If you are Japanese or Korean you might find some words from Proto-Japonic and Proto-Korean unrecognisable. That's mostly because of the Chinese influence and I'd say it isn't surprising at all.
@@Anwwoo Yes and it is the most important thing. To understand that on the other side on the world humans are still humans and make no difference with your people.
Most of these words are hypothetical or speculative and do not exist in the Turkic language, and the rest of the words we find in most Eurasian languages as well, and These languages failed to pass the Swadesh list. For example: 1-The word "sound" in Turkic is (Ses), not kü(b). 2-The word "nose" in Turkic is "burun" and is similar to the Welsh word "ffroen". 3-The word "neck" in Turkic is not the word "bakan", but rather the word: "Boyun" or "Muyın" It is similar to Old Irish : muin Welsh : mŵn. 4-The word "big" in Turkic is (Bedük) not "eg- id-". 5-The word "river" in Turkic is (Irmak) not "ugur". 6-The word "bad" in Turkic is "Çür -ük" not "jak" The word "Çür -ük" in Turkic is similar to the Armenian word "char" meaning "bad", and The Basque word "char" means bad. 7-The word "hair" (kıl) in Turkic found in Other language: Welsh: (gwallt). Bengali: (cula) Gujarati: (Vāḷa). 8-the word "door"in Turkic is (Kapı) not "eb". 9-The word "eye" in Turkic is "Kör" not "jal". 10-The Turkic word "five" (bel) is not similar to the Mongolian words "ta -bu", Tungusian "ta -nga", Korean "ta" and Japanese "itu". 11-The word "ear,"or "hear" (Kulak) is present in most Eurasian languages, for example, we find it in Welsh: "cluas" Old Celtic : Kloustā 12-(-ma)negation It is found in most Eurasian languages, including Assyrian and Arabic. 13- The word "song" (Yır) in Turkic, is found in the Sumerian : "ir", in the Yenisian : "ir" , in Armenian: "yerg". in Kurdish: "cur", etc., is not exclusive to these languages, 14-The Altaic language family does not exist, but it is a doctrine that some cling to for unscientific purposes.
Doerfer examined Mongol and Manchu-Tungus commonalities in comparison with Turkic. He found 609 words in M-T languages that were common with Mongolian, 177 of which are also shared with Turkic.
I think tungusic, Mongolic and Turkic should be a same branch which is Altaic transeurasian family , while Korean and Japanese should be a mixture of Altaic and other languages branch
the turkish word kara and the japanese word Karu, Kuro are clearly related believe it or not!!you can continue to present your dravidian theory to everyone like a linguist!!!
If it is proven then give me links to the research you've taken this idea from, tell me name of the author of the research and all the other stuff. Ah, yeah... There is no such research.
@@kutwor5506 Google marti robbeets. Thats transeurasic. And If you want a goddy can you read the new Research about saka issyk inscription. Now proven iranic 2023 😋
Most of these words are hypothetical or speculative and do not exist in the Turkic language, and the rest of the words we find in most Eurasian languages as well, and These languages failed to pass the Swadesh list. For example: 1-The word "sound" in Turkic is (Ses), not kü(b). 2-The word "nose" in Turkic is "burun" and is similar to the Welsh word "ffroen". 3-The word "neck" in Turkic is not the word "bakan", but rather the word: "Boyun" or "Muyın" It is similar to Old Irish : muin Welsh : mŵn. 4-The word "big" in Turkic is (Bedük) not "eg- id-". 5-The word "river" in Turkic is (Irmak) not "ugur". 6-The word "bad" in Turkic is "Çür -ük" not "jak" The word "Çür -ük" in Turkic is similar to the Armenian word "char" meaning "bad", and The Basque word "char" means bad. 7-The word "hair" (kıl) in Turkic found in Other language: Welsh: (gwallt). Bengali: (cula) Gujarati: (Vāḷa). 8-the word "door"in Turkic is (Kapı) not "eb". 9-The word "eye" in Turkic is "Kör" not "jal". 10-The Turkic word "five" (bel) is not similar to the Mongolian words "ta -bu", Tungusian "ta -nga", Korean "ta" and Japanese "itu". 11-The word "ear,"or "hear" (Kulak) is present in most Eurasian languages, for example, we find it in Welsh: "cluas" Old Celtic : Kloustā 12-(-ma)negation It is found in most Eurasian languages, including Assyrian and Arabic. 13- The word "song" (Yır) in Turkic, is found in the Sumerian : "ir", in the Yenisian : "ir" , in Armenian: "yerg". in Kurdish: "cur", etc., is not exclusive to these languages, 14-The Altaic language family does not exist, but it is a doctrine that some cling to for unscientific purposes.
bro, you should first have learned Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, and several Turkic languages in order to write something like this, you simply lied about half the words, saying that there are no such words in Turkic and were simply invented🤡 the word jek or jak (bad) is in Kazakh and in the Kyrgyz language, means "hatred". There is also the word "küb", and the word ses - in Turkish it is a borrowing from Persian. And the word “bakan” is also in proto-Turkic, as a result of which it became “moyun/boyun”. The word "ugur" is in Kazakh and in Kyrgyz "Ozhor" - a small river. The word çür-ük is possibly from the Turkic çirik - pus, and in Armenian it is a borrowing from Turkish. The word "eb" - door is in the Kazakh and Kyrgyz languages, it became in "eshik" - EB - ESH". Kapı - from the proto-Turkic Bag, Covering. The negation suffix -ma - this is typical for agglutive languages, Arabic languages are inflectional and maybe this borrowing, -ma - in the Kipchak dialect was transformed into -ba. The word yr - song in Armenian is a borrowing from Turkic, the Sumerian word may be an invention of the author, or a coincidence, but I did not find such information that there is such a word. And what we have is that you write something you don’t know, and as always, those who oppose the Altai family are ignoramuses who don’t even know a single language from the Altai theory. But if you knew, you would translate the old words from. proto-Turkic and from proto-Mongolian, Japanese, Korean, Tungus-Manchu, you would find a lot of similarities, even now in Japanese there are many words similar to Turkic, Mongolian and Korean and this cannot be a borrowing, the Turks never had contact with the Japanese in the 1st century and before, only with the beginning of the Mongol Empire, the Mongols and Turks began to contact them, but the proto-Japanese language died out when the Mongols and Turks contacted them. So don't misinform people.
What about several Indo-European languages, where similar words were found, this is also disinformation, I did not find a single such word, in the listed languages, I looked at everything, the word Neck in Welsh and in others are completely different words, like Hair. If there was, then this is a later borrowing from the Hunnic language, the languages of India were also in contact with Turkic languages, in particular Chagatai, their rulers spoke and wrote, like the army, in Chagatai, which is related to Turkic, even one of their languages has a Turkic name " Urdu" from the Turkic word "Horde" - Army. Either these words were invented by the author himself, or coincidences. Proto-Indo-European has completely different words.
@@aruuito I don't understand why this persian guy is so ardent opponent of altaic theory. Why are they here. He and his beloved soulmates are under every altaic related videos. Don't they have a personal life or smth. Why I don't see koreans or japanese or mongolians themselves who disagreeing with this hypothesis? And what's interesting they don't speak either turkic languages, neither mongolian or japanese to understand what we say. I would call it intuitional understanding of a language. It didn't happened when I learned russian and english and portuguese, but it happened when I learnt japanese being a kirgyz myself. Japanese seems intuitively easy when you don't put that much effort into learning it.
갈(다)(kar)(=to be dry)(Kyeongnam dialect of Korean=the Kara language)(transliterated into Japanese)-->karu(old Japanese). cf. kareru(present Japanese). 달(다)(tar)(=to hang)-->taru(O.J.). cf tareru(P. J.). 해(hae)(Korean)(=sun)(애(ae)-->에(e))-->he(O.J.)(에(e)-->이(이i))(Kyeongnam dialect's phonological rule)-->hi(P.J.). he(O.J.)(ㅎ(h)-->ㅋ(kh))-->khe(O.J). cf. 혀(다)(hyeo)(Middle Korean)(ㅎ(h)-->ㅋ(kh))--->켜(khyeo)(P.K.). If you don't know Old Japanese, Middle Korean, Kyeonnam dialect(=the Kara language), Kyeongbuk dialect(=the Silla language) and their phonological rules, you can't prove that the Japanese language originated from the Korean language. The Japanese langusge ueses the same phonological rules, case markers, words,etc of Kyeongnam dialect. If you want to know more, read the book, 일본어의 기원--일본어는 가야어다(2012)(The Origin of the Japanese language---the Japanese language is the Kaya(=Kara) language. The book proved that the Jananese language originated from the Kara language by using the Kara language's phonological rules.
If you are Japanese or Korean you might find some words from Proto-Japonic and Proto-Korean unrecognisable. That's mostly because of the Chinese influence and I'd say it isn't surprising at all.
Even though we are using different languages, living in different locations, however we're still same as human being and sharing the world.
@@Anwwoo Yes and it is the most important thing. To understand that on the other side on the world humans are still humans and make no difference with your people.
The words for mouth and four are almost same in Altaic languages too (except for Japonic/Koreanic)
I don’t think that Japonic or Koreanic are part of Altaic languages, Japano-Koreanic is likely its own branch.
Korean and Japanese are clearly a branch of the Altaic language and together are the Transeurasian language!!
전 세계의 알타이어족 형제들인 튀르키예🇹🇷, 몽골🇲🇳, 카자흐스탄🇰🇿, 한국🇰🇷, 일본🇯🇵, 중앙아시아 국가들, 시베리아 형제들은 위대하다!👍👍
전 세계 알타이어족 형제들을 위하여!!
우리 모두 뭉쳐서 중공과 러제의 제국주의를 타파합시다!!
finally a wonderful contribution geographically about the altaic transeurasian languages!!
Most of these words are hypothetical or speculative and do not exist in the Turkic language, and the rest of the words we find in most Eurasian languages as well,
and These languages failed to pass the Swadesh list.
For example:
1-The word "sound" in Turkic is (Ses), not kü(b).
2-The word "nose" in Turkic is "burun" and is similar to the Welsh word "ffroen".
3-The word "neck" in Turkic is not the word "bakan", but rather the word:
"Boyun" or "Muyın"
It is similar to
Old Irish : muin
Welsh : mŵn.
4-The word "big" in Turkic is (Bedük) not "eg- id-".
5-The word "river" in Turkic is (Irmak) not "ugur".
6-The word "bad" in Turkic is
"Çür -ük" not "jak"
The word "Çür -ük" in Turkic is similar to the Armenian word "char" meaning "bad",
and The Basque word "char" means bad.
7-The word "hair" (kıl) in Turkic found in Other language:
Welsh: (gwallt).
Bengali: (cula)
Gujarati: (Vāḷa).
8-the word "door"in Turkic is (Kapı) not "eb".
9-The word "eye" in Turkic is "Kör" not "jal".
10-The Turkic word "five" (bel) is not similar to the Mongolian words "ta -bu", Tungusian "ta -nga", Korean "ta" and Japanese "itu".
11-The word "ear,"or "hear" (Kulak) is present in most Eurasian languages, for example, we find it in Welsh: "cluas"
Old Celtic : Kloustā
12-(-ma)negation
It is found in most Eurasian languages, including Assyrian and Arabic.
13- The word "song" (Yır) in Turkic, is found in the Sumerian : "ir", in the Yenisian : "ir" , in Armenian: "yerg".
in Kurdish: "cur", etc.,
is not exclusive to these languages,
14-The Altaic language family does not exist, but it is a doctrine that some cling to for unscientific purposes.
偉大なる、亜細亜、欧州のアルタイ語族の同胞である🇲🇳🇰🇿🇹🇷🇰🇷🇰🇬🇺🇿🇹🇲🇹🇯🇭🇺🇯🇵の国々の繁栄を心より願い申し上げます、🇯🇵から
Tajiks are Iranic
I love to hear altaic languages very much....i love turkanish mongolic korean and japanese....
Doerfer examined Mongol and Manchu-Tungus commonalities in comparison with Turkic. He found 609 words in M-T languages that were common with Mongolian, 177 of which are also shared with Turkic.
These languages failed to pass the Swadesh list.
@@Tokyo2905 Which is just a list made by a human. It's not a rule carved into stone.
2:33 Sekkir/Sakkar in Proto-Turkic
This theory is now proven. Transeurasic family. Its true!
What are you talking about?
Transeurasian is still in hypothesis phase
I think tungusic, Mongolic and Turkic should be a same branch which is Altaic transeurasian family , while Korean and Japanese should be a mixture of Altaic and other languages branch
No Turkic should be their own while Tungus and Mongolian be same branch as many languages that in between the two came out such as khitan
@bokoono
Transeurasic family is proven . 2024 . Turcik is not there own. They eastasien!
@@ChristopherTanne-se3pz they used to be in the past
but now they are not
Yay you're back! I thought something happened to you since you're in Russia 😅
Edit: by da wae, this is a great vid! Keep it up 👍
Thanks! :3
Aka in japanese is red あか not white or light.
More videos please
Mongol-Tungus
Brothers of same blood ❤
Cool
Maybe they have no same origin,but definitely they influanced each other.
The question here is whether the Yamato are Austronesian or Altaic? Does the imperial family look like Austronesia?? or North Asian Yayoi type?
@@33y852
i heard that some southern japanese islands (not in main japanese archipelago) were presumed to had interacted with some austronesians
@@33y852 They are quite probably Yayoi(Altaic) and a bit of Jomon(Austronesian) mixed.
There is way too much similarity, especially in grammar, syntax and phonetics to be just "influence".
İ proud to be as and proud off asian brothers without japan and koreans beacuse turks,japans and koreans are northern asians except chineses.
Chinese live rent-free in your head, Turkified Arab.
@@dako6141Didnt knew Arabs were living in Anatolia before Oghuz migrations
3:23 wth? proto altaic word for black is karu? that's really similar to the proto dravidian karuppu/kār, the word for black or somethin like it!
But it doesn't mean that they are related in any way. The Altaic family isn't proved by itself
@@kutwor5506 yea, that's why I don't believe in da theory
Based Qara😎
Colours used to designate directions in Turkic society too
the turkish word kara and the japanese word Karu, Kuro are clearly related believe it or not!!you can continue to present your dravidian theory to everyone like a linguist!!!
@@kutwor5506 I admire your work but I will say I am from Germany and the Max Plank Institute data is very reliable on the Transeurasian languages!!
In some places, Mongolian became more Japanese than Japanese。
😊
👏👏👏👏
I can kinda see it
th-cam.com/video/3dzlhgRS5kM/w-d-xo.html
Kawaii in japanese is cute not voice or sound wtf bro💀
kewai is sound in proto-japonic
Transeurasic language family is niw proven.2024 these language have all the same roots
If it is proven then give me links to the research you've taken this idea from, tell me name of the author of the research and all the other stuff. Ah, yeah... There is no such research.
@@kutwor5506 Google marti robbeets. Thats transeurasic. And If you want a goddy can you read the new Research about saka issyk inscription. Now proven iranic 2023 😋
Most of these words are hypothetical or speculative and do not exist in the Turkic language, and the rest of the words we find in most Eurasian languages as well,
and These languages failed to pass the Swadesh list.
For example:
1-The word "sound" in Turkic is (Ses), not kü(b).
2-The word "nose" in Turkic is "burun" and is similar to the Welsh word "ffroen".
3-The word "neck" in Turkic is not the word "bakan", but rather the word:
"Boyun" or "Muyın"
It is similar to
Old Irish : muin
Welsh : mŵn.
4-The word "big" in Turkic is (Bedük) not "eg- id-".
5-The word "river" in Turkic is (Irmak) not "ugur".
6-The word "bad" in Turkic is
"Çür -ük" not "jak"
The word "Çür -ük" in Turkic is similar to the Armenian word "char" meaning "bad",
and The Basque word "char" means bad.
7-The word "hair" (kıl) in Turkic found in Other language:
Welsh: (gwallt).
Bengali: (cula)
Gujarati: (Vāḷa).
8-the word "door"in Turkic is (Kapı) not "eb".
9-The word "eye" in Turkic is "Kör" not "jal".
10-The Turkic word "five" (bel) is not similar to the Mongolian words "ta -bu", Tungusian "ta -nga", Korean "ta" and Japanese "itu".
11-The word "ear,"or "hear" (Kulak) is present in most Eurasian languages, for example, we find it in Welsh: "cluas"
Old Celtic : Kloustā
12-(-ma)negation
It is found in most Eurasian languages, including Assyrian and Arabic.
13- The word "song" (Yır) in Turkic, is found in the Sumerian : "ir", in the Yenisian : "ir" , in Armenian: "yerg".
in Kurdish: "cur", etc.,
is not exclusive to these languages,
14-The Altaic language family does not exist, but it is a doctrine that some cling to for unscientific purposes.
bro, you should first have learned Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, and several Turkic languages in order to write something like this, you simply lied about half the words, saying that there are no such words in Turkic and were simply invented🤡 the word jek or jak (bad) is in Kazakh and in the Kyrgyz language, means "hatred". There is also the word "küb", and the word ses - in Turkish it is a borrowing from Persian. And the word “bakan” is also in proto-Turkic, as a result of which it became “moyun/boyun”. The word "ugur" is in Kazakh and in Kyrgyz "Ozhor" - a small river. The word çür-ük is possibly from the Turkic çirik - pus, and in Armenian it is a borrowing from Turkish. The word "eb" - door is in the Kazakh and Kyrgyz languages, it became in "eshik" - EB - ESH". Kapı - from the proto-Turkic Bag, Covering. The negation suffix -ma - this is typical for agglutive languages, Arabic languages are inflectional and maybe this borrowing, -ma - in the Kipchak dialect was transformed into -ba. The word yr - song in Armenian is a borrowing from Turkic, the Sumerian word may be an invention of the author, or a coincidence, but I did not find such information that there is such a word. And what we have is that you write something you don’t know, and as always, those who oppose the Altai family are ignoramuses who don’t even know a single language from the Altai theory. But if you knew, you would translate the old words from. proto-Turkic and from proto-Mongolian, Japanese, Korean, Tungus-Manchu, you would find a lot of similarities, even now in Japanese there are many words similar to Turkic, Mongolian and Korean and this cannot be a borrowing, the Turks never had contact with the Japanese in the 1st century and before, only with the beginning of the Mongol Empire, the Mongols and Turks began to contact them, but the proto-Japanese language died out when the Mongols and Turks contacted them. So don't misinform people.
What about several Indo-European languages, where similar words were found, this is also disinformation, I did not find a single such word, in the listed languages, I looked at everything, the word Neck in Welsh and in others are completely different words, like Hair. If there was, then this is a later borrowing from the Hunnic language, the languages of India were also in contact with Turkic languages, in particular Chagatai, their rulers spoke and wrote, like the army, in Chagatai, which is related to Turkic, even one of their languages has a Turkic name " Urdu" from the Turkic word "Horde" - Army. Either these words were invented by the author himself, or coincidences. Proto-Indo-European has completely different words.
@@aruuito I don't understand why this persian guy is so ardent opponent of altaic theory. Why are they here. He and his beloved soulmates are under every altaic related videos. Don't they have a personal life or smth. Why I don't see koreans or japanese or mongolians themselves who disagreeing with this hypothesis? And what's interesting they don't speak either turkic languages, neither mongolian or japanese to understand what we say. I would call it intuitional understanding of a language. It didn't happened when I learned russian and english and portuguese, but it happened when I learnt japanese being a kirgyz myself. Japanese seems intuitively easy when you don't put that much effort into learning it.
@@Eve_Lynne_Heart agreed
The video is not correct but all these languages are from the same root
Long Live MON 🇲🇳KOR 🇰🇷JPN🇯🇵
音の似てる単語を無理やり並べてるな
akaに白なんて意味はない。赤は赤、redだ。
but it's all just a theory, A FILM THEORY! AAAND CUT!
😂
Makes too much sense to exist
:):):)--------
갈(다)(kar)(=to be dry)(Kyeongnam dialect of Korean=the Kara language)(transliterated into Japanese)-->karu(old Japanese). cf. kareru(present Japanese). 달(다)(tar)(=to hang)-->taru(O.J.). cf
tareru(P. J.). 해(hae)(Korean)(=sun)(애(ae)-->에(e))-->he(O.J.)(에(e)-->이(이i))(Kyeongnam dialect's phonological rule)-->hi(P.J.). he(O.J.)(ㅎ(h)-->ㅋ(kh))-->khe(O.J). cf. 혀(다)(hyeo)(Middle Korean)(ㅎ(h)-->ㅋ(kh))--->켜(khyeo)(P.K.). If you don't know Old Japanese, Middle Korean, Kyeonnam dialect(=the Kara language), Kyeongbuk dialect(=the Silla language) and their phonological rules, you can't prove that the Japanese language originated from the Korean language. The Japanese langusge ueses the same phonological rules, case markers, words,etc of Kyeongnam dialect. If you want to know more, read the book, 일본어의 기원--일본어는 가야어다(2012)(The Origin of the Japanese language---the Japanese language is the Kaya(=Kara) language. The book proved that the Jananese language originated from the Kara language by using the Kara language's phonological rules.
Fantastic
Was this book transleted to Spanish or English?
in Turkic "kurgoo" - "kuruu" to be dry. also “tartuu” - to push.
Isn't it possible that Gyeongnam was influenced by Peninsular-Japonic? Considering the locations.