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I think this happening because there is no real equality among the sexes in some part of our Western Anglo-American culture, some women just want to be more equal than men, to be these dominatrix goddesses all the time, never depend or even acknowledge any straight biological male companionship at least in our pop culture.
And of course, that's wrong, it should be this way, toxic femininity is just as bad as toxic masculinity, there should always be a balance, the yin and yang. And besides almost all societies in countries that matter as great civilizations were and still are and probably always will be patriarchal from time immemorial.
Yo Adam, you should check out the Road House remake, it just released on Prime. It was better than I expected, silly and kinda schlocky, but in a good way. Conor McGregor's acting is terrible, but so terrible it's hilarious.
The differences between Ripley and Sarah Connor and the awful new “Strong Female Leads” we get today is that the newer characters are just men haters, instead of treating their allies like Ripley treated Hicks and Hudson they treat every single man like Ripley treated the incompetent Gorman or the traitor Burke
Also, both of those women were fully realized people, not one note. They had both skills and flaws. The most glaring problem with the latest generation of "strong female leads" is that they're one note and that note is that they are superior to every man in every way. It's laughably absurd.
A prime example is what they did to Mulan, they changed her from a well rounded character who used her wits to overcome obstacles into a strong female lead who was already more powerful than any man from the beginning.
Sarah Conner is the realest female action hero because she is a mother defending a child. This rings deeply true to human nature and so makes her character way more powerful than generic action female.
My issue is that most of these characters would be considered as*holes or villains if they were male. But since their female it's badass. Like what the hell
Great point and very true. The chick from Dial of Destiny is the perfect example of that, there is nothing likable about her and she's an a@@hole that doesn't even have charisma.
Yes women cant stand it. Theres few things my wife despises more than when the onscreen women just have some kind of chip on their shoulder against men in general. She likes men...she likes me, which just seems crazy. I dont like it when men on screen dislike women in general...but Hollywood understands thats villain behavior, so thats a villain...but ridiculously tells us thats acceptable for a female hero...like we just have to look the other way. I love good female characters in anything. I really just leave the country now...Korea makes some amazing female characters, and I have had little reason to watch much else. Strange...women in some foreign market draw me easy, women from Hollywoods writers repel me and my wife. Dune part II was an exception
it's due to them being mary sues with no weaknesses, complexities, etc. it's boring but also lazy, making it so clear how forced and pandering it is. women also dont want to be treated like we are stupid, like we will like a character just bc she is OP and likes cats.
Yes, I think the real problem is the just the lazy writing - if a movie like Ghostbusters 2016 was any good, nobody would have any qualms about it (except for a minority of legit sexists). If Rey in Star Wars was better-written, more people would appreciate the character. The same is true for any guys in movies as well, but Hollywood seems to be much more focused on shitting out these lazy movies that happen to feature women just for the sake of featuring women. The same is often true for minority characters. When you're only putting certain types of people in a movie just to meet a quota (and often purely for the sake of marketing to that audience), you're doing it wrong, and people will complain. Not because of the type of person being featured, but because the writing is lazy and the movie ends up being shitty (or "meh" at best). And when these movies blatantly mention feminist issues, it just sounds really lame. It would be fine in a movie that's *about* feminism in some way, but not in a random superhero/action movie. People are generally smart, so we don't need that shit stuffed down our throats in order to understand it, so when you do that, it just comes off as really disingenuous and lazy. Not to mention, it's usually all tell and no show - don't just keep telling me how great this female character is, SHOW her doing great things! Show her as an actual person, not just as some talking point. You can have as many women and minority characters in movies as you want, but you have to write them well - write them as actual people and show us their motivations. Show us their development over the course of the story. Make it believable. And give them more than 1 or 2 simple character traits.
@@matthewdekker6064 and that's why Black Panther 1 was a roaring success, it had an actually GOOD story to sink our teeth into. There was no box ticking at all, it was a fully fleshed out movie with complexities and real emotions.
Hollywood is really missing the mark in recent years with DIVERSITY and Gen-Z acts like the world was like the dark ages before they grew up. It's sad that they've been brainwashed into thinking these things. To your point, female leads have been around for decades, and Hollywood used to understand that you didn't have to bash men to empower women. I think most women hate the pandering, I don't know one woman that watched The Marvels, I only know guys that supported it in theaters and most women are not into action movies in general.
I'm bummed if it came off that I think all female-led movies need to be sexualized because that was not the message I was trying to deliver. I was referring to specific franchises like Charlies Angels where that is a staple of the characters.
@@AdamDoesMovies I get it, you don't have to do that with every female character, but I think it's weird that Hollywood doesn't want to make any female characters sexy anymore, every franchise from the past that had a mostly male fans gets bashed as being sexist and has to change. I get that it's a cartoon but April from TMNT went from a smart pretty woman to looking like an overweight lesbian. They didn't change Barbie to make it more male friendly and they went the other way with it in terms of really bashing men.
I'm glad you mentioned 2016 ghostbusters because when they tried to say anyone who didn't like the film was just being sexist... i was "NOPE. Thats it. I'm done!!" Ever since then i don't waste my time watching most the "female lead" films because they're so degrading to men now.
Sara Conner, Ripley, Uma Thurman. As a married man with kids we love to see beautiful women kick ass. The problem is the writing dialog & politics they push in places they don't belong when the viewer just wants to have a good time.
Judging from some of the comments, seems some people either didn't pay attention or missed the part when Adam was talking about John Wick and the hypocrisy regarding the "women can't beat up multiple men" argument in media. Hong Kong cinema has a massive catalogue of hit movies where women beat up a group of men since the 70s.
Beekeeper cost 40 million to make. It made 66 million domestic and 152 million worldwide. I'd say it made its money back. Also: if you're marketing an action movie AGAINST its core audience, which is MEN, you're going to lose. Every single time. And don't forget, they KILLED Danny Ocean in Ocean's 8 so that the woman could then be the best thief in he world. They knew that if Danny was still alive in the background that it would dampen her character. So they somehow kill him offscreen and POOF!, She's the bestest! One thing they need to remember is that if MEN don't come to see the movie then their women won't come either. MEN have wives and girlfriends who they take to the movies with them so for every man you tell that your movie "isn't made for them" you're also losing a woman who is also not going to that movie. Instead of losing one ticket you're really losing two for each man that doesn't go. They have this delusion that women are going to go to the movies without their significant others to see an action movie. They're dead ass wrong about that.
I was watching Cynthia Rothrock movies back in the early 90s. Later on, I checked out her Hong Kong work and some of those fight scenes are insane. I don't need modern day Hollywood folks to convince me to watch women kick ass.
I think more than them just being woman and companies wanting to do woman movies all the time is to compensate cause behind the scenes they are still not treating woman with respect when they claim they have been sexually assaulted or discriminated against. It's easier to do a movie with a woman and say "look we give woman important roles in movies cause we think they are the same" instead of telling men with money who think they can do whatever they want that they can't and need to leave woman alone. It's overcompensating where no one ever said they needed to fix anything
Adam you’ve been killing it for years with your reviews, takes, etc. been a subscriber for several years now. Keep it up! Your channel deserves more exposure but I’m glad you don’t sacrifice your integrity for a broader audience
Almost every job into an action movie. The Accountant, The Outfit (tailor), The Bee Keeper, Premium Rush (a bike messenger/delivery service, The Transporter, Baby Driver, Taxi Driver, Armageddon (oil drillers in space, ) The Equalizer was working in a home depot, Super Mario Bros are plumbers, Spider Man is a freelance photographer and worked at PIZZA TIME. 😅
Problem is nearly every woman is made out to be amazing regardless of who they are. There’s no balance. You can have mediocre women in the story. It’s supposed to be equality, so write them true to life. Some can be amazing, mediocre, sexist, misandrist, etc. They all don’t have to be hyper intelligent, strong, super beings that never do anything wrong. People in general don’t like flawless characters. They like seeing weaknesses and adversity.
You're right about sexuality in females being portrayed as sex symbols. That does appeal to men because men love sexy women. But Hollywood recently has gotten soft and wants to prune all of the sexual Pamela Anderson looking women that we seen in films in the past.
Another horror movie that has a strong female character is Barbara in the 1990 remake to Night of The Living Dead. Yeah Patricia Tallman play’s Barbara in the remake. Her Barbara is the complete opposite of the Barbara in the original movie. Tallman’s Barbara starts out like the original Barbara all scared and running from the zombies coming after her. But yeah she ends up going into survival mode and turns into a strong female character.
Her character is terrible in the remake, she is little different from the modern trope people complain about by the end. The original Barbara is an acceptable reaction to the situation, just as the other people in that house (which includes two women that are nothing like her, that when people complain about the original ignore) are acceptable reactions.
I hate the trope of #strongfemalecharacter especially because movies don't need to do the same in movies with strong male characters, it doesn't get mentioned to sell the movie, so it automatically feels forced. Same with the gaming industry with the "female protagonist", being the only tag on Steam that specifies the gender of the protagonist, when it shouldn't be a marketing argument. In the 90s when I was growing up, we didn't care. We had movies where men and women had different strengths. Like I vividly remember the Jumanji movie and even the side characters, the childhood sweetheart of Robin Williams' character Sarah or the big sister of the two orphans moving into the house where Robin Williams' character used to live in, she defends her brother. It was great without putting the "label", story tellers/screen writers did their goddamn job. Marketing companies of Hollywood are just stuck in Tumblr-land where hashtags are supposedly helping to get views. It's dumb.
The funny thing is that with other "trends" in Hollywood, there's usually a trendsetter film that made a bunch of money. The force Awakens made a lot of money... but does anyone think that set a trend for female action heroes? The strong female lead trope feels like it didn't come from "copycatting" but from outside events like MeToo and Trump's "pussygate".
What really needs to stop is the production of all the childish movies that all of these characters, male and female, are the leads for. Today, you could make something of the quality of The Godfather, and it would tank in cinemas while people complain about having to wait for the next installment of the MCU - and THEN people will say the "wokeness" is somehow the "real problem in cinema".
Never thought I'd see the day that you were so clear cut on the general ruination and removal of the humanity and character in today's female leads. Great video, well done, man. Needs to be said more and heard by all.
Haha. You're on fire with this one! I usually come out of an action film with plans to get fit and ripped (never happens lol) but I've never looked around my house and planned how I would take out intruders. That had me in fits of laughter 🎉😂 Maybe I do need a panic room...
I blame social media like Twitter or X and Facebook. Come to realise these apps are full of the biggest morons, any crappy movie and you’ll see people post comment like, ‘I loved it, men that don’t like it are misogynist blah blah’, when it’s obvious the movie was a complete pile of horse dung.
Very well said, most arguments about this subject on either side just resort to attacking and calling the other side stupid, it's good to see a level-headed and fair argument on why this annoying trend needs to end.
Beekeeper made more money than I think it deserved. It's also a movie that knew what it was. And because it knew what it was it started embracing the cheesiness.
My biggest complaint with the “Strong Female Lead” is that they are completely one note in the opposite direction of what many female leads were in action films of yore (pretty and there to be rescued). I just want my female leads to be complex. They don’t even have to be “likeable” they just need to have some humanity and not be fortune cookie messages on steroids.
A raise of hands if any of you have seen "The Protege" starring Maggie Q, I consider it underrated with a decent story and action hence it being rated R, I enjoyed it.
My Response to Elizabeth Banks' statement about not supporting Female led action movie is this: Junko Fuji Meiko Kaji Etsuko Shiomi Yukari Oshima Yuko Moriyama Angela Mao Cheng Pei Pei Kara Hui Michelle Yeoh Maggie Cheung Anita Mui Lily Li Brigitte Lin Ching Hsia Moon Li Cynthia Khan Cynthia Rothrock Sigorney Weaver Uma Thurman Linda Hamilton Geena Davis And that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I have many many many movie starring these and other women kicking ass and taking names. All of them do what Modern movies don't do, Make them actual characters with strengths and weaknesses, that there is something more to them than what is on the surface. They aren't just the face of whatever cause the writers and Director are interested in pushing.
The problem is no one knows what the who the Marvels is for. Men and boys aren't interested in seeing three girls be superheroes. Women felt that it didn't appeal to them.
Mad props to Angela Bassett and her portrayal of 'Mace' in Strange Days (1995). Way more of a badass than Lenny Nero (Ralph Fiennes), ridiculously toned body, beautiful woman. Best of all, none of it feels forced, like the studio is trying to shove some agenda down our throats. I remember seeing this when I was 12, and 'feeling things' I'd never felt about a girl before.
I do not watch movies just for good looking women. Also, I watch more emotional movies on top of the action movies I see. For example, in February I watched the Notebook. Arguably the best movie I've seen this year. Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams were both amazing in the movie. There is so much more that entices me to watch a movie than if the actors are sexy.
There are people going off right now saying that the new Star Wars series The Acolyte hates men--- because the trailer has no 'heroic' white males in it.
Love seeing that Kristen Bell praise! Such an underrated actress! I'd honestly even say Anna in the Frozen movies, specifically the 2nd one, is one of the better strong female characters in recent years.
Come on. Without strong female lead movies I won’t have the joy of scrolling through suggested videos where dudes look constipated in their thumbnails. Alternatively - thumbnails of actresses looking angry - bonus points if they have laser beams coming out of their eyes. It’s the only way I can get off anymore.
We can count SISU as another John Wick and probably even better then some John Wick films I absolutely loved SISU his backstory was unbelievable and his character amazing.
Like you said this is nothing new. So many years ago Xena: Warrior Princess. Never stop saying strrrroonggg female leads! I still laugh every time. Lol.
Woman have dominated horror movies for a while now, so much so there's a trope called "The Final Girl". You can pretty much name any famous horror movie and the lead is most likely female.
They have to be better written. Honestly the beekeeper shouldn’t have made more than $100. But the genre has a core group that will see that type of film no matter what - The Marvels though? Probably not.
its sad and it was a phrase you coinded, I always thought it was trolling from your end but now the troll has gotten loose and we can't seem to find a strong FEAMLE LEADDDDDDDD to put it back in the CAGE.
I don't think it's that fans had an issue with strong female lead, as much as they had an issue with gender swapping men for women and crapping on men for not accepting it. They also tended to make every man look bad in those movies. Some of them were Mary Sues, but even when they weren't you could see the agenda. I used to be fine with female leads up until around Ghostbusters 2016. People wanted a Ghostbusters 3 with the surviving cast and instead we got an SNL gender swap skit. When fans criticized it they decided to go to war with fans. Now I'm suspect of everything they do.
Maybe I'm alone or I got it all wrong somehow … but I love how 'Jolt' apparently tried to be woke a.f., but Kate Beckinsale's and Stanley Tucci's performances were so good and nuanced, that they managed to break the agenda. My point is, that Kate Beckinsale's character is the great version of a strong female action badass within a bad version of a strong female action movie, which makes 'Jolt' kind of unique. Never heard anyone comment on that movie. Would be interested in what others think. Awesome rant by the way! 100% spot on.
I have never had a problem with a strong female lead a matter of fact never give it much thought it was just a badass character that happened to be a female so🤷🏾♂️ but nowadays they have to disrespect and degrade men to build up the strong female lead and the ginger swap, the bait and switch ,let's make her gay it's all pathetic 👎🏽
I am all for bad ass hot women leads. Breaks the trope of generic male lead. I mean, how many Chris actors are there ? They basically have all the same traits
I love female leads - Ripley, Sarah Connor , etc. What I liked about them is they were FLAWED and embraced that. They were able to overcome their flaws. Today the women are presented as invincible and perfect. No one can relate to that and it comes across as insecurity being shown on screen. Even if it is a fantasy’s film there needs to be some semblance of humanity. Humans are flawed.
Even argyle which wasnt a great film had a pretty good female lead. She played the naive writer,, evil villain, and good spy. But what it didnt have was 'cos I'm a WOMAN!' or 'MEN ARE BAD' nonsense That is to say a film doesnt even have to be good to avoid the female lead problem of late. It just has to avoid the misanthropic sexist bullshit
Problem with these recent strong female leads is just that. Strong female lead is pretty much all they are. Nothing else. They tend to bring down men to rise the strong female lead up because the character is paper thin in characteristics and they for some reason don't want to make them vulnerable in some way, so perfect in everything.
Strong female leads doesn’t need a character arc. They are perfect in every way. So then what exactly is the point of making a movie with a strong female lead? Also in these movies men are always always the weak ones that need help, never the female.
But they are purposefully writing the scripts with "strong female leads" to make a point rather than a fun or interesting story. Really if they were clever they would just take dumb action scripts intended for men and replace with women.
Adam big fan here was wondering if you still have your cars 3 video up been tryin to look for it I remember watching it years ago and been wanting to rewatch it for laughs!
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Definitely better than the last time you tried to do this! Kudos! 👏👏👏👏
I think this happening because there is no real equality among the sexes in some part of our Western Anglo-American culture, some women just want to be more equal than men, to be these dominatrix goddesses all the time, never depend or even acknowledge any straight biological male companionship at least in our pop culture.
And of course, that's wrong, it should be this way, toxic femininity is just as bad as toxic masculinity, there should always be a balance, the yin and yang. And besides almost all societies in countries that matter as great civilizations were and still are and probably always will be patriarchal from time immemorial.
Yo Adam, you should check out the Road House remake, it just released on Prime. It was better than I expected, silly and kinda schlocky, but in a good way. Conor McGregor's acting is terrible, but so terrible it's hilarious.
Honestly…
*It’s about time.*
Morbin time?
It’s webbin time?
Clobbering time? Vader time?
it's about Morbin Time
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(It's about time)
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The differences between Ripley and Sarah Connor and the awful new “Strong Female Leads” we get today is that the newer characters are just men haters, instead of treating their allies like Ripley treated Hicks and Hudson they treat every single man like Ripley treated the incompetent Gorman or the traitor Burke
Also, both of those women were fully realized people, not one note. They had both skills and flaws. The most glaring problem with the latest generation of "strong female leads" is that they're one note and that note is that they are superior to every man in every way. It's laughably absurd.
A prime example is what they did to Mulan, they changed her from a well rounded character who used her wits to overcome obstacles into a strong female lead who was already more powerful than any man from the beginning.
Sarah Conner is the realest female action hero because she is a mother defending a child. This rings deeply true to human nature and so makes her character way more powerful than generic action female.
@@vanillajack5925she was also motivated by family and loyalty to family.
Every goes on about Ripley and sarah connor..What about Cynthia Rothrock..She was the lead in dozens if action flicks
My issue is that most of these characters would be considered as*holes or villains if they were male. But since their female it's badass. Like what the hell
Morality is just like the patriarchy man!
Great point and very true. The chick from Dial of Destiny is the perfect example of that, there is nothing likable about her and she's an a@@hole that doesn't even have charisma.
Love your input, Adam! I, myself, just want Hollywood to stop "re-making/re-imagining" movies!
Agreed!!!! 💪💫
It will probably come to a halt for a bit after the Marvels and Madame Web box office results. Hollywood needs to learn how to read the room.
Yes women cant stand it.
Theres few things my wife despises more than when the onscreen women just have some kind of chip on their shoulder against men in general. She likes men...she likes me, which just seems crazy.
I dont like it when men on screen dislike women in general...but Hollywood understands thats villain behavior, so thats a villain...but ridiculously tells us thats acceptable for a female hero...like we just have to look the other way.
I love good female characters in anything. I really just leave the country now...Korea makes some amazing female characters, and I have had little reason to watch much else. Strange...women in some foreign market draw me easy, women from Hollywoods writers repel me and my wife.
Dune part II was an exception
Agreed!! Great post
it's due to them being mary sues with no weaknesses, complexities, etc. it's boring but also lazy, making it so clear how forced and pandering it is. women also dont want to be treated like we are stupid, like we will like a character just bc she is OP and likes cats.
Yes, I think the real problem is the just the lazy writing - if a movie like Ghostbusters 2016 was any good, nobody would have any qualms about it (except for a minority of legit sexists). If Rey in Star Wars was better-written, more people would appreciate the character. The same is true for any guys in movies as well, but Hollywood seems to be much more focused on shitting out these lazy movies that happen to feature women just for the sake of featuring women. The same is often true for minority characters.
When you're only putting certain types of people in a movie just to meet a quota (and often purely for the sake of marketing to that audience), you're doing it wrong, and people will complain. Not because of the type of person being featured, but because the writing is lazy and the movie ends up being shitty (or "meh" at best). And when these movies blatantly mention feminist issues, it just sounds really lame. It would be fine in a movie that's *about* feminism in some way, but not in a random superhero/action movie. People are generally smart, so we don't need that shit stuffed down our throats in order to understand it, so when you do that, it just comes off as really disingenuous and lazy. Not to mention, it's usually all tell and no show - don't just keep telling me how great this female character is, SHOW her doing great things! Show her as an actual person, not just as some talking point.
You can have as many women and minority characters in movies as you want, but you have to write them well - write them as actual people and show us their motivations. Show us their development over the course of the story. Make it believable. And give them more than 1 or 2 simple character traits.
@@matthewdekker6064 and that's why Black Panther 1 was a roaring success, it had an actually GOOD story to sink our teeth into. There was no box ticking at all, it was a fully fleshed out movie with complexities and real emotions.
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Hollywood is really missing the mark in recent years with DIVERSITY and Gen-Z acts like the world was like the dark ages before they grew up. It's sad that they've been brainwashed into thinking these things. To your point, female leads have been around for decades, and Hollywood used to understand that you didn't have to bash men to empower women. I think most women hate the pandering, I don't know one woman that watched The Marvels, I only know guys that supported it in theaters and most women are not into action movies in general.
I'm bummed if it came off that I think all female-led movies need to be sexualized because that was not the message I was trying to deliver. I was referring to specific franchises like Charlies Angels where that is a staple of the characters.
@@AdamDoesMovies I get it, you don't have to do that with every female character, but I think it's weird that Hollywood doesn't want to make any female characters sexy anymore, every franchise from the past that had a mostly male fans gets bashed as being sexist and has to change. I get that it's a cartoon but April from TMNT went from a smart pretty woman to looking like an overweight lesbian. They didn't change Barbie to make it more male friendly and they went the other way with it in terms of really bashing men.
@@Mickey-1994agree. Hit the nail on the head in fact.
@@Mickey-1994 but why would you want April, a teen in the Mutant Mayhem movie, to look pretty?
@@joshuacrisanto7419 Why not?
I'm glad you mentioned 2016 ghostbusters because when they tried to say anyone who didn't like the film was just being sexist... i was "NOPE. Thats it. I'm done!!"
Ever since then i don't waste my time watching most the "female lead" films because they're so degrading to men now.
Nobody said that, stop being silly.
@meciocio gaslight 😅
@@meciocio When that movie came out, I worked with a bunch of hyper progressives who literally said you were 'alt right" if you didn't like it.
@@harvesterofstorms4932 no you didn't
@@meciocio Well then, you got me. You must be hiding in my closet right now. 0_0
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Sara Conner, Ripley, Uma Thurman. As a married man with kids we love to see beautiful women kick ass. The problem is the writing dialog & politics they push in places they don't belong when the viewer just wants to have a good time.
I was done when She Hulk lawyer kicks Hulks butt… and and then there’s Natalie Portman scientist beats up Thor SO OVER!!
i hope this is sarcasm cuz when did those happen 😂
@@joshuacrisanto7419 for the hulk thing, In the she hulk tv series on disney plus and thor was in thor love and thunder
It's Portwoman
Judging from some of the comments, seems some people either didn't pay attention or missed the part when Adam was talking about John Wick and the hypocrisy regarding the "women can't beat up multiple men" argument in media. Hong Kong cinema has a massive catalogue of hit movies where women beat up a group of men since the 70s.
Beekeeper cost 40 million to make. It made 66 million domestic and 152 million worldwide. I'd say it made its money back.
Also: if you're marketing an action movie AGAINST its core audience, which is MEN, you're going to lose. Every single time.
And don't forget, they KILLED Danny Ocean in Ocean's 8 so that the woman could then be the best thief in he world. They knew that if Danny was still alive in the background that it would dampen her character. So they somehow kill him offscreen and POOF!, She's the bestest!
One thing they need to remember is that if MEN don't come to see the movie then their women won't come either. MEN have wives and girlfriends who they take to the movies with them so for every man you tell that your movie "isn't made for them" you're also losing a woman who is also not going to that movie. Instead of losing one ticket you're really losing two for each man that doesn't go. They have this delusion that women are going to go to the movies without their significant others to see an action movie. They're dead ass wrong about that.
I was watching Cynthia Rothrock movies back in the early 90s. Later on, I checked out her Hong Kong work and some of those fight scenes are insane. I don't need modern day Hollywood folks to convince me to watch women kick ass.
Did u hear about the new Red Sonja movie? They said they're making it NOT for the male gaze. Like wtf? She's supposed to be hot 😢
That's gonna be one huge stinker.
I think more than them just being woman and companies wanting to do woman movies all the time is to compensate cause behind the scenes they are still not treating woman with respect when they claim they have been sexually assaulted or discriminated against. It's easier to do a movie with a woman and say "look we give woman important roles in movies cause we think they are the same" instead of telling men with money who think they can do whatever they want that they can't and need to leave woman alone. It's overcompensating where no one ever said they needed to fix anything
I FREAKING DIED AND LAUGHED AT THE Mr Ballin sattire like intro LOL your comedy is underrated
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Adam you’ve been killing it for years with your reviews, takes, etc. been a subscriber for several years now. Keep it up! Your channel deserves more exposure but I’m glad you don’t sacrifice your integrity for a broader audience
Agreed!
Thank God somebody brings up Gina Davis. Charlie Baltimore was a. boss. Not a girl boss. Not a boy boss. She was a boss.
Almost every job into an action movie. The Accountant, The Outfit (tailor), The Bee Keeper, Premium Rush (a bike messenger/delivery service, The Transporter, Baby Driver, Taxi Driver, Armageddon (oil drillers in space, ) The Equalizer was working in a home depot, Super Mario Bros are plumbers, Spider Man is a freelance photographer and worked at PIZZA TIME. 😅
Problem is nearly every woman is made out to be amazing regardless of who they are. There’s no balance.
You can have mediocre women in the story. It’s supposed to be equality, so write them true to life. Some can be amazing, mediocre, sexist, misandrist, etc. They all don’t have to be hyper intelligent, strong, super beings that never do anything wrong.
People in general don’t like flawless characters. They like seeing weaknesses and adversity.
You're right about sexuality in females being portrayed as sex symbols. That does appeal to men because men love sexy women. But Hollywood recently has gotten soft and wants to prune all of the sexual Pamela Anderson looking women that we seen in films in the past.
Another horror movie that has a strong female character is Barbara in the 1990 remake to Night of The Living Dead. Yeah Patricia Tallman play’s Barbara in the remake. Her Barbara is the complete opposite of the Barbara in the original movie. Tallman’s Barbara starts out like the original Barbara all scared and running from the zombies coming after her. But yeah she ends up going into survival mode and turns into a strong female character.
Her character is terrible in the remake, she is little different from the modern trope people complain about by the end. The original Barbara is an acceptable reaction to the situation, just as the other people in that house (which includes two women that are nothing like her, that when people complain about the original ignore) are acceptable reactions.
I hate the trope of #strongfemalecharacter especially because movies don't need to do the same in movies with strong male characters, it doesn't get mentioned to sell the movie, so it automatically feels forced. Same with the gaming industry with the "female protagonist", being the only tag on Steam that specifies the gender of the protagonist, when it shouldn't be a marketing argument. In the 90s when I was growing up, we didn't care. We had movies where men and women had different strengths. Like I vividly remember the Jumanji movie and even the side characters, the childhood sweetheart of Robin Williams' character Sarah or the big sister of the two orphans moving into the house where Robin Williams' character used to live in, she defends her brother. It was great without putting the "label", story tellers/screen writers did their goddamn job.
Marketing companies of Hollywood are just stuck in Tumblr-land where hashtags are supposedly helping to get views. It's dumb.
*the big sister out of the two orphans. (Haven't seen the movie in a while, it's a good watch though)
Parrish! Alan Parrish was Robin Williams' character, but I don't remember the kids' names.
The funny thing is that with other "trends" in Hollywood, there's usually a trendsetter film that made a bunch of money.
The force Awakens made a lot of money... but does anyone think that set a trend for female action heroes?
The strong female lead trope feels like it didn't come from "copycatting" but from outside events like MeToo and Trump's "pussygate".
Well said once again. It’s really getting out of control.
What really needs to stop is the production of all the childish movies that all of these characters, male and female, are the leads for. Today, you could make something of the quality of The Godfather, and it would tank in cinemas while people complain about having to wait for the next installment of the MCU - and THEN people will say the "wokeness" is somehow the "real problem in cinema".
If Hollyweirdos could listen to one voice that could change things, it's our man Adam
Excellent rant. But you forgot to mention the real reason for all these Strong Female Leads: .... It's about time.
Never thought I'd see the day that you were so clear cut on the general ruination and removal of the humanity and character in today's female leads. Great video, well done, man. Needs to be said more and heard by all.
I’m loving these topic videos man, people on TH-cam don’t do this enough keep em coming bro!!
Haha. You're on fire with this one! I usually come out of an action film with plans to get fit and ripped (never happens lol) but I've never looked around my house and planned how I would take out intruders. That had me in fits of laughter 🎉😂 Maybe I do need a panic room...
Thats literally what they are doing, checking as many boxes as possible...and it sux...
I guess Hollywood forgot about Sigourney Weaver.
Looking forward to Sonic 3! No forced female leads/general wokeness. Just action and fun times with Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow and Jim Carrey.
It’s a video game movie though…
Modern feminism destroys cinema
I blame social media like Twitter or X and Facebook. Come to realise these apps are full of the biggest morons, any crappy movie and you’ll see people post comment like, ‘I loved it, men that don’t like it are misogynist blah blah’, when it’s obvious the movie was a complete pile of horse dung.
If I could make everyone in the world watch a video, it would be this one. On point, respectful and funny, dude.Great work. And yeah, it needs to stop
If Themla & Lousie was made today, no way is the ending the same.
Very well said, most arguments about this subject on either side just resort to attacking and calling the other side stupid, it's good to see a level-headed and fair argument on why this annoying trend needs to end.
13:30 They did the same in Fury Road but people didn't care cause the movie was a spectacle.
guess can be said about strong male lead films pandering as well
lol pretty sure that's the first time I've ever heard neo used as a verb
5 decades for Jamie Lee Curtis.
Only here to hear the "strongggggg femaleeeee leadssss!!!!!!!!!!...............its about time"
Beekeeper made more money than I think it deserved. It's also a movie that knew what it was. And because it knew what it was it started embracing the cheesiness.
My biggest complaint with the “Strong Female Lead” is that they are completely one note in the opposite direction of what many female leads were in action films of yore (pretty and there to be rescued). I just want my female leads to be complex. They don’t even have to be “likeable” they just need to have some humanity and not be fortune cookie messages on steroids.
A raise of hands if any of you have seen "The Protege" starring Maggie Q, I consider it underrated with a decent story and action hence it being rated R, I enjoyed it.
Watch the Alien Romulus Trailer
My Response to Elizabeth Banks' statement about not supporting Female led action movie is this:
Junko Fuji
Meiko Kaji
Etsuko Shiomi
Yukari Oshima
Yuko Moriyama
Angela Mao
Cheng Pei Pei
Kara Hui
Michelle Yeoh
Maggie Cheung
Anita Mui
Lily Li
Brigitte Lin Ching Hsia
Moon Li
Cynthia Khan
Cynthia Rothrock
Sigorney Weaver
Uma Thurman
Linda Hamilton
Geena Davis
And that's just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I have many many many movie starring these and other women kicking ass and taking names. All of them do what Modern movies don't do, Make them actual characters with strengths and weaknesses, that there is something more to them than what is on the surface. They aren't just the face of whatever cause the writers and Director are interested in pushing.
The problem is no one knows what the who the Marvels is for. Men and boys aren't interested in seeing three girls be superheroes. Women felt that it didn't appeal to them.
6:35 "And now thats the only way I can get off now"
Everyone talks Ripley and Sarah Connor..No one talks about Cynthia Rothrock..She did dozens of action flicks..
My guy hasn't seen Mike Tyson training. He should be about Keanu Reeves's age
Mad props to Angela Bassett and her portrayal of 'Mace' in Strange Days (1995). Way more of a badass than Lenny Nero (Ralph Fiennes), ridiculously toned body, beautiful woman. Best of all, none of it feels forced, like the studio is trying to shove some agenda down our throats. I remember seeing this when I was 12, and 'feeling things' I'd never felt about a girl before.
Its not just you! Its not just you! 😔
I do not watch movies just for good looking women. Also, I watch more emotional movies on top of the action movies I see. For example, in February I watched the Notebook. Arguably the best movie I've seen this year. Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams were both amazing in the movie. There is so much more that entices me to watch a movie than if the actors are sexy.
Keanu is exactly 60 later this year.
Holding up well.
There are people going off right now saying that the new Star Wars series The Acolyte hates men--- because the trailer has no 'heroic' white males in it.
The problem with Charlies Angels is that Kristen Stewert couldnt save the film her co stars were awful and couldnt act for shit
Prey was good, Hopefully Alien Romulus is just as good.
Strong female leads are fine strong female heroes are fine just knock it off with the propaganda and tell good stories.
Love seeing that Kristen Bell praise! Such an underrated actress! I'd honestly even say Anna in the Frozen movies, specifically the 2nd one, is one of the better strong female characters in recent years.
It’s the WNBA conundrum
Come on. Without strong female lead movies I won’t have the joy of scrolling through suggested videos where dudes look constipated in their thumbnails.
Alternatively - thumbnails of actresses looking angry - bonus points if they have laser beams coming out of their eyes. It’s the only way I can get off anymore.
Yo those action movie sound effects were lit!!!
We can count SISU as another John Wick and probably even better then some John Wick films I absolutely loved SISU his backstory was unbelievable and his character amazing.
I have to admit that I love the film Beekeeper 😂😂 I feel bad now
Could not agree more! I do mont mind a female lead movie as long as it is a good movie, and not just about promoting an agenda.
Like you said this is nothing new. So many years ago Xena: Warrior Princess. Never stop saying strrrroonggg female leads! I still laugh every time. Lol.
Liberal arts these people just don’t have any talent. The most you can say, is that their failures have a very particular taste to them
Annihilation is one of the best science horror movies, with a all female cast where were all the social warriors for that movie
Great flick!
Woman have dominated horror movies for a while now, so much so there's a trope called "The Final Girl".
You can pretty much name any famous horror movie and the lead is most likely female.
He’s so close, so close…
I do agree with you. But i went to the Taylor Swift concert movie never having heard her music… I left a Swifty. It was pretty incredible.
I went with my daughter and buddy. We all had a great time!
They have to be better written. Honestly the beekeeper shouldn’t have made more than $100. But the genre has a core group that will see that type of film no matter what - The Marvels though? Probably not.
its sad and it was a phrase you coinded, I always thought it was trolling from your end but now the troll has gotten loose and we can't seem to find a strong FEAMLE LEADDDDDDDD to put it back in the CAGE.
I don't think it's that fans had an issue with strong female lead, as much as they had an issue with gender swapping men for women and crapping on men for not accepting it. They also tended to make every man look bad in those movies. Some of them were Mary Sues, but even when they weren't you could see the agenda. I used to be fine with female leads up until around Ghostbusters 2016. People wanted a Ghostbusters 3 with the surviving cast and instead we got an SNL gender swap skit. When fans criticized it they decided to go to war with fans. Now I'm suspect of everything they do.
Cynthia Rothrock is another great female action star from the 80's/90's that doesn't get mentioned
Maybe I'm alone or I got it all wrong somehow … but I love how 'Jolt' apparently tried to be woke a.f., but Kate Beckinsale's and Stanley Tucci's performances were so good and nuanced, that they managed to break the agenda. My point is, that Kate Beckinsale's character is the great version of a strong female action badass within a bad version of a strong female action movie, which makes 'Jolt' kind of unique.
Never heard anyone comment on that movie. Would be interested in what others think.
Awesome rant by the way! 100% spot on.
I have never had a problem with a strong female lead a matter of fact never give it much thought it was just a badass character that happened to be a female so🤷🏾♂️ but nowadays they have to disrespect and degrade men to build up the strong female lead and the ginger swap, the bait and switch ,let's make her gay it's all pathetic 👎🏽
Well put chum! Way better and funnier than that other channel with the strong female lead whom always gets Stuck, man.
I’m not a fan of Captain Marvel. I thought the main character didn’t have much personality. Wonder Woman was way better.
I am all for bad ass hot women leads. Breaks the trope of generic male lead. I mean, how many Chris actors are there ? They basically have all the same traits
The male trope won't change because they make money. Again, look how stupid The Beekeeper was!
Bring back female characters in film!
I love female leads - Ripley, Sarah Connor , etc. What I liked about them is they were FLAWED and embraced that. They were able to overcome their flaws.
Today the women are presented as invincible and perfect. No one can relate to that and it comes across as insecurity being shown on screen.
Even if it is a fantasy’s film there needs to be some semblance of humanity. Humans are flawed.
I watch Kill Bill and I loved it. If I see a strong female lead in new movies, I will not watch it. Love your analysis:)
Even argyle which wasnt a great film had a pretty good female lead. She played the naive writer,, evil villain, and good spy. But what it didnt have was 'cos I'm a WOMAN!' or 'MEN ARE BAD' nonsense
That is to say a film doesnt even have to be good to avoid the female lead problem of late. It just has to avoid the misanthropic sexist bullshit
Problem with these recent strong female leads is just that. Strong female lead is pretty much all they are. Nothing else. They tend to bring down men to rise the strong female lead up because the character is paper thin in characteristics and they for some reason don't want to make them vulnerable in some way, so perfect in everything.
Beekeeper was AWESOME haha so many bee puns and so many Jason Statham punches
Strong female leads doesn’t need a character arc. They are perfect in every way. So then what exactly is the point of making a movie with a strong female lead? Also in these movies men are always always the weak ones that need help, never the female.
Don't blame the lead roles...blame the scripts. If you replace the lead roles with a male actors...it still sucks.
But they are purposefully writing the scripts with "strong female leads" to make a point rather than a fun or interesting story. Really if they were clever they would just take dumb action scripts intended for men and replace with women.
It is amazing how fast I smashed that like button
Yes. Bring back the MALE strong leads...Pllllllleeeeeeeeaaaaassssseeeeee!
Adam big fan here was wondering if you still have your cars 3 video up been tryin to look for it I remember watching it years ago and been wanting to rewatch it for laughs!