Nice to see a good antenna for one. This one in particular seems to blend the border between the consumer and professional antennas somewhat. I like how the white casing of the feed looks like they just got a PVC fitting from the hardware store. I dind't expect to see an element like on the Kathrein antennas, I think this is the first time I saw one of those on a somewhat cheap antenna. I would be very interested in a small series where you try out the effect of the holes in such an element. Maybe make one without holes from brass and then drill some round holes and measure again. This implementation of the element kind of has a dual bowtie antenna look to it. (of course it isn't one but it kind of looks like one) Greetings, Michael
Thank you so much sir 🙏 Finally the secret has been revealed for the first time on TH-cam of this kind of antenna feed by Sir Andrew 😍😍 Lot's of love enjoyed the vedio 😍
I really appreciate your tear-down and bench test of every antenna! So glad you aren't afraid to feature MIMO LTE. I do wish in a separate video you would connect several to a tower and compare signal quality. The signal to noise ratio is just as important as gain for a good download transmission speed. I find patch panel antennas to be too noisy in a city environment.
Great video Andrew. This style of antenna has always interested me, especially when you talk about how important it is to have the dielectric to keep it from shorting competely. I would be very interested to see some videos talking about the theory behind how antennas really work and why/when an antenna can be shorted. Although I'm not sure if you're average viewer would care to drive that deep. Either way, hope you're doing well.
It has always been a balancing act with this channel not going to deep into the theory. I want to make theory videos on some of the different antenna families though. Some of them also have very interesting history behind them with regards to their discovery. But I don’t think they would be big on views but there again I don’t really make videos with views in mind. 😁
@@andrewmcneil would be nice to understand mimo theory on the two 9dB 5G router antennas you built and broadcasted last week. This is a great video. Very interesting.
i would love a teradown and an analisys of the more broad band version. there's any chance to get the kathrein antenna dimensions? newly discovered channel and im already loving the contents
Thanks for the effort on putting this video, these antennas recently had an update, wonder if you could do something similar with the new version, it´ll be amazing
I have those kathrein antenna in hand, was about to purchase this. glad you tear it doen. since the inside is the same as kathrein. I can design my own antenna with the one I have now. the only option for the reflector for me is cooking wok and an offset dish parabola since they are cheapee than proper antenna dish. the second reflector is interesting find.
Hi sir, I wanna ask what happens if I tilt 45° of tht antenna using parabolic grid? Is it performance will drop or greater because I once watched someone explained to tilt 45° of dual polarization feedhorn for better reception. Please reply sir I wanna know bout it
Thanks for the great video , I actually bought this antenna the 5g version looks exactly like yours hopefully not a bad quality clone , I have an old 185cm dish yup it’s huge like brand new , it has the lnb holder on it so I assume I could fit it into the lnb holder and having the mount go towards the dish or how would u recommend I attach it to the dishes lnb ? Ideally I’d like to remove the long metal bar that holds the element and attach it to the lnb ? Should be interesting to measure my rsrq and sinr and rsrp for n78 , or band 1 2100mhz or band3 1800mhz
Buddy, you are pointing the feedhorn in the wrong direction when testing. Adding holes in element could just be to increase 3dimensional surface area to excite the element with passing radio waves. This might work as replacement for my old 2.4hgz 24dbi parabolic dish to update to 5ghz
Given most 5G n78 (3.3-3.8GHz) still run as NSA (non-standalone) and require a LTE anchor band to function it is good to see a mid band response. Wonder how that translates to mid band gain
Hello, I really like your videos! I'm new to Antennas and am setting up a Mobile WiFi internet, and an antenna array for WiFi access for our community. Can you tell me from where do you get the parabolic dishes? Are these standard from some use? Can they be purchase used or from surplus? How are the folding mesh type parabolic dishes one can get from eBay for $50? Thank you!
thanks to your video i am not thinking about building this :) found the feeder on aliexpress, also a newer 45 degree angled version but i have no clue how to think about the dish. TV dishes are actually very accessible on used market, won't that just eqally do than a new grid dish?
did you ever find out? Completely uneducated guess. But I would probably muck about with a biquad or beam gun collector on an old TV dish. Since I know an old tv dish isnt a good dish design for talking to satellites. And Im more sure a biquad or beam gun something something arm mounted LNB
Thank you for the video, it's very helpful for my place, if anyone is confused about making a reflector, you can use an old fryer and it's cheap and works ❤❤❤ And why you not make video again
Hi Andrew, I'm a bit confused about the second parabolic reflector. The signal from the main parabolic reflector arrives from different angles (like a cone). So the shape of the second parabolic reflector must be different than the main parabolic reflector or the distance between the reflector and the element must be different. Is that right? Thanks for your explanation and I look forward to your next video.
Thank you very much ! I was waiting for this kind of tear down for long time . Finally i could see whats inside . Maybe can we make biquad element this way ?? When i put a secondary parabolic reflector i should find a parabolic reflector with 1/8 λ focal point length ?? Thank you again
Nice antenna. The cellular ones we pronounce "cat-reine" as in the river. Some say kath- rather than cat-. Anyways one good reason for the 5g only is using the high gain narrow beamwidth design would be to ensure coverage from a 5g site with a unlimited data plan, for a broadband router. Although I agree makes sense at mo to have a 4g5g one at least 1.8gig lte band1,3 too.
Respected sir, It a great video yet again. I fall in that category which you discribed at the end where 5g is years away and we want broad frequency range 4g 3g antenna. Dishes are dirt cheap here ...can you please recommend any decent antenna in that 70 pound range with a feed and dish setup (price without dish)
Nice to see a good antenna for one.
This one in particular seems to blend the border between the consumer and professional antennas somewhat.
I like how the white casing of the feed looks like they just got a PVC fitting from the hardware store.
I dind't expect to see an element like on the Kathrein antennas, I think this is the first time I saw one of those on a somewhat cheap antenna.
I would be very interested in a small series where you try out the effect of the holes in such an element.
Maybe make one without holes from brass and then drill some round holes and measure again.
This implementation of the element kind of has a dual bowtie antenna look to it.
(of course it isn't one but it kind of looks like one)
Greetings,
Michael
Thank you so much sir 🙏 Finally the secret has been revealed for the first time on TH-cam of this kind of antenna feed by Sir Andrew 😍😍 Lot's of love enjoyed the vedio 😍
You are most welcome Dev I knew you were waiting for this one.
I really appreciate your tear-down and bench test of every antenna! So glad you aren't afraid to feature MIMO LTE. I do wish in a separate video you would connect several to a tower and compare signal quality. The signal to noise ratio is just as important as gain for a good download transmission speed. I find patch panel antennas to be too noisy in a city environment.
Sort of thing I do...
I am working on something to do just that
Great video Andrew. This style of antenna has always interested me, especially when you talk about how important it is to have the dielectric to keep it from shorting competely. I would be very interested to see some videos talking about the theory behind how antennas really work and why/when an antenna can be shorted. Although I'm not sure if you're average viewer would care to drive that deep. Either way, hope you're doing well.
It has always been a balancing act with this channel not going to deep into the theory. I want to make theory videos on some of the different antenna families though. Some of them also have very interesting history behind them with regards to their discovery. But I don’t think they would be big on views but there again I don’t really make videos with views in mind. 😁
@@andrewmcneil would be nice to understand mimo theory on the two 9dB 5G router antennas you built and broadcasted last week. This is a great video. Very interesting.
Thank for brief explanation of this antenna. I'm using it but earlier version (V1). I get a lot of improvement by using this feedhorn.
Hye sir... Did you know the version of tht feedhorn in this video?
Thanks Andrew,i eagerly waiting for this video since you tease the pic in the group.
i would love a teradown and an analisys of the more broad band version. there's any chance to get the kathrein antenna dimensions? newly discovered channel and im already loving the contents
Amazing how much difference a dish makes.
het Andrew thanks for the video, what antenna do you recommend? I'm looking for my modem, only focused on 3500mhz or n78 band ? thank you
My mast is in direct line of sight between 3000 to 4000 meters. What antenna would u recommend for network 3 UK on 5g thanks
Thanks for the effort on putting this video, these antennas recently had an update, wonder if you could do something similar with the new version, it´ll be amazing
I have those kathrein antenna in hand, was about to purchase this. glad you tear it doen. since the inside is the same as kathrein. I can design my own antenna with the one I have now. the only option for the reflector for me is cooking wok and an offset dish parabola since they are cheapee than proper antenna dish. the second reflector is interesting find.
Please, where did you by it from? Cannot find one with Kathrein module inside, most of them have PCB.
Aliexpress but the seller is no longer selling them
I have kathrein for grid, planning to give it front reflector. But how to measure distance of front reflector to main element(kathrein)?
interesting.. so, those lower freq 1.8 - 2.1 would fall in for band 2 and 4 ?
band 3 and band 1 here
Hi sir, I wanna ask what happens if I tilt 45° of tht antenna using parabolic grid? Is it performance will drop or greater because I once watched someone explained to tilt 45° of dual polarization feedhorn for better reception. Please reply sir I wanna know bout it
I don't know but I've always love dishes and loops. Very cool!
Thanks for watching!
Hi Andrew, where did you get the dish from? Thanks.
I wonder if the focal length of the dish is related to the wavelength to get a whole number of half wavelengths between the transmitter and the dish?
A parabolic dish is not frequency dependent but they do have different focal lengths but this has nothing to do with frequency.
Thanks for the great video , I actually bought this antenna the 5g version looks exactly like yours hopefully not a bad quality clone , I have an old 185cm dish yup it’s huge like brand new , it has the lnb holder on it so I assume I could fit it into the lnb holder and having the mount go towards the dish or how would u recommend I attach it to the dishes lnb ? Ideally I’d like to remove the long metal bar that holds the element and attach it to the lnb ? Should be interesting to measure my rsrq and sinr and rsrp for n78 , or band 1 2100mhz or band3 1800mhz
I don't want to be wrong but they are two crossed dipoles with cross polarized. What is the German company?
Buddy, you are pointing the feedhorn in the wrong direction when testing. Adding holes in element could just be to increase 3dimensional surface area to excite the element with passing radio waves. This might work as replacement for my old 2.4hgz 24dbi parabolic dish to update to 5ghz
Given most 5G n78 (3.3-3.8GHz) still run as NSA (non-standalone) and require a LTE anchor band to function it is good to see a mid band response. Wonder how that translates to mid band gain
You would probably find it works better at receiving in the mid band than transmitting
Hello, I really like your videos! I'm new to Antennas and am setting up a Mobile WiFi internet, and an antenna array for WiFi access for our community.
Can you tell me from where do you get the parabolic dishes? Are these standard from some use? Can they be purchase used or from surplus? How are the folding mesh type parabolic dishes one can get from eBay for $50? Thank you!
Support tower 🗼 8km or not?
thanks to your video i am not thinking about building this :) found the feeder on aliexpress, also a newer 45 degree angled version but i have no clue how to think about the dish. TV dishes are actually very accessible on used market, won't that just eqally do than a new grid dish?
did you ever find out? Completely uneducated guess. But I would probably muck about with a biquad or beam gun collector on an old TV dish. Since I know an old tv dish isnt a good dish design for talking to satellites. And Im more sure a biquad or beam gun something something arm mounted LNB
Thank you for the video, it's very helpful for my place, if anyone is confused about making a reflector, you can use an old fryer and it's cheap and works ❤❤❤
And why you not make video again
Thank you I was waiting this review
Thank you so much Andrew mcneil
Hi Andrew, I'm a bit confused about the second parabolic reflector. The signal from the main parabolic reflector arrives from different angles (like a cone). So the shape of the second parabolic reflector must be different than the main parabolic reflector or the distance between the reflector and the element must be different. Is that right? Thanks for your explanation and I look forward to your next video.
This one does not have a second parabolic reflector just a reflector. I said adding one would improve the gain.
How about a 915Mhz 24db Super Long Range Dish Feed Antenna???
thank you very much sir
Can you show a video on how to make microstrip
antennas for beginners
What is the connector name? Mine got broken and the first part is n female but the connector name I could not find
N type
Thank you very much !
I was waiting for this kind of tear down for long time . Finally i could see whats inside .
Maybe can we make biquad element this way ??
When i put a secondary parabolic reflector i should find a parabolic reflector with 1/8 λ focal point length ??
Thank you again
Yes you can!
Will it cook a 4kg Turkey in under 90 minutes though??? lolz 5G, grab your sunscreen!
😁😁😁😁
Nice antenna. The cellular ones we pronounce "cat-reine" as in the river. Some say kath- rather than cat-. Anyways one good reason for the 5g only is using the high gain narrow beamwidth design would be to ensure coverage from a 5g site with a unlimited data plan, for a broadband router. Although I agree makes sense at mo to have a 4g5g one at least 1.8gig lte band1,3 too.
hi sir..the material used is iron or steel can i try cooper
From malaysia❤️
lg bagus sebenarnya. antara copper atau brass. dua dua ada slight improvement berbanding metalsheet biasa.
Respected sir,
It a great video yet again. I fall in that category which you discribed at the end where 5g is years away and we want broad frequency range 4g 3g antenna. Dishes are dirt cheap here ...can you please recommend any decent antenna in that 70 pound range with a feed and dish setup (price without dish)
Thank you 🙏
Thx for sharing 😊
My pleasure 😊
thank you
Does it work on 4G ?
No
It should do as it shows band 1 and band 3 with a nice low swr ,
Does it work on 4G+?
Good job sir ...
Thanks
very nice design too , bet they expensive tho ?
This one is around £45 but the dish costs more