I have been self-educating for years on solar energy through resources on the Internet, but I can attest to the fact that your channel is by far the most valuable channel on renewable energy that I have come across. I can't wait to register for your course very soon. Thank you so much.
Worth noting that a lot of DC MCBs have magnetic arc suppression where a magnet directs the arc into the suppression chamber. These breakers have + and - indicated on the terminals and the polarity should match the source of fault current.
There are still many polarised breakers around with magnets to move the spark into the extinguishing champer. If they are connected with wrong polarisation they catch on fire. The flow of current must be correct from + to -. If the source comes from bellow into double breakers, the + must be connected to the side where a - symbol is printed on top of the breaker shematic.
I appreciate this great illustration. My confusion occurs with (NEC-type) Safety Regs for DC circuits. Circuit Breakers have the arc extinguishing chambers, as I understand, while I have read that Isolator (rotary) Switches do Not. Yet, NEC codes require Isolator Switches for DC arrays. So … for a Small (2 panel) system, is it Best practice to have Fuses between panel & MPPT, plus Isolator, plus Breaker … or which combination thereof, or only one …. ? I have also read that as long as the current specs of my panel is BELOW my MPPT, I really don’t need (any) ….. now it should seem Clear how easily one can become Confused …. 🤷🏻♂️
could you explain what would the problem be if you used an AC breaker in a DC circuit which would work for around 3-4 minutes and then not work have the wires short-circuited?
Good video. Do you also have videos that explains the difference between Polarized and Non-Polarized DC circuit breaker and why the polarized circuit breaker will catch on fire if polarity is not observed?
Hi - the video on explanation of how the DC and AC MB'Cs function is great - however - the speaker does "NOT" mention the consequences of arcing - the breaker, be it small in size or larger ACB's - one cannot operate the breaker beyond the contact rating as a result of ongoing tripping. If a any breaker has exceeded the contact capability, the breaker under fault conditions will explode - he does not mention this - very confusing as opening/closing/opening etc. under specific fault levels will cause the MCB/ACB to explode. This is where a "ductor" test should be conducted - this checks the condition of the contacts. The breaker would inevitably fail after several trips - this is a short comment to a much longer discussion. Thank you. Richard Murphy (Pr Eng)
My all in one inverter wants a 2 pole 200 amp breaker going to the battery bank, and a 2 pole 16 amp breaker going to the solar panels. Why can't I find these anywhere online or in-person? Does it go by a different name? I would even pay just to find out where to buy them!
Hi, I am new to solar DIY, and I have a question... I understand some DC breaker are direction sensitive (eg. if top side is source then bottom is load or vice versa)... my question is when I try to connect my hybrid inverter to the battery, which side is source and which is load.?? Because if the solar charging is active then my Inverter is the source and my battery is load, and if the inverter is active then my battery is the source and my inverter is load.. Thanks...
Look into the datasheets of normal MCBs like from ABB and Schneider etc. Most are rated for DC too, but only up to ~50 or 60Vdc I'd rather trust an ABB breaker on my 48V battery bank than some of those rebranded cheapo chinese breakers
Hi, i have a 3500w 24v inverter with 2 batteries ( 200amp each) my dc breaker is SPV-125 C80 (500v) and 6000 A i need to add 4 extra batteries of 200 amp each so the total is 6 , do i need to change my breaker to a bigger one or not? Thank you in advance.
You are hilarious. And I truly enjoy the videos were you "geek-out" a bit more and if some want to by-pass that you give the timestamp to jump to. Perfect!
That is nice to hear Alain, thank you for your message. Your feedback actually stimulates me to share more "geeked-out" videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
Great vid, good info & content, thanks for this tutorial. Another commenter asked about what type of breaker switch is best advised between an All In One system and the battery, as either side becomes a source between charging and discharging events. I have 48v & 24v AIO systems I am implementing for different projects, (bus, shed, house), so this should be a dual pole 150A-250A ‘NO ARK’ type DC switch I am guessing for 10kw-15kw lifepo4 battery bank, does this sound about right? Cheers
Hello Mohit, thank you for your message. I am sorry, but I do not fully understand your question. Would you mind to rephrase your question? I will paste the link to the online course at the end of this message. Thanks, Jesse. www.udemy.com/course/off-grid-energy-systems/?referralCode=69B445EA7778A72D23F3
Very Good & Thank you ! I’m a DIYer attempting to design and implicate Battery Back up for if and when the grid goes down which it does every few years where I live . My breaker box is a normal 1 - 120v @ 100A 20 or so Circuit breakers & I’ve only got 1 - 220v Circuit my central AC what shift the grid goes down we’re not using central AC we could use fans That’s not the point my Inverta is a 5 kVA 230v charge controller 48v my battery banks are 15 pease 3.2v 280Ah lithium phosphate Daily 15s 120A BMS & 20 peace 2.3v 40Ah ithium titanate batteries ANT 20s 100A BMS “ my Inverta 230 V would like to used to hotline which is 115 V the neutral line is 115 V all still single phase can I put on a 230 V single into a double pole breaker both the L one hotline 115 V and the neutral which is 115 V to make my breaker box single phase at 115 V for a battery back up if the grid goes down and I have the solar inverter that can slowly charge by Lithia batteries very slowly ! So what I want to do run both powerlines to a double pole breaker both the hotline in the neutral because each are 115 V in the ground would be to an earth ground but then what would I use for a neutral if I’m using the neutral as a hotline but then what do you use when you use in a 230 V for a neutral because there is no neutral you just have two hotlines & a ground ? I would greatly appreciate in your convenience if you could just jot down your ideas and your wisdom !
I believe the circuit breaker is shown upside down. If you turn it around so the arc extinguisher is at top it makes more sense. The hot arc travels up (hot air) and such the extinguisher does its job. Having it on the bottom completely negates its presence.
Continuesly told solar customers not to use the DC breaker to turn off array under load - emergency only. Use AC only. I really want to try arc welding from my 10kW battery bank.. Shhh
He doesn't even mention permanent magnets built into DC circuit breakers. He talks about 2 major strategies: larger contact distance and biefier arc distinguishing chamber. But he doesnt mention a permanent magnet, which implies, that a DC CB has a polarity! Thumbs down, sorry.
Thanks ! I learned more about breakers in five minutes than I have known in 70 years. I did subscribe instantly.
That is great to hear Tom! Thanks for your message and welcome to the channel :)
I have been self-educating for years on solar energy through resources on the Internet, but I can attest to the fact that your channel is by far the most valuable channel on renewable energy that I have come across. I can't wait to register for your course very soon. Thank you so much.
Wow, thank you!
Nice, that was really easy to understand. That arc chamber is really cool.
One Of The Best Technical Clarification Videos I have come across !! Great Clarity Clear Explanation !! Many Thanks and Best Wishes !!
Glad it was helpful!
Another great Vlog, I love the way you teach this so clearly and with good picture demonstrations. Thank you for do these Vlogs
Thank you for your message Motorhomer: It is great to hear that you appreciate the videos. More are on the way! All the best, Jesse.
Worth noting that a lot of DC MCBs have magnetic arc suppression where a magnet directs the arc into the suppression chamber. These breakers have + and - indicated on the terminals and the polarity should match the source of fault current.
An excellent addition to the video, thank you Andy!
Indeed, your teaching ability and patience in your explanations makes you a superb guide, thank you
Wow, thank you for the compliment Edward. It's good to hear you enjoyed the video!
Very good clear video, thanks.
You are welcome!
Can you also discuss isolators catching on fire and some countries not using them anymore and what would be a good substitution?
An excellent video topic, thank you Peter! I will share this video soon.
There are still many polarised breakers around with magnets to move the spark into the extinguishing champer. If they are connected with wrong polarisation they catch on fire. The flow of current must be correct from + to -. If the source comes from bellow into double breakers, the + must be connected to the side where a - symbol is printed on top of the breaker shematic.
Thank you for your valuable contribution!
Very clean explanation.
I appreciate this great illustration. My confusion occurs with (NEC-type) Safety Regs for DC circuits. Circuit Breakers have the arc extinguishing chambers, as I understand, while I have read that Isolator (rotary) Switches do Not. Yet, NEC codes require Isolator Switches for DC arrays.
So … for a Small (2 panel) system, is it Best practice to have Fuses between panel & MPPT, plus Isolator, plus Breaker … or which combination thereof, or only one …. ?
I have also read that as long as the current specs of my panel is BELOW my MPPT, I really don’t need (any) ….. now it should seem Clear how easily one can become Confused …. 🤷🏻♂️
Jesse's second half keeps him in step. 😁
could you explain what would the problem be if you used an AC breaker in a DC circuit which would work for around 3-4 minutes and then not work
have the wires short-circuited?
Good question! I think the following video on DC breakers will give you the answers you are looking for: th-cam.com/video/d0r9tOP69KM/w-d-xo.html
i watched the video and it did not answer my queries
I just want to know if the circuit would get damaged or not
Good video. Do you also have videos that explains the difference between Polarized and Non-Polarized DC circuit breaker and why the polarized circuit breaker will catch on fire if polarity is not observed?
Hi, is this dc circuit breaker enough to protect Lifepo4 batteries or should it be combined with fuses?
Hi - the video on explanation of how the DC and AC MB'Cs function is great - however - the speaker does "NOT" mention the consequences of arcing - the breaker, be it small in size or larger ACB's - one cannot operate the breaker beyond the contact rating as a result of ongoing tripping. If a any breaker has exceeded the contact capability, the breaker under fault conditions will explode - he does not mention this - very confusing as opening/closing/opening etc. under specific fault levels will cause the MCB/ACB to explode. This is where a "ductor" test should be conducted - this checks the condition of the contacts. The breaker would inevitably fail after several trips - this is a short comment to a much longer discussion. Thank you. Richard Murphy (Pr Eng)
Thank you for your contributation Richard!
My all in one inverter wants a 2 pole 200 amp breaker going to the battery bank, and a 2 pole 16 amp breaker going to the solar panels.
Why can't I find these anywhere online or in-person?
Does it go by a different name?
I would even pay just to find out where to buy them!
Thank you very much for detailed overview! Very nice video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for a very good and informative video.
You are welcome!
as usual simply and most clearly explained..well done..keep on this great spirit
It is good to hear you enjoyed this video as well, thank you for your message Easyji. All the best, Jesse.
Would you please tell us about connecting the DC circuit breaker according to their polarity . I mean + and - signs that are written on it..
Thank you
Thank you! Very well explained.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi,
I am new to solar DIY, and I have a question... I understand some DC breaker are direction sensitive (eg. if top side is source then bottom is load or vice versa)... my question is when I try to connect my hybrid inverter to the battery, which side is source and which is load.?? Because if the solar charging is active then my Inverter is the source and my battery is load, and if the inverter is active then my battery is the source and my inverter is load..
Thanks...
Good question, did you get an answer, eventually? Like to here what the best solution is here as I am amid wiring a similar setup. Cheers
Liked and subscribed. Thank you.
Welcome aboard!
can i use dc breaker instead ac breaker?
Great video, pretty reasonable and logical, i am in love with ur teaching.
Wow, thank you!
Amazing explanation and easy to understand. Again, Thank you for sharing your expertise!
You're very welcome Tracy!
Thank you sir, very thru n thru explanation
Glad it helped!
Good video. God bless you
Thank you! You too!
I like magnetic Breakers because there's no time delay they simply trip based on the amount of magnetic flux in the breaker mechanism.
Look into the datasheets of normal MCBs like from ABB and Schneider etc. Most are rated for DC too, but only up to ~50 or 60Vdc
I'd rather trust an ABB breaker on my 48V battery bank than some of those rebranded cheapo chinese breakers
Excellent feedback and a valuable addition to the video, thank you!
Great video, thank you.
You are welcome!
Hi, i have a 3500w 24v inverter with 2 batteries ( 200amp each) my dc breaker is SPV-125 C80 (500v) and 6000 A i need to add 4 extra batteries of 200 amp each so the total is 6 , do i need to change my breaker to a bigger one or not? Thank you in advance.
You are hilarious. And I truly enjoy the videos were you "geek-out" a bit more and if some want to by-pass that you give the timestamp to jump to. Perfect!
That is nice to hear Alain, thank you for your message. Your feedback actually stimulates me to share more "geeked-out" videos. Thank you for the inspiration!
Great vid, good info & content, thanks for this tutorial. Another commenter asked about what type of breaker switch is best advised between an All In One system and the battery, as either side becomes a source between charging and discharging events. I have 48v & 24v AIO systems I am implementing for different projects, (bus, shed, house), so this should be a dual pole 150A-250A ‘NO ARK’ type DC switch I am guessing for 10kw-15kw lifepo4 battery bank, does this sound about right? Cheers
What a useful, clear and excellent video! Thanks!
Thank you for your message Boaz, it is great to hear that you enjoyed the video. All the best, Jesse.
thanks for posting this ❤️
My pleasure!!
Great stuff, loved watching, thank you
Glad to hear it!
Thanx Doc, I learn a lot from your utuber vids!
That is great to hear Col Jr! Thank you for your message, I appreciate it. Jesse
Hello sir can you provide any report file on your off grid solar energy online course
Hello Mohit, thank you for your message. I am sorry, but I do not fully understand your question. Would you mind to rephrase your question? I will paste the link to the online course at the end of this message. Thanks, Jesse.
www.udemy.com/course/off-grid-energy-systems/?referralCode=69B445EA7778A72D23F3
Very Good & Thank you ! I’m a DIYer attempting to design and implicate Battery Back up for if and when the grid goes down which it does every few years where I live . My breaker box is a normal 1 - 120v @ 100A 20 or so Circuit breakers & I’ve only got 1 - 220v Circuit my central AC what shift the grid goes down we’re not using central AC we could use fans That’s not the point my Inverta is a 5 kVA 230v charge controller 48v my battery banks are 15 pease 3.2v 280Ah lithium phosphate Daily 15s 120A BMS & 20 peace 2.3v 40Ah ithium titanate batteries ANT 20s 100A BMS “ my Inverta 230 V would like to used to hotline which is 115 V the neutral line is 115 V all still single phase can I put on a 230 V single into a double pole breaker both the L one hotline 115 V and the neutral which is 115 V to make my breaker box single phase at 115 V for a battery back up if the grid goes down and I have the solar inverter that can slowly charge by Lithia batteries very slowly ! So what I want to do run both powerlines to a double pole breaker both the hotline in the neutral because each are 115 V in the ground would be to an earth ground but then what would I use for a neutral if I’m using the neutral as a hotline but then what do you use when you use in a 230 V for a neutral because there is no neutral you just have two hotlines & a ground ? I would greatly appreciate in your convenience if you could just jot down your ideas and your wisdom !
Superb information 👍
Thank you for your message, that is good to hear. All the best, Jesse.
I love having the ex Governator teach me about electronics
Hope you'll be back
Haha get to the choppa!
@@SolarSolution That's the one 😁
Cool accent, great info
Thank you,you are the best !!!
Thank you Karat, I am glad to hear you enjoyed the video. All the best, Jesse.
I rly thank you
You helped me to understand the difference between ac&dc c. b
Is there a way to know if a DC breaker is polarized ? Some have a + and - symbol but there is confusion if a breaker is polarized or not
If the polarity is marked then they are polarised. Otherwise they are non-polarised
Which is the next video?
Great video thanks very much. 🇬🇧
You are welcome John, thank you for your message. Jesse
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Are there DC relays? for,say 120 VDC ?
Yes.
lekker handig!!
6a 230v fuse blows about 14a 12v
Nice background ;)
Nice.
Thanks!
I believe the circuit breaker is shown upside down. If you turn it around so the arc extinguisher is at top it makes more sense. The hot arc travels up (hot air) and such the extinguisher does its job. Having it on the bottom completely negates its presence.
Love it
Thanks Rick!
Magnets are also used in dc circuit breakers to circumvent the arc 👍🏽
Great point!
@@SolarSolution 😉
thankyou.
You're welcome Stevie
Continuesly told solar customers not to use the DC breaker to turn off array under load - emergency only. Use AC only.
I really want to try arc welding from my 10kW battery bank.. Shhh
they use only 2 fase and the nuetral and ground is the same thing. that is danger.
👌🇦🇺
Thank Alan! Jesse
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Yu explained well, i think arc is lengthen in dc cb , to reach quickly to arcing chutes
electric system in the united state is the worse system that I ever saw in my live
He doesn't even mention permanent magnets built into DC circuit breakers. He talks about 2 major strategies: larger contact distance and biefier arc distinguishing chamber. But he doesnt mention a permanent magnet, which implies, that a DC CB has a polarity! Thumbs down, sorry.
No worries, but thanks for your message. It sounds like you are already well-educated in the topic! All the best, Jesse.