Soo, the only video I could find from the company, pronounced Daher kind of like Die-Her. th-cam.com/video/w6cz5XtNT0E/w-d-xo.html Would that be the "correct" was to pronounce it?
Daher have taken two amazing aircraft and transformed them far beyond their original concept. The TBM from a Mooney design. The Kodiak 300 took the 100 into the next level. Daher took the cutting edge and made it stronger and sharper than ever.
I think you mean the Kodiak 900. It was underdeveloped by Quest Aircraft before the purchase by Daher in 2019. It is essentially a Kodiak 100, stretched almost 4 feet, and powered by a 900-shp PT6A-140A. Daher did have the final say to what modifications came to the 900, but it is a disservice to the engineers at Quest, that had already developed many of the improvements, to say Daher engineered the 900.
The Kodiak was not developed by Daher. Quest aircraft began developing the Kodiak in 1999, and shipped their first Kodiak 100 in March of 2009. Quest Aircraft was purchased by Daher ten years later in 2019.
I'm sure you know by how its "day her". LOL Lower cost option, how about Piper? Then there is the versatile Pilatus. The TBM once was a Mooney. The design changed hands a couple times and ended up with Daher. It's made in Tarbes, France. They got the name TBM from TarBes Mooney, TBM. I believe they are the fastest of the bunch, and have a lot of dedicated owners. At that price point, your getting close to Slowtation (Citation) territory. 8) They are a great airplane!! 8) --gary
Weight and balance. Weight. Drag. It is a private aircraft. You can take a detour to the south of France for a potty break and only add 15 minutes to your trip.
If I had a few million to spend on a turboprop I would purchase the TBM 900, it has all the major airframe upgrades without all the fluff and added cost: 5 blade composite propeller, drag reduction features, winglets, redesigned engine intake, the full 850 SHP available on take off, longer range, faster speed, pilot door standard, redesigned exhaust stacks gained 2 kts speed, etc. All the drag reductions Daher did would equal an additional 50 HP. Plus the Garmin G1000 glass cockpit.
HELLO, The Epic E1000 GX is FAA type certified aircraft back in 2021, yeah they started as kit back in 2005. Do some exacting comparison, it sure would be interesting. The Epic will appeal to a different kind of buyer and it will hold a price advantage around 1 million USD over the TBM which is about right for a newer manufacturer without the number of units sold and in operation. Still, a valid competitor.
Totally! I would actually still prefer an Epic E1000 GX over a TBM. I particularly love the fact that the Epic houses an engine of 1200 horsepowers, which is a lot more powerful than the TBM 960s’ turbine. 👍
I often see guys walking towards this plane with a briefcase in one hand and a porta-potty under the other arm. I also see them walking towards their Pilatus. With a briefcase in one hand and a box of chocolates for the mistress in the other.
Virtually everything you say about Epic is incorrect. They haven't done kits for many years, their present model is certified and has twice the useful payload at max fuel fuel than the TBM. All the numbers of the TBM you have given are half lies. For instance the TBM maximum speed uses almost twice the fuel at the recommended speeds which are much lower. You'll never use those speeds unless you are in fire or something worst.. This video is either paid by TBM or made by someone who has no idea of aviation.
It doesn't fly more then three hours I think at a time, so lavatory isn't necessary. I went to Cali 5 hrs and didn't need the bathroom if I was prepared in advance.
I like the TBM 960 but... If I won the Lottery today I wouldn't buy one.. Personally I love twin engine aircrafts also the TBM in my opinion isn't wide enough.. If you were to take the TBM Fuselage and split it in half Vertically from the nose and add that half onto the current fuselage.. I was thinking I a Twin engine up front cold air intake for the engines in the center and exhaust out each side. Wings Wider by 2 feet ish and longer by 8 feet. In my 1000 gallon fuel total 350 each wing and a center tank of 400 gallons. Total Passenger at 6 with two pilots but enough left over for cargo and that sort of thing.. I really think Dual engines whether mounted at the nose of the plane or on the wings would also increase the Cruising speed. Idk Just brainstorming love the electronics love the auto throttles and autopilot system love the Heating/A/c unit anti ice system along with all the other features.. If cabin isn't pressurized I would recommend Pressurized cabin up to 45k feet. The plane looks great but a twin engine like I mentioned for business class or utility use would be the best.. Oh and handicap Accessibility mounts on the floor for passengers that may be in a Electric Wheel chair example my electric wheelchair is a Quantum Q6 Edge HD The chair itself weights 350lbs plus my weight puts it in around 800 lbs so the capability to be flexible would be great on weight. Also some sort of chair lift design to bring the electric chair on board the craft.
"The chair itself weights 350lbs plus my weight puts it in around 800 lbs" so your weight is 450lbs? Then I get why you want it to be wider. Most people are not that wide and don't need it that wide. They like the andantage of having a smaller aircraft from the outside, though nobody would complain about it beeing "bigger on the inside"
@@LorenTedford Those of exceptional mass width and height will want a vehicle that offers exceptional space and pay the price. For averagesized person the size is not an issue, people fly little Cessnas and Ultralighs too, this one is faster and a little bigger.
Two engines va one: Double the mainrainence and fuel costs. Also, a P&W PT-6A is about $1,000,000 each. So, ass another Million and change to the price tag. Aircraft design is ten thousand compromises. Larger size is more drag, which hurts cruise speed, and added drag and weight hurts climb rate. An aircraft has to climb at a minimum gradient by law, and due to reality of departure with terrain and city skylines. Aircraft such as this represent 100,000 manhours of research, design, detail, construction. If it doesn't meet your mission, find a different airplane. I suggest Pilatus PC-12 at the same $4.8M price-point. Or a Beechcraft King-Air if you want a twin with lots of space. Or a Piaggio if you want the fastest and most stylish twin turboprop available. Everyone is better off with a retired Boeing, if fuel and repair cost is no object.
@@FiveTwoSevenTHR What do you mean why?? I guess you never were taught ethics, or don't live in the West. Because Diamond Aircraft Industries is Chinese, they work for PLA and CCP.
First class is being able to light up a cigar on a flight. With a bottle of bourbon. And a case full of rifles under the seat. And your friends and family can come for free. And you can take a detour to see Mt.Rushmore. Stop for a steak dinner in Chicago. Get a nice hotel at Niagara, and take a long morning run down to Miami for lunch.
Great aircraft certainly, but since hearing this syrupy commentry in this video I've decided to buy something that doesn't make me feel like a customer of some car dealership in Hicksville USA
How many millions do you have to spend for a toilet? There’s a TH-cam cannel of a guy who flies one of these. He brings his cup of coffee but doesn’t drink it until he’s about 30 minutes from landing. A lot of money considering the lack of basic biological necessities.
Dahah 😂
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Soo, the only video I could find from the company, pronounced Daher kind of like Die-Her. th-cam.com/video/w6cz5XtNT0E/w-d-xo.html Would that be the "correct" was to pronounce it?
Aha, Daha!😂
Daha? Cluedart. Tard. 😂 Maybe take a second to understand the pronunciation of a word ending in “R” in French. You’re welcome.
Daher have taken two amazing aircraft and transformed them far beyond their original concept. The TBM from a Mooney design. The Kodiak 300 took the 100 into the next level. Daher took the cutting edge and made it stronger and sharper than ever.
I think you mean the Kodiak 900. It was underdeveloped by Quest Aircraft before the purchase by Daher in 2019. It is essentially a Kodiak 100, stretched almost 4 feet, and powered by a 900-shp PT6A-140A. Daher did have the final say to what modifications came to the 900, but it is a disservice to the engineers at Quest, that had already developed many of the improvements, to say Daher engineered the 900.
The Kodiak was not developed by Daher. Quest aircraft began developing the Kodiak in 1999, and shipped their first Kodiak 100 in March of 2009. Quest Aircraft was purchased by Daher ten years later in 2019.
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I'm sure you know by how its "day her". LOL Lower cost option, how about Piper? Then there is the versatile Pilatus. The TBM once was a Mooney. The design changed hands a couple times and ended up with Daher. It's made in Tarbes, France. They got the name TBM from TarBes Mooney, TBM. I believe they are the fastest of the bunch, and have a lot of dedicated owners. At that price point, your getting close to Slowtation (Citation) territory. 8) They are a great airplane!! 8) --gary
Excellent video! Well done sir!
I think Daher could look at lengthening the fuselage and widening the cabin a bit to put a legit independent lavatory in.
Especially for the price point
Weight and balance. Weight. Drag.
It is a private aircraft. You can take a detour to the south of France for a potty break and only add 15 minutes to your trip.
If I had a few million to spend on a turboprop I would purchase the TBM 900, it has all the major airframe upgrades without all the fluff and added cost: 5 blade composite propeller, drag reduction features, winglets, redesigned engine intake, the full 850 SHP available on take off, longer range, faster speed, pilot door standard, redesigned exhaust stacks gained 2 kts speed, etc. All the drag reductions Daher did would equal an additional 50 HP. Plus the Garmin G1000 glass cockpit.
HELLO, The Epic E1000 GX is FAA type certified aircraft back in 2021, yeah they started as kit back in 2005. Do some exacting comparison, it sure would be interesting. The Epic will appeal to a different kind of buyer and it will hold a price advantage around 1 million USD over the TBM which is about right for a newer manufacturer without the number of units sold and in operation. Still, a valid competitor.
Totally! I would actually still prefer an Epic E1000 GX over a TBM. I particularly love the fact that the Epic houses an engine of 1200 horsepowers, which is a lot more powerful than the TBM 960s’ turbine. 👍
@@southernlights3682uh. The epic is a turbine as well... it's just a different variant of the PT6 turbine
A Dr down the street from me was in a fatal crash in Ohio in a 700 TBM. Loss of control in good weather about 3 yrs ago. Its on You Tube
run away trim?
It's not DAHA ,it's DA AIR .
No, it’s DA HA! They got famous for their hit “Fly on me!”
IMHO it makes more sense to compare it to the Pilatus PC-12 than to the Epic.
French planes are the best!❤ Falcon too!
well their good😂
Thank you for a great video. The pronunciation of Daher is closer to Dah Er or Dah AIR, more or less. It is most certainly not DA HA.
I often see guys walking towards this plane with a briefcase in one hand and a porta-potty under the other arm. I also see them walking towards their Pilatus. With a briefcase in one hand and a box of chocolates for the mistress in the other.
I'll take two thanks.
In that case, get a King Air 350i.🙂
oh yes , i want my one too
Nice Video :)
The pilatus pc12 ngx is very Best, because have lavatory, and fly rangue is 3500 km, and is more beautyful ,
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Was that payload number after full fuel or total?
Holy Guacamole!
You should have
named it Sexy Beast.
Virtually everything you say about Epic is incorrect. They haven't done kits for many years, their present model is certified and has twice the useful payload at max fuel fuel than the TBM.
All the numbers of the TBM you have given are half lies. For instance the TBM maximum speed uses almost twice the fuel at the recommended speeds which are much lower. You'll never use those speeds unless you are in fire or something worst..
This video is either paid by TBM or made by someone who has no idea of aviation.
probably, and the PC 12 is similarly priced and has two additional passenger seats, near the same if not more cargo capacity, and a lavatory
It doesn't fly more then three hours I think at a time, so lavatory isn't necessary. I went to Cali 5 hrs and didn't need the bathroom if I was prepared in advance.
I like the TBM 960 but... If I won the Lottery today I wouldn't buy one.. Personally I love twin engine aircrafts also the TBM in my opinion isn't wide enough.. If you were to take the TBM Fuselage and split it in half Vertically from the nose and add that half onto the current fuselage.. I was thinking I a Twin engine up front cold air intake for the engines in the center and exhaust out each side. Wings Wider by 2 feet ish and longer by 8 feet. In my 1000 gallon fuel total 350 each wing and a center tank of 400 gallons. Total Passenger at 6 with two pilots but enough left over for cargo and that sort of thing.. I really think Dual engines whether mounted at the nose of the plane or on the wings would also increase the Cruising speed. Idk Just brainstorming love the electronics love the auto throttles and autopilot system love the Heating/A/c unit anti ice system along with all the other features.. If cabin isn't pressurized I would recommend Pressurized cabin up to 45k feet. The plane looks great but a twin engine like I mentioned for business class or utility use would be the best.. Oh and handicap Accessibility mounts on the floor for passengers that may be in a Electric Wheel chair example my electric wheelchair is a Quantum Q6 Edge HD The chair itself weights 350lbs plus my weight puts it in around 800 lbs so the capability to be flexible would be great on weight. Also some sort of chair lift design to bring the electric chair on board the craft.
"The chair itself weights 350lbs plus my weight puts it in around 800 lbs" so your weight is 450lbs?
Then I get why you want it to be wider.
Most people are not that wide and don't need it that wide. They like the andantage of having a smaller aircraft from the outside, though nobody would complain about it beeing "bigger on the inside"
@dannyfar7989 The other issue is the low ceilings being almost 6 foot with head protection gear.
@@LorenTedford Those of exceptional mass width and height will want a vehicle that offers exceptional space and pay the price. For averagesized person the size is not an issue, people fly little Cessnas and Ultralighs too, this one is faster and a little bigger.
Two engines va one: Double the mainrainence and fuel costs. Also, a P&W PT-6A is about $1,000,000 each. So, ass another Million and change to the price tag.
Aircraft design is ten thousand compromises. Larger size is more drag, which hurts cruise speed, and added drag and weight hurts climb rate. An aircraft has to climb at a minimum gradient by law, and due to reality of departure with terrain and city skylines.
Aircraft such as this represent 100,000 manhours of research, design, detail, construction.
If it doesn't meet your mission, find a different airplane. I suggest Pilatus PC-12 at the same $4.8M price-point. Or a Beechcraft King-Air if you want a twin with lots of space. Or a Piaggio if you want the fastest and most stylish twin turboprop available.
Everyone is better off with a retired Boeing, if fuel and repair cost is no object.
The best looking single engine GA aircaft on the market in my opinion is the Diamond DA50. I'd love to see Diamond bring a turboprop to the market.
I hope that Chinese company goes bankrupt.
@@pistonburner6448 why?
@@FiveTwoSevenTHR What do you mean why?? I guess you never were taught ethics, or don't live in the West.
Because Diamond Aircraft Industries is Chinese, they work for PLA and CCP.
@@pistonburner6448 I hope Diamond becomes the best GA company
@@FiveTwoSevenTHR I hope your family is the first to the camps.
Beautiful but for that price it’s not the best option.
Congrats on the video.
good
What? No lavatory? At 4.8 million ---> That fact is absurd!
There’s a lavatory option, but it takes one seat away
At that price it comes with a blonde one.
Ridiculous!! Why can’t they put 6 sqfoot space more by lengthening the plane and correspondingly increase engine power? How much more it will cost
To use the lavatory, simply open the pilot’s door. 😂😂
Juse a trash can, that always work for me..cheap. and you can throw your shit out in the air.
Otto Celera will crush this in every category. My fingers are crossed.
Ewww, it won’t crush it in looks
@@superskullmaster That sentiment is why you probably can't afford one.
It will first have to make into production.
Now put a trailing link landing gear in it and it won't be like landing a shopping cart.
Landing like a shopping cart?
DAHA! I knew it! 😂
Good thing I’m not wealthy, because- cool as this plane is- it’s tiny and I’m a big guy. I would be crammed in like a sardine 😢
So training 250+ hours in Cessnas to learn to fly something like this is a no go?
Daha DAha where did you learn to read?
Whats the essence of having a 4.8million plane without an actual lav especially with a out 2000miles of range...it's crazy...
Dahah -- Robovoice
No need for a porta potty. Just a couple empty Gatorade bottles.
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Crash because icing
Id definitely buy one… if i won the lottery and had an extra 5 mill to burn.
You going to buy one and store it in a hangar?? what about cost to upkeep, try $at least $1/2 mil a year??
5 mil wow.....ill just travel first class....meals shower bathroom bed....
First class is being able to light up a cigar on a flight. With a bottle of bourbon. And a case full of rifles under the seat. And your friends and family can come for free. And you can take a detour to see Mt.Rushmore. Stop for a steak dinner in Chicago. Get a nice hotel at Niagara, and take a long morning run down to Miami for lunch.
@@Triple_J.1 I fly international,
They will never get a Parachute
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what should I do if I have to go to the toilet?
If you don't know how to pronounce the company name, I'm not sure I can trust the rest of your information.
5 million and no toilet? No thanks
You take out the rear seats and pay 35 Grant. Then you have a toilet....
I wouldnt want to have it. Cause I am not cleaning it.
Great aircraft certainly, but since hearing this syrupy commentry in this video I've decided to buy something that doesn't make me feel like a customer of some car dealership in Hicksville USA
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You keep chewing words !
How many millions do you have to spend for a toilet? There’s a TH-cam cannel of a guy who flies one of these. He brings his cup of coffee but doesn’t drink it until he’s about 30 minutes from landing. A lot of money considering the lack of basic biological necessities.
Dah-hah
Still needs Prist. Not that good...
I'm sure, the next evolution will have a larger fuel heater that doesn't needs Prist
Waaaay too small inside 😢
"DAHAW"???
Pc12 is far superior
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