How Many Vowels Are There Really?

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  • @NameExplain
    @NameExplain  ปีที่แล้ว +32

    What's your favourite vowel? I love me an O.

    • @VCOTABFONDD
      @VCOTABFONDD ปีที่แล้ว +5

      E

    • @SpaceDogGlobalEntertainment
      @SpaceDogGlobalEntertainment ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My favourite is a sometimes vowel: R

    • @VCOTABFONDD
      @VCOTABFONDD ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nvm I like W

    • @davea6314
      @davea6314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favorite is when the word "favorite" is spelled without the offensive vowel "u" as I don't want Noah Webster rolling over in his grave. I am after all a bloody Yank not a Limey. -Dave the Bloody Yank 😜

    • @BeithirBlue
      @BeithirBlue ปีที่แล้ว +1

      W

  • @klikkolee
    @klikkolee ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Defining consonants as requiring the mouth to close is pretty alien to me -- as it excludes almost all of the sounds. The only English sounds that require me to do something I consider closing the mouth are /b/, /m/, /p/, and arguably /f/ and /v/. It doesn't make more sense when I try to squish the definition of a closed mouth. If it means the vocal track being blocked somewhere in the mouth area, then all the fricatives don't meet the definition. If it means moving the jaw upwards, it's literally none of the sounds -- I can position my jaw such that I can make all of the English sounds and all of the non-English sounds I know of without moving my jaw.

    • @terrylambert8149
      @terrylambert8149 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not close the mouth, move the lips.

    • @andifyouwantmetoidlovetoru4870
      @andifyouwantmetoidlovetoru4870 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Actually a consonant is every sound in producing which we force the airflow to meet a hindrance in the mouth OR force the airflow to go through space between organs of articulation which are very close to each other in the moment of producing the sound. At least that's what I was taught at the university.

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@terrylambert8149 I don't have to move my lips to say "go", "can" and "act"

    • @klikkolee
      @klikkolee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@terrylambert8149 /b/, /p/, /v/, /f/, /m/, and /w/ are the only ones that require lip movement from me.

    • @terrylambert8149
      @terrylambert8149 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iantino glottal stops

  • @auldfouter8661
    @auldfouter8661 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There is a short poem in Scots that consists entirely of vowels.
    Oo?
    Aye oo,
    Ae oo?
    Aye ae oo.
    Aw ae oo?
    Aye aw ae oo.
    translates to Wool? Yes wool, One wool? Yes one wool. All one wool?
    Yes all one wool.
    Hehe.

  • @johnwesley2242
    @johnwesley2242 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I really love you’re etymology videos! But I wasn’t super hot about this one. Consonants are not just sounds that are made by closing the mouth, but rather are made by restricting airflow through articulators (teeth, tongue, lips, nose, etc) to create turbulent airflow. With the exception of labial consonants ([b] [p] [f] [v] etc.), you can pronounce pretty much any consonant with your mouth open. By contrast, vowels are made by letting the sound resonate through the mouth without turbulence. The reason that “w” [w] and “y” [j] are considered semi-vowels is not because of how the letters are used, but because they have properties similar to both consonants and vowels. In semi-vowels, articulators DO cause turbulent airflow, but less so than other consonants. The “w” [w] and “y” [j] compare with the vowels “oo” [u] and “ee” [i], but there are other semi-vowels in human languages. In fact, in some dialects of English, most notably Standard American, “r” [ɹ] is also considered a semi-vowel, where the proper vowel is usually spelled like “er” or “ir” [ɚ] or [ɝ]. Also, “h” [h] is not a vowel. The English “H” is usually articulated in the throat by a small organ called the glottis. This can vary by dialect and the surrounding phonetic environment.

  • @jonathannajarejn
    @jonathannajarejn ปีที่แล้ว +56

    NameExplain is become more and more about linguistics and I’m all in for it

    • @se6369
      @se6369 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yet he keeps making mistakes...

    • @cl4655
      @cl4655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its always been about linguistics, etymology specifically

    • @joeybarber5273
      @joeybarber5273 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a nice channel with a lot of educational videos but I really wouldn't rely on it for linguistics. There are a lot of errors and misunderstandings in this video

    • @ph1l69
      @ph1l69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@joeybarber5273Which mistakes did he make?

    • @Kitsu_Worm
      @Kitsu_Worm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@ph1l69consonant definition, some specific sound (namely approximate) is really just way to produce consonant, and sorting vowels that ignore unit of vowels sound (namely monothongs, diphthongs, tripthongs)

  • @modmaker7617
    @modmaker7617 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Polish has 9 vowel graphemes but only 6 vowel phonemes.
    A = AH
    E = EH
    *I = EE
    O = OH
    *U/Ó = OO
    Y = Y in rhythm
    Ą & Ę are O & E respectively followed by a nasal coda.
    *I and U can become consonants. I can become a Y-sound in York as palatalisation if it's after a consonant and before a vowel. U can become a W-sound when in a diphthong.

    • @Maus_Indahaus
      @Maus_Indahaus ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In Serbian we have 5 vowels
      A = AH
      E = EH
      I = EE
      O = OH
      U = OO
      And R can sometimes assume the role of a vowel if it is between consonants, like in the word: Prst (finger)

    • @modmaker7617
      @modmaker7617 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Maus_Indahaus
      How would you pronounce the R vowel?

    • @Maus_Indahaus
      @Maus_Indahaus ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@modmaker7617 Like in Spanish, I think. It's a thrilled R, a vibrating R, or something like that

    • @miksuko
      @miksuko ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@Maus_IndahausI don't think a trilled R can be considered a vowel in any situation.

    • @Maus_Indahaus
      @Maus_Indahaus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@miksuko Then how would you pronounce Prst? We can, and with ease, thanks to thrilled R. If not for that, it would be a word consisting of four consonants, and that doesn't make sense in any language

  • @AllieThePrettyGator
    @AllieThePrettyGator ปีที่แล้ว +77

    To me it was A E I O U and sometimes Y

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It is A, E, I, O, sometimes R, sometimes U, and sometimes, Y. Let's hear the arguments here.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye ปีที่แล้ว

      I can't take this video. "A" doesn't make an Ah sound. Damn British people.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chute doesn't use a long "U" sound. Cute is a more accurate answer.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The lips aren't the only point in the mouth to be closed where sounds are designated to be a consonant.

    • @TheSpiritombsableye
      @TheSpiritombsableye ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be a vowel it doesn't need to be the sole vowel.

  • @_The_Archive_
    @_The_Archive_ ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Is anyone else seeing the word AUTISM in the thumbnail?

  • @joshuakearns1847
    @joshuakearns1847 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Two key vowel sound you missed are
    The ah version of a. Like a in bath in many varieties of English (or like the a cart without the r sound).
    And the schwa vowel, which is lazy version of basically every vowel letter!

  • @Furienna
    @Furienna ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Swedish, we have 9 vowels (or 18 if you consider that all of them come in two different variants): A, E, I, O, U, Y, Å, Ä and Ö.

  • @DragonLandlord
    @DragonLandlord ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Could you do a vid on why Q and X can sometimes be pronounced as K and Z?

  • @HippieVeganJewslim
    @HippieVeganJewslim ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mate, approximants are consonants! The sounds that require the mouth to close are bilabial consonants: /b/, /m/, /p/, and maybe labiodental consonants: /v/ and /f/. To sound the latter two, the bottom lip touches the front teeth; is the mouth closing to make those sounds? C, D, G, H, J, K, L, N, Q, R, S, T, X, Z, Ð, and Þ are consonants that allow the mouth to remain opened.

  • @arthuruppiano3211
    @arthuruppiano3211 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A better definition of a consonant would be a sound produced by restricting air flow in some way, whether that be with your throat, tongue, teeth, lips, or some combination thereof. Also, "vowels" that combine two basic vowel sounds--such as "oi"--are more properly referred to as diphthongs.

  • @joebones23
    @joebones23 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Before diving into a problem I had with this video, I would like to preface this all with the mention that I am a fan of your videos as etymology is a topic that I enjoy learning more about. However, this video genuinely frustrated me at times. In the beginning, I was worried but was relieved when you finally mentioned that letters are not vowels... before you then treated them as such for the rest of the video. The way you're describing English's use of Y as a vowel is incorrect. English uses the letter Y to represent different vowel sounds, most commonly /i/ and /ai/, but not to represent the /j/ sound (the "yuh" sound) like the Welsh do with the letter W being used to represent the /W/ sound. English does use the /j/ /W/ sounds as semi-vowels in diphthongs (semi-diphthongs? Mono-and-a-half-thongs? I need to email my professor) but that is not what you're discribing here.
    One final, parting point. The word wry contains... no semivowels, despite the fact you claim that is the only thing is contains. For completion's sake, it's pronunciation is /ɻaɪ/.
    I want to reiterate this is not a mean-spirited comment, I just don't want the perpetuation of the common misconception that letters and the sounds they represent are one and the same. Thank you.

  • @New_Wave_Nancy
    @New_Wave_Nancy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This was a particularly interesting Name Explain. I learned so much. Thanks, Patrick.

  • @justfrankjustdank2538
    @justfrankjustdank2538 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    note: consonants dont require closing your mouth, they just require a relatively more restricted vocal tract when producing the sound
    also consonant and vowel do refer to the sounds but also the letter lol
    everything else spot on (i think), love ur vids
    edit: also technically w is most of the time distinct in that its a velar approximant as well as a bilabial one but thats more a fun fact i wanna share rather than something that u got wrong lol

    • @oravlaful
      @oravlaful ปีที่แล้ว +4

      his reasoning for H not being a vowel is wrong too, i'm pretty sure

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oravlaful Yep. The reason is that /h/ restrict the glottis.

    • @oravlaful
      @oravlaful ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@iantino H is also voiceless, while vowels are necessarily voiced

    • @justfrankjustdank2538
      @justfrankjustdank2538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@oravlaful yeah that one too oops, thx for adding

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@oravlaful Not necessarily, there is voiced consonants and devoiced vowels, the latter being way unusual, but yet exists.

  • @ronfleetwood944
    @ronfleetwood944 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In Alaska there is an Athabascan language called Dena'ina. I'm Kenaitze Indian and we speak Dena'ina. It used to be called Tanina because of the Russians. But we have done huge restoration projects for our oral language and it's now a written language which means they made an alphabet. And in Dena'ina there are only 4 vowels. Also Dena'ina is part of the Na-dene language family and we have a lot of cognates and shared words with Navajo. I would be thrilled to see a video on indigenous languages.

  • @FebruaryHas30Days
    @FebruaryHas30Days ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Filipino we follow the traditional 5-vowel pattern and also have some diphthongs:
    aw - as in loud
    ay - as in eye
    oy - as in boy
    (There are possibly more but the others are not often used)

  • @ujocdod
    @ujocdod ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Since Y is a full vowel in Swedish I was so confused when trying to learn English! I think we have 17 vowel sounds and 9 vowel letters, but IDK confused myself again trying to count them :)

    • @Furienna
      @Furienna ปีที่แล้ว

      Vi har 9 vokaler, eller 18 om man menar att A, E, I, O, U, Y, Å, Ä och Ö har två varianter var och alla de vatianterna är varsin vokal.

    • @ujocdod
      @ujocdod ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Furienna Jag menade att o kan uttalas på 3 sätt och ett av de sätten är samma som korta å.Och kort ä och e har samma ljud, det var det jag enade med förvirrande :)

  • @mertatakan7591
    @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    H isn't a vowel. In the IPA, it's listed as a consonant (voiceless glottal fricative). It requires the glottis and the larynx coming together. Also if it is a vowel, what's its vowel height, frontness, formants, etc?

  • @thijsbos
    @thijsbos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In Dutch you (sometimes) distinguish between long and short vowels. Names have combinations like aa, oo, ee, but usually not uu or ii for some reason. Though we also have combinations like oe, ui, au, eu, etc

    • @SomasAcademy
      @SomasAcademy ปีที่แล้ว

      We used to do something similar in English, but over time our vowel pronunciation shifted while a lot of spellings remained the same (which is one part of why English spelling is so odd), so double-vowel spellings stopped having that significance.

    • @Olafje
      @Olafje 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The long i is written as ie (this is a remnant of the old Dutch spelling where long vowels were written as the vowel+e) and uu exsists, like in uur, huur, buur, kuur...

    • @thijsbos
      @thijsbos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Olafje damn, how did I miss all the uu words back then? Also interesting on the ie. Didn't know that.

    • @williswameyo5737
      @williswameyo5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We do something similar in Swahili, we double vowels to make them long vowels like aa, ee, ii, oo, uu

  • @Furienna
    @Furienna ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm sorry, but I can't agree that R or L or H are wovels.
    This is how the consonants are divided at least in Swedish:
    Approximants: J, L, R, W
    Nasals: M, N
    Clusiles: B, D, G, K, Q, P, T
    Fricatives: F, H, S, V, Z
    Mixed: C, X

  • @mutantdog.
    @mutantdog. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From the brief time i spent in New Zealand i'm convinced that their approach to vowel usage defies all reason and logic.

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Countries that use the /aeiou/ vowel system:Mapona(Toki Pona),Spanish(Argentina,Colombia,Mexico,Peru,Spain),Japan,Italy,Serbia...

  • @williamswindler105
    @williamswindler105 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually, H isn't phonetically a vowel. Vowels have to be voiced. H isn't.

  • @TheAngryFatMan
    @TheAngryFatMan ปีที่แล้ว

    The only consonants that require you to close your mouth, are labial plosives and fricatives b/f/m/p/v. All other consonants can be made with an open mouth. What distinguishes consonants from vowels is that consonants always require some level of restrictive airflow. Vowels are formed by how you shape the mouth.

  • @Ekami-chan
    @Ekami-chan ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A in Cat is actually Ä sound. :D

    • @Somebodyherefornow
      @Somebodyherefornow ปีที่แล้ว

      its a /æ/ sound
      wtf is ä

    • @Ekami-chan
      @Ekami-chan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Somebodyherefornow looking up æ Wikipedia, it is the sound that Ä letter makes, so yes.

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Somebodyherefornow it's, generally in this context, mostly a transcription of /æ/.

  • @toomanyopinions8353
    @toomanyopinions8353 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This must be an education difference, because anyone who went to school in the USA would include "sometimes Y" in their list of vowels. I cant think of a situation where a psrson wouldnt include Y

  • @demi172
    @demi172 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i think learning ipa would be really useful for these types of videos-

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He really should learn the IPA to understand that h is not a vowel

  • @davea6314
    @davea6314 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My favorite is when the word "favorite" is spelled without the offensive vowel "u" as I don't want Noah Webster rolling over in his grave. I am after all a bloody Yank not a bloody Limey. -Dave the Bloody Yank 😜

  • @williswameyo5737
    @williswameyo5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have five vowels in Swahili phonology - a, e, i , o ,u - vowels can be long by doubling them and w and y are considered sounding like vowels despite being consonants (w and y -nusuvokali), w an y are semi-vowels in Swahili

  • @Ggdivhjkjl
    @Ggdivhjkjl ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm used to this channel making a lot of mistakes but there were so many inaccurate statements in this video I'm wondering if this is intentional disinformation.

  • @Jean-FrancoisBilodeau
    @Jean-FrancoisBilodeau ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vowels are complicated. Patrick mentionned that a number of times in the video. And judging by the number of comment stating that Patrick 'is wrong'--yet bringing up different and often contradicting arguments, I have to agree--vowels are indeed complicated.

  • @timothyodonnell8591
    @timothyodonnell8591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While spoken Hebrew has vowel sounds, written Hebrew has no letters that represent vowels.

  • @karabearcomics
    @karabearcomics ปีที่แล้ว

    I think one thing that also sets H apart is the fact that it's unvoiced. All other sounds you mentioned are voiced, which sets H apart. It's a weird sound, anyways, because it's like the absence of the others. It's unvoiced, open-mouthed, no stops or fricatives or whatever. I would say it's like the number zero, the perennial weird one that doesn't fit anywhere, but we put it in one place almost arbitrarily.

  • @williswameyo5737
    @williswameyo5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like the Swahili word maana which is meaning, the double /a/ is stressed long vowel since that /a/ is doubled, various indigenous languages in Kenya also double vowels to make long vowels

  • @evinr3231
    @evinr3231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    H is not phonetically a vowel; it isn't vocalized.

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is unvoiced vowels. The reason is that H restricts the vocal tract in the glottis.

  • @SWLinPHX
    @SWLinPHX ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't have to close your mouth to sound out most consonants, such as c, s, k, l, r, t, w, y, etc. so that is not a good definition. It's more that, unlike vowels, with consonants your lips touch or your tongue makes contact (with the roof of your mouth, teeth).

  • @DoroNijimaru
    @DoroNijimaru ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:49 you didn't wanna do another take of that? that is surely not the sound in the word cat.
    a sound that the letter 'a' makes for sure, but not in the word 'cat'

  • @kalinkavelinova2529
    @kalinkavelinova2529 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Katsumotonese has seven vowels
    A E Ê I O Ô U
    /a ɛ eɪ i ɔ oʊ u/
    As in car,egg,play,eat,corn,low,too

  • @williswameyo5737
    @williswameyo5737 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Swahili, W and Y is sometimes seen as semi- vowels just like in English - we don't entirely close our mouths when we pronounce them

  • @LaMonicaD
    @LaMonicaD ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a song in the '80s called I.O.U. by Freeez.

  • @dan_asd
    @dan_asd ปีที่แล้ว

    As an portuguese speaker, english vowels+w+y are just out "A E I O U" vowels stacked in a trenchcoat

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vowels in England:Aa,Ae,Ar,Ao,Ee,Ei,Er,Eu,Ih,Oo,Ou,Or,Oi,Uu,Ur...
    Vowels in Spain,Brazil:A,E,I,O,U

  • @angeldude101
    @angeldude101 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you pronounced the name of "R," I noticed that not only did you _not_ pronounce the actual consonant sound /ɹ/, but you _also_ pronounced it entirely as a vowel, and specifically a vowel that appeared nowhere on your list of 15, namely /ɑː/. Your list of 15 seems to be trying to stick too closely with the 5 vowel letters and the "long" and "short" distinction.
    Also, the 5 vowel letters representing the most common vowels in the English language? _The_ most common vowel in the English language is represented but precisely _none of them._
    Dr. Geoff Lindsey has a great video and article describing the vowels in Received Pronunciation, but works surprisingly well even for non-British accents. His system consists of 20 vowels split into 4 categories: short monophthongs, /j/ diphthongs, /w/ diphthongs, and "long vowels," which in rhotic dialects actually (mostly) become the r-colored vowels. Alternatively, you can say that there are only 7 vowels (maybe a couple more), and 3 "modifiers" in a sense: /j/, /w/, and /ɹ/.

  • @auldfouter8661
    @auldfouter8661 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scots has an extra vowel from English l as PAY , HAY and WAY have a different vowel to SAY. That vowel is different to the English one in HIGH too.

  • @0OB08O
    @0OB08O ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a non-native english-speaker it's really weird to me that vowels vary in duration of time instead of just sound.

    • @Bacopa68
      @Bacopa68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adam Neely has a video on Scotch Snaps that's about how vowel length affects how people write music. It's pretty interesting.

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except they kind of _don't._ It's more accurate to say they change based on a following glide. "I" is closer to /aj/, "E" is closer to /ɪj/, "A" is closer to /ej/ (pay no attention to how none of those use their own letter in their pronunciation), "O" is closer to /ow/, and "U" is closer to /uw/. The JOIN and DOWN listed in the "other category" actually belong with these being /oj/ and /aw/ respectively.
      There are some accents that do distinguish by vowel length, but other accents distinguish those sounds by the presence of an "r."

  • @GailGurman
    @GailGurman ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two objections: (1) It may be that in linguistics, vowels are sounds but not letters, but I venture to guess that when most if not all of us learned the alphabet in school, we learned that a, e, i, o, and u were vowels (besides, you can buy a vowel on Wheel of Fortune); (2) I don't know if this is still true, but when I was in school in the 70s, we learned that "cwm" was the only English word that used 'w' as its only vowel. We were taught that "cwm" meant valley and then we never heard the word again. So, as far as I'm concerned, "cwm" is an English word. 😛

  • @Pining_for_the_fjords
    @Pining_for_the_fjords ปีที่แล้ว

    I've never heard of h being described as a vowel before, and I'm pretty sure it isn't one by any definition. A vowel is produced with just the vocal tract, lips and sometimes and tongue, but without restricting the flow of air out the mouth. H is a fricative consonant because it creates sound from friction somewhere in the mouth, in the case of h from the throat. I've heard it before that h is just the sound of normal breathing, but I don't think that's true either. For me at least, it requires a slight tightening of the throat.
    Also, and the main distiction for me, is that all vowels in the vast majority of languages are voiced. (I have heard of unvoiced vowels in some languages, but I've never heard them don't know how they're pronounced. In any case we don't have them in English.) However h is, in the vast majority of cases, an unvoiced sound. A voiced equivalent also exists in some languages, but when I try to pronounce it I have to tighten the throat more than with an unvoiced h, making it sound even less like a vowel.
    I like that this channel is delving into linguistics and phonetics, but things like this will be confusing for people with less knowledge. However I'm not a qualified linguist, and I might be wrong, in which case I'm happy to be corrected.

    • @nordlys-45
      @nordlys-45 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know im 4 months late for this, but! The voiced /h/ your talking about is /ɦ/, which is foten called the "Voiced Glottal Fricative", but it's actually not voiced. Glottal sounds, to my knowledge, cannot be voiced. /h/ and /ɦ/ are both not vowels by any means

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​​@@nordlys-45Yes they can be voiced just like the voiced glottal fricative you mentioned so all you know is wrong and they are not vowels

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    Serbia also has five vowels:aeiou(аеиоу)
    Serbian consonants:bcdfghjklmnprstvz(бцдфгхjклмнпрствз)
    Other letters:ч,ш,ж,ль,нь,s(dz)

  • @aaronodonoghue1791
    @aaronodonoghue1791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The vowel of "turn": Am I a joke to you?
    Also "chute" and "soon" have the same vowel sound

  • @martinsriber7760
    @martinsriber7760 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those are letters. Graphic symbols. Consonants and vowels are sounds.

    • @instrumental32
      @instrumental32 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he literally says that in the video

    • @modmaker7617
      @modmaker7617 ปีที่แล้ว

      Graphemes ≠ Phonemes
      It's a difficult concept for people to grasp.

    • @oravlaful
      @oravlaful ปีที่แล้ว +3

      letters are intrinsically connected to their sounds. so while talking about a certain language, letters might as well be vowels and consonants

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He points it out, but it is actually both, vowels are also a graph sign. It's just that only in some specific context letter vowels are refered without meaning the sound vowels.

    • @martinsriber7760
      @martinsriber7760 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oravlaful Most "vowel letters" in English represent diphthongs by default.

  • @aniksamiurrahman6365
    @aniksamiurrahman6365 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my language, Bangla, Consonant are defined as sounds that is produced when air coming out causes friction with part of our vocal appendage, at least during part of their pronounciation. Volwers are, that come out of the throat without any friction. In that way, L, V, H, C are no way vowels and are definitely consonant. In my language, consonants are also categorized according to the dominant part of the mouth which is required to constrict the air to produce that produce that sound. For example, 'L' is a upper teeth consonant, while 'P' is a leap consonant. Somehow I find this definition and categorization superior to what described in this video. As this is precise and clear cut. Though its old and might need some update, but its still more precise.

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's Bengali not Bangla

    • @aniksamiurrahman6365
      @aniksamiurrahman6365 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mertatakan7591 Bengali is a British corruption. Why ud I call my language in a corrupted British spelling?

  • @lakrids-pibe
    @lakrids-pibe ปีที่แล้ว

    Danish has a lot of vowel sounds. 22 at least. Some estimate it at 40.
    The nine vowels in the Danish/Norwegian alphabet: *a, e, i, o, u, y, æ, ø* & *å.*
    Yes, *y* is a vowel, pure and simple.
    The many vowel sounds is probably one of the reasons it's a difficult language to learn for foreigners. Danes are tuned in to hear the small nuances, where other don't.
    It's basically impossible to explain to native english speakers how the *æ, ø* and *å* are pronounced, not to mention the danish y-vowel.

    • @NBrixH
      @NBrixH ปีที่แล้ว

      In my experience “y” is practically impossible to explain to English speakers. Since the “ü” sound doesn’t exist in English.

  • @wigley7610
    @wigley7610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vowels:AEIOU
    Semivowels:YWRH
    Consanants:BCDÐFGIJKLMNOPQSTUVXZÞ

  • @WGGplant
    @WGGplant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree with your definition of a consonant. I'd define a vowel as "a sound that you make without making a connected articulation in your mouth." a consonant is therefore "something that you need to articulate with your throat, tongue, or lips." These descriptions explain why 'r, l ,w ,y' are still considered vowels or approximates.
    (im only somewhat versed in these topics so i welcome anyone's own opinions on my views. i dont intend for this to come off as a know-it-all comment. I just genuinely like to talk about this stuff and would like to hear other's two cents about this)
    Also, the English "long/short" distinction is completely senseless. In most languages, long and short vowels are made with the same-ish vowel sound but the vowels are actually said longer. The only reason we use the terms "long and short" in English is because English, Francophile scholars wanted to make the language more like french. So they just adopted the term and made up something for them. The actual sounds are pronounced fairly different from each other in english.
    In English, true "long/short" distinctions are made by the consonant that comes after the vowel. For example, "leaf" vs "leave". "leaf" ends in a voiceless fricative and therefore is pronounced shorter than "leave"

  • @beansclox
    @beansclox ปีที่แล้ว +4

    can you please use the IPA

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Finally a good comment

  • @StardustAnlia
    @StardustAnlia 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I consider the short o sound a variant of a. I vary on whether I lump it in with aw. I consider the a in Dad and Dan to be the same even though I pronounce them differently. I think phonetically the long A sound is best represented by ei.

  • @doctorsammy883
    @doctorsammy883 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So why isn’t F N S and V considered vowels? I don’t think you ever close your mouth or stop your air like C in click when pronouncing those? F and V get close but not quite.

    • @Pining_for_the_fjords
      @Pining_for_the_fjords ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He's wrong about the definition of a consonant. The only consonants which require a completely closed mouth are b, p and m. A consonant is rather a sound made by blocking or restricting the flow of air through the mouth, which f, n, s and v all do.

  • @JAIDEVKUMARALMURUGAIAHMoe
    @JAIDEVKUMARALMURUGAIAHMoe 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this channel!!!

  • @AtarahDerek
    @AtarahDerek ปีที่แล้ว

    And then there are the things that other languages do with H.
    Spanish: Doesn't even acknowledge its existence in their words.
    Irish: Yeets lenition at you and runs away.

  • @soapycanthandle
    @soapycanthandle ปีที่แล้ว

    imagine you're talking to a linguist and you're TALKING ABOUT LONG AND SHORT VOWELS LIKE THAT MEANS THE PRONUNCIATION
    "oh no no no there's 15 vowels in English. cuz there's the long and short vowels…"
    "/mia dio/… /ju kant bi fʌkɪŋ siriəs/… /ʍaɪ du ju θɪŋk aɪm ə prəfɛʃn̩l̩ lɪŋgwɪst/?? /aɪ noʊ maɪ ʃɪt ɚaʊnd vaʊl̩z/!"

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    How many vowels does your country have?
    Italy:5!
    Greece:7!
    Finland:8!
    UK:14???

  • @pedromenchik1961
    @pedromenchik1961 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Long vowels like "a", "i", "o" aren’t really single vowels, but rather diphthongs

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And more, close diphthongs, since English "hates" hiatus. So it's a vowel followed by a semi-vowel

    • @TheMrChrisP90
      @TheMrChrisP90 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Diphthongs are two vowels sounds, going from one sound into another one. Long vowels don't involve transitioning to another vowel sound.

    • @pedromenchik1961
      @pedromenchik1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      some of them do. When "a" is pronounced as "ey", those are actually 2 distinct vowel sounds

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@pedromenchik1961 it isn't /aɪ/, an open front unrounded vowel followed by a near-close unrounded.
      It's actually /aj/ an open front unrounded vowel followed by the voiced palatal approximant consonant.

    • @pedromenchik1961
      @pedromenchik1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I get what you're saying. I guess it comes to whether you consider approximants and semi-vowels as distinct sounds or not. Also some of these are accent-dependent

  • @jljljl1820
    @jljljl1820 ปีที่แล้ว

    missed opportunity for the short vowels: Pat (short for Patricia) pet pit pot put

  • @captainyulef5845
    @captainyulef5845 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like /e/, but not /E/ as much.

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      /E/ doesnt exist

  • @seansmith6255
    @seansmith6255 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact:With the top six letters in the thumbnail's ven-diagram, you can spell *AUTISM*

  • @gentjanhasani5955
    @gentjanhasani5955 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are 7 vowls same as nusic notes. A E I O U Y Ë.

  • @ancalyme
    @ancalyme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "consonants are defined by closing your mouth"
    uh I only close my mouth to say b, m and p. That definition sounds wrong.
    I don't close my mouth to sau L, but I can't say "L" on its own without a vowel sound.
    ...I and E need the tongue. "I" pronounced "eee" you have to narrow the throat for it.
    That new definition is absurdly arbitrary compared to the traditional one.

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he meant "stop air flux in the mouth" but it would exclude non-pulmonic and all glottals so…

  • @lostincyberspaceIII
    @lostincyberspaceIII ปีที่แล้ว

    I could see V being included with w I as natural born American only differentiate in the creation by moving my bottom lip to touch my upper teeth instead of my other lip.

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว

      /w/ is a double articulated consonant, it's an approximant that is both labial, so the lips gets close to each other, but don't touch, and velar, so the tongue gets close to the vellum, the soft palate, a part of the mouth way back in the mouth's roof.
      /v/ is just an labiodental approximant, so the bottom lip approaches the teeth.
      They actually consonants, though.

  • @dunkleosteusterrelli
    @dunkleosteusterrelli ปีที่แล้ว

    the “not closing your mouth” analogy is weird and oversimplified
    because really over 90% of sounds would be called vowels or approximants
    really only p, b, m, f, v, and i guess technically s and z would be considered consonants as you could easily pronounce t, d, k, g, etc. without closing your mouth
    approximants are called approximants I'm pretty sure because your tongue doesn't fully touch the place of articulation, iirc, l is referred to a liquid consonant, probably because your tongue does infact touch the articulated place

  • @LuchinoBruttomesso
    @LuchinoBruttomesso ปีที่แล้ว

    If it wasn’t for all the words, i think C might had a chance at being a Vowel since you can tecnically make C sound like “cuh” without closing your mouth

    • @alexanderkelsey202
      @alexanderkelsey202 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Linguist here. I think phrasing it as “closing your mouth” was slightly misleading, really it’s any closure/constriction anywhere in the vocal tract, not just at the lips. With /k/ the airflow is completely stopped and so is definitely a consonant

  • @eliscanfield3913
    @eliscanfield3913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So H is the tomato of English. Not exactly a fruit, and not exactly a vegetable

  • @fabiodandreamatteo4220
    @fabiodandreamatteo4220 ปีที่แล้ว

    in Italian we still have as vowels A E I O U and Y

    • @zidane8452
      @zidane8452 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just like english

  • @kirilvelinov7774
    @kirilvelinov7774 ปีที่แล้ว

    How Argentinians pronounce English vowels😂😂😂
    Cake(kahkay)
    Type(teepay)
    Hope(hohpay)
    These(thaysay)
    Rules(rooless)

  • @robertmiller9735
    @robertmiller9735 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Cwm" is just a different language using the same letters differently (which every language is entitled to do). Of course, they couldn't use a u, as the English would inevitably pronounce it "kyum". But what's wrong with "koom"?

  • @richardshagrin8565
    @richardshagrin8565 ปีที่แล้ว

    What are bowels? Your bowels make up part of your lower digestive tract and consist of your intestines, rectum and anus (bottom). Your rectum is where stools (poo) are stored. Your brain sends messages to your rectum when it is full and needs to be emptied.

  • @michaeldriscoll8537
    @michaeldriscoll8537 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the A in father? Neither long nor short.

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's the short o sound as in hot or cot.

  • @mattoneshitpost
    @mattoneshitpost ปีที่แล้ว

    1:20 littera vocalis pronounced in the most british way

  • @n1hondude
    @n1hondude ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a PHONETIC language speaker, English is just atrocious
    It should follow a bit more the IPA system
    Enough? Enuff
    But if we truly go more phonetic then:
    Cake -> keik

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be "keyk", not?

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And also, English has a lot of varieties so a single transcription more phonetic is very hard to do, just minor tweaks can be done at this stage. They would be great though, I think.

    • @n1hondude
      @n1hondude ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@iantino agreed, many linguists would have to discuss and I’d love to join such a discussion lol
      I wanna get rid of inconsistencies
      American spellings improved in some aspects but forgot others
      Colour -> color 👍
      Programme -> program 👍
      Centre -> Center 👍
      Table -> table ❌ it should be like “tabel” or “tabol”
      Colonel -> cornel, kornel, kernol or kernel
      Etc
      More consistency:
      Flash
      Elephant -> eleFant
      Chaos -> Caos or kaos
      Make “ch” be like in “charm”
      And so on

    • @iantino
      @iantino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@n1hondude I think that would be a pretty hard quest, and I think it's fine having some inconsistencies, either by show etymology or more clearly the radical.
      But there's a bigger problem, for what I know, even transcriptions in some of the most respected and used sources are wrong. Like voiceless consonants being fully mistranscribed after as any consonant cluster beginning with /s/ and a voiceless stop, I'm not aware of this happening through listening, i. e. "discuss" and "disgust" sounding the same. And diphthongs being straight up wrong with two or three vowels together, the "I" sounds to me like /aj/ not /aɪ/ same with all diphthongs traditionally transcribed as two vowels (I'm a non native, so maybe it would affect my perception, although I'm pretty confident about it.)

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iantino You seem to know more about English phonology than most native English speakers. You are correct, "discuss" and "disgust" have the same consonant cluster in the middle (and word-final t's are often dropped of said with a glotal stop). This is because English stops are distinguished more by aspiration than voicing, and are always unvoiced following a /s/. Similarly, it is likely smarter to transcribe the diphthongs with following /j/ and /w/ sounds.

  • @sdspivey
    @sdspivey ปีที่แล้ว

    "Dog" and "hop" are just using the "aah" sound. I don't know anyone outside of the University of Georgia that pronounces it as "dawg".

    • @alexanderkelsey202
      @alexanderkelsey202 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are different in most kinds of British English and some other dialects. RP (more or less standard British) has more back rounded vowels (ɔ and ɒ in the International Phonetic Alphabet) than general American English, which only has unrounded [ɑ], which the others historically fused with. The main phenomenon here is the “cot-caught merger” if you wanted to investigate more, so for an American cot and caught (or dog and hop) usually have the same vowel, but they are distinct in RP and some other dialects.

    • @kirabowie
      @kirabowie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      New Yorker here and I pronounce "dog" as "dawg," and 'HOP' using the "aah" sound. And to use alexanderkelsey202's example, I also "pronounce "cot" using the "aah" sound and "caught" using the "aw" sound. 😆

  • @wigley7610
    @wigley7610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ðere Are 11 Vowels Ðey Are ijɪɛæåøöəʌɑ And åʰ

    • @wigley7610
      @wigley7610 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      væwåʰlz

  • @frankhooper7871
    @frankhooper7871 ปีที่แล้ว

    And just have to say typical northerner as his 15 English vowel sounds omits the southern English 'a' in 'bath' 🙂

  • @shadowwhisperer9687
    @shadowwhisperer9687 ปีที่แล้ว

    In my language, sinhala, y,r,l,w are called semi vowels.

    • @mertatakan7591
      @mertatakan7591 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats wrong because y is a vowel (what you're talkimg about is probably /j/) and /j/ and /w/ are the only ones there that are semivowels.

    • @shadowwhisperer9687
      @shadowwhisperer9687 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mertatakan7591 haha ya probably, we dont use the latin alphabet. ය,ර,ල,ව are called ardha swara or semi vowels in my language. Our alphabets or abugidas what people call it comes like a periodic table. This particular group we call that name.

  • @fabiodandreamatteo4220
    @fabiodandreamatteo4220 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the letter Y is always a vowel

  • @BurningheartofSILVER
    @BurningheartofSILVER 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone else automatically see autism in the thumbnail, or is that just my neurodivergency acting up?

  • @warcrimesarefun
    @warcrimesarefun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well the constanant definition you gave was kinda wrong cuz its acctually if any part of your mouth touches

  • @gianpaologiovannielli8397
    @gianpaologiovannielli8397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have 5 vowels, 16 consonants and 5 that we call them "foreigns" (a.k.a "straniere", and are J K W X Y)

  • @assim2213
    @assim2213 ปีที่แล้ว

    In portuguese a,e,i,o,u, â, ê,ô, á,é,ó, ã,õ

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 ปีที่แล้ว

    And sometimes Y!

  • @tastedifference5672
    @tastedifference5672 ปีที่แล้ว

    (A /E/ Ë /I/ O/U/ Y ) 7 vowels not just of Albanian Language but of all kind humans voice that can produced as a vowel so Whos the mother of Languages😂

  • @terrylambert8149
    @terrylambert8149 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sure you have met a lot of James, but have you ever met a single Jame?

  • @Emperor_Oshron
    @Emperor_Oshron ปีที่แล้ว

    the Caterpillar approves of this video

  • @Username5H0
    @Username5H0 ปีที่แล้ว

    What aboht S though?

  • @mr.beatfan8814
    @mr.beatfan8814 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to buy a vowel

  • @Fetrovsky
    @Fetrovsky ปีที่แล้ว

    H cannot be a vowel because it's not voiced. Etymologically, vowel means vocal or voiced.

  • @oravlaful
    @oravlaful ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your definition of consonants is pretty bad, as mentioned in other comments. consonants require you to articulate, while vowels require you to change the shape of your mouth and have a free path for the flow of air. vowels are timbres, while consonants are noise
    also, H is a basically a puff of air that does not require your voice to be produced, while a vowel is the sound the voice makes when passing freely through a particular mouth shape, that's why H isn't a vowel

  • @anozymous1
    @anozymous1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it kind of ironic that a Brit is using the American English pronunciation guide? 😋

  • @twipameyer1210
    @twipameyer1210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    H is not a phonetic vowel. You shouldn't work with definitions you don't understand.
    The video would have been much better if you engaged yourself with the Sonority Hierarchy. But you never really made the difference between sounds and letters even tho you introduce it at the beginning.

  • @cfgp
    @cfgp ปีที่แล้ว

    1:44 well, unless you're slavic, or caucasian (looking at you georgian!)