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congratulations for the video, I rarely see nowadays such a honest and deep analysis on a product, tech and company that goes deep into the root causes and business development as well as background story. That's a direct subscribe.
Ken, here's a new fairly useless product: Totem Compass I'd love to see you feature this thing. By the way, you'll need a bunch of them but they are $50 each and cheaper by the dozen.
For $800 bucks plus $25 per month I will take the extra work to just pull my phone out of my pocket. Working for a company where if you are honest you will be fired it means it’s a bad company.
@@dambukarincasi9576wait it includes a plan I can use with my phone? Since this device would be handy but a phone would be needed alongside it to use in between events or classes. Or is it a plan for the device only? Because that’s the issue. It needs to be paired with a phone and this thing costs more than my phone. If it were cheaper I would have considered it
It IS technically a phone data plan too but honestly I'd take a smartwatch instead. I mean eventually you'll HAVE to use an existing computer interface to even manage dealing with this subscription.
It's kinda sad that "it's not a scam, it just sucks" actually is pretty much praise given just how many increasingly blatant scams there are in the tech industry.
ehhh the advertisting in compare to the price and what it actually can do = it sucks and don't live up to what was promised aka its a scam then (sorry ken first time we disagree here its not as good as advertised and in the UK for example thats against tranding standard laws and is classed as defrauding aka scamming someone)
Cathode Ray Dude summed it up: they're not profitting by making anything we consumers can buy - they're profitting by making a business that another business can buy.
The fact is, a lot of startups nowadays have no interest in creating a sustainable business, their only goal is to catch the eye of a big tech company and be acquihired.
I love the whole, "you dont need to take a phone out of your pocket, install an app, learn how to use it, blah blah blah", when their solution is "buy an entirely new product, set it up, pay monthly fees, learn how to use it" if it actually worked lol
@@cujoedaman Definitely, but as seen on TV products don't usually get millions in funding and actual venture backing. I guess the only real difference between As Seen On TV products vs modern bunk like Waterseer or AI Pin is that only one attracts idiots with big wallets
Always find it funny when people (usually those trying to sell you something) try to act like any of those things are even mildly inconvenient. You take your phone out of your pocket every time you want to use it, and installing apps and learning how to use one is so braindead simple even a child can do it.
Exactly. This feels like it was made "just good enough" to possibly entice a buyer and then that's it. They're going to get out with a golden parachute but their employees are on a timer with an axe hanging over their heads.
@@JamesR624 No, selling off the company so soon is scummy as all hell, but not an outright scam. The next buyer might indeed do their best to make this device amazing or maybe they use the tech or AI and repurpose it for something else. It's just very alarming that they're wanting to sell so soon.
They basically said "hey let's take a smartwatch, but pin it to your shirt and replace the easy-to-use touch screen with a laser projector that's unintuitive and doesn't work in the sun, then decouple it from smartphones so it's way less useful, more expensive, and drains its battery at a crazy rate because it has to do all the processing and cellular communication on its own!" Anyone with any sense could've seen it was a bad idea. There's no real use case for the device that isn't already filled by better devices. They could've just made an AI assistant app for smart watches or even their own smart watch with a special AI assistant button, but instead they got cocky and thought they could singlehandedly invent an entirely new form factor that would replace existing devices even though nobody asked for it.
I wouldn’t want a smart watch. I like the device itself and the projector but it needed to be paired with a phone for battery life and to be less expensive. It’s more expensive than my actual phone.
The big problem really is that voice is not a good way to interface with a computer, and you should only consider it if you have a disability that prevents you from using other options.
Really the only place I see it as good option (if it works well) is a car. You just don't want to be looking for buttons or looking at screen when driving. Any other place... I simply don't get why would anyone use voice. It's usually not faster, it is invasive (u usually aren't alone, I don't need to hear you talking to your phone)... I really actually hate it.
My mom loves voice control of set-top box for some reason, but personally I agree with you. If you can reach your remote control quickly, it's going to be *much* faster than voice.
If Apple was a dry riverbed, then Humane sounds like Cleveland's Cuyahoga River until the 1970s. That river was so polluted that it caught fire at least 13 times until it was finally cleaned up. I don't expect Humane to be rehabilitated.
I think a more modern Google Glass would work far, far, far better than this for half the price. Just offload compute and stuff to a phone like a smart watch.
@@andrewmorris483 Even if the Glass had it's issues, the purpose felt obvious. But with the Ai Pin and Rabbit R1, fell like solutions to nonexistent problems.
So true! Can you imagine using your ST:TNG comm badge in a ship-wide emergency to try and hail a fellow crew person...and the comm interjects, "By the way, there's a special on raktajino in 10-forward for the next 5 minutes. Shall I put in an order for you?"
The communicator badge is like that exactly because it's in a TV show; the actors can speak aloud what they're doing so the audience hears it. In the real world, the idea of crowds of people where half of them are talking loudly to their chest wristwatches is ridiculous on it's face.
@@sammoore2242 😆🤣 Yes! Imagine all the AI would be needed to throw out all the explosions, shouting and calamity so YOUR darned comm badge could understand and respond to YOU!😆🤣
Though it's probably not canon, I do remember a Star Trek novel (I think it was the Voyager edition of the "Captain's Table" series) having a character (Janeway, I think) actually talking directly to her com badge to get its date of manufacture, etc. And given that the com badges handle not just direct communication, but translation as well (even for those who aren't wearing one), I can see these evolving into the com badge.
@@AustynSN Yes! Probably, AI and circuitry in the 24th century was/would be so advanced that ALL processing cane be/could be done on-chip. Or...would that be NO PROCESSING AT ALL on-chip? Did they/would they strike a good balance? Fascinating!
It seems like, before inventing any new human interface device, one must ask "Does this just do what a cellphone already does? If so, does it do those things demonstrably, unquestionably better?" If the answer to those questions are YES and NO respectively, then it's time to step away.
I think that's where Apple stumbled with the Apple Watch at first, then learned how to make it a proper extension of the phone. The Watch offering real-time fitness information, working like a remote for the phone, being able to see where you're walking all without having to take out your phone, helped it find its place. In this case, the Watch was able to be reworked into "it does do everything the phone does, but it makes the UI better because it's always on display."
@@Dipsoid you know, I would’ve said the same thing, until I actually got an Apple Watch. I’m not necessarily a massive fan of Apple, and I jokingly said for a while that the Apple Watch is a solution in search of a problem, but I have to say that I frequently use the Apple Watch on my day. It’s a lot easier for me to quickly text back someone without taking out my phone, or set a timer, or check my heart rate. Plus, it’s a watch. So there is that.
This thing always reminded me of a Kickstarter project. Something that sounds great in a pitch, but when you actually get it, you realise it's a complete nonstarter. Bascially the Ouya of AI, just with a lot more money burned.
Another big issue is that, if the company closes, without the cloud based services, the AI Pin will cease working. And, at only "34.2 grams (1.2 ounces)", it won't even could be used as an expensive paperweight.
Yup. Reminds me of the Tiger NetJet from back in the day. You bought the hardware but every game it could play was online, so once the service shut down, you were left with a useless piece of plastic.
Gabe Newell said that HL 2 switched to the "episisode modem" so "no fan will have to wait six years for the next release". With HL 6 being released this year (or has it been released already?), I'm now looking forward to HL 7. I hope this one will be gold. In other news, I strongly believe that talking industrial-strength bullshit should be punishable by law.
How did they screw up 'take a photo'? It's one of the ultimate spur of the moment hands free things people want to separate themselves from "oh, god, he's got his phone out for pictures" moments. Ultimate dealbreaker.
How in the world was this idea pitched and accepted? "It's like a smart phone, but worse in literally every way possible." Truly baffling people threw millions of dollars at this thing. What an unfortunate waste of raw materials that will just end up in peoples bottom drawers or landfills.
the idea wasn't to be "better than a smartphone," at least not in terms of functionality- the idea was to give you many of the benefits of technology without taking you out of your environment- i.e. walking around with your head down looking at your smartphone screen.
if you talked with sales people level normies when they announced it, you would know the idea. they sold it as a device that would do whatever your imagination would want it to do. just have it on and you don't have to remember anything from the meetings, then get notes of them through the power of AI. it will remind you of your relevant meetings through power of ai and work as your personal assistant sending invites etc. like thinking that it would do any of that is really dumb if you have any technical aptitude, but if you don't have then why wouldn't it be able to do all that with all that funding, it's the year of the aaaiiiiiii after all. and people thought that it would do that stuff, they didn't stop to think that if they had that technology why would they limit it to a device etc. it's not for anyone who thinks.
I disagree partially, because it is a question being asked by so many these days, people are staring to realize how invasive their phone is in their life. It is certainly not a solution, but their inspiration certainly is part of a very real question and concern.
Thanks for allowing me to assist in the research for this episode! For those wondering what the technical specifications are for the Ai Pin itself, here they are: SoC: 2.1 GHz 8-core Snapdragon 720G ARMv8 processor (with a dedicated AI engine developed by QualComm) with 4 GB of RAM eMMC: 32 GB of storage Camera: 13-megapixel ultra-wide with a resolution of 4160 x 3120 pixels, 120-degree FOV (field-of-view), f/2.4 aperture, and 1080p @ 30 FPS video Weight: 34.2 grams (1.2 ounces) Height: 47.5 mm (1.87 inches) Width: 44.5 mm (1.75 inches) Thickness: 8.25 to 14.98 mm (0.325 to 0.59 inches)
Ah yes, putting a whole smartphone chip inside the very small wearable form factor. No wonder why this gets overheated so quickly and the battery only last a couple hours
@@EldobelU They don't even needed this much (CPU and RAM) since it's almost all handled by cloud. But the engineers with the mind in "powerful" and "AI" made some dumb choices, apparently. But we can't expect efficient software today, so it's fine.
The lack of phone app was undoubtedly done because as soon as you have to reach for your phone to do something with the pin, you've negated the entire point of the pin, and reminded yourself that a superior product already exists and is in your hand. As a standalone tech device, the pin was a failure. As a tech demo/stepping stone, it probably provided some useful data and development. We're a step closer to a Star Fleet Comm Badge.
Even if flawed, the product was made and partially delivered. I don't really feel sympathy for investors who seriously believed there was a demand for this. A real scam are things like "Theranos", where product and technology never existed.
Back in April, I saw someone on the subway with a Humane AI Pin and to this day, that guy was the only person I saw with that AI spec garbage on his chest. I wanted to laugh but I kept it to myself.
The "we need to make this technology so we can get families off their phones and interacting with each other" is just ignoring the fact families have been ignoring each other for years at dinner with no device required.
I like the concept of the pin, in the sense that having a device that can use a laser to display simple things like time, or incoming calls. Paired with a Bluetooth headset, and that alone could be a neat replacement for much of what I use my phone for. The form factor is a novelty, and that novelty is the main edge over something like the lite phone. As for ideas to help it be better in the future, a second camera, to create a stereoscopic image would help the laser self focus on your hand, and the added depth perception would make identification a bit easier. It would also make the device even more expensive, so.... Probably not the best option.
It's the battery, the short life of the battery that kills this product. It does too much from that cute bell sound to laser projector. All take power and this thing is small, too small.
As for this particular device... this device cannot do anything that a smartphone cannot already do as well, just better. And yes, I understand the concept. A smartphone must be pulled out of the pocket, it is not fully voice controllable, etc. But that's something which can be fixed. There is no need to create a new standalone device. This device could as well have been a smartphone accessory. A mic, a speaker, a camera, a touch pad - all of this can already be connected to smartphones via Bluetooth. And by not having to take care of the network connection and most the data processing, the device also will require way less power, so it can last way longer on a battery charge. And as for software services, just write an app. This device is not really a competitor to an iPhone but rather a competitor to an Apple Watch.
It might have been better as a speaker, mic, camera and so on device. The fact that you could wear it all the time as a sort of body camera would be pretty cool too. I already have a smart watch. They make smart rings too. A smart glasses type device would also work along with smart headphones/earbuds. Sooner or later we will get implants for mic, speaker, camera so that we do not need all of these devices. I seen something where a wearable contact prototypes are in the works now.
great video ken! that guy sam you mentioned looks SO familiar, just can't put my finger on it. have you installed and tried 1.1.4? a lot of the issues you / reviewers / early customers were having have been addressed. would love to hear your thoughts!
in my area where it can get to 120F at the peak of the summer, that would mean there's like a month or two out of the year where this thing is completely unusable since it'd be overheating on idle.
To be fair, all modern electronics fail under similar circumstances. They're all built super small with minimal cooling and minimal space between heat generating components.
@@bluedistortions my thinkpad, though not happy, will at least continue trying to function in those conditions, and my phone is similar. like i dont expect it to run as fast or work perfectly, but it shouldn't be completely be shutting down...
As other reviews pointed out, the subscription is the downfall of this device. I get why they needed it, but there should have been an option for it to work like a smart watch, just being an extension of your phone so it can stay in your pocket. The instant you cut your sub or they decide to abandon the service, you have yourself an $800 paperweight.
one thing that bugged me was the hubris of the founders when people challenged them on releasing beta features... "do not challenge us our vision, just buy" they got upset at people outside their bubble showing them their faults.
Problem i see with this device. It has hinged everything on AI before that itself has reached maturity. While LLMs have wowed us last year, in practical application their inaccuracy is simply too lacking to render it viable as the basis of a commercial product or service. And that is something MANY of the gold-rushers are starting to learn the hard way. Humane included...
I don't agree. The device itself is bad. It should be, at best, a smartphone accessory. If the AI parts worked perfectly, it would be still be dumb compared to something a fraction of the price that reuses all the technology already in my pocket.
@@weekendrobot Yes and no. The concept is as gimmicky as it can get and reeks of naivety in thinking people would be jumping at the bits for a Smartphone minus screen that costs more than most cause they thought installing a Snapdragon processor was a good idea. But i can't ignore that if they went for the Accessory approach. They would have never gotten past a concept sketch. They managed to sell the pin as a luxurious stand-alone device and i know better than to ignore the boutique crowd. Manage to turn it into a statement and you can get away with being this expensive, just look at Apple which is established as a major source of inspiration behind this botched venture. But even that requires it to at the very least: function. And it didn't... cause AI sucks... So i'd say we both are correct in a way. just in regards to different demographics.
@@Foxhood I can see your point. I agree that as an accessory, there is no company. Anyone can build an accessory that hooks into your phone and calls out to ChatGPT. I fully expect we will see actually useful phone accessory versions of this concept come out in a few years by existing companies for a fraction of the price. No revolution, just evolution. But I don't think even if the AI on this was perfect, this is a sellable boutique device. The display is terrible, the ergonomics are terrible, the battery life is terrible, it overheats, it's too heavy. If it was actually a decent device then I think you have a point. This device will not be saved by better software.
That’s the thing to stand any chance this would literally need to be the perfect version of what this might be one day. An AI assistant that can flawlessly do almost all the basic things I would want to do with my phone without me having to put in the effort. Even then I still think a smartphone with that AI assistant as an app with access to everything in my phone and also an actual screen would still be better which calls into question if this could ever be a standalone device.
Working at Apple has obviously messed with their common sense. The owner thought he was the next Steve Jobs, he was more Steve Carell as no one could stop laughing at the product.
Last August, my phone fell out of my zipper pocket (I messed up and I guess I forgot to zip the pocket) while riding copperhead strike at carrowinds around 1pm. That was a feeling that SUCKED... But it didn't even cross my mind for a second to jump the fence to get it... I waited until close and the crew found it. Surprisingly only the case was slightly damaged.
One core issue with both the AI Pin and Rabbit was that those hawks jumped in when the core technology was still in its infancy, and nobody had any idea where things were going. Just a couple months after they failed, what Humane promised might be possible. Hell, the agent system Rabbit promised and never delivered on? Somebody in the open source AI community actually built it. It's not a clone because there was nothing to clone - he just looked at Rabbits promise, thought "that's a cool idea", and built something similar. Except the thing he built works, while Rabbit doesn't.
Jumping in & investing early is their eyes-wide-open strategy - you gotta bet on every dumb thing - lest one of those dumb things turns into the next big thing. I learnt this from a TH-cam channel on tech. These outfits' very business model is to tolerate the 'losses' from the mickey mouse projects - in order to be right there for the big wins. It's not a 'loss' for them - but a valid expenditure on R&D - it's just that they never know which of the bets will pay off.
The problem with these products that purport to 'keep you in the moment' by backing off of screens is that it isn't screens that keep people from being in the moment. They're just a means that people who want to be mentally somewhere else use to be mentally somewhere else. And there's nothing wrong with that.
This feels like a product ahead of its time. It's not going to live up to everything the devs wanted it to be, but I would not be surprised if, in a few years, we start to see products like this take off in a more polished form. Screens are always going to be useful, but there are definitely tasks that would be better suited to this. Personally I'd love to see a device like this used for real-time audio translation to help bridge language barriers. I work in customer service, and I would legit use a device that could translate conversations out loud multiple times a day. Yes, there are apps for it and they work ok, but I think something like this could be a faster and more intuitive solution
I feel like if Humane got a license deal with Viacom/CBS, they probably would made a killing if the pin was designed like the Starfleet logo as seen on The Next Generation.
This thing would have made way more sense as a device that connects to a smartphone for all processing. Basically just make it a wireless I/O peripheral for the phone, with all the connectivity and compute happening on the phone, talking to it via BLE (like your smartwatch does). That would have significantly improved battery life, reduced thermal issues, reduced cost, removed the need for cellular connectivity or subscriptions (just use the phone’s), and probably greatly improved reliability. It still would have sucked, just much less.
I've heard of the AI pin but I always skipped paying attention. Watching the marketing you replayed I'm suddenly intrigued. While it may suck, I really like the "in the moment" idea. I really hope they can recover and execute the vision. I think it would work a lot better as a phone accessory (no new number, better battery life) than a standalone product.
The early adopter base is gonna be small, the type of person to try out interesting tech is often also the type of person to not leave their house too often, and if you're already sitting at a computer it quickly becomes pointless
TBH this is the first time I hear about this angle of "wanting to be in the moment" and disliking the idea of pulling your phone. Why didn't the marketing lean more on that instead of just the AI assistant stuff? I actually think they'd be more successful if they marketed this as a "minimalist phone with less distractions" rather than "AI pin that only half works, half of the time".
This is what happens when the people running a company lose objectivity. They just couldn't accept that their new product just wasn't a good idea even going as far as firing those that were pointing this out.
You can't be both present and connected. If you're not engaging with your connection, you're not connected. If I go to dinner with my friends, and we just put our phones on the table and just engage in discussions, it would be the same as just carrying one of these.
AR Glasses is what I want. It's a shame Google Glasses went away. I would have been a proud Glasshole (it's legal to film in public without consent). Just think what they would have evolved into today.
I do seriously think that a lot of the problems with this thing, as well as the other similar products of its ilk, are because they don't want you to remember you have a phone. Like several of its biggest issues could be solved by making it interact with an app on your phone. The Phone could handle some of the local processing and make its battery more efficient. It wouldn't need its own phone number or anything because it could piggyback off of your current carrier, which would also reduce the price by not requiring a monthly subscription to use it. And so on. But the problem is that it's trying to replace your phone not work in tandem with it. And I honestly feel like that is more of a decision made out of necessity than desire. Because ultimately if you have your phone on you when you're using this device, you instantly can see how just using your phone is a million times more convenient than whatever this garbage is. Not to mention that it's a lot more private and practical to use when in a public space. If I'm on a crowded subway I'm not about to try and shout over everyone else so that I can verbally ask my pin for directions to a place when it can't even visually show me those directions. I mean hell can this thing even download and let you listen to podcasts and music and such? People use their phones for more than booking appointments and ordering pizza. Even if this has entertainment features, they're still going to be way more limited and more annoying to navigate without a physical screen to touch. And you're limited to basically just audio media. Ultimately it is quite literally trying to solve a problem that not only doesn't exist, but literally everything it can do can already be done faster and more easily with your phone.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't even want a computer that learns about me... To me a computer is a tool, I don't want a learning computer just as much as I don't want a learning hammer.
A computer is a tool that primarily works with information. A hammer is a tool that is for physically hammering in something. Of course I want my primary information tool to learn about me. I just don't want the drawbacks that come with that, such as others finding out stuff, or it misunderstanding, ...
Sounds like a scam to me 😂, if its a piece of junk for 700 bucks, no thanks I'll use Gemini which it's not good but at least it's 100,000 times better than this piece of junk😂. The people who make this should be ashamed of themselves and stop making crap like this anymore stop scanning people lol
The problems with AI Pin is that it does not bring anything new onto the market, and you have to pay a subscription for another mobile phone line for it to work. Many reviewers have mentioned the display (or lack off in light) on the hand, and that it has multiple issues. If they had done it without the need for another line, and just connected to your existing mobile it would have been better. Overall a poorly designed and executed product, very high initial cost, and the constant monthly mobile fee for it to work. Now they want to sell the company for around $1 billion, but it's probably not even worth maybe $25 to $50 million with the patients on the technology they invented. I don't see them selling the company, and it'll go under in less than a year.
Employees are afraid to speak out about issues... but Ken loves Apple design and people from Apple, so they care and it's not a scam. Still hiring after firing 10 people, but not a scam. Company looking to sell without even a successful product, but not a scam. A good portion of this video was Ken arguing with his viewers from previous comments made calling it a scam. Dude, get a grip.
It needs to be repurposed to pair with AR glasses to make them more lightweight and "glasses" like, basically filling in the scans and processing necessary for a good AR experience
It's an interesting idea with some potential, but as you said, marred by poor execution which -- to a certain degree -- is due to it being ahead of what is technologically feasible today. Thanks for an excellent, in depth, and balanced review.
@@LaidBackDeveloperbut that’s the thing this and that stupid rabbit thing are solutions looking for problems that don’t exist everything these can do our phones already can…..
Yup, and that was the main issue many people had with this (and Rabbit). Releasing a standalone device that does one thing that can eventually be replicated by software on a multi-functional device will mean sooner or later these devices will be literal paperweights. It reminds me of when someone once released a physical device that could only browse Wikipedia. That was it. In theory, it was supposed to get updates every so often because Wikipedia is always growing and changing, but no one saw any reason to buy a physical device when you could just get Wikipedia's app on your phone.
Never going to happen. This is categorically a bad product, because it doesn't solve a problem. Its entire functionality is moot, as phones do it all, but better. Besides the goofy laser hand gimmick, it's just another phone with terrible features.
Phone overuse killing in-person communication & "presentness" is an absolutely GARGANTUAN problem. Whether this is the solution is ofc debatable, but to pretend it's not trying to solve a legitimate major problem is absolutely delusional.
@Ajarylee-qh9ln Going without a broadly phone like device is literally impossible for most people. There's DEFINITELY a market for a device that can do most of a phone's functions without being an attention stealer and time sink. Something that lets your stay present in the moment in the way that is absolutely antithetical to the attention dominator that is a phone screen.
@Ajarylee-qh9ln 🤦...😑 Except that most people don't have that much self control when it comes to modern smartphone addiction. If they have their phone on them, then they are going to use it whenever they are even the most ever so slightly bored, no if's, and's, or but's about it. That's the ENTIRE reason the modern highly successful "deliberately dumb phone" market even exists dumbarse. The best and most successful way to break the modern "screen scrolling addiction" chain is to make it so it's not even possible for you to start. Do you like not know any other people than yourself or something? O_o It's not like this sh!t is uncommon or anything like that. Smartphone addiction is the preeminent plague of modern humanity in the exact same way opioid addiction was in the 00's, just SIGNIFICANTLY more widespread but with less dead people. (Although still definitely not none, or even CLOSE to none with how many people die driving cars due to using their phones bc they're so addicted that they simply CANNOT WAIT until they're done driving to interact w/ it. 🤷)
Trying to do a product that's supposed to be easier to integrate in your life than a smartphone, and then choosing to work with technology that can't fit into that form factor and thus needs a cloud connection for most of everything, isn't being ahead of time. It's betting on the wrong technology. When we ever achieve the ability to do that stuff on device then I'll consider using such a tool for important every day tasks. Before that's the case it's at best useful for gimmicks, and I've got enough of these already.
I don’t see where it is today but where it will be tomorrow with good AI. This can be great for the minimalist, disabled or elderly. I could even see ditching the cell phone but pairing it with a tablet for when you need to get more involved with something.
Feels like we're just a few short years away from the TNG comBadges! And while I would applaud that normally... seems most of these companies are conviniently forgetting about the skyscraper-sized flying appartment complex holding high orbit overhead... running enough joules to power the whole of earth as it is right now for a fair decade and change...
Breaking the dependency on using screens is going to be very difficult as our entire cognition system (brain/mind) is optimized for visual input and processing.
This could have been a great Bluetooth accessory - take advantage of your phone’s existing processing and network connection and the subscription could have been reasonable. It would have been quite a bit cheaper too. Making it a standalone device was a massive blunder and I suspect that, in hindsight, we’re going to look back and realize that it killed the company entirely.
Exactly. A very big dedication. It always never perfect at the beginning. I pray and wish them a very huge success. I really wanna see this company succeed in every way.
This was THE BEST ever review of the AI PIN. WOW. GREAT job! It was very honest and thorough! Amazing. And the very last line… about being like a teenager… it was spot on! It might survive all the downs and come back like a crazy good product after all, because the concept is GENIUS and the people behind it (although not great marketeers) seem to be very true to life and down to earth type of folks.
As I've commented a few times on other videos: This product (and Vision Pro, but especially this one) still fail to answer the important question of: "Why do I need this?" Which itself breaks down to, "What is the killer app or purpose? What does this product do that either can't be done elsewhere, or does it so much better than anything else this is what I want to use?" That's my biggest issue with this pin. I never see myself choosing it over my smartphone or even my smartwatch. I can't find that one thing it does that is totally unique or is leagues above any other way of doing it. It's yet another example of "solution searching for a problem." And that's not even commenting on the base price + it needing a subscription. This was one of the few products I predicted to be dead on arrival, and I think history might prove us right.
So they fired anyone who noted the product wasn't finished and require a subscription service for a glorified Siri? Gosh I can't imagine this one failing 😂
I really love my pin and hope to see it do well, it has taken me from being stuck at my desk researching to being able to compute anywhere. To be honest I’d be really sad without this device (I’ve been using it for the past month) I admit it’s a niche product but if you have ever had an assistant, you’d know sometimes your assistant makes mistakes. Atleast with the pin you can call it an idiot to its screen less face
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Ken, here's a new fairly useless product: Totem Compass
I'd love to see you feature this thing. By the way, you'll need a bunch of them but they are $50 each and cheaper by the dozen.
3.6 not good
For $800 bucks plus $25 per month I will take the extra work to just pull my phone out of my pocket.
Working for a company where if you are honest you will be fired it means it’s a bad company.
I agree with you on both accounts.
You just described all corporate companies though.
A "good" company in this case will have to be NOT a company. It will HAVE to be a flat structure, an anarchist organization on its own scale.
Word!
They’ve already cut the price, by omitting the extra battery booster and charge case they’ve dropped it down to $499.
$25/mo subscription kills it all by itself.
But it includes the phone plan, but i agree 25 bucks a month is a lot
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@@dambukarincasi9576 Everybody already has a phone plan. Nobody wants another one.
@@dambukarincasi9576wait it includes a plan I can use with my phone? Since this device would be handy but a phone would be needed alongside it to use in between events or classes.
Or is it a plan for the device only? Because that’s the issue. It needs to be paired with a phone and this thing costs more than my phone. If it were cheaper I would have considered it
It IS technically a phone data plan too but honestly I'd take a smartwatch instead. I mean eventually you'll HAVE to use an existing computer interface to even manage dealing with this subscription.
It's kinda sad that "it's not a scam, it just sucks" actually is pretty much praise given just how many increasingly blatant scams there are in the tech industry.
Beginning to get more "normal" today... Release a product, but release it unfinished and overpromised, leaving initial buyers as beta testers.
ehhh the advertisting in compare to the price and what it actually can do =
it sucks and don't live up to what was promised aka its a scam then (sorry ken first time we disagree here its not as good as advertised and in the UK for example thats against tranding standard laws and is classed as defrauding aka scamming someone)
dont reward a fish for swimming
Your face is a scam
Especially the AI tech industry in particular
Cathode Ray Dude summed it up: they're not profitting by making anything we consumers can buy - they're profitting by making a business that another business can buy.
Yea thats a sad reality of alot of these great ideas.
The fact is, a lot of startups nowadays have no interest in creating a sustainable business, their only goal is to catch the eye of a big tech company and be acquihired.
@@theblah12Make a product just big enough to sell to a big company then take the money and ride off into the sunset...
Other companies are customers, everyday people are consumers. That's how it all seems to be treated anyway.
That's the _real_ scam in this whole thing. Get big, get bought, get bags.
The owners do strike me as smug & arrogant so finding out their employees were ignored or even fired when raising concerns doesn't shock me.
A consequence of working at apple for so long, I suppose.
@@AltimaNEO Right! That's basically the "Steve Jobs special" right there.
@@AltimaNEO Or maybe that's why they picked Apple?
I love the whole, "you dont need to take a phone out of your pocket, install an app, learn how to use it, blah blah blah", when their solution is "buy an entirely new product, set it up, pay monthly fees, learn how to use it" if it actually worked lol
You'd be shocked at just how many new products are a solution in search of a problem lol
@@Krugis As Seen On TV products have been doing that for decades.
@@cujoedaman Definitely, but as seen on TV products don't usually get millions in funding and actual venture backing. I guess the only real difference between As Seen On TV products vs modern bunk like Waterseer or AI Pin is that only one attracts idiots with big wallets
Always find it funny when people (usually those trying to sell you something) try to act like any of those things are even mildly inconvenient. You take your phone out of your pocket every time you want to use it, and installing apps and learning how to use one is so braindead simple even a child can do it.
Humane with the most transparent “Let’s sell high because our stock is about to plummet because our product is gonna flop,” move ever
Exactly. This feels like it was made "just good enough" to possibly entice a buyer and then that's it. They're going to get out with a golden parachute but their employees are on a timer with an axe hanging over their heads.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Yep. Opening this video with "This is not a scam" is borderline misinformation. It's CLEARLY a scam.
@@JamesR624 No, selling off the company so soon is scummy as all hell, but not an outright scam. The next buyer might indeed do their best to make this device amazing or maybe they use the tech or AI and repurpose it for something else. It's just very alarming that they're wanting to sell so soon.
@Blur4strike The employees are doomed. A scam company on resume is a big no no
what stock?
They basically said "hey let's take a smartwatch, but pin it to your shirt and replace the easy-to-use touch screen with a laser projector that's unintuitive and doesn't work in the sun, then decouple it from smartphones so it's way less useful, more expensive, and drains its battery at a crazy rate because it has to do all the processing and cellular communication on its own!" Anyone with any sense could've seen it was a bad idea. There's no real use case for the device that isn't already filled by better devices. They could've just made an AI assistant app for smart watches or even their own smart watch with a special AI assistant button, but instead they got cocky and thought they could singlehandedly invent an entirely new form factor that would replace existing devices even though nobody asked for it.
Why would you invent a smartwatch with a dedicated assistant button, when that's already a thing?
To be fair, many smartwatches don't work great in sunlight either.
They should've just made a pocket smart watch because wrist watches are for ladies.
@@TheNightshadePrinceguess you carry around a pocket watch
I wouldn’t want a smart watch. I like the device itself and the projector but it needed to be paired with a phone for battery life and to be less expensive. It’s more expensive than my actual phone.
The big problem really is that voice is not a good way to interface with a computer, and you should only consider it if you have a disability that prevents you from using other options.
I've been a dev since the 80's and I think voice is a terrible way to interact with ANY electronics device, unless you are disabled.
I love having it as an option and I find it quite convenient, but it has to be A. Good and B. Not the only good or even primary interface.
Really the only place I see it as good option (if it works well) is a car. You just don't want to be looking for buttons or looking at screen when driving. Any other place... I simply don't get why would anyone use voice. It's usually not faster, it is invasive (u usually aren't alone, I don't need to hear you talking to your phone)... I really actually hate it.
I agree, I often don’t phrase Alexa questions well.
My mom loves voice control of set-top box for some reason, but personally I agree with you. If you can reach your remote control quickly, it's going to be *much* faster than voice.
If Apple was a dry riverbed, then Humane sounds like Cleveland's Cuyahoga River until the 1970s. That river was so polluted that it caught fire at least 13 times until it was finally cleaned up. I don't expect Humane to be rehabilitated.
_See the river that catches on fire!_
@@slavboii420No river fires in over 50 years!
2 months from release to make one of Ken’s videos. That’s both an honor and a failure at the same time.
Wasn't the "Google Glass" supposed to do the same thing in 2013?
I think a more modern Google Glass would work far, far, far better than this for half the price. Just offload compute and stuff to a phone like a smart watch.
@@andrewmorris483 Even if the Glass had it's issues, the purpose felt obvious. But with the Ai Pin and Rabbit R1, fell like solutions to nonexistent problems.
And so was born the forerunner of the communicator badge from Star Trek: The Next Generation. It would take 378 years before it became useful.
So true! Can you imagine using your ST:TNG comm badge in a ship-wide emergency to try and hail a fellow crew person...and the comm interjects, "By the way, there's a special on raktajino in 10-forward for the next 5 minutes. Shall I put in an order for you?"
The communicator badge is like that exactly because it's in a TV show; the actors can speak aloud what they're doing so the audience hears it. In the real world, the idea of crowds of people where half of them are talking loudly to their chest wristwatches is ridiculous on it's face.
@@sammoore2242 😆🤣 Yes! Imagine all the AI would be needed to throw out all the explosions, shouting and calamity so YOUR darned comm badge could understand and respond to YOU!😆🤣
Though it's probably not canon, I do remember a Star Trek novel (I think it was the Voyager edition of the "Captain's Table" series) having a character (Janeway, I think) actually talking directly to her com badge to get its date of manufacture, etc.
And given that the com badges handle not just direct communication, but translation as well (even for those who aren't wearing one), I can see these evolving into the com badge.
@@AustynSN Yes! Probably, AI and circuitry in the 24th century was/would be so advanced that ALL processing cane be/could be done on-chip. Or...would that be NO PROCESSING AT ALL on-chip? Did they/would they strike a good balance? Fascinating!
It seems like, before inventing any new human interface device, one must ask "Does this just do what a cellphone already does? If so, does it do those things demonstrably, unquestionably better?"
If the answer to those questions are YES and NO respectively, then it's time to step away.
I think that's where Apple stumbled with the Apple Watch at first, then learned how to make it a proper extension of the phone. The Watch offering real-time fitness information, working like a remote for the phone, being able to see where you're walking all without having to take out your phone, helped it find its place. In this case, the Watch was able to be reworked into "it does do everything the phone does, but it makes the UI better because it's always on display."
You say that, but I would answer Yes and No for smart watches but that seems to be a pretty lucrative segment.
@@Dipsoid you know, I would’ve said the same thing, until I actually got an Apple Watch. I’m not necessarily a massive fan of Apple, and I jokingly said for a while that the Apple Watch is a solution in search of a problem, but I have to say that I frequently use the Apple Watch on my day. It’s a lot easier for me to quickly text back someone without taking out my phone, or set a timer, or check my heart rate. Plus, it’s a watch. So there is that.
This thing always reminded me of a Kickstarter project. Something that sounds great in a pitch, but when you actually get it, you realise it's a complete nonstarter. Bascially the Ouya of AI, just with a lot more money burned.
Another big issue is that, if the company closes, without the cloud based services, the AI Pin will cease working. And, at only "34.2 grams (1.2 ounces)", it won't even could be used as an expensive paperweight.
Yup. Reminds me of the Tiger NetJet from back in the day. You bought the hardware but every game it could play was online, so once the service shut down, you were left with a useless piece of plastic.
Several paperweights too! You got to admit it does look aesthetically pleasing, and the charger for it looks beautiful.
"I was upset at seeing children glued to smartphones. So instead they'll just be confused just trying to figure this thing out!"
I am shocked and amazed how anyone could expect it not to suck
This speaks volumes, I would've guessed you'd have to wait like 7-10 years to make a video on the AI pin, but no, SAME YEAR IT WAS RELEASED.
Doesnt matter how much money your throw at polishing a turd, it still remains a turd.
But it's so shiny 😁
You could roll it in glitter instead!
It's amazing how these days you can create an AI startup, completely funded by VC, launch a failed product, and then sell the company for 1 billion.
i like that "kill stupid owner" feature, when you ask for HL3
Gabe Newell said that HL 2 switched to the "episisode modem" so "no fan will have to wait six years for the next release".
With HL 6 being released this year (or has it been released already?), I'm now looking forward to HL 7. I hope this one will be gold.
In other news, I strongly believe that talking industrial-strength bullshit should be punishable by law.
How did they screw up 'take a photo'? It's one of the ultimate spur of the moment hands free things people want to separate themselves from "oh, god, he's got his phone out for pictures" moments.
Ultimate dealbreaker.
How in the world was this idea pitched and accepted? "It's like a smart phone, but worse in literally every way possible."
Truly baffling people threw millions of dollars at this thing. What an unfortunate waste of raw materials that will just end up in peoples bottom drawers or landfills.
the idea wasn't to be "better than a smartphone," at least not in terms of functionality- the idea was to give you many of the benefits of technology without taking you out of your environment- i.e. walking around with your head down looking at your smartphone screen.
@@Tahngarthor there's apps for that already work with the smart phone.
They said, "want to lower your yearly taxable income"
if you talked with sales people level normies when they announced it, you would know the idea. they sold it as a device that would do whatever your imagination would want it to do. just have it on and you don't have to remember anything from the meetings, then get notes of them through the power of AI. it will remind you of your relevant meetings through power of ai and work as your personal assistant sending invites etc.
like thinking that it would do any of that is really dumb if you have any technical aptitude, but if you don't have then why wouldn't it be able to do all that with all that funding, it's the year of the aaaiiiiiii after all. and people thought that it would do that stuff, they didn't stop to think that if they had that technology why would they limit it to a device etc. it's not for anyone who thinks.
This is a textbook example of "the answer to a question nobody asked" or "a solution looking for a problem".
That’s something Steve Job said too.
I disagree partially, because it is a question being asked by so many these days, people are staring to realize how invasive their phone is in their life. It is certainly not a solution, but their inspiration certainly is part of a very real question and concern.
@@ApolloTheDerg
Those people can just get a smartwatch, that's what I did to keep my phone in my pocket more.
@@Carnyzzle maybe someday I’ll join yall in the smartwatch world, somehow I have avoided even getting one to this day.
Thanks for allowing me to assist in the research for this episode! For those wondering what the technical specifications are for the Ai Pin itself, here they are:
SoC: 2.1 GHz 8-core Snapdragon 720G ARMv8 processor (with a dedicated AI engine developed by QualComm) with 4 GB of RAM
eMMC: 32 GB of storage
Camera: 13-megapixel ultra-wide with a resolution of 4160 x 3120 pixels, 120-degree FOV (field-of-view), f/2.4 aperture, and 1080p @ 30 FPS video
Weight: 34.2 grams (1.2 ounces)
Height: 47.5 mm (1.87 inches)
Width: 44.5 mm (1.75 inches)
Thickness: 8.25 to 14.98 mm (0.325 to 0.59 inches)
Ah yes, putting a whole smartphone chip inside the very small wearable form factor. No wonder why this gets overheated so quickly and the battery only last a couple hours
Is the processor throttling due to the heat and lack of power? It would not surprise me.
800$ for 32gb and 4 gb ram?
Couldn't they...you know give more?
@@EldobelU They don't even needed this much (CPU and RAM) since it's almost all handled by cloud. But the engineers with the mind in "powerful" and "AI" made some dumb choices, apparently.
But we can't expect efficient software today, so it's fine.
The lack of phone app was undoubtedly done because as soon as you have to reach for your phone to do something with the pin, you've negated the entire point of the pin, and reminded yourself that a superior product already exists and is in your hand.
As a standalone tech device, the pin was a failure. As a tech demo/stepping stone, it probably provided some useful data and development. We're a step closer to a Star Fleet Comm Badge.
It's a scam on investors, not consumers.
Even if flawed, the product was made and partially delivered. I don't really feel sympathy for investors who seriously believed there was a demand for this. A real scam are things like "Theranos", where product and technology never existed.
I'm just imagining how many of these things are gonna wind up in the washer.
Honestly, i really can't fathom any practical use for this thing.
I doubt they sell more than 10k units.
Back in April, I saw someone on the subway with a Humane AI Pin and to this day, that guy was the only person I saw with that AI spec garbage on his chest. I wanted to laugh but I kept it to myself.
he was likely a YT reviewer reviewing the product rather than a consumer.
The product reminds me of watching an old scifi movie where they show something that was futuristic when the movie was made but looks dated now.
Star trek....
The "we need to make this technology so we can get families off their phones and interacting with each other" is just ignoring the fact families have been ignoring each other for years at dinner with no device required.
Your wife "interrupting" your product tease TED Talk has to be the trifecta of insufferable tackiness.
Or it was a way to demonstrate an IRL situation where youre in the middle of doing something.
It's absolutely not a scam, it's just a shit product that warrants nothing more than an As Seen On TV infomercial and a
I like the concept of the pin, in the sense that having a device that can use a laser to display simple things like time, or incoming calls. Paired with a Bluetooth headset, and that alone could be a neat replacement for much of what I use my phone for. The form factor is a novelty, and that novelty is the main edge over something like the lite phone.
As for ideas to help it be better in the future, a second camera, to create a stereoscopic image would help the laser self focus on your hand, and the added depth perception would make identification a bit easier. It would also make the device even more expensive, so.... Probably not the best option.
It's the battery, the short life of the battery that kills this product. It does too much from that cute bell sound to laser projector. All take power and this thing is small, too small.
As for this particular device... this device cannot do anything that a smartphone cannot already do as well, just better. And yes, I understand the concept. A smartphone must be pulled out of the pocket, it is not fully voice controllable, etc. But that's something which can be fixed. There is no need to create a new standalone device. This device could as well have been a smartphone accessory. A mic, a speaker, a camera, a touch pad - all of this can already be connected to smartphones via Bluetooth. And by not having to take care of the network connection and most the data processing, the device also will require way less power, so it can last way longer on a battery charge. And as for software services, just write an app. This device is not really a competitor to an iPhone but rather a competitor to an Apple Watch.
It might have been better as a speaker, mic, camera and so on device. The fact that you could wear it all the time as a sort of body camera would be pretty cool too. I already have a smart watch. They make smart rings too. A smart glasses type device would also work along with smart headphones/earbuds.
Sooner or later we will get implants for mic, speaker, camera so that we do not need all of these devices. I seen something where a wearable contact prototypes are in the works now.
great video ken! that guy sam you mentioned looks SO familiar, just can't put my finger on it.
have you installed and tried 1.1.4? a lot of the issues you / reviewers / early customers were having have been addressed. would love to hear your thoughts!
Thanks for watching! I want to try it. I'm just waiting for "overnight" to happen because I guess it only updates overnight while on the Charge Pad. 😅
in my area where it can get to 120F at the peak of the summer, that would mean there's like a month or two out of the year where this thing is completely unusable since it'd be overheating on idle.
To be fair, all modern electronics fail under similar circumstances. They're all built super small with minimal cooling and minimal space between heat generating components.
@@bluedistortions my thinkpad, though not happy, will at least continue trying to function in those conditions, and my phone is similar. like i dont expect it to run as fast or work perfectly, but it shouldn't be completely be shutting down...
As other reviews pointed out, the subscription is the downfall of this device. I get why they needed it, but there should have been an option for it to work like a smart watch, just being an extension of your phone so it can stay in your pocket.
The instant you cut your sub or they decide to abandon the service, you have yourself an $800 paperweight.
Great episode. You should do the Rabbit r1 next since it's an actual scam lol
"Before I go through the bad things...."
_Pulls out stack of paper._
"Let me go over the good things."
_Pulls out single sticky note._
XD
I like the reminder on his phone... "return AI pin"
one thing that bugged me was the hubris of the founders when people challenged them on releasing beta features... "do not challenge us our vision, just buy" they got upset at people outside their bubble showing them their faults.
Problem i see with this device. It has hinged everything on AI before that itself has reached maturity. While LLMs have wowed us last year, in practical application their inaccuracy is simply too lacking to render it viable as the basis of a commercial product or service. And that is something MANY of the gold-rushers are starting to learn the hard way. Humane included...
I don't agree. The device itself is bad. It should be, at best, a smartphone accessory. If the AI parts worked perfectly, it would be still be dumb compared to something a fraction of the price that reuses all the technology already in my pocket.
@@weekendrobot Yes and no.
The concept is as gimmicky as it can get and reeks of naivety in thinking people would be jumping at the bits for a Smartphone minus screen that costs more than most cause they thought installing a Snapdragon processor was a good idea.
But i can't ignore that if they went for the Accessory approach. They would have never gotten past a concept sketch. They managed to sell the pin as a luxurious stand-alone device and i know better than to ignore the boutique crowd. Manage to turn it into a statement and you can get away with being this expensive, just look at Apple which is established as a major source of inspiration behind this botched venture. But even that requires it to at the very least: function. And it didn't... cause AI sucks...
So i'd say we both are correct in a way. just in regards to different demographics.
@@Foxhood I can see your point. I agree that as an accessory, there is no company. Anyone can build an accessory that hooks into your phone and calls out to ChatGPT.
I fully expect we will see actually useful phone accessory versions of this concept come out in a few years by existing companies for a fraction of the price. No revolution, just evolution.
But I don't think even if the AI on this was perfect, this is a sellable boutique device. The display is terrible, the ergonomics are terrible, the battery life is terrible, it overheats, it's too heavy. If it was actually a decent device then I think you have a point. This device will not be saved by better software.
That’s the thing to stand any chance this would literally need to be the perfect version of what this might be one day. An AI assistant that can flawlessly do almost all the basic things I would want to do with my phone without me having to put in the effort. Even then I still think a smartphone with that AI assistant as an app with access to everything in my phone and also an actual screen would still be better which calls into question if this could ever be a standalone device.
Working at Apple has obviously messed with their common sense. The owner thought he was the next Steve Jobs, he was more Steve Carell as no one could stop laughing at the product.
I really enjoy you’re channel & felt this review was some of your best work . Because it shows that you have good integrity .
Last August, my phone fell out of my zipper pocket (I messed up and I guess I forgot to zip the pocket) while riding copperhead strike at carrowinds around 1pm. That was a feeling that SUCKED... But it didn't even cross my mind for a second to jump the fence to get it... I waited until close and the crew found it. Surprisingly only the case was slightly damaged.
One core issue with both the AI Pin and Rabbit was that those hawks jumped in when the core technology was still in its infancy, and nobody had any idea where things were going. Just a couple months after they failed, what Humane promised might be possible. Hell, the agent system Rabbit promised and never delivered on? Somebody in the open source AI community actually built it. It's not a clone because there was nothing to clone - he just looked at Rabbits promise, thought "that's a cool idea", and built something similar. Except the thing he built works, while Rabbit doesn't.
Jumping in & investing early is their eyes-wide-open strategy - you gotta bet on every dumb thing - lest one of those dumb things turns into the next big thing.
I learnt this from a TH-cam channel on tech.
These outfits' very business model is to tolerate the 'losses' from the mickey mouse projects - in order to be right there for the big wins.
It's not a 'loss' for them - but a valid expenditure on R&D - it's just that they never know which of the bets will pay off.
The problem with these products that purport to 'keep you in the moment' by backing off of screens is that it isn't screens that keep people from being in the moment. They're just a means that people who want to be mentally somewhere else use to be mentally somewhere else. And there's nothing wrong with that.
14:20 Love the reimagining of Gamers Nexus's "Thanks Steve"
This feels like a product ahead of its time. It's not going to live up to everything the devs wanted it to be, but I would not be surprised if, in a few years, we start to see products like this take off in a more polished form. Screens are always going to be useful, but there are definitely tasks that would be better suited to this. Personally I'd love to see a device like this used for real-time audio translation to help bridge language barriers. I work in customer service, and I would legit use a device that could translate conversations out loud multiple times a day. Yes, there are apps for it and they work ok, but I think something like this could be a faster and more intuitive solution
If the two finger gesture won't work just give it the one finger gesture
As someone whodeeply resents our society's increasing acceptance of surveillance, I've despised even the name of "Humane AI" body cam.
I feel like if Humane got a license deal with Viacom/CBS, they probably would made a killing if the pin was designed like the Starfleet logo as seen on The Next Generation.
I remember seeing Imran in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in 2007, it's insane how far he's come.
Man it’s so good to see this channel finally blow up, been watching since the hildron days
This thing would have made way more sense as a device that connects to a smartphone for all processing. Basically just make it a wireless I/O peripheral for the phone, with all the connectivity and compute happening on the phone, talking to it via BLE (like your smartwatch does). That would have significantly improved battery life, reduced thermal issues, reduced cost, removed the need for cellular connectivity or subscriptions (just use the phone’s), and probably greatly improved reliability. It still would have sucked, just much less.
I'm still getting unavoidable Twitter ads featuring stills from your channel with that trash ass desktop swamp cooler now that it's summer.
I've heard of the AI pin but I always skipped paying attention. Watching the marketing you replayed I'm suddenly intrigued. While it may suck, I really like the "in the moment" idea. I really hope they can recover and execute the vision. I think it would work a lot better as a phone accessory (no new number, better battery life) than a standalone product.
When someone says "This is NOT a scam", that's an immediate red flag that it IS INDEED a scam.
The early adopter base is gonna be small, the type of person to try out interesting tech is often also the type of person to not leave their house too often, and if you're already sitting at a computer it quickly becomes pointless
I would not wish to any CEO to be successful if they fire a developer for raising a question.
This. I don't want them to be successful just for this fact.
TBH this is the first time I hear about this angle of "wanting to be in the moment" and disliking the idea of pulling your phone. Why didn't the marketing lean more on that instead of just the AI assistant stuff? I actually think they'd be more successful if they marketed this as a "minimalist phone with less distractions" rather than "AI pin that only half works, half of the time".
I’m gonna download this to watch on flight tomorrow
This is what happens when the people running a company lose objectivity. They just couldn't accept that their new product just wasn't a good idea even going as far as firing those that were pointing this out.
Notice that the Good bar is minuscule to the Bad bar on the title bar.
Where?
@@rockpie.iso.tar.bz2Look at the progress bar.
You can't be both present and connected. If you're not engaging with your connection, you're not connected. If I go to dinner with my friends, and we just put our phones on the table and just engage in discussions, it would be the same as just carrying one of these.
That half life 3 bit at the end was hilarious
The "try again" moment reminded me of Squidward with the conch. You literally can't make this stuff up 😭 life really does imitate art
This is EXCACTLY WHY i am a late adopter, and this is EXCACTLY WHY i wait for a product to MATURE before i make buy/no buy decision.
AR Glasses is what I want. It's a shame Google Glasses went away. I would have been a proud Glasshole (it's legal to film in public without consent). Just think what they would have evolved into today.
I do seriously think that a lot of the problems with this thing, as well as the other similar products of its ilk, are because they don't want you to remember you have a phone.
Like several of its biggest issues could be solved by making it interact with an app on your phone. The Phone could handle some of the local processing and make its battery more efficient. It wouldn't need its own phone number or anything because it could piggyback off of your current carrier, which would also reduce the price by not requiring a monthly subscription to use it. And so on.
But the problem is that it's trying to replace your phone not work in tandem with it. And I honestly feel like that is more of a decision made out of necessity than desire. Because ultimately if you have your phone on you when you're using this device, you instantly can see how just using your phone is a million times more convenient than whatever this garbage is. Not to mention that it's a lot more private and practical to use when in a public space. If I'm on a crowded subway I'm not about to try and shout over everyone else so that I can verbally ask my pin for directions to a place when it can't even visually show me those directions.
I mean hell can this thing even download and let you listen to podcasts and music and such? People use their phones for more than booking appointments and ordering pizza. Even if this has entertainment features, they're still going to be way more limited and more annoying to navigate without a physical screen to touch. And you're limited to basically just audio media.
Ultimately it is quite literally trying to solve a problem that not only doesn't exist, but literally everything it can do can already be done faster and more easily with your phone.
Call me old fashioned, but I don't even want a computer that learns about me... To me a computer is a tool, I don't want a learning computer just as much as I don't want a learning hammer.
A computer is a tool that primarily works with information.
A hammer is a tool that is for physically hammering in something.
Of course I want my primary information tool to learn about me. I just don't want the drawbacks that come with that, such as others finding out stuff, or it misunderstanding, ...
The failure comes from their hubris. Expecting people to just adopt a new way of communicated because you wanted to fix society.
Sounds like a scam to me 😂, if its a piece of junk for 700 bucks, no thanks I'll use Gemini which it's not good but at least it's 100,000 times better than this piece of junk😂.
The people who make this should be ashamed of themselves and stop making crap like this anymore stop scanning people lol
The problems with AI Pin is that it does not bring anything new onto the market, and you have to pay a subscription for another mobile phone line for it to work. Many reviewers have mentioned the display (or lack off in light) on the hand, and that it has multiple issues. If they had done it without the need for another line, and just connected to your existing mobile it would have been better. Overall a poorly designed and executed product, very high initial cost, and the constant monthly mobile fee for it to work. Now they want to sell the company for around $1 billion, but it's probably not even worth maybe $25 to $50 million with the patients on the technology they invented. I don't see them selling the company, and it'll go under in less than a year.
Employees are afraid to speak out about issues... but Ken loves Apple design and people from Apple, so they care and it's not a scam. Still hiring after firing 10 people, but not a scam. Company looking to sell without even a successful product, but not a scam.
A good portion of this video was Ken arguing with his viewers from previous comments made calling it a scam. Dude, get a grip.
Apple fanboy. What else needs to be said besides that.
It needs to be repurposed to pair with AR glasses to make them more lightweight and "glasses" like, basically filling in the scans and processing necessary for a good AR experience
Wow...
In-Humane is copying the strategy of releasing unfinished products from AAA game studios.
It's an interesting idea with some potential, but as you said, marred by poor execution which -- to a certain degree -- is due to it being ahead of what is technologically feasible today. Thanks for an excellent, in depth, and balanced review.
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If you don’t want to use your phone just don’t use it! You don’t need to buy another tech to not use your phone! How hard is this to understand?
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Apple Intelligence literally replaces the pin perfectly
No way you just actually just said “apple intelligence” unironically 😂😂😂
@@LaidBackDeveloper uh, that's what the feature is called. what are you on lol
@@LaidBackDeveloperbut that’s the thing this and that stupid rabbit thing are solutions looking for problems that don’t exist everything these can do our phones already can…..
MKBHD made a video discussing this topic, saying that AI should be a feature, not a product.
Yup, and that was the main issue many people had with this (and Rabbit). Releasing a standalone device that does one thing that can eventually be replicated by software on a multi-functional device will mean sooner or later these devices will be literal paperweights. It reminds me of when someone once released a physical device that could only browse Wikipedia. That was it. In theory, it was supposed to get updates every so often because Wikipedia is always growing and changing, but no one saw any reason to buy a physical device when you could just get Wikipedia's app on your phone.
15:39 List of good things "reads post-it note"
freaking hilarious haha
Never going to happen. This is categorically a bad product, because it doesn't solve a problem. Its entire functionality is moot, as phones do it all, but better. Besides the goofy laser hand gimmick, it's just another phone with terrible features.
Phone overuse killing in-person communication & "presentness" is an absolutely GARGANTUAN problem. Whether this is the solution is ofc debatable, but to pretend it's not trying to solve a legitimate major problem is absolutely delusional.
@Ajarylee-qh9ln Going without a broadly phone like device is literally impossible for most people. There's DEFINITELY a market for a device that can do most of a phone's functions without being an attention stealer and time sink. Something that lets your stay present in the moment in the way that is absolutely antithetical to the attention dominator that is a phone screen.
@Ajarylee-qh9ln 🤦...😑 Except that most people don't have that much self control when it comes to modern smartphone addiction. If they have their phone on them, then they are going to use it whenever they are even the most ever so slightly bored, no if's, and's, or but's about it. That's the ENTIRE reason the modern highly successful "deliberately dumb phone" market even exists dumbarse.
The best and most successful way to break the modern "screen scrolling addiction" chain is to make it so it's not even possible for you to start.
Do you like not know any other people than yourself or something? O_o It's not like this sh!t is uncommon or anything like that. Smartphone addiction is the preeminent plague of modern humanity in the exact same way opioid addiction was in the 00's, just SIGNIFICANTLY more widespread but with less dead people.
(Although still definitely not none, or even CLOSE to none with how many people die driving cars due to using their phones bc they're so addicted that they simply CANNOT WAIT until they're done driving to interact w/ it. 🤷)
You broke the algorithm with that last question!
This feels like one of those cases where in ten or fifteen years we'll be saying that this product was way ahead of the time.
Trying to do a product that's supposed to be easier to integrate in your life than a smartphone, and then choosing to work with technology that can't fit into that form factor and thus needs a cloud connection for most of everything, isn't being ahead of time. It's betting on the wrong technology.
When we ever achieve the ability to do that stuff on device then I'll consider using such a tool for important every day tasks.
Before that's the case it's at best useful for gimmicks, and I've got enough of these already.
No, no we won’t.
I don’t see where it is today but where it will be tomorrow with good AI. This can be great for the minimalist, disabled or elderly. I could even see ditching the cell phone but pairing it with a tablet for when you need to get more involved with something.
Feels like we're just a few short years away from the TNG comBadges!
And while I would applaud that normally... seems most of these companies are conviniently forgetting about the skyscraper-sized flying appartment complex holding high orbit overhead... running enough joules to power the whole of earth as it is right now for a fair decade and change...
Breaking the dependency on using screens is going to be very difficult as our entire cognition system (brain/mind) is optimized for visual input and processing.
This could have been a great Bluetooth accessory - take advantage of your phone’s existing processing and network connection and the subscription could have been reasonable. It would have been quite a bit cheaper too.
Making it a standalone device was a massive blunder and I suspect that, in hindsight, we’re going to look back and realize that it killed the company entirely.
Exactly. A very big dedication. It always never perfect at the beginning. I pray and wish them a very huge success. I really wanna see this company succeed in every way.
This was THE BEST ever review of the AI PIN. WOW. GREAT job! It was very honest and thorough! Amazing. And the very last line… about being like a teenager… it was spot on! It might survive all the downs and come back like a crazy good product after all, because the concept is GENIUS and the people behind it (although not great marketeers) seem to be very true to life and down to earth type of folks.
As I've commented a few times on other videos:
This product (and Vision Pro, but especially this one) still fail to answer the important question of: "Why do I need this?" Which itself breaks down to, "What is the killer app or purpose? What does this product do that either can't be done elsewhere, or does it so much better than anything else this is what I want to use?" That's my biggest issue with this pin. I never see myself choosing it over my smartphone or even my smartwatch. I can't find that one thing it does that is totally unique or is leagues above any other way of doing it. It's yet another example of "solution searching for a problem."
And that's not even commenting on the base price + it needing a subscription. This was one of the few products I predicted to be dead on arrival, and I think history might prove us right.
The problem is: Even if the thing worked perfectly, it would simply have no advantage over a smartphone.
So they fired anyone who noted the product wasn't finished and require a subscription service for a glorified Siri?
Gosh I can't imagine this one failing 😂
I really love my pin and hope to see it do well, it has taken me from being stuck at my desk researching to being able to compute anywhere. To be honest I’d be really sad without this device (I’ve been using it for the past month) I admit it’s a niche product but if you have ever had an assistant, you’d know sometimes your assistant makes mistakes. Atleast with the pin you can call it an idiot to its screen less face
"Tech companies treating paying customers like beta testers" sums up what's wrong with so much of tech right now