In the many years I’ve been participating in triathlon, I have to say, that for me, swimming is one of the best ways to prevent injury in cycling and running.
@@99cya Swimming is a no impact activity that elevates your HR. Nothing to substantiate this, but I feel like swimming reduces inflammation by getting your heart rate up without all the stress on your legs that cycling and particularly running cause. All I can tell you is, for me, when I swim less, my running and cycling suffer and my injury rate almost always increases.
Good stuff. Could you do a show on some of the less utilized supplemental training for each discipline? Pull band for swimming, strength training for cycling and plyometrics, sprinting and drills for running.
I used to swim 3x a week. As an ex swimmer I put more energy and time into the bike and run training. Usually 3km max 4. But focused on intensity due to the overall low volume. Also helps that I'm a swim caoch so I made my own sessions.
It's not only how often, but for how long you keep that training plan. Swim gains are slowest compared to running and cycling. 4x/week on a bike will pay off in few weeks. 4x/week in the swim will pay off in years.
I agree in all what you said here in the video. I live in north of Sweden. I start my ow season in the middle of may but it’s pretty cold than 12-13+ C. October to mars I swim this season 3-4 workouts between 1500 m -4000 m, in the pool , unfortunately just once per week with coach. Last season I was swimming 5 times/week , was training for qualifying for Kona. I worked less last year to be able to rest more and train more. Swimming gives a lot to bicycle and running. My VO2 will be better after hard work in the pool. I bike and run better after hard intervals and series in the pool. Nice video as usual
Yes 😇I qualified in Kalmar and been to Kona October last year. I did my strongest IM in Kona, not fastest. I did my best swim in Kona same time as in Kalmar without wetsuit. The first IM I felt stronger the last 10 k in the running than in first 10 k. Bicycle is my strongest part but Kona has much tougher course than Kalmar. I took 18 positions in the bike in Kona. I’m very happy for that race. Kalmar is best but Kona was really one special race.
I'm not swimming for a triathlon, just physical fitness and conditioning. I started a little over a year ago with 12 lengths, 300m, and now I'm at 30 lengths, 750m. A few months after I started I felt like I was getting fatter. Similar to how humans feel when they commence puberty. Now I am starting to see results such as muscle definition and more strength.
Because the lake I live by is frozen 9 months of the year I must travel 1.5 hours to the pool. Cost is a factor so I spend at least 1.5 hours in the pool. I focus on technique but also endurance and I do at least twice a week. In summer it is easy for me to jump in lake about 4 times a week for smaller duration. My biggest issue is anxiety with group swimmers so you can see the start of a triathlon is troublesome for me. I'm trying to get back to my motor cross days thinking when all be damned and just run over people in front but that has disappeared.
indeed its never exactly 45min... most of the time one spend on travel + shower + etc... it's usually smarter to make session longer if one can sustain
Would be interesting to divide the weekly hours one has for training between the 3 disciplines, and find out which formula will give you the best finish time. For me more time on the bike and run gives me faster times for these disciplines, however more swim time only results in very marginal gains.
i in fact used 2 do swim 5x/wk, 4km per session, still aspiring 2 do that simply bec i enjoy it. Also, its impossible 2 run 5x/wk, 1s body needs recovery time from a run
Swimmer only, but some old sayings about general conditioning. Over 3 days without training, and you lose conditioning. For every day past that, you will need 2 days to get back to where you were. So, if you only swim once a week, you are losing conditioning, and it will take maybe 2 weeks to get that conditioning back. Since I am 'older' like 73, it seems to take me longer than that.
Depends on what you mean by 'training correctly'. You will lose the aerobic capacity if you lay off much, and swimming is a whole different game than running or cycling.
After thinking about this for a bit, I think I will agree with Phelps. Most triathlon people are not swimmers first, except for Lucy Charles Barkley. Most come from a running and/or biking back ground. There are so many subtleties in swimming that you lose if you don't practice enough. Once a week is not even maintaining. I am a swimmer only, but tune in here because I seek many different swimming instructions to figure out what works best for me. Maybe you can get away with once a week. Maybe not.
Seems to me you should have all done the different options and measured results. Should also include travel and change time as well as swim time in how to optimize say 3 hours per week.
i swim two times a week around 3K one with intervals, one with technique/duration. Is that enough for a 70.3? im now a half year in triatlon (havent raced yet) and gonna do a 70.3 in 8 months and some 1/4 in between.
i did norseman with 23 min a week swimming. I was around 170 out of the water. Then had around the 115 best bike split. Then after T2 i was almost exactly in the same place as the bike split. The swin didnt make any difference to my placing. As long as you can survive ++ you are good to go in my eyes when you are in my category. The time spent in the pool will pay of much more spent on a bike or running. One year i tried swimming alot more and used 10 min less on the ironman swim. Not worth it if you have to prioritize time
thats exactly my thinking. just get through the swimming. there is so much more potential to lose time afterwards. one can easily swim 10min slower. wont make a difference as long as your goals arent top level.
Being swim fit is important to get out of the water fresher, not faster. Swim fitness carries over to the second half of the run, more so as race length increases. If you only do enough to survive the swim you are unlikely to run to your full potential.
@@jnellist46that's why I wrote survive ++. With a wetsuit swimming is like walking for me with a basic level skills. With 30 min a week I have no problem swimming for hours. It don't cost much at all to swim 10 min slower than "expected". But if you have 5-6 hour pr week before norseman and waist two sessions a week in the pool you are going to do much worse than you could. Iv tried both swimming alot and almost noting. It's mostly a waste of time when you are over a basic level.
Agree with that comment ! I swim once a week and not every week at the moment due to lack of time (unfortunately) , yet I find this enough to get out of the water relatively fresh for Olympic distance and 70.3. I hope I can swim more often in future though.
I asked Jeff Symonds, professional ironman, "How did you, a runner, get good enough at swimming to even think of doing ITU?" "9 swims a week for a year and a half"
Easily 3 times each day, without any problem or effort. With VITS real time analtically performnce and endurance, full Body accurat. 24/7 at hand in a second. New era in Freestyle Performance developing, and at all swimming and Body performing. ;-) Still hidden under cover, available for Pro Athletes and those aiming for gigh goals in life, how ever. ;-) Olympic swimming champion maker, records, all colour medals, mostly golds. 🙂😎 One day it will come out to public ...
VITS - easy 10 times a day, each day - comfortable practicable for everybody ! Flex, Analysis, perfection of precision & no days off - you know who said that once ;-) world finest instruction, finest exercising, super slowmo to hypercadence, short motor sessions, long endurance session up to 3h, full body stabi, Athletic, torque, pretty fine abbs the girls will love it , and the best ever in the world swim perfrmance workouts with several different methods, bpm tuned, with music, live analysis, online connected , steady full body control. only step in the water to having fun and succes, dome some necessaries there, smashing the others all the time, or just win biggest competitions. Even better human sensoric feeling 😁 Out of this universe good understanding in everything about the "Freestyle myth" in a couple of minutes 😁 Get instructions and information about that, how to set the newest world records, in swimming freestyle each category, and in Triathlon. Yiehaaaa - 🤠😎🐎
How many times a week do you swim? 🏊♂
Everyday. Sometimes twice a day. Roughly 60 to 80mins a day. Moderate to vigorous training
Wooden teeth play a factor as well
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Once a week.
In the many years I’ve been participating in triathlon, I have to say, that for me, swimming is one of the best ways to prevent injury in cycling and running.
can you elaborate a bit on that? sounds interesting.
@@99cya Swimming is a no impact activity that elevates your HR. Nothing to substantiate this, but I feel like swimming reduces inflammation by getting your heart rate up without all the stress on your legs that cycling and particularly running cause. All I can tell you is, for me, when I swim less, my running and cycling suffer and my injury rate almost always increases.
I agree - most of us age groupers suffer from locks of niggles and swimming is a great way to get aerobically trained without lots of miles running.
@@PureNRG2 interesting. What about shoulder issues? Lots of swimming isnt so easy on that right?
@@99cya I’ve stayed focused on technique and pacing and have had only very minor shoulder issues. None where I had to stop swimming.
Good stuff. Could you do a show on some of the less utilized supplemental training for each discipline? Pull band for swimming, strength training for cycling and plyometrics, sprinting and drills for running.
I used to swim 3x a week. As an ex swimmer I put more energy and time into the bike and run training. Usually 3km max 4. But focused on intensity due to the overall low volume. Also helps that I'm a swim caoch so I made my own sessions.
It's not only how often, but for how long you keep that training plan. Swim gains are slowest compared to running and cycling. 4x/week on a bike will pay off in few weeks. 4x/week in the swim will pay off in years.
I agree in all what you said here in the video.
I live in north of Sweden. I start my ow season in the middle of may but it’s pretty cold than 12-13+ C. October to mars I swim this season 3-4 workouts between 1500 m -4000 m, in the pool , unfortunately just once per week with coach.
Last season I was swimming 5 times/week , was training for qualifying for Kona.
I worked less last year to be able to rest more and train more.
Swimming gives a lot to bicycle and running. My VO2 will be better after hard work in the pool. I bike and run better after hard intervals and series in the pool.
Nice video as usual
did u manage to qualify ;) ?
Yes 😇I qualified in Kalmar and been to Kona October last year. I did my strongest IM in Kona, not fastest. I did my best swim in Kona same time as in Kalmar without wetsuit. The first IM I felt stronger the last 10 k in the running than in first 10 k. Bicycle is my strongest part but Kona has much tougher course than Kalmar. I took 18 positions in the bike in Kona. I’m very happy for that race. Kalmar is best but Kona was really one special race.
@@marie-louisekarlander2366 cool, congrats!
I'm not swimming for a triathlon, just physical fitness and conditioning. I started a little over a year ago with 12 lengths, 300m, and now I'm at 30 lengths, 750m. A few months after I started I felt like I was getting fatter. Similar to how humans feel when they commence puberty. Now I am starting to see results such as muscle definition and more strength.
Because the lake I live by is frozen 9 months of the year I must travel 1.5 hours to the pool. Cost is a factor so I spend at least 1.5 hours in the pool. I focus on technique but also endurance and I do at least twice a week. In summer it is easy for me to jump in lake about 4 times a week for smaller duration. My biggest issue is anxiety with group swimmers so you can see the start of a triathlon is troublesome for me. I'm trying to get back to my motor cross days thinking when all be damned and just run over people in front but that has disappeared.
indeed its never exactly 45min... most of the time one spend on travel + shower + etc... it's usually smarter to make session longer if one can sustain
As a swimmer who likes doing the occasional triathlon i swim 3-5 times a week and try and cycle and run once a week
I finally listened to sense and got an IM coach who sets me 3 structured swims a week to the 70.3.
Distance is a bad way to measure % race and training, time is very obviously better, for starters
They were using hyperbole to make a point, noones actually suggesting you on spend 2% of the time swimming.
I live on the Sunshine Coast in Australia. We don’t have winter. So I don’t have any excuses as a result 😂
another extremely useful video for me - thanks again!!
I go 4:20 in 400m freestyle. Ask me anything for training, race, technical advice.
Would be interesting to divide the weekly hours one has for training between the 3 disciplines, and find out which formula will give you the best finish time. For me more time on the bike and run gives me faster times for these disciplines, however more swim time only results in very marginal gains.
Swims are best after big bike and run days.
Two times for me works pretty good. Marginal gains in technique and flow.
i in fact used 2 do swim 5x/wk, 4km per session, still aspiring 2 do that simply bec i enjoy it. Also, its impossible 2 run 5x/wk, 1s body needs recovery time from a run
YES! A triathlete who takes 2 or 3 minutes to swim 100 meters should swim three days a week. Practice does not make perfect; it makes permanent.
great video, learned a lot. Another video idea could be "how to pass people in the pool" :)
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Nice content -- one quick Q, does the duration you show (e.g. 30/45/60 min) include warmup? I usually do about a 10 min warmup per session
I haven't swum since my 70.3 last September. Am I doing it right?
Swimmer only, but some old sayings about general conditioning. Over 3 days without training, and you lose conditioning. For every day past that, you will need 2 days to get back to where you were. So, if you only swim once a week, you are losing conditioning, and it will take maybe 2 weeks to get that conditioning back. Since I am 'older' like 73, it seems to take me longer than that.
Michael phelps said that but it’s a lot of rubbish if you’re training correctly
Depends on what you mean by 'training correctly'. You will lose the aerobic capacity if you lay off much, and swimming is a whole different game than running or cycling.
After thinking about this for a bit, I think I will agree with Phelps. Most triathlon people are not swimmers first, except for Lucy Charles Barkley. Most come from a running and/or biking back ground. There are so many subtleties in swimming that you lose if you don't practice enough. Once a week is not even maintaining. I am a swimmer only, but tune in here because I seek many different swimming instructions to figure out what works best for me. Maybe you can get away with once a week. Maybe not.
Seems to me you should have all done the different options and measured results. Should also include travel and change time as well as swim time in how to optimize say 3 hours per week.
2 days swim, 2-3 days run , 2 days strength training and strech almost every day
3 days run is way too little to improve, at best you are maintaining
i swim two times a week around 3K one with intervals, one with technique/duration. Is that enough for a 70.3? im now a half year in triatlon (havent raced yet) and gonna do a 70.3 in 8 months and some 1/4 in between.
i did norseman with 23 min a week swimming. I was around 170 out of the water. Then had around the 115 best bike split. Then after T2 i was almost exactly in the same place as the bike split. The swin didnt make any difference to my placing. As long as you can survive ++ you are good to go in my eyes when you are in my category. The time spent in the pool will pay of much more spent on a bike or running. One year i tried swimming alot more and used 10 min less on the ironman swim. Not worth it if you have to prioritize time
thats exactly my thinking. just get through the swimming. there is so much more potential to lose time afterwards. one can easily swim 10min slower. wont make a difference as long as your goals arent top level.
I normally go twice a week, but sometimes think the same; investing hours and hours to reduce the swim time by maybe a few minutes 🤔😄
Being swim fit is important to get out of the water fresher, not faster. Swim fitness carries over to the second half of the run, more so as race length increases. If you only do enough to survive the swim you are unlikely to run to your full potential.
@@jnellist46that's why I wrote survive ++. With a wetsuit swimming is like walking for me with a basic level skills. With 30 min a week I have no problem swimming for hours. It don't cost much at all to swim 10 min slower than "expected". But if you have 5-6 hour pr week before norseman and waist two sessions a week in the pool you are going to do much worse than you could.
Iv tried both swimming alot and almost noting. It's mostly a waste of time when you are over a basic level.
Agree with that comment ! I swim once a week and not every week at the moment due to lack of time (unfortunately) , yet I find this enough to get out of the water relatively fresh for Olympic distance and 70.3. I hope I can swim more often in future though.
I live 400 yards from the sea and there’s a pool in between so excuses are not a thing 😊
400 yards so too far.
Lucky you!
I live 400m from pool and beach in opposite directions - it's great!
Thank you 👋🏻
I see heather has become a human submarine
I asked Jeff Symonds, professional ironman, "How did you, a runner, get good enough at swimming to even think of doing ITU?" "9 swims a week for a year and a half"
If you’re training for Ironman, I personally did an hour 4-5 times a week- felt incredibly fresh when on the bike and was not tired.
im training for a half ironman right now thanks!!
Everyday! if you dont go out of that water feeling strong you are not going to ride that bike strong either or even complete the run
Easily 3 times each day, without any problem or effort. With VITS real time analtically performnce and endurance, full Body accurat. 24/7 at hand in a second.
New era in Freestyle Performance developing, and at all swimming and Body performing. ;-) Still hidden under cover, available for Pro Athletes and those aiming for gigh goals in life, how ever. ;-) Olympic swimming champion maker, records, all colour medals, mostly golds. 🙂😎 One day it will come out to public ...
Please add to Turkish subtitles ❣️🧿
5x
Just go in once a week, fins, paddles and pullbuoy 5x500m smash it
Me: How many times a week should I swim?
Coach: Yes
What?
You need to do enough to reverse the bad posture you pick up from spending too much time on the bike......
So you're saying once a month in my year of training before the Ironman wasn't enough?
VITS - easy 10 times a day, each day - comfortable practicable for everybody ! Flex, Analysis, perfection of precision & no days off - you know who said that once ;-) world finest instruction, finest exercising, super slowmo to hypercadence, short motor sessions, long endurance session up to 3h, full body stabi, Athletic, torque, pretty fine abbs the girls will love it , and the best ever in the world swim perfrmance workouts with several different methods, bpm tuned, with music, live analysis, online connected , steady full body control.
only step in the water to having fun and succes, dome some necessaries there, smashing the others all the time, or just win biggest competitions.
Even better human sensoric feeling 😁
Out of this universe good understanding in everything about the "Freestyle myth" in a couple of minutes 😁
Get instructions and information about that, how to set the newest world records, in swimming freestyle each category, and in Triathlon.
Yiehaaaa - 🤠😎🐎
Being of the bald toothless swims 3 times a week
Zero .. next question.