris
    @uherris 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great interview. Back to back great interviews. Jake the snake with solid advice/points.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @Trazor2k0
    @Trazor2k0 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Heck yeah this is so awesome, missed you Phil! Always had love for Jake the Snake, he was my first jersey ever, I remember the one time we lost I wasn't wearing my jersey and my dad told it me it was my fault for not wearing it jokingly 😂 I was all bummed

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was the same way growing up! Had to wear the same thing every Sunday! 😂 Thanks for checking out the show!

  • @CThomas-wg4gc
    @CThomas-wg4gc 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Let Bo develop like a qb ought to. Peyton manning was 4-11 his rookie year WITH Marvin Harrison. Enough of blame game, we are Rocky Mountain built, let’s act like it and show loyalty of the Rocky Mountains !! Rocky Mountain tough !!

  • @JonathanSwint
    @JonathanSwint 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great interview man! 10/10

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @chuckgilbert8670
    @chuckgilbert8670 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love listening to Jake! Great attitude during and after his football career. What a treasure trove of wisdom and experience. I always thought he should never have been benched or traded when they drafted Cutler. That was a huge mistake by the Broncos... and the beginning of the end for Coach Shanahan in Denver.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @dennygrux
    @dennygrux 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating interview. Jake is one of the under-appreciated Broncos from the past. Wonderful attitude that needs to be instilled in this current iteration of the Broncs. Great job , Phil! Glad you found another platform to continue your commentary on the Broncos.

  • @Dh-is5ro
    @Dh-is5ro 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was the most honest takes I’ve heard on this team in quite some time. I believe he’s speaking directly about Patrick Surtain II and Courtland Sutton specifically. Jake played with Champ. PSII does not make enough game changing plays in the game to justify him being crowned “best corner in the league.” Champ attacked the ball and had a “the ball is mine” mentality that I just don’t see with PSII. Courtland sutton is way too big and slow, we don’t seem to have the natural born leaders on either side of the football. PSII specifically needs to step up more, he just got paid alot of money to be getting called for PI and illegal touching down the field. PSII needs to chill on the crowning himself and go make some god damn plays.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @jeremyorme5085
    @jeremyorme5085 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Miss watching you play Jake!

  • @AdamSandoval-yi8zm
    @AdamSandoval-yi8zm 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Jake the Snake. Could have been an analyst on CBS game day. Nice to him hearing talk about football, and the Denver Broncos

  • @JoelBerg-b2n
    @JoelBerg-b2n 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Another fantastic interview Phil! Loved the energy! Jake the Snake had some great insight

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @quentincaldwell4302
    @quentincaldwell4302 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We love Jake

  • @Frenchyk
    @Frenchyk 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was a GREAT interview. Salute to Jake the Snake because his commentary was on point and refreshing.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Appreciate it!! Thanks for checking out the show!

  • @justintavares9179
    @justintavares9179 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great interview. The only thing concerning is game plan. Will let rookies be rookies

  • @FilmAshton
    @FilmAshton 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Legend.

  • @braswellkeith59
    @braswellkeith59 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really liked this interview with Jake. I enjoyed listening to him. I wish he would consider being a head coach in this league. I really do think he would make a great NFL coach.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @dennygrux
    @dennygrux 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This should be mandatory viewing for Bo Nix.... and all the other Broncos for that matter.

  • @brandoncarpio9418
    @brandoncarpio9418 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I believe playing and going through the fire will ultimately develop Bo more than sitting on the bench ever could. It’s not like he has a really good veteran qb to sit behind and learn from.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bo looked great Sunday!! Gotta keep it rolling!

  • @thedarkapostle6025
    @thedarkapostle6025 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Quit drinking in 2010 and never looked back, but if there is one thing I miss is the smell of a fine Bourbon. This was my fist watch and it won't be my last. Miss you in Broncos media, with you and Mase gone it feels hollow but this was awesome loved hearing from Jake...that 05 season was incredible I was a new father and my Broncos were back baby!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Congrats! Awesome to hear!
      It’s great to be back talking Broncos. Appreciate you checking out the show. Hope to have great content and interviews each Friday!

    • @thedarkapostle6025
      @thedarkapostle6025 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @BroncosandBourbon keep it up Phil & I'll keep watching

  • @melvinwedgle7345
    @melvinwedgle7345 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love Jake the Snake!!!

  • @ownyourpiece
    @ownyourpiece 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, Jake! Tell it like it is! I was wondering who dog on the Broncos! We some players to hold their teammates accountable!

  • @Spoon101
    @Spoon101 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This fan base, has shown very little ability to be patient with player growth. Well most of the world is instant gratification or bust.

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Broncos need a culture change cause the fans generally don't understand football and have a fast food mentality. At least WAS fans study context and film. Broncos fans have no semblance of understanding context so far. They don't realize they're 85mil dead cap, etc. It doesn't click.

  • @nikolasb8313
    @nikolasb8313 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This channel needs more subs, c'mon guys! We're gonna get tip notch interviews

  • @dante316a
    @dante316a 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i could see the shots fired at ps2 here

  • @nathanjohnson2185
    @nathanjohnson2185 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great episode and can’t go wrong with anything from Heaven Hill!

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Heaven Hill is great!

  • @adamkern3548
    @adamkern3548 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hitting it out of the park with CHJ and Jake Plummer in back to back weeks

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @johnesquibel8268
    @johnesquibel8268 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice interview Phil! I liked Jake’s comments about players stepping up and being accountable. Also what will it take to get the running game going? It seems like they arent very creative. Would motion help?

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for checking out the show! Hope to bring great interviews like this every week!

  • @getumbo
    @getumbo 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We're grateful for our founder's good sense! 😁

  • @rmacsportcg1319
    @rmacsportcg1319 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jake! Love the Woody Page like message from you!

  • @ulmcnevins
    @ulmcnevins 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I miss you guys over on the Bronco site. Can you tell us what happen. I always listened to all your vids.

  • @cuttingedgeforge1420
    @cuttingedgeforge1420 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    When are we going to talk about the worst offensive line in the nfl. Over paid second stringers on any other team. If you can't protection don't matterthe schemes. I blame the o-line for 80% of our problems

  • @edwinespinoza8236
    @edwinespinoza8236 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are you going to be doing the neutral zone? Miss them episodes

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      NZ is officially retired 😢 But I’ll be here every Friday bringing you interviews like it! Hope you’ll check them out!

  • @DennisMurtha-eg7ld
    @DennisMurtha-eg7ld 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ❤JAKE🎉always grateful😊let's get going BRONCOS🎉great job PHIL you are BRONCOS country's everything😅

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great to be back talking Broncos!! Jake is the man!!

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Plummer hit it on the head, this team has no leaders to hold the players accountable especially on offense. What is frustrating for me is a lot of the players came back and the offense is the same, so the team should be further a long to help out the rookie quarterback. I am also disappointed in Sean. Having a rookie quarterback throw the ball 42 times in Seattle…really? So frustrating.

  • @DominicNamorCavazos
    @DominicNamorCavazos 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just take shots Phil 🥃 cheers! 🍻

  • @markvonruden7382
    @markvonruden7382 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You need to get a whiskey ball ice mold. Much better than using standard ice.

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Been using a giant square mold! Those ball molds too are cool too. Love the look in the glass. Harder to use those molds though?

  • @RuNzWiThDooBiEs
    @RuNzWiThDooBiEs 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What time is bourbon ?

  • @maskcollector6949
    @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anybody acting like it's Nix's fault when there's literally no one around him doing anything right not named Vele... and Reynolds only recently stepped up last week...
    You can't have your rookie qb be the leading rusher and blame him without calling yourself an idiot first. It's not just on his footwork. So dumb. Ditto with WR's who are supposed to be lifelines for him, but instead who drop everything. The team has severely underperformed around him and you're just looking for a scapegoat. Payton needs to do play action, they need a run game. You need a TE who can actually catch and run the right routes. This team hasn't even been functional around him so far. He needs NFL level play around him to do well as a rookie qb, not subpar performances.
    Highkey need whomped upside the head (HARD) for even thinking it's ever just been on Nix.

  • @MrZebraman26
    @MrZebraman26 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First taste gotta do neat with maybe a drop of water or so… then you can earn the rocks

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Gotta earn the rocks!! 💪 Love that. Gonna do it near this week

  • @oliverbillingsley-b3x
    @oliverbillingsley-b3x 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds like a benching would help Bo. Humble reflection. Listen to what Jake is saying

  • @MichaelPierce-hd1ow
    @MichaelPierce-hd1ow 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing how fast all the rats run to hide behind the rookie QB to shield themselves from accountability. It happened to Zach on the Jets, and it is already happening to Bo on the Broncos. I bet the coaches here do not also rat out and hide behind Zach the way the Jets coaches did. Worst of all was the owner piled on. Completely reprehensible. It is easy to spot the cancers.

  • @TomQuillyn
    @TomQuillyn 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    it get 4 views

  • @ralphpadilla9283
    @ralphpadilla9283 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Broncos players need to step up and play ball. And Coach Sean Payton needs to step down and find another job elsewhere.

  • @JoshSimpson47
    @JoshSimpson47 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We had a LEADER his name was Justin Simmons

  • @richardpintor3888
    @richardpintor3888 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Miss Jake! Good vibe dude of all time!! Should have never got cutler. 🫤🫤

  • @scaledaiethics
    @scaledaiethics 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great stuff, as always, Jake. You’re a lifetime favourite and always will be, mate.
    Would LOVE to help the mushroom biz with free PR/web marketing advice if ever it might prove helpful. Go Broncos

  • @vicchin8655
    @vicchin8655 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @BroncosandBourbon You have to do a live at least once a week especially when you have a guess like Jake

    • @BroncosandBourbon
      @BroncosandBourbon  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good idea!! Will look to incorporate some live down the road!

  • @chasdenver
    @chasdenver 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    BRONCOS ARE PATHETIC, STARTING WITH SEAN PAYTON...SIMPLE BENCH BO NIX, put Zach Wilson for the Best Chance to Win. Nix has no experience, I DOUBT NIX experience and ability, NOW

    • @bradwesterman-wp1kb
      @bradwesterman-wp1kb 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You need a new team.

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wilson does not deserve any chances with this franchise he's trade bait. He had his time and he can play elsewhere. This is Nix's team.

  • @dluze2065
    @dluze2065 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The narrative for a rookie quarterback is that usually, a tight end is their best friend. The thought is that rookie quarterbacks will have a more significant target share in the tight end position. These young players find comfort in the short area of the field in which a tight end will be running routes. Dulcich

    • @maskcollector6949
      @maskcollector6949 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dulcich is the worst starting TE I've ever seen after last week.

  • @lonestarpatriot876
    @lonestarpatriot876 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Good knowledge from Jake. I really think the Broncos can get this running game going by running out of spread formations more. I also think Bo can use his legs more, and SP can call some more designed runs by Bo. He had 1 designed run last game and got a good gain. That is it. You have to put pressure on defenses to defend everything.

  • @Beavis1
    @Beavis1 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Jake and Shanny could have worked it out they could have won multiple Super Bowls together.