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If you really expected something better from a community that gatekeeps subgenres of metal... then i don´t know what to tell you. Like, i love metal and all, but sometimes the community can be absolute doo-doo caca. It´s why i only stick to music and rarely watch metal news. extra note: Some bands and band members cook up drama as well. If you really think about it the metal scene ain´t as different as the pop groups they like to shit on.
Bring Me will forever be my number 1. But aside from that, im fucking stoked to see what all jordan goes and does with his career. Incredibly talented dude that deserves his flowers.
Man it’s bittersweet Jordan leaving cuz it’s understandable; the guy has a family and wants to focus on that at the moment. Of course it’s a major blow to fans since he was instrumental and a huge factor for BMTH creating true masterpieces of music. The guy is just phenomenal. No drama here man! Ppl acting like something nefarious was going on smh 🤦♂️ chiiiiilllll
Jordan played a really big part in making bmth famous worlwide and among the younger generation..and is still creating masterpieces for Architects and other bands..its kind of sad he's not part of bmth anymore, and I hope one day they will collaborate again
Didnt he say he just wanted more time with his family. Idk why yall looking for drama lol. It became too much of his life, Like Oli said they wrote nonstop. He didnt have time for his family and the band was probably draining his mental health because of it. So even if they had a "falling out" I doubt its anything big
I think he ain’t sayin the whole story, he always say he and Jordan were good after the lad left the band but the mf deleted all his instagram pictures tours/shows/studio time with em.
Oli also said off course its not like just because of different creative decisions, but he also dont elaborate more why the exact problem is and tell more about the band becoming too much of oli and jordan show
I’m excited to see what Jordan does in the future, I’m excited to see how the rest of BMTH does moving forward with all they learned from Jordan. They existed before him and they will exist after him, but I do think his presence will be missed both in the studio and in the live performances, but I believe in this band. The one thing I worry about is if they start to lose their self-produced edge :/ but I have faith
love him but the jotrdan addition was pop. think of artists like thrown, or wage war. bmth was deathcore turned pop and now ollie is maining again the screams are getting more frequent with every song.
Jordan becoming part of the band definitely made them as big as they are today. I think he probably wanted more compensation possibly also more control and it was denied. So he felt used again like oli is describing from his past band. I’ll still listen and support both mixing friendship and business is always tricky but hopefully they’ll make up at some point.
I hope they both absolutely thrive in whatever they choose to do. I'm thankful to have become a fan during the beginning of Jordan's tenure with Sempiternal. Still one of my favorite albums of all time, and everything they made after that were masterpieces in their own way. Nex Gen was another one of my favorite albums, so I'm not too worried about the band's future. I'm absolutely sure that whatever Jordan does on his own will be just as great, and I'm living for it. He has already shown he can do it when he helped Architects put out one of their best singles in years. I doubt that'll be a full-time partnership, but if it is, I'm definitely a big fan of that. All love though. They both still have incredibly bright futures. ❤️🤙
(this is just a theory) I think Oli is holding some things to his chest but is indirectly telling us 75% of the truth in that Jordan got used to being the main or half of the main writing and musical driving force in his projects but maybe not getting the "full financial credit" or respect he felt he deserved for it. I think when BMTH started doing better and better commercially after his contributions, he started to feel like he wanted to "Stand up for himself" the way he maybe felt he didn't in the past in his other projects, in that "if I'm the one doing most of or half the work I should get more credit" but BMTH has always been a family where they shared everything equally, money, attention, credit, all of it. I think Oli may be softening the delivery of that in saying "we unknowingly distanced ourselves" but I think while it wasn't intentional it was conscious that Oli and Jordan were writing most things. I think the split was where Oli still wanted them all to be accredited and paid equally, but Jordan might've wanted more financially, being that he may've been contributing more. Especially with Jordan having become a dad not that long ago. I dont think the split was necessarily contemptuous as when Oli talks about it he seems more sad and a bit wounded or reminiscent, but I think words were said and heads probably did but and he likely did take up for Lee and the gang and Jordan felt maybe taken advantage of and exclude again where they felt like we were a family long before you and you're either sort of with us or against us and Oli and Jordan made their respective choices that lead to Jordan leaving. Old chose his brothers and Jordan feeling betrayed probably chose himself and his family and left to feel more "appreciated." But I have no idea. Just what I think from what I've heard, the timelines, and deductive reasoning.
when i was younger i hated when jordan joined because he changed the tone but as i got older i started to like all the music that was put out. however, im proud of how far bmth has come
While Jordan and Oli were getting each other off Lee, Mat, and Matt were in the studio playing like 3 chords and a few cymbal and snare hits like 🗿?🗿?🗿?
@@centristamerican7845 the newest video put out has him wearing another Red Sox hat that actually says Boston Red Sox on it with a baseball on it too. Pretty sure he knows lol. 😅
Being an artist / musician, touring all the time, being in the spotlight all the time causes burnout. It's okay to want a quieter life. Priorities change as you get older.
He probably asked for better terms and they said no so he left. Dude is way too talented he single handily saved this band from sinking. If you read this Jordan: you’re a beast and you deserve better.
Agree. Jordan made bmth what they are, taking what Oli said in this clip, it sounds like Jordan and Oli got too tight together and steered the band forward, leaving the other guys to the wayside, probably some jealousy but Jordan wised up and asked for his fair share and the band said no. I'll be following Jordan, he's one in a mill. Idk who bmth will get in now but it's a tough act to follow
@@Fhzorhsnxl like other bands that were able to destroy them? This ain't rap where dudes beefing for fun or other problems, why would they attack each other than just creating good music for people. xd
their best albums were with jordan, the band feels so generic since he left due to the lack of original sounds. ask to there is a hell, sempiternal and thats the spirit if you dont believe me
Jordan was the band! He saved BMTH. He deserves more than Oli is saying. Don’t be saying that Jordan left cos his work ethic was pushing the others out.
bruh was there for 10 years, tf you on?after 10 years its normal your way of thinking or what you are doing doesnt apeal and arent as fun as when you started some need changes some dont
@@mariofly243 Do you lot realise that people who join established bands after they have success often don't have cuts on big revenue streams ? Merchandise as an example. Guy is now guna make millions producing bands in his house. Why tf would he wanna carry on being mugged off by them
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metal fans acting like kpop groupies trying to find drama between jordan and oli lmfao
If you really expected something better from a community that gatekeeps subgenres of metal... then i don´t know what to tell you.
Like, i love metal and all, but sometimes the community can be absolute doo-doo caca. It´s why i only stick to music and rarely watch metal news.
extra note: Some bands and band members cook up drama as well. If you really think about it the metal scene ain´t as different as the pop groups they like to shit on.
@@coacksenmayasse5771And the line between metal and pop just gotten even blurrier.
"Metal" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
As a kpop stan as well as a metalhead - I 100% agree 😂
@@TamrielicScholarno sense...
Bring Me will forever be my number 1. But aside from that, im fucking stoked to see what all jordan goes and does with his career. Incredibly talented dude that deserves his flowers.
Definitely deserves his flowers
Mu exact thoughts
I also cannpt type wurds
Man it’s bittersweet Jordan leaving cuz it’s understandable; the guy has a family and wants to focus on that at the moment. Of course it’s a major blow to fans since he was instrumental and a huge factor for BMTH creating true masterpieces of music. The guy is just phenomenal. No drama here man! Ppl acting like something nefarious was going on smh 🤦♂️ chiiiiilllll
Jordan played a really big part in making bmth famous worlwide and among the younger generation..and is still creating masterpieces for Architects and other bands..its kind of sad he's not part of bmth anymore, and I hope one day they will collaborate again
Of course he didn't change the game just a little bit but they were already in the lead.
Didnt he say he just wanted more time with his family. Idk why yall looking for drama lol. It became too much of his life, Like Oli said they wrote nonstop. He didnt have time for his family and the band was probably draining his mental health because of it. So even if they had a "falling out" I doubt its anything big
I think he ain’t sayin the whole story, he always say he and Jordan were good after the lad left the band but the mf deleted all his instagram pictures tours/shows/studio time with em.
most likely NDA, and contracts
Oli also said off course its not like just because of different creative decisions, but he also dont elaborate more why the exact problem is and tell more about the band becoming too much of oli and jordan show
It felt weird seeing Noah Sebastian post a photo with him on his story the other day. I think Bad Omens and Jordan are definitely working together.
@@kinl0r Fish has also posted a few pictures with Architects. Idk what is brewing up
@@Sanjeet_1810 was reported he was working with spiritbox also
I’m excited to see what Jordan does in the future, I’m excited to see how the rest of BMTH does moving forward with all they learned from Jordan. They existed before him and they will exist after him, but I do think his presence will be missed both in the studio and in the live performances, but I believe in this band.
The one thing I worry about is if they start to lose their self-produced edge :/ but I have faith
Jordan was the best thig ever happen to BMTH, he elevated their sound to the max. He will be miss.
disagree
love him but the jotrdan addition was pop. think of artists like thrown, or wage war.
bmth was deathcore turned pop and now ollie is maining again the screams are getting more frequent with every song.
@@Doctorkarmah the last record they dropped had like one song with screams wdym more frequent?
@@weebsarecringe2102 post human had more screams because jordan wasn’t in it
@@Doctorkarmah on post but you literally said "screams are getting more frequent with every song" -Next gen rarily had any.
Maturing is realizing it's okay to grow apart! People change ❤
Jordan becoming part of the band definitely made them as big as they are today. I think he probably wanted more compensation possibly also more control and it was denied. So he felt used again like oli is describing from his past band. I’ll still listen and support both mixing friendship and business is always tricky but hopefully they’ll make up at some point.
I can actually understand what he’s saying. Been a fan of them for many years, I can truly say I get it. I’m not happy about it, but I get it.
I hope they both absolutely thrive in whatever they choose to do. I'm thankful to have become a fan during the beginning of Jordan's tenure with Sempiternal. Still one of my favorite albums of all time, and everything they made after that were masterpieces in their own way. Nex Gen was another one of my favorite albums, so I'm not too worried about the band's future. I'm absolutely sure that whatever Jordan does on his own will be just as great, and I'm living for it. He has already shown he can do it when he helped Architects put out one of their best singles in years. I doubt that'll be a full-time partnership, but if it is, I'm definitely a big fan of that. All love though. They both still have incredibly bright futures. ❤️🤙
(this is just a theory) I think Oli is holding some things to his chest but is indirectly telling us 75% of the truth in that Jordan got used to being the main or half of the main writing and musical driving force in his projects but maybe not getting the "full financial credit" or respect he felt he deserved for it. I think when BMTH started doing better and better commercially after his contributions, he started to feel like he wanted to "Stand up for himself" the way he maybe felt he didn't in the past in his other projects, in that "if I'm the one doing most of or half the work I should get more credit" but BMTH has always been a family where they shared everything equally, money, attention, credit, all of it.
I think Oli may be softening the delivery of that in saying "we unknowingly distanced ourselves" but I think while it wasn't intentional it was conscious that Oli and Jordan were writing most things. I think the split was where Oli still wanted them all to be accredited and paid equally, but Jordan might've wanted more financially, being that he may've been contributing more. Especially with Jordan having become a dad not that long ago.
I dont think the split was necessarily contemptuous as when Oli talks about it he seems more sad and a bit wounded or reminiscent, but I think words were said and heads probably did but and he likely did take up for Lee and the gang and Jordan felt maybe taken advantage of and exclude again where they felt like we were a family long before you and you're either sort of with us or against us and Oli and Jordan made their respective choices that lead to Jordan leaving. Old chose his brothers and Jordan feeling betrayed probably chose himself and his family and left to feel more "appreciated." But I have no idea. Just what I think from what I've heard, the timelines, and deductive reasoning.
Jordan changed the band forever. I will miss him. Take care out there 🤙
when i was younger i hated when jordan joined because he changed the tone but as i got older i started to like all the music that was put out. however, im proud of how far bmth has come
Most definitely my favorite rock band love oli
He sounds so americanised when he sings I had no idea oli was british I feel a fool lol
Jordan made them what they are today. I’m glad they had him, and Oli found direction.
While Jordan and Oli were getting each other off Lee, Mat, and Matt were in the studio playing like 3 chords and a few cymbal and snare hits like 🗿?🗿?🗿?
Oh shit. Oli is. Boston Red Sox fan? I support this!
I thought the same thing!
I'd be surprised if he actually knows who the red Sox are. His style is as fake as his new persona
@@centristamerican7845 the newest video put out has him wearing another Red Sox hat that actually says Boston Red Sox on it with a baseball on it too. Pretty sure he knows lol. 😅
I want the snare. Settle for the snare sample.
Boston 🎉🎉❤🎉❤🎉
Being an artist / musician, touring all the time, being in the spotlight all the time causes burnout. It's okay to want a quieter life. Priorities change as you get older.
😢
Count your blessings ⛽️
Some1 Tell me where that hoodie and trousers are from
Where is the full
Thought this was natanael cano for a sec 😂
OK LET'S GO BACK TO THE METALCORE OR DEATHCORE AGAIN OLI 🤟😺🤘
jordan left , so make a album like count your blessing again oli😅
He's accent
dayanameen
So what really happened to him?
He probably asked for better terms and they said no so he left. Dude is way too talented he single handily saved this band from sinking. If you read this Jordan: you’re a beast and you deserve better.
Agree. Jordan made bmth what they are, taking what Oli said in this clip, it sounds like Jordan and Oli got too tight together and steered the band forward, leaving the other guys to the wayside, probably some jealousy but Jordan wised up and asked for his fair share and the band said no.
I'll be following Jordan, he's one in a mill. Idk who bmth will get in now but it's a tough act to follow
@@JackIsaacQ Jordan is going to work with Architects or Bad Omens, and both these bands will destroy BMTH moving forward
@@Fhzorhsnxl bmth will be fine
@@Fhzorhsnxl like other bands that were able to destroy them? This ain't rap where dudes beefing for fun or other problems, why would they attack each other than just creating good music for people. xd
@@Fhzorhsnxl there is no need to destroy other bands to take off land.
Natanael Cano
their best albums were with jordan, the band feels so generic since he left due to the lack of original sounds. ask to there is a hell, sempiternal and thats the spirit if you dont believe me
Jorden wanted more money simple as that
Aweh
Bring me the horizon was way better before Jordan.
jordan is better off with slipknot tbh, he can replace tortilla man, that useless percussionist dude who can't even do backing vocals
Jordan was the band! He saved BMTH. He deserves more than Oli is saying. Don’t be saying that Jordan left cos his work ethic was pushing the others out.
They were probably paying him shit money so he dipped
and stayed for 10 years haha
*cooked*
bruh was there for 10 years, tf you on?after 10 years its normal your way of thinking or what you are doing doesnt apeal and arent as fun as when you started some need changes some dont
@@mariofly243 Do you lot realise that people who join established bands after they have success often don't have cuts on big revenue streams ? Merchandise as an example.
Guy is now guna make millions producing bands in his house. Why tf would he wanna carry on being mugged off by them
Nobody is getting paid shit money in BMTH, not a single other band from the core world is pulling nearly as much money as them
bmth is better off without jordan. dude is a great producer but everything he touches sounds the same, which is kinda boring.
Womp womp.