A safer thing would be to catch them when they're locking their bikes up with these, and make a bet that you can destroy it this easily. That way you don't have to worry about looking like a thief.
At my bike shop, we had a model we would use to show customers how it worked. We learned that (like a zip tie) you can shimmy a strip of metal between the band and the lock and just... Open it. No tin snips needed, I did it with a soda can, a piece of scrap, and even a box knife.
The security of locks like that (and like the TSA luggage locks or trying to lock a tent) are mostly just in the device as a deterrent. Many people are not very clever and/or wouldn’t want to be caught manipulating a lock or eg cutting a tent open. That’s being generous though, these companies should be ashamed of putting out products that are so unfit for their purpose. A super light lock that provided a lot of actual security would sell quite well, but with the current engineering trade offs of size, price, and available materials, it doesn’t seem like there’s a great way to do that, and given the motivation and access to probably-stolen angle grinders with cutoff discs, the only real way to win the bike theft game is to not lock an expensive bike on the street in any kind of urban area.
@@seanp2k617 There are thousands of locks that have the same size but are a 100 times safer than this overpriced Lock Shaped Object. Even a simple string of hardened steel would do ways better since you cant just go their with a pair of Metal snippers or apparently even a long flat piece of metal of any sorts and be gone in 2 seconds. That no deterrant - thats an invitation.
@@seanp2k617 There are angle grinder proof u-locks. Ive seen 2 models tested where theives tried to cut them with a grinder for 10 minutes before finally giving up. Unfortunatley they also weigh almost 6lbs... about 4 kryptonite evolution mini's, or 1.5 kryptonite NY locks.
I love how he used the EXACT same tin snips featured in the commercial for the lock. The very same ones they claimed couldn't cut through. Literally the same model down to the color of the grips 🤣😭
The best part is, you can probably repair that cut you made in the lock with a couple wraps of duct tape and it'll be even more secure than the rest of the band
No kidding i used one of these locks for my Diamond Marquise bike which is really expensive because its my triathlon bike and when i saw this video my heart sank. The sinking only continued when the title is "cut in 2 seconds". I was thinking god damn 2 seconds hopefully its with a specialty tool or something right? Right? But the 10 dollar tin snips were a overwhelming success to my dismay, thanks to this video i no longer use that lock.
@@kyleb5518 if I buy a golden ring that comes with a piece of cloth to clean it. Would you consider the price of the cloth as the total price divided by 2? What kinda logic is that.
Kevlar is useful in protecting against bullets, but not against scissors. Did not anyone worry about that at the latest when manufacturing, as they cut the Kevlar mats with scissors?
@@sylviarohge4204 People see "Kevlar" and they think "Wow, that's an impossibly-strong material! It can stop a bullet so it must be impervious to anything!"
@@3rdalbum Kevlar layered right can stop a bullet. Yet in truth, it is useless against anything that cuts. Better off making the thing with cotton layers. Personally, if I was going to make something. I'd go with a Chainmail sleeve with Kevlar woven in it. Gives it the flexibility it needs but also the strength to protect.
I work with a bike-sharing company, and one of the bikes I had to work on was attached to the leg of an apartment's fire escape using a lock exactly like this one, but in orange. It even has marks of two failed attempts to cut it, but I didn't have to cut it off, because I was able to guess the combination fairly easily, thanks to skills I learned from watching your videos. I've kept that lock as a trophy, and will be using it as a decoy or secondary lock to whatever i'm riding.
Kevlar is used to stop high energy impacts. Why any company would believe kevlar and extremely thin steel would work great to stop cutting tools is beyond me.
Kevlar is used in chainsaw chaps because a sawing motion will be stopped because the strands bind up the chain, so same concept here it's supposed to help prevent sawing not shearing
That 2 seconds was majorly occupied by the safety lock on the shears, meaning that a lock meant to be opened with one finger was more difficult to infiltrate than a $50 bike lock.
Breakdown of 2 seconds: - latching open the safety on the tool: 1.2 seconds - grabbing the lock: 600 milliseconds - cutting the lock open: 200 milliseconds
I have never seen someone say "It's better than nothing" with such disgust and remorse, and for a second I thought he'd say "Between this and nothing, I'd choose nothing."
Either way, you're willing to openly donate your bicycle or motorcycle to any curious bystanders, so going with nothing at all over this lock at least won't cost you and additional 45 to 60 dollars.
No response from Ottolock on this one, eh? They were pretty quick to respond to BosnianBill's! How embarrassing. Ottolock even has one of those videos up on their channel showing, gosh darnit, how hard it is to cut one of their cables! It's like watching people fail at life on an infomercial.
They responded by accusing LPL to have cheated by using "...highly produced or under extremely controlled or tuned conditions..." bikeportland.org/2018/12/12/cut-in-2-seconds-is-the-ottolock-really-that-easy-to-snip-293135 Then they introduced a more costly model with a slightly thicker band, which can be cut almost as easily : th-cam.com/video/D15QH72xfPA/w-d-xo.html
Some TH-camrs review things and the products become hard to get because they have suddenly become popular. LPL reviews something and the products become hard to get because he has put the company out of business.
masterlock is still in business, so i think you're overvaluing his crits. masterlock doesnt sell locks, they sell the illusion of security and the illusion is all most people can afford.
@@clowdyallday5365it's all most people want. the illusion of security the illusion of safety the illusion of comfort they'll sell everything they have to get those illusions too.
I work with tin snips and gauging by how much effort you put in I feel comfortable saying that my kitchen scissors could probably also cut through that shit.
This lock may be better than nothing, but nothing doesn't cost so much! :) And a normal ziptie works just fine if we're talking about "better than nothing". Awesome vid, as always!
I used to buy the cheapest gloves at the hardware store for work. They were called "Hand Jobs" and the tagline on their own packaging was, "Better than nothing." Ottolock should have done that.
A cheap chain lock doesn't have that much weight and would be better. Though ever numnberered cylinder lock they can easily be picked. If you are going to use combo lock use pad lock. First you gt more numbes so even by brute force as n trying every combo it would take less time. 10^4 = 10000(if i has numbers some use less.) combo pad locks at least 36^3 = 46,656 over 4.6 timss as many numbers and yu harder to pick the lock as cylinder will move a bit with when you have the right number satrting from back to front.
I can only imagine the panic, when people who run these companies learn one of their products is in an episode of the LockPickingLawyer. Then, I would love to be a fly on the wall, seeing them watch that episode. This one has to have been particularly painful and humiliating. Well deserved!
Legitimately a source of income for a lot of people with drug problems, the cops in most countries don’t do shit about bike theft. Here’s a crime number, contact your insurer, yada yada, bye..
When I worked in a bike shop, we would jimmy these locks whenever we were bored. The mechanism is identical to a zip tie, and it can be jimmied by just slipping a thin piece of metal (razor blade, strip of Aluminium can, thin flathead screwdriver) between the strap and the mechanism.
A cycling group using it at their coffee stop just makes me frantic. Like, it would take a passionate bike thief very little effort to realize "Oh hey the cycling club stops at Starbucks every sunday at 10" and just roll up with a truck and a pair of snips and snatch 2 or 3 up easy.
@@Cabbage-dk6nu The best bike security would to simply have one member watch the bikes at all time, and that's free. An alert human presence alone will discourage most thefts.
The logic is if you have a lock that takes 3 hours to cut through, and you leave it out for 8 hours while you go to work, and the bike costs 10000 then that's 3000 per hour salary for thieves. If you do a quick stop and can just run out quickly then it's not gonna be worth it.
It seems this was made for people with more money than brains. Kevlar has some great properties but I fail to see how it makes this lock any better than a few strands of cable that would use the same space and provide some resistance to the tin snips. A sucker and his money are easily parted.
If oblivious hype sells well enough, why bother investing in design effort that extends beyond the packaging and buzzwords. Just wait for the premium version to come out with carbon fiber.
@Ed JackWhat a waste of American workers time and hard earned dollars. The price doesn't make it bad, its the value you get for that price and I doubt that you could chalk that up only to labour costs.
if there were real-life standards, made by the government, most locks would fail. I do not understand why bike shops are selling shity locks anyway. Fraud to the customer.
@@IngoPagels Have you ever picked open someones door in front of them? They act like you are a bad guy even though you did it for them. It blows their sense of security and belief in locks out of the water. It upsets them to no end, so they attach the messenger. Most people's home security is a joke as are most bike locks. Or you get the other extreme. A million dollar lock on a cheap wood and glass door with open windows on the second story with a nice tree there to climb.
I dont share your comment; at least not 100%. "Educating" a person can have positive feedback. Most people are ignorant and unawarefull. Maybe they change there point and behavior, when something negative happens but not giving attention, this channel is educational and the guy recording it gives it a lot of attention, is negative cause no one is learning any lesson at all.
Good one lulz. Well, it does prevent grab n' run. I use something similar to secure my helmet to the bike (Z Lok hiplok.com/product/zlok1/). It literally can be opened by 2 needles (one bent paperclip). But it prevents people from just taking the helmet and insurance wise that is actually enough. I think even this flimsy lock can make all the difference in an insurance claim. Obviously, it might vary depending on the country, but at least here it would make the difference between getting the money (I would actually be quite happy with getting my bike stolen, it is 15 years old and I would get what I paid 15 years ago) and getting nothing.
@@shadowlord0162 Btw, this is what I use (you can easily spot how simple it would be to pick and possibly to cut) bikerumor.com/2017/03/14/hiplok-z-lok-adds-light-coffee-stop-security-reusable-steel-reinforced-zip-ties/ But for my use, it is ideal. It is cheap and light.
@@etherealicer they only prevent retarded grab n runs from small children or young teens. a thief with half a brain will steal it in seconds -somone who use to be in the criminal world
That seemed so easy that you should have used the remaining pieces to see what else would cut it. It would be nice to see if household scissors could cut it.
One of the Amazon reviews said he couldn't get it to open, so he cut it and called the manufacturer and was told, "it wasn’t really supposed to be successful against a real device that thieves would have" What a joke
It's called a "product-shaped object". Conspicuous design effort goes into producing something with tailored appearances and thereby implied functionality. Providing said functionality often seems to not be a design goal. It exists to produce a favorable emotional response in exchange for money.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC ive talked to owners of ottolocks and they seem pretty happy with them. The real problem I have is the price point. It has all the cut resistance of a $5 cable. For ten times as much.
@Ed Jack bill did a video too. Worse than this one. Lpl was really nice to them. They commented on bills video and said they couldnt imagine why his LOCKS performed so poorly and offered to send him a new one to test. Never saw another video from bill. However ottolock themselves told me on fb that they had sent bill another sample and heard nothing back. A couple things could have happened. One bill did do a followup and I missed it. Two, Bill got the sample and it was a case of more shit from the same pile and he figured that if thats the best they had then why bother he'd already shown them to be shit locks why waste more time. Or ottolock lied outright or their social media person was misinformed when they spoke to me. I offered to test a sample and privately share the results with them. The never responded to that offer. Some random person started calling me names and crap tho. Odd. Lastly, and this is really unlikely, Bill got the sample and it totally whooped his ass. Like it ate his lock picks and spit out springs. And he was ashamed. Emasculated. Mortified. And he deleted the video. Like i said given the fact that bill regularly posts defeat videos, i think this is unlikely to be the case.
Not really - it's a value-for-money quality tool, properly maintained, it could last a decade... ...I mean, LPL bought a pair of Wiss snips, when he could afford any tin snips he wants, so I'd take that as an endorsement :)
Back in the seventies the Craftsman brand snips were awesome. As a Carpenter , using them every day on steel stud framing, they would last about six months until the spring broke. At that point you just returned them to Sears and got a replacement for free! Sears must have figured out they were losing money on these and rebranded them “Companion” instead of Craftsman and that was the end of that.
I could just imagine LPL going up to the Cyclists, bobby pin in hand and being like "Hello this is the locking picking lawyer, and today I am showing you why your bike locks are useless"
Dergvus I was on the toilet and I laughed so hard I fell off it. It’s a good job I had finished 30minutes before else I would have sprayed Waste all over the wall.
@@gabemartinez2558 $50 buys a lot of zip ties, and it would take a long time to cut all of them! (of course it would also take a long time to apply all of them, so as with any security solution, there are tradeoffs)
They are selling this shit for 50$+ because they declare you can't cut them. Then if you say it is better than nothing just buy a cheaper one at 10$ and it will work as good as this one.
I can't thank you enough for this review. I was seriously considering this lock thinking for the price and the lightweight option it has to be good. Just looking for something to secure the bikes for short times but this is not the answer. Thank you for saving my money to put towards something better!
I remember these. I never thought they were a good idea. I chuckled just as hard when I first saw them at I did when you cut through it in one try. I bet my pocket knife would work LOL
A lot of people have no clue what kevlar actually is, they only it's use in bullet resistant(proof in their cases) vests. Kevlar in this application is however utterly worthless and retarded. But it lets you slap a 100$ price tag on it and sell a fantasy to fuckwits. XD
Between this and nothing I would save my money and just secure my bike with a $20 bill in the hopes that a thief would be distracted and forget my bike altogether
that is even worser considering even people who don't normally steal would almost always go and pick up a dropped bank note more people would steal a bank note than would steal a bike so by the time a thief is there there is no cash left to tempt them and most likely the thief would take both anyway
I doubt OTTO cares. They're just another fleeting cash-grab startup looking to make easy money on a simple product that cost them almost nothing (cheap parts and materials with very little invested in research and development). Unfortunately the world is full of suckers who buy this crap just because it comes in cute hipster colors like matte green and matte orange. Those suckers also think that it must be a good lock if it's as ridiculously overpriced as it is. Sad.
T3rminat0r Only problem is that the best consulting advice to them would likely be “just stay out of the bike lock industry, you’re hopeless”. He may not get much return business!
In photography there is a mindset that the camera you have is better than the one at home. If your camera or lock is too heavy or so unwieldy that you don't bring it, or even worse, bring it and don't use it then a tool like this really is the best option for you. If someone plans to steal a bike then this won't stop them, but if it's just a terrible person who is walking or driving down the road and decides to steal the bike because it's convenient, this will likely stop them.
Have you seen the Kickstarter page for OTTOLOCK? It has pictures of *bolt cutters* trying to cut the lock and says "...but surprisingly stronger than meets the eye!". It also says "OTTOLOCK is extremely cut-resistant because of an engineered..." Really?
I'm so over Kickstarter... all these millennials and their "groundbreaking" product ideas which almost invariably will be hideously expensive, and either never be delivered, or a colossal flop like these.
They gap'd the blades of the snips on their own demonstration. Blades don't close on each other, this thing will survive. If it's a functional pair of snips tho...
Actually he and Bosnian Bill could look at your bike from 20 feet away and, 90% of the time, instantly KNOW exactly what lock you have, and what they would need to to to pick/bypass/snip/humiliate it.
I just watched the company's add and I was like really a lock that light and can snip it now looking at ur reviews omg they should be held accountable for any loss of property under their locks
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"It's better than Nothing" could be their new marketing slogan
Hahahahahahah!
How about “We Tried” 🥺
Probably gonna buy a bulk of zip ties and tie 6 on different places.
when i wah biking in USA i secured my bike with a gun lock"that i got for free somewhere. it was a thin cable (3-4mm wide) but still better than this
Nothing is better as money is better
just imagine someone running around cutting these and not even stealing the bikes just to make a statement
Even better, run around replacing these with zip ties
Albin Fröjd or master locks
Chaotic Good in a nutshell.
@@aSingularPhoton Go fiddling with any locks around here, and we're going to have a real problem.
A safer thing would be to catch them when they're locking their bikes up with these, and make a bet that you can destroy it this easily. That way you don't have to worry about looking like a thief.
In Germany we call these Locks "Geschenkband" - meaning gift ribbon
Leave it to the Germans to describe the situation in a single word.
Don't lie
@@leodf1 hes not, its a joke
diese gartenschere kostet warscheinlich weniger als dieser kabelbinder ahaha
Unsolide wie Kuchenblech!
At my bike shop, we had a model we would use to show customers how it worked. We learned that (like a zip tie) you can shimmy a strip of metal between the band and the lock and just... Open it. No tin snips needed, I did it with a soda can, a piece of scrap, and even a box knife.
The security of locks like that (and like the TSA luggage locks or trying to lock a tent) are mostly just in the device as a deterrent. Many people are not very clever and/or wouldn’t want to be caught manipulating a lock or eg cutting a tent open. That’s being generous though, these companies should be ashamed of putting out products that are so unfit for their purpose. A super light lock that provided a lot of actual security would sell quite well, but with the current engineering trade offs of size, price, and available materials, it doesn’t seem like there’s a great way to do that, and given the motivation and access to probably-stolen angle grinders with cutoff discs, the only real way to win the bike theft game is to not lock an expensive bike on the street in any kind of urban area.
@@seanp2k617 Lock a tent? Wtf lol
@@seanp2k617 There are thousands of locks that have the same size but are a 100 times safer than this overpriced Lock Shaped Object. Even a simple string of hardened steel would do ways better since you cant just go their with a pair of Metal snippers or apparently even a long flat piece of metal of any sorts and be gone in 2 seconds. That no deterrant - thats an invitation.
@@seanp2k617 There are angle grinder proof u-locks. Ive seen 2 models tested where theives tried to cut them with a grinder for 10 minutes before finally giving up.
Unfortunatley they also weigh almost 6lbs... about 4 kryptonite evolution mini's, or 1.5 kryptonite NY locks.
better to tie a bra around the wheel. For most people they take longer time to open
LOL
You know how disappointed I would be if a got a bra unclasped and there were no titties?
@@mgoo1713 that's the point because you shouldn't be stealing people's bikes.
I'm a virgin who knows how to do it :D
Hahaha so true
He wasted 55 bucks, but could’ve saved a few people about $2000+. What a guy
Not exactly a waste if you look at the view count 👀 probably made a few hundred bucks from this video at least
@@katyungodly 2.6m views - $4,187 - $6,978 revenue
@@dundermifflinity No revenue, video is less than 5 minutes long.
@@katyungodly And also spurred a wave of bike thefts, I imagine...
@@yupimrandy dude what are you talking about. Videos have to be at least 8 minutes long to qualify for mid roll ads
I love how he used the EXACT same tin snips featured in the commercial for the lock. The very same ones they claimed couldn't cut through. Literally the same model down to the color of the grips 🤣😭
The color of the grips are a way of telling what way the snips are supposed to cut. (yellow cuts in a straight line, red left, green right)
I just watched their commercial and has 63 like and 11.935 dislikes LOL.
Link to the commercial? I couldnt find the one where they used tin snips
@@are3287 th-cam.com/video/iwxyiV32V_k/w-d-xo.html
@@koshaz3x
Oh that was for the other model thats why I didnt find it lol. Thanks.
The best part is, you can probably repair that cut you made in the lock with a couple wraps of duct tape and it'll be even more secure than the rest of the band
😂😂😂 true!!??👍
I see no error here.
Just duct tape your bike to the rack, skip the middleman.
No probably not.
@@quokka_11learn to tie decent knots and bring a rope.
This is the only time i didn't agree with Lockpickinglawer and it is shame that he made very dishonest content, it was way less than 2 seconds.
He counted the time of picking the shears up off the table and putting them in position.
the joke: ^
your head:
@@Bob-jh6vk the joke: ^
your head:
The woosh was heard... but then the second woosh followed much closer than expected
r/woooosh
Everybody gangsta till the lock picking lawyer episode shorter than 3 minutes
@Toori Baba yea, basically
Hue hue hue, everyone's a gangsta but you're a piece of sht.
Everybody gangsta until LPL picks up a fork
No kidding i used one of these locks for my Diamond Marquise bike which is really expensive because its my triathlon bike and when i saw this video my heart sank. The sinking only continued when the title is "cut in 2 seconds". I was thinking god damn 2 seconds hopefully its with a specialty tool or something right? Right? But the 10 dollar tin snips were a overwhelming success to my dismay, thanks to this video i no longer use that lock.
What a shame...
World's most expensive zip tie.
I dunno, ever bought a Volvo towbar kit? if you divide the price by how many items you get your looking at $300 for a plastic zip tie
@@kyleb5518 if I buy a golden ring that comes with a piece of cloth to clean it.
Would you consider the price of the cloth as the total price divided by 2?
What kinda logic is that.
Ever heard of Off-White?
@@felixi2258 TRUE BRO
@@kyleb5518 what😂
Good advert. Solid product. Very useful. Under 10 bucks.
None of my stuff ever gets stolen. You know, because it's all shit. That seems to work better than any lock.
I literally laughed out loud at this, thanks for that!
@@Nebula_Ultra white people be poor too son.
It's more effective to bend a couple of spokes and drop your bike onto a gravel driveway a few times than to zip-tie it.
@@Nebula_Ultra hey Mr edgy racist. 1.fuck you 2. As a German dude. Nah. Your bike will get stolen eventually no matter where you park
Lol you're ignorant bud
two seconds is GENEROUS
Kevlar is useful in protecting against bullets, but not against scissors.
Did not anyone worry about that at the latest when manufacturing, as they cut the Kevlar mats with scissors?
@@sylviarohge4204 People see "Kevlar" and they think "Wow, that's an impossibly-strong material! It can stop a bullet so it must be impervious to anything!"
@@3rdalbum Kevlar layered right can stop a bullet. Yet in truth, it is useless against anything that cuts. Better off making the thing with cotton layers. Personally, if I was going to make something. I'd go with a Chainmail sleeve with Kevlar woven in it. Gives it the flexibility it needs but also the strength to protect.
two seconds in crackhead time.
its actually 4 at most. so yeah somebody quick can do it in 2
Damn!!! That is the best 10 dollar snips review I have ever seen, 5 Stars LMAO
Haik Dzhiganyan Own the same pair. Pretty good for the price.
@@LancasterResponding I do heating/metal work and Wiss Snips are actually the best for 99% of applications
@@oopygoopy69 i was going to say the same thing. They make quite high quality fabric scissors as well.
@@oopygoopy69 It is cheap but does its job and you wont cry when you lost it. Mine is about 30 years old and I found at least 6 pairs in the ceiling
@@oopygoopy69 i do AV and low voltage. The small Wiss shears have replaced my entire teams electrician scissors. They're sharp and durable as hell.
The best advert for Wiss snips ever.
"A group of cyclists used these" ah now I know where you got the lock from.
I think he picked the bike to steal the lock.
😂😂😂 so he really didn't buy it?😂😂😂
@@spotop81 congrats you got the joke!
Doing those cyclists a favor if you ask me.
@@emanuil1046 Read it again. You didn't get his joke.
Ottolock: Nooo you can't just cut our bike lock!
LPL: Haha scissors go snip
Ah, I see you're a man of culture
Lol I own the same metal shears.
Ottolock: Nooooo! Don't cut our lock on camera!
LPL: snip.
Ottolock: Please let us sell our company before you post this!
@@amandajensen3382 yeah me too lol, they're great
Ok....
You spent $55 , but probably saved thousands for us viewers. Thank you
* also 2 100 098 views...
I work with a bike-sharing company, and one of the bikes I had to work on was attached to the leg of an apartment's fire escape using a lock exactly like this one, but in orange.
It even has marks of two failed attempts to cut it, but I didn't have to cut it off, because I was able to guess the combination fairly easily, thanks to skills I learned from watching your videos.
I've kept that lock as a trophy, and will be using it as a decoy or secondary lock to whatever i'm riding.
I love unlocking combination locks just to troll the owners.
The true purpose of the ottolock is to make the a potential thief rolling over the floor laughing and forget what his original intention was.
But is Made in U.S.A.!
@@its1110 I'm willing to bet this was designed in California.
A Biden voter...
Tamper evident lock. When the lock is laying on the ground where your bike used to be, you know someone messed with it.
Right
Kevlar is used to stop high energy impacts. Why any company would believe kevlar and extremely thin steel would work great to stop cutting tools is beyond me.
Kevlar is used in chainsaw chaps because a sawing motion will be stopped because the strands bind up the chain, so same concept here it's supposed to help prevent sawing not shearing
@@DegeN.YNation Who saws through a cable tie.
@@Person01234 idk someone without cutters who wants to steal something? It's the only logic that makes sense here for kevlar buddy
Marketing.
No company believes that but idiots with more money than sense do.
I laughed so freaking hard when you cut it this easy
Same 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Me too
Yeah that was pretty hilarious.
looooool
lollipop YUMMY lol same
That 2 seconds was majorly occupied by the safety lock on the shears, meaning that a lock meant to be opened with one finger was more difficult to infiltrate than a $50 bike lock.
true
Breakdown of 2 seconds:
- latching open the safety on the tool: 1.2 seconds
- grabbing the lock: 600 milliseconds
- cutting the lock open: 200 milliseconds
Thank you, I was waiting for a professional analysis
I was thinking the same thing. He completely exaggerated! That was nowhere near two seconds; it was less!
Kowalski analyse
May as well use zip ties instead of this.
multiple large zip ties will take longer to cut... only issue is that you can cut them with scissors or a blade
There are power linesman zipties that have an imbeded steel strip that would really be harder to cut.
@@firstgoinpostal Harder to open by the owner, too.
I bet of you zip tied it on like every spoke, every inch of metal basically glued it to a metal railing with zipties, it would be safe. Even from you.
her u go the hiplok z lok is something worth cringing over
I have never seen someone say "It's better than nothing" with such disgust and remorse, and for a second I thought he'd say "Between this and nothing, I'd choose nothing."
If he had to pay for this lock to not get nothing, I'm sure he would prefer nothing.
Ed Rooney: "Between grief and nothing, I'll take grief."
Sloane Peterson: "Great."
Either way, you're willing to openly donate your bicycle or motorcycle to any curious bystanders, so going with nothing at all over this lock at least won't cost you and additional 45 to 60 dollars.
Nah, at least you'll hear the thief laughing at you as they ride away with your bike after buying this
@@jayyyzeee6409 you've been most comforting Jayyy
Masterlock: Dear Otto, impressive. Let’s get coffee sometime.
After a nice bike ride.....
I'd say it's worse than nothing, at least "nothing" doesn't cost you 100 bucks.
It might cost you your bike...
@@cheese_man4952 from the looks of the vid it will cost that either way.
@@Tomeroche Haha fair point!
@@Tomeroche It's not everyday someone's carrying some bolt cutters in their pocket when on the street.
@@kbxbrdr Yeah, and the ones that steal bikes are the ones that do.
No response from Ottolock on this one, eh? They were pretty quick to respond to BosnianBill's! How embarrassing. Ottolock even has one of those videos up on their channel showing, gosh darnit, how hard it is to cut one of their cables! It's like watching people fail at life on an infomercial.
They introduced new version with "2.5x more steel", but it is still pretty thin.
Not even the very late Billy Mays would have endorsed this as a 'fantastic product'
@@GothaRsk he tested it nw lol come and watch the video if you hvnt xD
They responded by accusing LPL to have cheated by using "...highly produced or under extremely controlled or tuned conditions..." bikeportland.org/2018/12/12/cut-in-2-seconds-is-the-ottolock-really-that-easy-to-snip-293135
Then they introduced a more costly model with a slightly thicker band, which can be cut almost as easily : th-cam.com/video/D15QH72xfPA/w-d-xo.html
@@GothaRsk See LPL's latest video. Same tin snips. Two seconds using two hands.
th-cam.com/video/D15QH72xfPA/w-d-xo.html
Electrical tape is harder to cut than that thing... Sheesh.
Insanejughead tell me about it. That is probably a better and cheaper security method
The sad thing is that it's true lol. The tape is gonna fold or it cuts slightly before stretching into a mess and it's gonna stick to everything.
True story
But you’re right
With the price of that lock you could buy so much electrical tape a nuke wouldent break your bike out
Some TH-camrs review things and the products become hard to get because they have suddenly become popular. LPL reviews something and the products become hard to get because he has put the company out of business.
masterlock is still in business, so i think you're overvaluing his crits. masterlock doesnt sell locks, they sell the illusion of security and the illusion is all most people can afford.
@@clowdyallday5365it's all most people want.
the illusion of security
the illusion of safety
the illusion of comfort
they'll sell everything they have to get those illusions too.
Keep up the good work! Love what you do.
Well, people can now stop asking me if I found Jesus. How's it going man? You haven't happen to see Waldo out and about, have you?
Hey, I miss you in South Park show. Any chance for making appearence this season? I mean Satan did, so should you
Say hi to your dad for me, I think he's inviting me over to your place in a couple years.
u are not real
This is a confirmed account
I work with tin snips and gauging by how much effort you put in I feel comfortable saying that my kitchen scissors could probably also cut through that shit.
Didn't even need bulldogs.
I have a feeling that LPL has very strong hands though.
I have a pair of cutco scissors that I know for a fact could cut that shit.
Medical shears would do it.
"They stopped at an unseen location with a lock I though was weak. So I had to do testing."
*pulls out a bike
"The lock sucks."
wtf?
@@strateshooter1402 he stole the bike XD, because the lock was shit
That what have been better.
that would have been hilarious
Ok.....
This lock may be better than nothing, but nothing doesn't cost so much! :) And a normal ziptie works just fine if we're talking about "better than nothing".
Awesome vid, as always!
I used to buy the cheapest gloves at the hardware store for work. They were called "Hand Jobs" and the tagline on their own packaging was, "Better than nothing." Ottolock should have done that.
The thing is, that wouldn't justify the price
"...who refuse to carry the weight of a REAL bike lock..." I mean, LPL is THE master of a veiled insult.
That's why he studied laws. Lol
He is a master of it for sure.
"The best thing I can say about this is that it's better than nothing"
A cheap chain lock doesn't have that much weight and would be better. Though ever numnberered cylinder lock they can easily be picked. If you are going to use combo lock use pad lock. First you gt more numbes so even by brute force as n trying every combo it would take less time. 10^4 = 10000(if i has numbers some use less.) combo pad locks at least 36^3 = 46,656 over 4.6 timss as many numbers and yu harder to pick the lock as cylinder will move a bit with when you have the right number satrting from back to front.
@@0011peace You typed all that as the point of this joke was flying way over your head...
It's probably sold with some catchy empty phrases like "Kevlar", "Multiple steel" "Ultra lightweight" "Eco friendly".
"Recyclable"
And gay as fvck...
helps fight climate change
Max Security
"Ultra lightweight" a cyclist kryptonite
I can only imagine the panic, when people who run these companies learn one of their products is in an episode of the LockPickingLawyer. Then, I would love to be a fly on the wall, seeing them watch that episode. This one has to have been particularly painful and humiliating. Well deserved!
I have a feeling this particular company was pretty aware of what they were doing.
Good. They deserve to go out of business for foisting a shoddy product onto the public.
Note to self:
Buy a cable cutter to get a major discount on high end bikes.
Legitimately a source of income for a lot of people with drug problems, the cops in most countries don’t do shit about bike theft. Here’s a crime number, contact your insurer, yada yada, bye..
Lol
@@skeptjk I can confirm this happens in Australia, because this happened to me last year 😕
Hmmmmmmm, ... 🤔
Perhaps I need a career change !
It's not even a cable cutter. It's a pair of sheet metal snips
This is genuinely disgusting, especially for that price. Marketing strikes again.
Kevlar is used to stop bullets, that must mean it's super strong against everything right?
@@Gammera2000 Yes. I have an old Motorola that has foiled COUNTLESS bullet-laden attempts on my life.
STONKS
@@Gammera2000 Kevlar is good for impact force, not cutting
@@atlasthechamp82 that's what he said
2:08 The silence of disappointment when he breaks the lock with little to no resistance and slowly just puts it back on the table, brilliant!
After that he did sound like the lock insulted his mother
When I worked in a bike shop, we would jimmy these locks whenever we were bored. The mechanism is identical to a zip tie, and it can be jimmied by just slipping a thin piece of metal (razor blade, strip of Aluminium can, thin flathead screwdriver) between the strap and the mechanism.
Never really got the "short stop" logic. Idc how long I'm stopping, I still want to possess my bike at the end of the stop.
It's more like how these top of the line road cyclists care about weight down to the gram. Waste of weight if you ask me
A cycling group using it at their coffee stop just makes me frantic. Like, it would take a passionate bike thief very little effort to realize "Oh hey the cycling club stops at Starbucks every sunday at 10" and just roll up with a truck and a pair of snips and snatch 2 or 3 up easy.
@@Cabbage-dk6nu The best bike security would to simply have one member watch the bikes at all time, and that's free. An alert human presence alone will discourage most thefts.
@@untitledESCAPEROOMproject that's what most clubs do but that member of the group gets less willing in December.
The logic is if you have a lock that takes 3 hours to cut through, and you leave it out for 8 hours while you go to work, and the bike costs 10000 then that's 3000 per hour salary for thieves. If you do a quick stop and can just run out quickly then it's not gonna be worth it.
The secret purpose of the high price is to discourage people from getting curious and trying to cut it.
Truth.
"Ottolock, we're better than nothing."
...but give us $55 anyway.
Ottolock is betting most people are not carrying cutting shears!
This man can pick,cut,or simply beat any kind of lock out there. He's great.
It seems this was made for people with more money than brains. Kevlar has some great properties but I fail to see how it makes this lock any better than a few strands of cable that would use the same space and provide some resistance to the tin snips. A sucker and his money are easily parted.
Well said 👀
If oblivious hype sells well enough, why bother investing in design effort that extends beyond the packaging and buzzwords.
Just wait for the premium version to come out with carbon fiber.
@Ed JackWhat a waste of American workers time and hard earned dollars. The price doesn't make it bad, its the value you get for that price and I doubt that you could chalk that up only to labour costs.
"It seems"??!? "OK".
@@handendaer You don't like my sentence structure?
I'd consider this product a form of theft
D locks are the way to go
Almost as bad as taxation.
if there were real-life standards, made by the government, most locks would fail. I do not understand why bike shops are selling shity locks anyway. Fraud to the customer.
@@IngoPagels Have you ever picked open someones door in front of them? They act like you are a bad guy even though you did it for them. It blows their sense of security and belief in locks out of the water. It upsets them to no end, so they attach the messenger. Most people's home security is a joke as are most bike locks. Or you get the other extreme. A million dollar lock on a cheap wood and glass door with open windows on the second story with a nice tree there to climb.
I dont share your comment; at least not 100%. "Educating" a person can have positive feedback. Most people are ignorant and unawarefull. Maybe they change there point and behavior, when something negative happens but not giving attention, this channel is educational and the guy recording it gives it a lot of attention, is negative cause no one is learning any lesson at all.
"Nothing's better than an Ottolock!"
It goes both ways so now the company is not liable for the statement.
Good one lulz.
Well, it does prevent grab n' run. I use something similar to secure my helmet to the bike (Z Lok hiplok.com/product/zlok1/). It literally can be opened by 2 needles (one bent paperclip). But it prevents people from just taking the helmet and insurance wise that is actually enough.
I think even this flimsy lock can make all the difference in an insurance claim. Obviously, it might vary depending on the country, but at least here it would make the difference between getting the money (I would actually be quite happy with getting my bike stolen, it is 15 years old and I would get what I paid 15 years ago) and getting nothing.
@@etherealicer if you see it that way then the ottolock is a good investment depending on the situtation
@@shadowlord0162 Exactly, just be aware of what you buy and why.
@@shadowlord0162 Btw, this is what I use (you can easily spot how simple it would be to pick and possibly to cut)
bikerumor.com/2017/03/14/hiplok-z-lok-adds-light-coffee-stop-security-reusable-steel-reinforced-zip-ties/
But for my use, it is ideal. It is cheap and light.
@@etherealicer they only prevent retarded grab n runs from small children or young teens. a thief with half a brain will steal it in seconds -somone who use to be in the criminal world
That seemed so easy that you should have used the remaining pieces to see what else would cut it. It would be nice to see if household scissors could cut it.
One of the Amazon reviews said he couldn't get it to open, so he cut it and called the manufacturer and was told, "it wasn’t really supposed to be successful against a real device that thieves would have"
What a joke
Hmmmm. Odd ive had fb interactions with the company staunchly defending their product.
It's called a "product-shaped object". Conspicuous design effort goes into producing something with tailored appearances and thereby implied functionality. Providing said functionality often seems to not be a design goal. It exists to produce a favorable emotional response in exchange for money.
@@PSUQDPICHQIEIWC ive talked to owners of ottolocks and they seem pretty happy with them.
The real problem I have is the price point. It has all the cut resistance of a $5 cable. For ten times as much.
@Ed Jack bill did a video too. Worse than this one. Lpl was really nice to them.
They commented on bills video and said they couldnt imagine why his LOCKS performed so poorly and offered to send him a new one to test.
Never saw another video from bill.
However ottolock themselves told me on fb that they had sent bill another sample and heard nothing back.
A couple things could have happened. One bill did do a followup and I missed it.
Two, Bill got the sample and it was a case of more shit from the same pile and he figured that if thats the best they had then why bother he'd already shown them to be shit locks why waste more time.
Or ottolock lied outright or their social media person was misinformed when they spoke to me.
I offered to test a sample and privately share the results with them. The never responded to that offer. Some random person started calling me names and crap tho. Odd.
Lastly, and this is really unlikely, Bill got the sample and it totally whooped his ass.
Like it ate his lock picks and spit out springs.
And he was ashamed. Emasculated. Mortified.
And he deleted the video.
Like i said given the fact that bill regularly posts defeat videos, i think this is unlikely to be the case.
Then they shouldn't be selling it for $85 😂 clowns
I've seen clamshell packaging that's harder to cut!
Most times they cut you back opening them too
splo1nger yeah at least they can fight back
I use my tin snips more on those stupid clamshells than I do on tin.
Being a former sheet metal guy, Wiss snips for the price are actually a quality tool.
That's a contradicting statement.
Not really - it's a value-for-money quality tool, properly maintained, it could last a decade...
...I mean, LPL bought a pair of Wiss snips, when he could afford any tin snips he wants, so I'd take that as an endorsement :)
@@tcpratt1660 Not gonna disagree. I prefer MidWest myself.
Back in the seventies the Craftsman brand snips were awesome. As a Carpenter , using them every day on steel stud framing, they would last about six months until the spring broke. At that point you just returned them to Sears and got a replacement for free! Sears must have figured out they were losing money on these and rebranded them “Companion” instead of Craftsman and that was the end of that.
The silence as he breaks into any lock he sees in seconds followed by a "Alright Folks" gets me every time.
2:00 picks up snips
2:08 cuts through lock
Watch 60 bucks VANISH in 8 seconds.
And an additional 25 if you want it mounted on the frame! LOL!
Or even worse if this was actually securing a bike, it could be hundreds of dollars.
@@Zebo12345678 thousands of dollars. My mountain bike was $2500 and the road bike was $5000
What’s sad is that he barely had to use any pressure whatsoever so you could probably even use a pair of normal scissors
@@Zebo12345678 hundreds? Some bikes cost over $10k
who would win??
a $55 bicycle lock that's meant to prevent theft of expensive bikes with a simple mechanism
or
one snappy boi
the answer is obviously or
fuckin bronies REEEEEEEEEEE
@@shimozukachi5887 stay triggered.
@@shimozukachi5887 nothing wrong with being a fan of a show, especially about one that is about kindness and understanding.
How can anybody write boy like that and not jump off a bridge?
I could just imagine LPL going up to the Cyclists, bobby pin in hand and being like "Hello this is the locking picking lawyer, and today I am showing you why your bike locks are useless"
He can't give away his secret identity though. Or maybe all they would see is a pair of a floating hands and a disembodied voice lol.
@@rushthezeppelin Oddly enough he went to a shooting range with multiple TH-camrs, so some have seen him.
Comment for the algorithm to ensure experiments like these remain profitable
I think I'm going to sell rope with a rubber coating and a Master lock for 80 bucks and get rich!
Do you need a backer?
Too late ! Take a look at tex-lock
Just make the rope too thick for normal scissors etc. and it'll already beat the Ottolock. :P
Thanks! Every suggestion goes straight to my Research and Development team :)
Do I just post my credit card details in this comment thread?
Jesus! You need a warning on your videos. I almost choked on my drink laughing.
Yeah, i almost choked too, but i was eating Dicks.
Hes a pole sm00k3r^
Christ, don't look at the other videos that are just as short. You just might die!
But, please do watch them for educational value.
Dergvus I was on the toilet and I laughed so hard I fell off it. It’s a good job I had finished 30minutes before else I would have sprayed Waste all over the wall.
That sounds like hysteria.
Its better than nothing, yeah i'd rather keep my 50$ and buy a whole bunch of nothing
Rather secure something with $50 worth of zip ties
gabe martinez probably stronger
@@gabemartinez2558 $50 buys a lot of zip ties, and it would take a long time to cut all of them! (of course it would also take a long time to apply all of them, so as with any security solution, there are tradeoffs)
Its obviously scam but at least people without special tools can't just take it with them.
They are selling this shit for 50$+ because they declare you can't cut them. Then if you say it is better than nothing just buy a cheaper one at 10$ and it will work as good as this one.
Major security improvement over an unlocked bike: potential thieves now need $10 equipment rather than $0 equipment. Very nice.
I can't thank you enough for this review. I was seriously considering this lock thinking for the price and the lightweight option it has to be good. Just looking for something to secure the bikes for short times but this is not the answer. Thank you for saving my money to put towards something better!
How the heck much does a real lock weigh?
2:10 the disappointment in his voice after spending so much money on this lock and it lasted only 2 seconds.
Yup. Ottolock ought to put a similar latch on their lock to slow down gullible thieves.
it is better for alock to fail in lockpickinglawyer's garage, than in real life. latter case is damaging, former case is amusing.
So the company says it is for short stops but they don't tell you that you need to stop for only like 1.5 seconds for this lock to be useful :D
Or at least be in watching distance
@@QuintarFarenor Or without dismounting from the bike XD
thats to long still
@@QuintarFarenor so you gonna run after someone on a bike?
That'll work out well, I'm sure.
Made for Short stops and long walks
I remember these. I never thought they were a good idea. I chuckled just as hard when I first saw them at I did when you cut through it in one try. I bet my pocket knife would work LOL
I've honestly had a harder time cutting zip ties
I have a harder time clipping my toe nails.
@@bertpeijmen6960 I have a harder time clipping coupons.
I had a harder time cutting hair on my chin
I've had a harder time breating.
I don't even want a bike, but now, I feel compelled to take one on principle.
I Love the "One Punch Man" vibe LockPickingLawyer videos have
:)
Those snips are basically a master key for all locks of that type.
why the hell would you make a lock out of kevlar? kevlar is just tightly intertwined strings
Because it sounds cool and its cheap
Pariarimid fibres, strong if woven together tightly and stressed by a blunt instrument.... shears will always cut it though 😂 clowns
Maybe their attack test was firing 9mm's at the band?
A lot of people have no clue what kevlar actually is, they only it's use in bullet resistant(proof in their cases) vests.
Kevlar in this application is however utterly worthless and retarded. But it lets you slap a 100$ price tag on it and sell a fantasy to fuckwits. XD
This is what happens when you hire engineers that got their degree on the internet.
Between this and nothing I would save my money and just secure my bike with a $20 bill in the hopes that a thief would be distracted and forget my bike altogether
that is even worser considering even people who don't normally steal would almost always go and pick up a dropped bank note more people would steal a bank note than would steal a bike so by the time a thief is there there is no cash left to tempt them and most likely the thief would take both anyway
@@zahidshabir4038 whoooosh
Judging by the packaging you can lock your teepee with it too.
That is a tent or campsite symbol.
If you are referring to toilet paper, this is absolutely relevant now.
In fact, it's used to hold the poles together.
Iridium like a zip tie would?
@@Hoot *native american
LPL, saying that took 2 seconds was incredibly generous of you
_"........................... Okay, folks,"_
Textbook example of accidental comedy. Couldn't stop laughing.
I could audibly hear the disappointment when he cut it
“Security is only as strong as its weakest link”
- Lock Picking Lawyer
But this lock doesn't even have any strong links xD
And Ottolock, it has a way, with B-O-L-O-G-N-A!
Wow....as a cervice to the consumer this is about as good as it gets.
Well that's just embarrassing
totally
I doubt OTTO cares. They're just another fleeting cash-grab startup looking to make easy money on a simple product that cost them almost nothing (cheap parts and materials with very little invested in research and development). Unfortunately the world is full of suckers who buy this crap just because it comes in cute hipster colors like matte green and matte orange. Those suckers also think that it must be a good lock if it's as ridiculously overpriced as it is. Sad.
I sincerely apologize on the behalf of all those who asked you to waste 55 bucks for this video :-(
He'll make it back in ad revenue in a couple of days.
Well, maybe Ottolocks could ask him to consult on their redesign ;)
T3rminat0r Only problem is that the best consulting advice to them would likely be “just stay out of the bike lock industry, you’re hopeless”. He may not get much return business!
Don't worry he now has $30k worth of road bikes in his garage, minus the $10 for the snips
This video would've made about $700 by now.
Man, I can't even crack a joke. This is just plain sad and hilarious at the same time. Lol
In photography there is a mindset that the camera you have is better than the one at home. If your camera or lock is too heavy or so unwieldy that you don't bring it, or even worse, bring it and don't use it then a tool like this really is the best option for you.
If someone plans to steal a bike then this won't stop them, but if it's just a terrible person who is walking or driving down the road and decides to steal the bike because it's convenient, this will likely stop them.
ottolock, trying to rip people off: you can't cut it!
lockpickinglawyer: *snip*
I was ready to buy one. Thanks for the heads up !
Have you seen the Kickstarter page for OTTOLOCK? It has pictures of *bolt cutters* trying to cut the lock and says "...but surprisingly stronger than meets the eye!". It also says "OTTOLOCK is extremely cut-resistant because of an engineered..."
Really?
It may be true, bolt cutters are more on pressure than sharpness
I'm so over Kickstarter... all these millennials and their "groundbreaking" product ideas which almost invariably will be hideously expensive, and either never be delivered, or a colossal flop like these.
They gap'd the blades of the snips on their own demonstration. Blades don't close on each other, this thing will survive. If it's a functional pair of snips tho...
@@timfischer boomer
TheRealSuper you are? Cool.
Wiss are one of the best quality snips. A great company!
You should've tried with some regular scissors. Haha. That's terrible.
Anthony Petrillo maybe two sharp pieces of wood
Get some of those kid safe scissors and go at it
yep, i would think a decent pair of shears would work.
Maybe it's even worse than nothing because it provides a false sense of security
Stunning that this passed any form of quality department at ottolock.
When your whole business model is based on bs, QA testing is essentially looking for the Ottolock of scissors
what quality department
When you said 'better than nothing', I immediately thought of the bikes owner coming back to find 'nothing'
I like how his “compliment” is “it’s better than nothing”
Even though it ruined the surprise, I'm glad you put the snips in the thumbnail. Too many people go for clickbait.
The title says cut in 2 seconds...what am I supposed to do with all this extra time? That wasn't even a second and a half.
the rest of the time you use to ride of into the sunset
You could pick a Master Lock #3 twice...
Looks like you used that time to write a comment about it.
"It's better than nothing! WE BEAT MASTERLOCK!"
The LockPickingLawyer is one of the most dangerous good men out there :)
Where did you say these people leave their bikes? Asking for a friend. That really is an embarrassing tether.
This is the only guy outside of thieves that will carefully inspect the lock on your bike.
Actually he and Bosnian Bill could look at your bike from 20 feet away and, 90% of the time, instantly KNOW exactly what lock you have, and what they would need to to to pick/bypass/snip/humiliate it.
I just watched the company's add and I was like really a lock that light and can snip it now looking at ur reviews omg they should be held accountable for any loss of property under their locks