@@JohnDoe-si4eg from what I remember, Kakashi used it 4x. Kakashi was exhausted. Gojo doesn’t run out of energy or stamina. I think it’s a case of Kakashi being technically stronger & physically faster, but he won’t win.
Bro out here telling me my videos are helping his anxiety is CRAZY humbling I really appreciate that bro 🙏🏻 made my night with such a wholesome comment. I’m glad I could help someone going through tuff stuff ✊🏻 comments like this keep me going
The argument is if it could get through the limitless and news flash….. after a domain you cant use your ct so Gojo didn’t have limitless activated. Don’t be disingenuous
Nah cus genjutsus control the other person Chakra or CE for this so it wouldn't need to bypass infinity because he could just used the Chakra/CE that's already there/ the CE making then infinity barrier@@CertainlyCynical
13:42 Sooooo, what about the sealing pot? Or just sealing techniques in general? There's a real possibility the war arc characters might assume they are Edos after they regenerate, but even if they didn't, treating them like Edos would be the move. Also, I haven't heard you talk about the Intel division that basically has eyes in the sky and coordinates information and strategies in real time. Maybe you'll bring it up later, but it definitely needs to be brought up when discussing the alliance.
I love the energy, topics and the discussions of the video! Great job y'all! Keep that same energy. Got some notes and questions tho. Absolutly great idea to make it an actual discussion by bringing the series to relative power levels. But in regards to Speed i think it was a little to much of a nerf with the Naruto verse. We have darui using photons who is the raikages right hand man which OUTSCALES him. Haku with his nonsense, and various other statements that you can use to get raikage to lightspeed even if you disregard the "misstranslation". And in doing so, get naruto to even higher speeds. I mean like KID KAKASHI fatigued was able to run up a cliff and intercept actual lightning which is already 1/3rd the speed of light. So this doesn't really need to be regarded in a careful sense. I THINK the era of downplaying the naruto verse is over so yall don't have to be afraid of back lash and speak your minds. Not saying you guys did not ofc. (Not complaining, just pointing this out. Nor am i calling anyone out. ) Other then that absolutly chill great video. Keep up the grind.
Nah I definitely agree and have mentioned it before LS is just really consistent in the War Arc with all the different avenues, I just didn’t want the focal point of the vid explaining all of that when a lot of the arguments I mentioned are known
@ThunderGodTG I feel you on that! Great vid nonetheless. Also, Thank the lord finally someone acknowledges the original silver haired king though!! Kakashi war arc is freaking cracked man! WITHOUT the DMS as well lol!
Shikamaru's team will dominate the 10 shadows. Deer crushed by choji rather easily, shimamaru takes the bull using shadow possession and targets it towards sukuna or forces it to stop to be killed. If gojo is taken by shadow posession Ino is just swapping bodies, if shes good at releasing she can set it up so that she swaps right before a killing blow or use gojo to fight sukuna or just take him out of the fight. Gojo has 0 mental resistance, so she'd be able to control hum for a very long period of time. Sukuna I think is way easier to deal with same with Mahoraga since all attacks would work, mahoraga would have a lot of attacks to adapt to before dying. Ofc heavy casualties but theres also cursed tools here if its the same scenario and theres a lot of power houses honestly and tactical geniuses especially with Shikamaru and his dad as background support Loving the video so far. Cant wait for the sasuke and itachi part because they DOG WALK gojo and sukuna with ease. Sukuna and gojo have 0 way to kill reanimated itachi and genjutsu sleeps them both not to mention AP difference
@@dandanyellow The fact that it's inherent to sorcerer. You ain't stealing it unless you become the sorcerer himself, which no one in Naruto short of Orochimaru can do
itachi’s tsukuyomi works different than pretty much every other genjutsu. You can only HOPE to break out of it if you’re an uchiha AND have specifically the sharingan. Disrupting chakra doesn’t break you out of it like regular genjutsu. So gojos rct wouldn’t break him out. Further more depending on how serious itachi is, it’s basically a one shot. He has complete control over space and time in tsukuyomi. So he can choose to have you tortured for 1000 years. He can choose to make you live your entire life so you’re just brain dead when you’re out etcetc. All of this happens in like a couple seconds in the real world. So 2 seconds of rct probably isn’t going to out heal the damage done in tsukuyomi. Kakashi only survived and was able to be healed because itachi wanted him to and only tortured him for 3 days. If he wants to kill gojo thought Gojo is cooked if it lands. It’s basically even way stronger than Gojos own infinite void.
The requirement is that Itachi's chakra needs to enter through his opponent's eyes and makes its way into their brain. Since infinity can stop cursed energy from reaching Gojo I see no reason why it wouldn't also stop chakra and make tsukuyomi irrelevant.
@@JohnSmith-j7n Where was it stated that Itachi's chakra is needed to enter the eyes themselves? Tsukiyomi was stated to be based on one's vision of the eye itself. Its technically photons from Itachi's eyes reaching Gojo's eyes. Now given the fact that Gojo's infinity doesnt seem to actually stop photons from reaching him(everyone can see him, he can see everything), although Gojo can probably stop light from reaching him if he really tried. Gojo's infinity is threat detection based, and we dont know whether or not it would actually detect the light from Itachi's eyes as threats. Tsukiyomi likely would catch him based on sight.
@@nirjhar4803 It doesn't have anything to do with photons. Genjutsu works by introducing your chakra into the opponent's body and then messing with their senses. Photons have nothing to do with that. The reason why looking at Itachi's eye puts you under his genjutsu is because you're allowing his chakra to enter your eyes and go directly to the brain through the optic nerves. At least that's how kotoamatsukami is explained in the novel.
5 Kage Slaps No - Low diff 🙌 If Domain works on them , They should be able to do Domain amplification. So Unlimited Void is not Working. And Particle style erases both Sukuna and Madara. Kage Just starts rushing and Blitzing from the start and body them.
@@ThunderGodTG yep, nd I even thought that u guys were generous with how the domain amplification worked. (As well as their general scaling of course). Good shit.
19:32 why would the domain break? In the fight they were even and sukuna ended up breaking gojos through attacks. If anything the 5 kage would get stunned and malevolent shrine would just end up breaking gojos domain and then kill them
It's a matter of which company would brutalize them the most and if or not having Zetsu's reduce that... Like the division with the lowest chances has people with possible answers to Gojo's infinity, Darui who's attack does that and can match their high end speed interpretation, and let's not forget the goat himself Choji swapping hands with the Gedo Mazo w/ seven tailed beasts sealed in it. Even Kitsuchi who was able to restrain that statue and V2 Juubi and sucker punching V2 Kinkaku. Even Ino's mind transfer was able to work against Obito and WA Shikamaru's shadow technique should be quite useful especially in team battle...
With that bit about Mahoraga Adapting to chakra itself, wasn’t this actually mentioned in Sukuna versus Gojo? Specifically the first Adaptation makes against Gojo which Sukuna wasn’t able to replicate.
I can name you 10+ characters from war arc that can neg jjk verse. literally mog the verse edit: there's more than 30 if we're taking boruto in consideration
the sukuna downplay here is insane sukuna's rct is on par or even better than gojo so i kinda disagree with the uchiha brothers scenario also @sage gojo himself states that sukuna would have bodied him with or without 10s so cope other than that an enjoyable video good content guys keep it going
"also @sage gojo himself states that sukuna would have bodied him with or without 10s so cope " Gojo didn't say that at all Gojo was UNSURE about if he could beat Sukuna in that Scenario.
I understood what Sage trying to say since Gojo does have light enter his domain and it filters out he may be more susceptible to light based attacks, but I don’t think it’d fundamentally be any different than a cursed technique that can’t bypass infinity
@@ThunderGodTGwhy do you presume the laws of physics is the same as ours? If it were the case, light speed would be impossible. Even theoretically, pushing off the planet to achieve even 99% of light speed would destroy the entire planet, solar system and likely universe. It’s too much energy. So obviously the laws of physics aren’t the same and there is no reason to believe the speeds of sound and light are the same as ours. We couldn’t possibly know who would speed blitz who because we don’t know their relative speed to each other. Light is obviously much slower in naruto than it is in our reality. And a light speed attack would be a sure hit as you wouldn’t be able to see it coming. You need light to bounce off of something and reach your eyes before being able to counter it.
There’s no reason to assume it’s slower these are super powered ninjas so them being able to move and react at speeds impossible for the real world isn’t a problem we know some characters have precognition so it’s even more believable they can react to fast attacks kid kakashi could cut a lightning bolt before it hit the ground the speed I naruto is just higher than Jjk
@@Tkyoking saying “it simply is” is not an argument. You have to articulate a logical reason, or in the very least a reason that isn’t self defeating. Because if all it took were a “it simply is”, any argument can be made in that merit. I could say, Shikamaru simply is stronger than naruto. It’s not an argument.
@@eduardosantana8300 that kinda is how it works there are databook statements for attacks or characters moving at light speed and then you upscale characters to or above that like darui in naruto he has a attack that reflects light off of water particles in the form of beams haku who the databooks say can move at light speed between the mirrors I just think it’s weird your questioning the physics in the show we see the elements they make for jutsu work like normal fire burn stuff water makes things wet and conducts lightning wind blows things around and can enhance fires so do you have any proof the speed of light is lower than in real life because the examples I have are stated to be light speed or have the ability to be that speed
In the genjutsu argument, I think it’s important to also note that gojo keeps running RCT on his brain to prevent it from blowing up, and we know that you can disrupt your chakra system to break out of genjutsu, so that RCT process can also just break him out of genjutsu
Didnt Gojo do that when he started to overload on Domain expansions? Cause he doesnt passively use RCT on his brain at all times, considering the CT cost(although Six Eyes effectively gives Gojo limitless CT). Gojo would probably be capable of resisting/breaking out of most types of Genjutsus, but Tsukiyomi isnt actually a normal genjutsu to begin with. It was quite explicitly stated that once you're trapped no-one except another Uchiha would even have a chance of breaking out. And just the time-dilution alone makes a literal moment of getting caught in it, fatal(if the user wants it to be).
I think for the spirit weapons and things like reaper death seal and the reaper it can be argued that they’re intangible or immaterial until contact. Sort of like how kamui functions with Obito that if he wants to make contact with the physical or tangible world he has to become physical or tangible world himself. So maybe the Totsuka Blade technically won’t be subject to Limitless conditions until Gojo gets poked. In case of the reaper death seal it’s harder tho because the user has to initiate contact which isn’t possible without bypassing Limitless. Also examples for Totsuka and Reaper Death working this way are that the blade arguably doesn’t differ from its databook description until it pokes Orochimaru which his blood implies it to be physical. In the case of reaper death seal, the Reaper himself is usually invisible and arguably untouchable as in intangible to most ninja until the user of the technique initiates the soul grab where they then can have a tug of war of souls with the user not necessarily the reaper as he technically only initiates this interaction, as it’s implied in Orochimaru vs Hiruzen that Oro is fighting against Hiruzen for his soul not the reaper and only counter would be in Minato’s case against Nine Tails but unless you think Minato can just blatantly overwhelm the nine tails in strength, in that scenario where the reaper does act himself and sever Kurama’s soul, Kurama can’t even stop it or arguably even react to it. But on that point I will concede that it can be argued that Kurama didn’t stop it because he didn’t know how since not everyone is implied to be able to have this soul tug of war. Edit: just my two cents on that particular point, I think the conclusion you guys came to was just as plausible and accurate and as always fire video from the at this point aimbot king 😂🔥🔥
Yeah I was def having a bit of fun with the whole “astral weapons” argument, I think it def warrants a lot of discussion like if they’re tangible when they impact or touch something like the reaper. Regardless good comment appreciate the love ✊🏻
TG THE GAWD 🔥 another banger vid I never thought about Naruto and krama swapping places in infinity void witch would be GG FOR BOTH and i say even if sakuna had the world cutting slice it wouldn't even matter because kashimo Dodge it most people here r dodging it I argue gojo just didn't believe it would cut him and that's how he was got but no one else got an Infiniti barrier so everyone is going to try to dodge it
I think their highest scaling is like planet and ftl. Gojo&sukuna: If they hit us with Biju bombs and genjutsu we may have a little trouble. "But would you lose?" "Nah, we'd win." They get slammed so bad lol we gotta nerf Naruto for this.
If magohora found a way past infinity he can no doubt adapt to chakra reinforcement. Jusy because it wasnt the main focus doesnt mean he cant adapt to it
Fire vid, one thing I wonder though is whether Amaterasu would bypass the limitless. I think it could be argued, as the flame spawns directly on top of something within Sasuke or Itachi's field of view. The only time I remember it having traveled physical space or distance is when it's being shaped by Kagetsuchi. I could be wrong though and am really just looking for a way to make EMS Sasuke more relevant during his and Itachi's battle.
It wouldn’t work like that the best way I could explain it as imagine the infinity like a chakra cloak it would land on the infinity and not the actual target.
Another way I've interpreted the creation feats in Domain is based off of two events. The first is Mai using CE to make a bullet, the other being Hanami creating roots with CE. The Hanami example is more prevalent here in that Todo was convinced that by sheer volume that she had to be incorporating real roots and plants in her technique, but she wasn't. So, in JJK, if a person is strong enough or has the right technique, they can use CE to create tangible mass. If this is true, and I'm lead to believe it is based off the previous precedents, then Dagon being Island level minimum is a solid baseline standard to scale up from, not even account for the water and clouds that exist in the Domain as well.
I’d just like to add a further example of Contractual recreation. It recreates objects similar to hanami’s technique, but the objects disappear after a while. Despite that we know the objects have actual mass because Megumi must bare the weight of said objects.
Nah this vid was extremely bias in the early parts. You guys just kept highballing JJK to the maximum in order to get them to reach the high tiers 😂. Realistically JJK doesn’t have light speed scaling and the Naruto verse has a lot that would bypass Gojo’s infinity, even the low tiers are getting through that especially with team work
“Higher interpretation” in every other JJK vid I have gone with more conservative scaling but the scaling talked about does have support. You deadass said the same shit I did in the vid bruv with LS Naruto being way more common with LS JJK being around the peak stuff.
Im glad you guys are accounting for genjutsu so many trash scalers leave out genjutsu because "w-well they dont have chakra 🤓" even tho its a verse equalization. Ive literally seen VE used as more of a sneak jjk verse buff than its actual intended use
The five kage are usually pretty spread apart especially with ohnoki and gaaras mobility and air support so i dont think domains are gonna be too useful
DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW GOJO DOMAIN WORKS THE MOMENT HE OPENS THE DOMAIN THEIR BRAIN GETS FRIED BY UNLIMITED INFO IN YOUR BRAIN DOESNT MATTER IF YOU ARE IN AIR OR IN GROUND
The thing with the UV is that sukuna already knew how it worked and he already prepared a plan on how to counter it. He has no information on tsukuyomi.
I think, if sakuna has megumi in him, he can just redirect the genjutsu onto megumi. I guess it depends on how you scale him doing that to infinite void
Could the sharingan copy domain amplification? Limitless/10s or are those treated like kekkei genkai? Cleave and dismantle since they aren’t clan related? Verse equalization gets funky
Were the 1st fight against Darui's division to be written, I think Darui would be making light with the lasers to create a long shadow for Shikamaru to stand on and manage a kagemane. That's on brand.
Why do you presume that the laws of physics in naruto is the same as the earth? Obviously they aren’t, because if they were, the speed at which characters move in naruto would destroy the entire universe. Since the laws aren’t the same, obviously the speed of sound and light wouldn’t be the same. If someone attacked you at the speed of light, you literally wouldn’t see it coming, as the light has not travelled to you before the actual attack.
@@eduardosantana8300 they have sensing abilities, these aren’t humans. Are u assuming their perception is the same as ours? Also why are you assuming that moving faster than light would destroy their universe? It’s made of chakra nd seemingly other phenomena that don’t occur in our universe. Why would u think the Naruto universe would be destroyed by an object with mass having infinite energy?
@@ThunderGodTG If Guy who treats everyone like sh%t says that as fact it's pretty consistent info. Especially considering Mahoraga already bodied someone similiar to Gojo in the past, despite Limitless being nigh impossible to deal with. If Alliance doesn't destroy him fast enough - they're smoked
The problem isn't their domain will work but it's if they have the Intel to counter or would know if it would work it's more about whether or not they would actually use it in that scenario
Sukunas domain as active outside of gojos they could make it work if gojo touches Sukuna while Sukuna uses MS on the outside not targeting gojos domain
Question if genjutsu is so OP how were the senju able to deal with it in a war that spanned decades? I literally saw Tobirama just shut his eyes and he was able to counter it
You can beat the Sharingan via a 2 on 1. There are ways to counter it even Chiyo notes it via partnering up and just disrupting chakra flow or chakra flexing out. The Senju having insanely high chakra makes them difficult targets to control + not every uchiha was running around with an MS
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“Nah We’d Win” Proceeds to glaze Kakashi in the airport.
So how was the Copy Ninja?
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He was freaking strong, i don't think i would win even without kamui
lmaooo
@@emmanuelonss2093 Its a bully match even with the boost.
Lol 😂
“Throughout heaven and earth, we are Peak EMS Sasuke victims”- Gojo and Sukuna after Sasuke does his Storm Ultimate
Peak victims 😂😂😂😂
SPIT
No lies being told here🔥🔥🔥
@@ThunderGodTGI have a question would gojo be able to heal sukuna's brain with RCT or would it not be enough because the effect would be lower?
@@kadeemheron5041gojo can't heal other people
TG: My glorious king would you lose???
Gojo: Nah, I’d get victimized
THIS IS CRAZY 😭😭
@@ThunderGodTGpls make a sukkuna vs shigaraki vidoe 😅 they’re abilities clashing are pretty interesting
@@ThunderGodTG you should do a mahoraga vs the kage video
Guy & Kakashi speedrunning to see who can send Gojo to the airport faster
Guy can’t touch Gojo. Kamui would be able to, but that’s only if Kakashi can land one before exhausting himself. Gojo’s stamina is way above Kakashi’s
@@MindlessMenacespeed blitz
@@megafox3753 bruh what💀Guy can’t speed blitz infinity if that’s what you’re saying
@@MindlessMenacewar arc kakashi spams these for no good reason so stamina shouldn’t be an issue imo.
@@JohnDoe-si4eg from what I remember, Kakashi used it 4x. Kakashi was exhausted. Gojo doesn’t run out of energy or stamina. I think it’s a case of Kakashi being technically stronger & physically faster, but he won’t win.
The energy in this video was great, you guys all flowed with each other nicely. Hope to see more of this 3-way dead lock.
Actual question. Can't all the Ninja avoid Domains by simply... substituting out by switching locations with a log outside the domain or smth lmao?
TG:” so what do you guys think, would it work?”
Sage:”Yes and no”
😂🤣😂
LMAO nah I told them I want it to be an actual convo not just us saying some objectives
@@ThunderGodTG I know, it’s just funny quoting that out of the video without context lol.
This was a dope video. I appreciate you putting that Cursed Clash gameplay in the back to make sure I will never purchase it 😂
Horrendous ass game 🤧
@@ThunderGodTGI’ve heard mixed opinions on the game. Is it actually that bad?
Nah it’s whatever if you enjoy it ball out I just think it ain’t worth the price
@@chance2110YES ITS ASS BRO😭😭😭
Hey tg i just wanted to thank you i use your videos to fall asleep,they really help with my anxiety just your energy is great keep up the good work
Bro out here telling me my videos are helping his anxiety is CRAZY humbling I really appreciate that bro 🙏🏻 made my night with such a wholesome comment. I’m glad I could help someone going through tuff stuff ✊🏻 comments like this keep me going
Always a pleasure to be on the channel 🙏🏼 Anyone that has a problem with my scaling…GET AT ME I’M HERE 😤
Nah we good
"Since infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, and light is subatomic, light wins."
shutup scrub and keep making stuff for us to laugh at.
Nahh you good! W/o big Raga Kuna is a Gojo victim
@@MZOver 🫡
@@AtenSol12 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Great video from the GOAT as per usual 🙏🏾
My man ✊🏻🔥
Hanamis flower field is inferior to tsukiyomi. So the fact gojo got caught by hanamis despite his six eyes proved tsukiyomi would work on gojo.
The argument is if it could get through the limitless and news flash….. after a domain you cant use your ct so Gojo didn’t have limitless activated.
Don’t be disingenuous
@@CertainlyCynical good point.
Nah cus genjutsus control the other person Chakra or CE for this so it wouldn't need to bypass infinity because he could just used the Chakra/CE that's already there/ the CE making then infinity barrier@@CertainlyCynical
@@CertainlyCynicalyeah but he can heal his own curse technically with RCT
CE IS NOT EQUAL TO CHAKRA PAL@@makkBd
unfortunately gojo and sukuna can’t make it pass kakazu 😞
13:42 Sooooo, what about the sealing pot? Or just sealing techniques in general? There's a real possibility the war arc characters might assume they are Edos after they regenerate, but even if they didn't, treating them like Edos would be the move. Also, I haven't heard you talk about the Intel division that basically has eyes in the sky and coordinates information and strategies in real time. Maybe you'll bring it up later, but it definitely needs to be brought up when discussing the alliance.
A tripple collab? Let's go!
Big props for the persona 3 ost , love your vids TG
My man ✊🏻
@ThunderGodTG keep up the good content brother you've become one of my favorite TH-camrs
Thank you sir for the humbling words🫡 I’ll try to live up to them!
@@ThunderGodTG no pressure 😂
So in this crossverse battle Gojo and Sakuna just have unlimited stamina I guess 😂
This is genuinely amazing.
My GOAT 🙏🏻 how have you been bro? Missed you on these last few streams
@@ThunderGodTG We good. Life is great. How about you? :)
Bro excellent and I’m glad to hear the man’s is doing well 🙏🏻
@@ThunderGodTG Insert Hashirama's laughter here. Have a good week dude.
I love the energy, topics and the discussions of the video! Great job y'all! Keep that same energy.
Got some notes and questions tho.
Absolutly great idea to make it an actual discussion by bringing the series to relative power levels.
But in regards to Speed i think it was a little to much of a nerf with the Naruto verse.
We have darui using photons who is the raikages right hand man which OUTSCALES him.
Haku with his nonsense, and various other statements that you can use to get raikage to lightspeed even if you disregard the "misstranslation".
And in doing so, get naruto to even higher speeds.
I mean like KID KAKASHI fatigued was able to run up a cliff and intercept actual lightning which is already 1/3rd the speed of light.
So this doesn't really need to be regarded in a careful sense.
I THINK the era of downplaying the naruto verse is over so yall don't have to be afraid of back lash and speak your minds.
Not saying you guys did not ofc.
(Not complaining, just pointing this out. Nor am i calling anyone out. )
Other then that absolutly chill great video. Keep up the grind.
Nah I definitely agree and have mentioned it before LS is just really consistent in the War Arc with all the different avenues, I just didn’t want the focal point of the vid explaining all of that when a lot of the arguments I mentioned are known
@ThunderGodTG I feel you on that! Great vid nonetheless. Also,
Thank the lord finally someone acknowledges the original silver haired king though!!
Kakashi war arc is freaking cracked man! WITHOUT the DMS as well lol!
What a collab,love sotc n et. Keep the great content coming TG
Let the fun begin
Yessir
“Did…did we beat the Five Kage?”
“Gojo, that was base Temari.”
Just to throw a bone to Gojo for a little genjutsu resistance, blindfold.
Just kidding that changes nothing, great video!
Shikamaru's team will dominate the 10 shadows. Deer crushed by choji rather easily, shimamaru takes the bull using shadow possession and targets it towards sukuna or forces it to stop to be killed. If gojo is taken by shadow posession Ino is just swapping bodies, if shes good at releasing she can set it up so that she swaps right before a killing blow or use gojo to fight sukuna or just take him out of the fight. Gojo has 0 mental resistance, so she'd be able to control hum for a very long period of time.
Sukuna I think is way easier to deal with same with Mahoraga since all attacks would work, mahoraga would have a lot of attacks to adapt to before dying. Ofc heavy casualties but theres also cursed tools here if its the same scenario and theres a lot of power houses honestly and tactical geniuses especially with Shikamaru and his dad as background support
Loving the video so far. Cant wait for the sasuke and itachi part because they DOG WALK gojo and sukuna with ease. Sukuna and gojo have 0 way to kill reanimated itachi and genjutsu sleeps them both not to mention AP difference
Shikamaru wouldn’t be able to steal the ten shadows
@@southyonko6455 says who
@@dandanyellow The fact that it's inherent to sorcerer.
You ain't stealing it unless you become the sorcerer himself, which no one in Naruto short of Orochimaru can do
Bro another great video., loving the Persona music.
You gotta try out a persona game.
I have Persona 5 on my LIST gotta get around to it
Kakashi kamui blitzing Sasuke susanoo arrow is a great example
Do Sukuna vs buggy please 🙏
itachi’s tsukuyomi works different than pretty much every other genjutsu. You can only HOPE to break out of it if you’re an uchiha AND have specifically the sharingan. Disrupting chakra doesn’t break you out of it like regular genjutsu. So gojos rct wouldn’t break him out. Further more depending on how serious itachi is, it’s basically a one shot. He has complete control over space and time in tsukuyomi. So he can choose to have you tortured for 1000 years. He can choose to make you live your entire life so you’re just brain dead when you’re out etcetc. All of this happens in like a couple seconds in the real world. So 2 seconds of rct probably isn’t going to out heal the damage done in tsukuyomi. Kakashi only survived and was able to be healed because itachi wanted him to and only tortured him for 3 days. If he wants to kill gojo thought Gojo is cooked if it lands. It’s basically even way stronger than Gojos own infinite void.
The requirement is that Itachi's chakra needs to enter through his opponent's eyes and makes its way into their brain. Since infinity can stop cursed energy from reaching Gojo I see no reason why it wouldn't also stop chakra and make tsukuyomi irrelevant.
@@JohnSmith-j7n Where was it stated that Itachi's chakra is needed to enter the eyes themselves? Tsukiyomi was stated to be based on one's vision of the eye itself.
Its technically photons from Itachi's eyes reaching Gojo's eyes. Now given the fact that Gojo's infinity doesnt seem to actually stop photons from reaching him(everyone can see him, he can see everything), although Gojo can probably stop light from reaching him if he really tried. Gojo's infinity is threat detection based, and we dont know whether or not it would actually detect the light from Itachi's eyes as threats. Tsukiyomi likely would catch him based on sight.
@@nirjhar4803 It doesn't have anything to do with photons. Genjutsu works by introducing your chakra into the opponent's body and then messing with their senses. Photons have nothing to do with that.
The reason why looking at Itachi's eye puts you under his genjutsu is because you're allowing his chakra to enter your eyes and go directly to the brain through the optic nerves.
At least that's how kotoamatsukami is explained in the novel.
Oonoki hops on A's back, and they blitz and one shot the both of them.
5 Kage Slaps No - Low diff 🙌
If Domain works on them , They should be able to do Domain amplification. So Unlimited Void is not Working.
And Particle style erases both Sukuna and Madara.
Kage Just starts rushing and Blitzing from the start and body them.
The Shinobi alliance when mahoraga adapts to six paths
Ayeee bringing up domain amplification after u saw it in yo comments from last vid. U a real one 💯💯
Nah appreciate it fr hopefully there was some noticeable improvement ✊🏻
@@ThunderGodTG yep, nd I even thought that u guys were generous with how the domain amplification worked. (As well as their general scaling of course). Good shit.
19:32 why would the domain break? In the fight they were even and sukuna ended up breaking gojos through attacks. If anything the 5 kage would get stunned and malevolent shrine would just end up breaking gojos domain and then kill them
Damn good point! Also if gojo casted domain, sukuna can touch gojo so he wont be affected by the void while the void stuns locks the kage
It's a matter of which company would brutalize them the most and if or not having Zetsu's reduce that...
Like the division with the lowest chances has people with possible answers to Gojo's infinity, Darui who's attack does that and can match their high end speed interpretation, and let's not forget the goat himself Choji swapping hands with the Gedo Mazo w/ seven tailed beasts sealed in it. Even Kitsuchi who was able to restrain that statue and V2 Juubi and sucker punching V2 Kinkaku. Even Ino's mind transfer was able to work against Obito and WA Shikamaru's shadow technique should be quite useful especially in team battle...
Interesting , keep making these 👌🏽
Great video guys!! Definitely do more collabs
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With that bit about Mahoraga Adapting to chakra itself, wasn’t this actually mentioned in Sukuna versus Gojo? Specifically the first Adaptation makes against Gojo which Sukuna wasn’t able to replicate.
Low end? The shinobi alliance body.
High end? Gojo an sukuna lose but like depending on interpretation is difficulty
I can name you 10+ characters from war arc that can neg jjk verse. literally mog the verse
edit: there's more than 30 if we're taking boruto in consideration
the sukuna downplay here is insane sukuna's rct is on par or even better than gojo so i kinda disagree with the uchiha brothers scenario
also @sage gojo himself states that sukuna would have bodied him with or without 10s so cope
other than that an enjoyable video good content guys keep it going
"also @sage gojo himself states that sukuna would have bodied him with or without 10s so cope "
Gojo didn't say that at all Gojo was UNSURE about if he could beat Sukuna in that Scenario.
One of the best collabs man 🙌
"Since infinity manipulates space on an atomic level, and light is subatomic, light wins."
when you get your source from quora
I understood what Sage trying to say since Gojo does have light enter his domain and it filters out he may be more susceptible to light based attacks, but I don’t think it’d fundamentally be any different than a cursed technique that can’t bypass infinity
@@ThunderGodTGwhy do you presume the laws of physics is the same as ours? If it were the case, light speed would be impossible. Even theoretically, pushing off the planet to achieve even 99% of light speed would destroy the entire planet, solar system and likely universe. It’s too much energy. So obviously the laws of physics aren’t the same and there is no reason to believe the speeds of sound and light are the same as ours.
We couldn’t possibly know who would speed blitz who because we don’t know their relative speed to each other. Light is obviously much slower in naruto than it is in our reality. And a light speed attack would be a sure hit as you wouldn’t be able to see it coming. You need light to bounce off of something and reach your eyes before being able to counter it.
There’s no reason to assume it’s slower these are super powered ninjas so them being able to move and react at speeds impossible for the real world isn’t a problem we know some characters have precognition so it’s even more believable they can react to fast attacks kid kakashi could cut a lightning bolt before it hit the ground the speed I naruto is just higher than Jjk
@@Tkyoking saying “it simply is” is not an argument. You have to articulate a logical reason, or in the very least a reason that isn’t self defeating. Because if all it took were a “it simply is”, any argument can be made in that merit. I could say, Shikamaru simply is stronger than naruto. It’s not an argument.
@@eduardosantana8300 that kinda is how it works there are databook statements for attacks or characters moving at light speed and then you upscale characters to or above that like darui in naruto he has a attack that reflects light off of water particles in the form of beams haku who the databooks say can move at light speed between the mirrors I just think it’s weird your questioning the physics in the show we see the elements they make for jutsu work like normal fire burn stuff water makes things wet and conducts lightning wind blows things around and can enhance fires so do you have any proof the speed of light is lower than in real life because the examples I have are stated to be light speed or have the ability to be that speed
In the genjutsu argument, I think it’s important to also note that gojo keeps running RCT on his brain to prevent it from blowing up, and we know that you can disrupt your chakra system to break out of genjutsu, so that RCT process can also just break him out of genjutsu
Didnt Gojo do that when he started to overload on Domain expansions? Cause he doesnt passively use RCT on his brain at all times, considering the CT cost(although Six Eyes effectively gives Gojo limitless CT).
Gojo would probably be capable of resisting/breaking out of most types of Genjutsus, but Tsukiyomi isnt actually a normal genjutsu to begin with. It was quite explicitly stated that once you're trapped no-one except another Uchiha would even have a chance of breaking out.
And just the time-dilution alone makes a literal moment of getting caught in it, fatal(if the user wants it to be).
Amazing detail good video
Brooo flame saying that limitless can block Genjutsu its crazy😭😭
Arguing for sukuna, I feel like the flame arrow might have been a better counter to the sand seal more than his domain.
29:33 does anyone know where that animation came from? I've never seen that
I think for the spirit weapons and things like reaper death seal and the reaper it can be argued that they’re intangible or immaterial until contact. Sort of like how kamui functions with Obito that if he wants to make contact with the physical or tangible world he has to become physical or tangible world himself. So maybe the Totsuka Blade technically won’t be subject to Limitless conditions until Gojo gets poked. In case of the reaper death seal it’s harder tho because the user has to initiate contact which isn’t possible without bypassing Limitless. Also examples for Totsuka and Reaper Death working this way are that the blade arguably doesn’t differ from its databook description until it pokes Orochimaru which his blood implies it to be physical. In the case of reaper death seal, the Reaper himself is usually invisible and arguably untouchable as in intangible to most ninja until the user of the technique initiates the soul grab where they then can have a tug of war of souls with the user not necessarily the reaper as he technically only initiates this interaction, as it’s implied in Orochimaru vs Hiruzen that Oro is fighting against Hiruzen for his soul not the reaper and only counter would be in Minato’s case against Nine Tails but unless you think Minato can just blatantly overwhelm the nine tails in strength, in that scenario where the reaper does act himself and sever Kurama’s soul, Kurama can’t even stop it or arguably even react to it. But on that point I will concede that it can be argued that Kurama didn’t stop it because he didn’t know how since not everyone is implied to be able to have this soul tug of war.
Edit: just my two cents on that particular point, I think the conclusion you guys came to was just as plausible and accurate and as always fire video from the at this point aimbot king 😂🔥🔥
Yeah I was def having a bit of fun with the whole “astral weapons” argument, I think it def warrants a lot of discussion like if they’re tangible when they impact or touch something like the reaper. Regardless good comment appreciate the love ✊🏻
TG THE GAWD 🔥 another banger vid I never thought about Naruto and krama swapping places in infinity void witch would be GG FOR BOTH and i say even if sakuna had the world cutting slice it wouldn't even matter because kashimo Dodge it most people here r dodging it I argue gojo just didn't believe it would cut him and that's how he was got but no one else got an Infiniti barrier so everyone is going to try to dodge it
W video, W colab. you love to see it
Great video🔥
41:54 Is that a bakugan water stage theme I’m hearing? u a goat for that
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@@ThunderGodTG I noticed it in a few other videos but so sure until now
If we're equalizing that means the Naruto characters get to jump. And I don't think they're surviving a Jump no Jutsu.
😂😂
give sukuna his cursed tool kamutoke
I think their highest scaling is like planet and ftl.
Gojo&sukuna: If they hit us with Biju bombs and genjutsu we may have a little trouble.
"But would you lose?"
"Nah, we'd win."
They get slammed so bad lol we gotta nerf Naruto for this.
What u doing back on this app thought u gave up last stream
The Indomitable Human Spirit vs YT Chat 😂😭
@@ThunderGodTGYT chat is sukuna trying to break your will
Rage quitting the stream top 5 TG lore moments
NAH Y’ALL HOMEWRECKERS I just couldn’t no kire
@@ThunderGodTG y’all ? You mean one of youse I ain’t exposing who but most of us weren’t agreeing
Guys it’s literally stated in the manga that gojo can SEE THROUGH ILLUSIONS how do people miss this
If magohora found a way past infinity he can no doubt adapt to chakra reinforcement.
Jusy because it wasnt the main focus doesnt mean he cant adapt to it
21:40 FUNNY if when sukuna open domain he just used fuga and gojo was like "Ill just kill all of them in one hit" and then purples on top of that
Gojo would know what's up with that particle style when he see it. From there they'll focus on taking him out. Once he's gone, it's over.
Fire vid, one thing I wonder though is whether Amaterasu would bypass the limitless. I think it could be argued, as the flame spawns directly on top of something within Sasuke or Itachi's field of view. The only time I remember it having traveled physical space or distance is when it's being shaped by Kagetsuchi. I could be wrong though and am really just looking for a way to make EMS Sasuke more relevant during his and Itachi's battle.
It wouldn’t work like that the best way I could explain it as imagine the infinity like a chakra cloak it would land on the infinity and not the actual target.
Throughout Heaven and Earth, Go/Jo alone gets divided in round one.
Another way I've interpreted the creation feats in Domain is based off of two events. The first is Mai using CE to make a bullet, the other being Hanami creating roots with CE. The Hanami example is more prevalent here in that Todo was convinced that by sheer volume that she had to be incorporating real roots and plants in her technique, but she wasn't.
So, in JJK, if a person is strong enough or has the right technique, they can use CE to create tangible mass. If this is true, and I'm lead to believe it is based off the previous precedents, then Dagon being Island level minimum is a solid baseline standard to scale up from, not even account for the water and clouds that exist in the Domain as well.
BRO COOKING
I’d just like to add a further example of Contractual recreation. It recreates objects similar to hanami’s technique, but the objects disappear after a while. Despite that we know the objects have actual mass because Megumi must bare the weight of said objects.
@ThunderGodTG I've been arguing this for weeks, and people have told me, "I still don't see how that follows. Creation isn't the same as Destruction."
@chance2110 I completely forgot that part, you're spitting facts
Creation requires more energy than destruction they just ain't peeping it's actually MORE impressive LMAO
Nah this vid was extremely bias in the early parts. You guys just kept highballing JJK to the maximum in order to get them to reach the high tiers 😂. Realistically JJK doesn’t have light speed scaling and the Naruto verse has a lot that would bypass Gojo’s infinity, even the low tiers are getting through that especially with team work
“Higher interpretation” in every other JJK vid I have gone with more conservative scaling but the scaling talked about does have support. You deadass said the same shit I did in the vid bruv with LS Naruto being way more common with LS JJK being around the peak stuff.
the persona music🙏
Im glad you guys are accounting for genjutsu so many trash scalers leave out genjutsu because "w-well they dont have chakra 🤓" even tho its a verse equalization. Ive literally seen VE used as more of a sneak jjk verse buff than its actual intended use
holdon… this isn’t a KCM vid
Oh nah lmao
@@ThunderGodTG 🫵🫰 bro this isn’t a jokey joke you owe us that vid
Negative
Might Gai vs Sukana and Magaha would be a good fight.
Up until Gai use the Death seventh gate and it over.
Wow. This was a surprising video
The bakugan music goes hard
The five kage are usually pretty spread apart especially with ohnoki and gaaras mobility and air support so i dont think domains are gonna be too useful
DO YOU EVEN KNOW HOW GOJO DOMAIN WORKS THE MOMENT HE OPENS THE DOMAIN THEIR BRAIN GETS FRIED BY UNLIMITED INFO IN YOUR BRAIN DOESNT MATTER IF YOU ARE IN AIR OR IN GROUND
this was a funny video. i liked it
Do you think sukuna could redirect the tsukyomi onto megumis soul to allow mahoraga to adapt to it like he did with unlimited void
The thing with the UV is that sukuna already knew how it worked and he already prepared a plan on how to counter it.
He has no information on tsukuyomi.
No one can talk about Gojo's teleportation Power to escape Kakashi's kamui
Gojo’s teleportation is him slingshotting himself between two binary spaces not jumping through a different time space
@@ThunderGodTG Gojo uses Limitless to create a negative distance between himself and his destination and it's faster than kamui
I think, if sakuna has megumi in him, he can just redirect the genjutsu onto megumi. I guess it depends on how you scale him doing that to infinite void
Could the sharingan copy domain amplification? Limitless/10s or are those treated like kekkei genkai? Cleave and dismantle since they aren’t clan related?
Verse equalization gets funky
Cleave and dismantle kills most the alliance
8th gates guy can warp space with his attacks lmfao he blitzes and solos
The blue gojo 😭 i thought he was a frog
Fun video idea tbh
Get this TG video 501 comments today
tbh idk why we can’t fully take the kashimo scaling to heart when i’ve seen people accept other statements or interpretations for less.
I think it’s super fair it just more so applies to top tiers
Were the 1st fight against Darui's division to be written, I think Darui would be making light with the lasers to create a long shadow for Shikamaru to stand on and manage a kagemane. That's on brand.
Bruh dope vid 😂 the naruto verse is just too much for jjk
THE GOATS
Rip gojo and fraudkuna they ain’t making it sukuna especially blitzed and gojo kakashi all genjutsu users and some others got his number so rip
Bro stfu with fraudkuna when that waste of infinity is cut in half 😂
Why do you presume that the laws of physics in naruto is the same as the earth?
Obviously they aren’t, because if they were, the speed at which characters move in naruto would destroy the entire universe.
Since the laws aren’t the same, obviously the speed of sound and light wouldn’t be the same. If someone attacked you at the speed of light, you literally wouldn’t see it coming, as the light has not travelled to you before the actual attack.
They are in the pack
Go/jo*
@@eduardosantana8300 they have sensing abilities, these aren’t humans. Are u assuming their perception is the same as ours? Also why are you assuming that moving faster than light would destroy their universe? It’s made of chakra nd seemingly other phenomena that don’t occur in our universe. Why would u think the Naruto universe would be destroyed by an object with mass having infinite energy?
this dude cooking meth and i’m here for it
Mahoraga literally adapts to any and all phenomenon
That’s actually not a narrator statement it’s Sukuna saying it so you can argue it has limits
He couldn't adapt to oneshot
@@ThunderGodTG If Guy who treats everyone like sh%t says that as fact it's pretty consistent info.
Especially considering Mahoraga already bodied someone similiar to Gojo in the past, despite Limitless being nigh impossible to deal with.
If Alliance doesn't destroy him fast enough - they're smoked
Naruto : stand proud sukuna I was like you once lost
Please make a video of chaos magic carnage vs fp sukuna
God savesss
Tf was that kage free for all u had in ts that was cold
Sukuna tanked a hollow purple and that’s the same as that atomizer jutsu from the old hokage
Shadow Possession has its reach extended by natural shadows
both would probably die the instant they enter the verse
Kakashi: Nah, I'd Kamui
The problem isn't their domain will work but it's if they have the Intel to counter or would know if it would work it's more about whether or not they would actually use it in that scenario
Great video but goddamn did flame keep talking over tg lmao
Appreciate it and I got no problems with it, I promise you it was just a natural convo and shit usually happens like that among friends
Sukunas domain as active outside of gojos they could make it work if gojo touches Sukuna while Sukuna uses MS on the outside not targeting gojos domain
Question if genjutsu is so OP how were the senju able to deal with it in a war that spanned decades? I literally saw Tobirama just shut his eyes and he was able to counter it
You can beat the Sharingan via a 2 on 1. There are ways to counter it even Chiyo notes it via partnering up and just disrupting chakra flow or chakra flexing out. The Senju having insanely high chakra makes them difficult targets to control + not every uchiha was running around with an MS
Imagine Gojo and Sukuna could Fuse with the potara for this fight!