It would be cool if there was a more complex crime system that takes into account the game's lore and factions rather than a genetic wanted system. Like citizens trying to defend themselves or cops showing up much slower or Kang Tao patrolling Pacifica instead of cops.
@@rayyanali4471 That's what you can do with a standard encounter table in the tabletop RPG. You roll for how fast emergency services respond and decide what the chance is that a certain gang appears.
Trauma Team is such a missed opportunity. Imagine being a contractor for them and going as advanced reconaissance just when you're cruising the city. Or maybe a whole sidestory about their politics and their secret war against black clinics made from ex employees that offer free treatment to citizens.
@@tyrongkojy Trauma Team bills tack on ammunition and hazard pay depending on how hard they had to pull you out. You can call TT without a policy, but then they bill you by the minute.
@@chedsalvia6270 The hospital is a separate service. TT and its competitors only handles stabilization, emergency resucitation and transportation to a facility of your choosing.
@@mazdrpan4099 The TT guys pack an automatic cannon in their AV and are legally obliged to defend themselves, company equipment and clients with it. It's not as heavy as what the cops pack in their helicopters. They sometimes pass over the free fire zone with missiles to thin the numbers.
The part they don't like to talk about is client-poaching between TT and its competitors like REO Meatwagon. They are supposed to leave people with policies on another company on the street, but sometimes they "forget" to check it and pull unconcious people in anyways.
@@SusCalvin Huh, that's also really interesting. I wonder if they somehow force the people they save to pay for the treatment because, for example, they install cyberware replacing organs that they will deactivate if the patient doesn't pay.
TT and its competitors don't provide an entirely full coverage. Sometimes they have stipulations where they won't service too far out in the Badlands, into the worst free fire zones of the cities or intrude on corporate or government restricted airspace.
Trauma team is basically the American healthcare in a nutshell: "Before you and family starts bleeding on the sidewalk you better start bleeding those eddies choombas."
TT and its competitors prefers to have people as policyholders. It ties them to their service. You can call them up without a policy but then they charge by the minute instead. Having a TT policy means REO Meatwagon can't nab you off the street as easily, for example. If the REO guys find you, they're supposed to leave you for the TT crew.
Yep. The genre has never been afraid of tackling the darker side of progress, and how certain aspects of our culture can be used against us. But the reality of what's happening the US is more nuanced than that. There are many avenues for free healthcare, even before obamacare had been a thing. And when you consider the population size of the US, the quality and speed at which you can receive health care is incredible relative to the rest of the 1st world. It's why we get people from Canada coming south to pay for healthcare in the states rather than wait for it in Canada. (20,000 patients yearly.) We need to bring that quality of healthcare without the need for insurance providers inflating the cost of every little thing, obviously, but the reality is the US healthcare system is significantly better than people meme it out to be. You can get better care faster than much of the rest of the world, and there are free healthcare options for people like me who can't afford insurance if you are willing to wait (an average time that's still less than the Canadian, Australia, or the UK.
@@zxt5148 I never judge anything without experiencing it for myself. Without shadow of a doubt I can tell you the us system is pretty shit and I was on private and not the cheap kind. Can't imagine what people who are not as comfortable as me have to go through. Well I don't a simple Google search is all it takes and you'll see.
@@zxt5148 You don’t have to wait for healthcare if it’s a serious issue in Canada, and regardless, the reason wait times are longer is because everybody that has a health problem is getting it looked at. The same is not true here and it’s a goddamn shame. Being too poor to go to the doctor is sickeningly common in the US, and the fact you don’t recognize how prevalent that issue is proves to me you don’t have the proper perspective to discuss this issue in good faith.
It was possible to call for TT without a policy. They just charged you a lot more for that service. TT prefers people to get subscription to them instead of making one-off calls. It ties you to their service. There is competition between Trauma Team and companies such as Meatwagon REO. In theory they have the groundwork in place to avoid "claim jumping" patients/customers. Sometimes they have firefights with eachother over a patient.
Trauma Team and its competitors fight over patients. If a Meatwagon REO crew finds that you have a TT subscription, they don't do anything. They are there specifically for TT policyholders and callers. They are not supposed to pick up eachothers patients. Sometimes TT and Meatwagon "claim jump" patients and fight over them. TT can see a guy with a Meatwagon card, decide that this guy is theirs since the Meatwagon car was held off by an accidental autocannon round and start billing them for their service instead. An alternative was to break your card and call them to your location. Then they bill you by the minute, starting from when they receive your call. They don't like it themselves, getting people on a policy ties you to their service. Trauma Team often has stipulations in their plans. The urban free fire zones often lack TT coverage. The wildlands outside the cities lack coverage. Certain corporate enclaves that control their airspace can close coverage.
@@mikelramirez2585 The TT guys have the same security armour as cops and other obvious security staff. Cops walk around with similar armour in 2020, shielded helmets and flak vests. The combat medic armour has a few more options related to medical work. 2020 did not have combined, smart devices for example. Any diagnostic electronics needs to be carried as separate devices.
Their job was to get their client to the hospital, which they did. If they helped the family members, they'd: 1) Provide service for free, which would discourage other clients from buying family package. The team would get reprimanded for violating company policy. 2) Either need to stay longer at the crash site, while delaying getting their client to the hospital OR they'd need a second team for family members. None of this is a particularly good idea for the trauma team on the ground or for the company.
That's true, they could have rescued the remainder of the family and then put the family into crippling debt. And then sold off the debt to recoup their losses and maybe even some profit to someone who'd find a merc to harass that family for the remainder of the money. Family gets killed anyway, but everyone else makes money.
If you have the wrong policy, TT are supposed to drop you on the street. There's a couple emergency service providers, all of whom compete with eachother. TT staff are not supposed to service you if you have a Meatwagon REO policy.
@@MasterAdamonia It means you're screwed if you have brought a Trauma Team policy but REO Meatwagon are there first. They might check if you have a TT policy, and leave you as they are supposed to do. They could "forget" to check it and treat you like a policyless patient/customer, pull you into their AV and start billing you. TT and REO Meatwagon partly use their heavy weapons to deter eachother. Each city has a number of such services, and all of them compete fiercely with all the normal finesse of Cyberpunk 2020 corps.
"I looked all over, but I couldn't find the number...I'm kinda flush with cash right now...and I've got a cyber...head...thing...that's kind of fucking up (shut up Johnny!), so I'd like your best service...but I'll only need it for a few months. This thing will work it's way out one way or another..." -V
You bought Trauma Team (or Meatwagon REO) services by the month. It was pretty costly. The alternative was paying them by the minute, starting when you placed a call to them. That was even more expensive. When you buy a policy it means you buy the services of a specific provider. A Trauma Team medic will shove you back on the street if you have a Meatwagon card. Or try to "claim jump" you and bill you for their service.
One important note is that TT and its competitors (REO Meatwagon and others) usually don't run hospitals. A policy with them means they will pick you up, stabilize or recusitate you, put you in temporary cryo and truck you off to the care provider of your choice. They do not handle the continued treatment itself, that's on another policy.
@@huoshewu It was what you got if you had an emergency service policy in the basic game. Players could buy a policy if they liked. You rolled for how many minutes it took for their AV to appear (and how many saves your PC had to roll while waiting). When their AV arrived, they rolled their Medtech skill to stabilize you. The policy with a hospital or insurance provider or noting which street medic they should dump you at is separate. Without such a policy, I guess they might just drive you home to your apartment or leave you to walk home. Sometimes your condition doesn't need a hospital visit, TT guys can show up to slap your back if you get food down your throat.
@@SusCalvin Heh. Like, is there TT insurance if they basically raid your restaurant just to slap some rich person on the back? That would be crazy! At least everyone in the path would have a tale to tell if not a meal to eat.
Sci-fi visorless helmets usually have cameras and display what they record in a screen in front of your eyes or sometimes is like a sci-fi tainted glass that is tainted to look like the helmet's paint. Maybe the tiny dots on the visors are cameras.
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It'd be cool if when you killed a NPC on the richer parts of town, they showed up
It would be cool if there was a more complex crime system that takes into account the game's lore and factions rather than a genetic wanted system. Like citizens trying to defend themselves or cops showing up much slower or Kang Tao patrolling Pacifica instead of cops.
It'd be cool if the game worked
@@rayyanali4471 It would be cool if the cops wouldnt use quantum teleportation.
@@UltraNyan They have portable data terms
@@rayyanali4471 That's what you can do with a standard encounter table in the tabletop RPG. You roll for how fast emergency services respond and decide what the chance is that a certain gang appears.
Trauma Team is such a missed opportunity. Imagine being a contractor for them and going as advanced reconaissance just when you're cruising the city. Or maybe a whole sidestory about their politics and their secret war against black clinics made from ex employees that offer free treatment to citizens.
Another phantom pain.
Healthcare Enforcement Officers :P
I think CDPR had some ideas about trauma team lore, they just didn't have enough time.
@@limitlessuniverse9381 They didn't even include price for their services and description of most of their premium packages.
@@ShepardCZ surely they first bait you with a discount and then they up the prices.
Trauma Team: Saving lives (and taking them.)
XD
And charging you for the bullets they used on you.
@@tyrongkojy Trauma Team bills tack on ammunition and hazard pay depending on how hard they had to pull you out. You can call TT without a policy, but then they bill you by the minute.
"NO CRED NO MED"? :)
@@chedsalvia6270 The hospital is a separate service. TT and its competitors only handles stabilization, emergency resucitation and transportation to a facility of your choosing.
sad to see that they were just nothing more than npc in this game
you paid to get to the hospital and by God you are getting there.
Jesus, these guys were SO cool, wish more were done with them.
Shoot them wherever you see them, they drop good loot.
@@mazdrpan4099 Wouldnt consider it good
Coolest Username yeah and you can’t use it until max level, nor does it sell for a particularly high amount
@@mazdrpan4099 The TT guys pack an automatic cannon in their AV and are legally obliged to defend themselves, company equipment and clients with it.
It's not as heavy as what the cops pack in their helicopters. They sometimes pass over the free fire zone with missiles to thin the numbers.
Shows how little does the city care about it's citizens.
On another note, we need more DLC with those guys.
The fact that they use such a thing as a way to advertise this service and not to scare away people from using it.
The part they don't like to talk about is client-poaching between TT and its competitors like REO Meatwagon. They are supposed to leave people with policies on another company on the street, but sometimes they "forget" to check it and pull unconcious people in anyways.
@@SusCalvin Huh, that's also really interesting. I wonder if they somehow force the people they save to pay for the treatment because, for example, they install cyberware replacing organs that they will deactivate if the patient doesn't pay.
do your part, be sure to spray at trauma team members with your Ajax from a concealed position when possible
TT and its competitors don't provide an entirely full coverage. Sometimes they have stipulations where they won't service too far out in the Badlands, into the worst free fire zones of the cities or intrude on corporate or government restricted airspace.
I would love a "COPS" show that followed the NCPD.
Trauma team is basically the American healthcare in a nutshell:
"Before you and family starts bleeding on the sidewalk you better start bleeding those eddies choombas."
TT and its competitors prefers to have people as policyholders. It ties them to their service. You can call them up without a policy but then they charge by the minute instead.
Having a TT policy means REO Meatwagon can't nab you off the street as easily, for example. If the REO guys find you, they're supposed to leave you for the TT crew.
America right... hmmm Sounds about right🤷🏾♂️
Yep. The genre has never been afraid of tackling the darker side of progress, and how certain aspects of our culture can be used against us.
But the reality of what's happening the US is more nuanced than that. There are many avenues for free healthcare, even before obamacare had been a thing. And when you consider the population size of the US, the quality and speed at which you can receive health care is incredible relative to the rest of the 1st world. It's why we get people from Canada coming south to pay for healthcare in the states rather than wait for it in Canada. (20,000 patients yearly.)
We need to bring that quality of healthcare without the need for insurance providers inflating the cost of every little thing, obviously, but the reality is the US healthcare system is significantly better than people meme it out to be. You can get better care faster than much of the rest of the world, and there are free healthcare options for people like me who can't afford insurance if you are willing to wait (an average time that's still less than the Canadian, Australia, or the UK.
@@zxt5148 I never judge anything without experiencing it for myself. Without shadow of a doubt I can tell you the us system is pretty shit and I was on private and not the cheap kind. Can't imagine what people who are not as comfortable as me have to go through.
Well I don't a simple Google search is all it takes and you'll see.
@@zxt5148 You don’t have to wait for healthcare if it’s a serious issue in Canada, and regardless, the reason wait times are longer is because everybody that has a health problem is getting it looked at. The same is not true here and it’s a goddamn shame. Being too poor to go to the doctor is sickeningly common in the US, and the fact you don’t recognize how prevalent that issue is proves to me you don’t have the proper perspective to discuss this issue in good faith.
Funny, I was just reading Trauma Team
It was possible to call for TT without a policy. They just charged you a lot more for that service. TT prefers people to get subscription to them instead of making one-off calls. It ties you to their service.
There is competition between Trauma Team and companies such as Meatwagon REO. In theory they have the groundwork in place to avoid "claim jumping" patients/customers. Sometimes they have firefights with eachother over a patient.
Trauma Team and its competitors fight over patients. If a Meatwagon REO crew finds that you have a TT subscription, they don't do anything. They are there specifically for TT policyholders and callers. They are not supposed to pick up eachothers patients.
Sometimes TT and Meatwagon "claim jump" patients and fight over them. TT can see a guy with a Meatwagon card, decide that this guy is theirs since the Meatwagon car was held off by an accidental autocannon round and start billing them for their service instead.
An alternative was to break your card and call them to your location. Then they bill you by the minute, starting from when they receive your call. They don't like it themselves, getting people on a policy ties you to their service.
Trauma Team often has stipulations in their plans. The urban free fire zones often lack TT coverage. The wildlands outside the cities lack coverage. Certain corporate enclaves that control their airspace can close coverage.
"Yeah but can you imagine how bad it'd be if we had Single Payer healthcare"
I hope you can wear their uniforms at some point, i love the visorless helmets!
How do they see out of those things?
@@randomcenturion7264 The same way you can see out from some windowless cars the game has i guess.
@@mikelramirez2585 The TT guys have the same security armour as cops and other obvious security staff. Cops walk around with similar armour in 2020, shielded helmets and flak vests.
The combat medic armour has a few more options related to medical work. 2020 did not have combined, smart devices for example. Any diagnostic electronics needs to be carried as separate devices.
Trauma indeed...
damn that helmet looks cool
Am I the one who thinks it's messed up they just left the the rest of the family without hesitation.
They're not called Trauma Team for nothing you know.
No, they should have had trauma teams family care promotion. They're not saving lives for free, you know.
yea you're definitely the only one that thinks the family should receive services for which they haven't paid for
Their job was to get their client to the hospital, which they did. If they helped the family members, they'd:
1) Provide service for free, which would discourage other clients from buying family package. The team would get reprimanded for violating company policy.
2) Either need to stay longer at the crash site, while delaying getting their client to the hospital OR they'd need a second team for family members.
None of this is a particularly good idea for the trauma team on the ground or for the company.
That's true, they could have rescued the remainder of the family and then put the family into crippling debt. And then sold off the debt to recoup their losses and maybe even some profit to someone who'd find a merc to harass that family for the remainder of the money. Family gets killed anyway, but everyone else makes money.
This is what not having a health care plan in US feels like 💰💀
Really hope in future updates we can roleplay TT with proper misc（generic） quests.
I wonder if you can even see a city ambulance in game
Well I don't recall seeing any...
So what do they do when they get an itch on their face?
Gonna need actual TTI characters appearances int the future? Just like the TT comics for example.
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TRUMA team is kinda messed up
What's wrong with this story? It sounds like it was supposed to be creepy or something
If you have the wrong policy, TT are supposed to drop you on the street. There's a couple emergency service providers, all of whom compete with eachother. TT staff are not supposed to service you if you have a Meatwagon REO policy.
@@SusCalvin And?
@@MasterAdamonia It means you're screwed if you have brought a Trauma Team policy but REO Meatwagon are there first. They might check if you have a TT policy, and leave you as they are supposed to do. They could "forget" to check it and treat you like a policyless patient/customer, pull you into their AV and start billing you. TT and REO Meatwagon partly use their heavy weapons to deter eachother. Each city has a number of such services, and all of them compete fiercely with all the normal finesse of Cyberpunk 2020 corps.
"I looked all over, but I couldn't find the number...I'm kinda flush with cash right now...and I've got a cyber...head...thing...that's kind of fucking up (shut up Johnny!), so I'd like your best service...but I'll only need it for a few months. This thing will work it's way out one way or another..." -V
You bought Trauma Team (or Meatwagon REO) services by the month. It was pretty costly. The alternative was paying them by the minute, starting when you placed a call to them. That was even more expensive.
When you buy a policy it means you buy the services of a specific provider. A Trauma Team medic will shove you back on the street if you have a Meatwagon card. Or try to "claim jump" you and bill you for their service.
One important note is that TT and its competitors (REO Meatwagon and others) usually don't run hospitals. A policy with them means they will pick you up, stabilize or recusitate you, put you in temporary cryo and truck you off to the care provider of your choice. They do not handle the continued treatment itself, that's on another policy.
@@SusCalvin Did you see that in the game, or is that from the books or what? That's an interesting nugget of info.
@@huoshewu It was what you got if you had an emergency service policy in the basic game. Players could buy a policy if they liked. You rolled for how many minutes it took for their AV to appear (and how many saves your PC had to roll while waiting). When their AV arrived, they rolled their Medtech skill to stabilize you.
The policy with a hospital or insurance provider or noting which street medic they should dump you at is separate. Without such a policy, I guess they might just drive you home to your apartment or leave you to walk home. Sometimes your condition doesn't need a hospital visit, TT guys can show up to slap your back if you get food down your throat.
@@SusCalvin Heh. Like, is there TT insurance if they basically raid your restaurant just to slap some rich person on the back? That would be crazy! At least everyone in the path would have a tale to tell if not a meal to eat.
Isent this just America now?
No, America just takes everyone to the ER and traps them in debt.
How do they see through this mask? xD
Sci-fi visorless helmets usually have cameras and display what they record in a screen in front of your eyes or sometimes is like a sci-fi tainted glass that is tainted to look like the helmet's paint.
Maybe the tiny dots on the visors are cameras.
Same as you can see in those new cars without Windows
It could be a simple glare protection. Medical combat suits usually have electronics and displays for medical work in them.
D:
nein nein nein nein Trauma Team
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