......basically coppied the chassis design of header carts for the 30' + small grains platforms. ....and added a non differential drive. Neat anyway.....
Articulated heavy duty vehicles already use this similar concept but a mechanical type like this is still very useful on light duty cargo trollies. Good job!
This reminds me of when I worked at UPS, in the the distribution warehouse. They had trolley-trains like this that carried around bulky items. They would manuver around stairs and other obstacles without hitting anything. I kind of knew how they worked, but this provides a great visual. Thanks!
We had pump forks or something they were awesome jack them up stand on it and scoot. Once you're going you can skate the F things. Leaning from one fork to the other you start flying then realise how heavy they are with no brakes lol. Night shift though so...
Даааавным давно существуют п.п с задней подруливающей осью. Вещь хорошая. Углы почти не режет. Но к этой теме нужно очень сильно привыкнуть. У меня кореш прицеп такой купил, через неделю примерно сцепку с грузом положил.
I've seen shows where Australia Truck Trains do something like this. The rear trailers follow the front trailer tracks. I really don't know if it's like this example but I'd love to know.
I work on a farm and the trailers we use to haul combine heads are designed exactly like this (minus the diff). Works really well and helps us get through tight spaces very easily
Прости человек за критику. Твоя тележка похожа на применение в сельском хозяйстве. И данная конструкция усложняет её эксплуатацию, а не облегчает. Попробуй сделай "трактор" поставь тележку в колею и порули ей. К сожалению быстро придёт понимание, что весь твой поворотный механизм скорее сломается, чем колея станет шире. Ну и синхронизация вращения колеса под трактор ещё та задачка. Колесо будет постоянно срывать грунт. Из хорошего скажу, что подобная тележка применима где-то на твёрдых поверхностях, где необходима высокая манёвренность.
Thank you for the detailed explanation and synopsis. Here in America your thanks would be in the form of, TOO LONG DID NOT READ. Man for man the flimsy American male being of God knows what ethnic origin these days so let's just say it's still a white man's country and therefore the typical American flimsy white man has no chance against the Russian. The rest of the non-whites are going to be running for their life to the southern border and the Hindus will be standing there chit chatting with their fellow countrymen wondering when somebody is going to massage their feet. So when are you Russians going to get over here and take what is yours but not from me I'm not one of those white men. I'll be that guy standing there mining his own business with a shirt that has a six pointed star with a circle around it and a swastika superimposed over it and underneath it will say 6 million lies. I'm the good guy okay? Or don't tell me you all are in love with those hook nosed six-pointed star genetic criminal clan members? Or do you prefer the kurds or chechnyans or Gypsies instead..... Hey while you're at it you might as well throw in the serbians as well they're fucking cocksuckers.
Нужно придумать тоже самое но не с поворотом оси а с поворотом колёс, а если при этом можно будет отключать и блокировать от поворота заднюю ось цены этому проекту не будет
Something else that nobody has mentioned in comments is that this design 4 wheel steering is 1:1 ratio front and rear axles with any steering input. Take out that link and control front and rear steering independently in order to be effective. Wheelbase plays a big part in this design as well. There is a whole lot wrong with this model in the vid.
This is a comment few will understand and appreciate but I do so 👍🏼 I think the goal is to have a pto powered trailer connected to a tractor to drive the trailer as well. but it’s missing so many variables and parts that this design is not feasible but every great invention starts with a great idea so I would say under the right circumstances this would be a great idea Ps. Still needs a lot of work tho
@natedawg9806 you are correct. Nobody has thought of the pto speed relative to the ground speed either. Even if you could get the pto speed and wheel speed to match up, what happens when you slow down or come to a stop? The wheels will just keep digging in.
Tinha que ser um brasileiro pra comentar uma idiotice 😅 Imagina isso aí na prática cara... Imagina ....pensa um pouco.... Raciocina que você vai entender por conta própria que não dá certo
@@andrececoni você deve ser um grande conhecedor de mecânica pra falar uma imbecilidade dessa,se não sabe se informa antes de falar,na década 40 e 50 já tinha esse conceito em caminhões e hoje não é novidade,porém é preciso se informar e é isso que você não fez...
@@user-en6bq3ur1d да ложили они на наши патенты. Как мы теперь кладём на их детали. Обратный инжиниринг не спит, днём и ночью делаем 3д модели. И на станок/отливку/печать. Изготовление.
Are you kidding?! it has WELDEED diff in front axel, right front wheel slides while traveling a longer distance, you can't see on, it because it's cut in purpose in the video. the back axel I admit looks interesting. on this scale all the turning angles are negligible, on a big scale it would wear tires off.
@@user-iy3ys1um1e Верно не нужны, но нужен разрезной мост. у него заваренный дифф и колесо правое переднее проскальзывает, изза того что проделывает больший путь по большему радиусу.
Рама вращается при повороте. Нагрузка на соединении от трения и веса сверху. Вот если бы сами колеса поворачиваливась, как на погрузчиках + обычная передне управляющие, получилось бы?
Good job Colton, good catch. The other day i saw what could be called an anticipator, mechanical in design, it was a gyroscope mounted on a 20 ton train. This was a monorail, and the inventor created this anticipator to keep the train on the tracks going around corners. This was in the early days of train travel mid 1800s. See everything doesn't need to be controled by computer chips. @coltonjaynes1605
So, if you're pulling this with a tractor or vehicle with PTO, you hook up your PTO drive and the front trailer wheels have drive power to assist pulling the load. The rear wheels are just connected to pivot and steer around what the front wheels have already cleared, basically following the same path. Could also be done with a piggyback motor mounted on the trailer tongue and connected to the geared shaft, then sync your engine throttles.
Very impressive invention, great for manoeuvring bends , for articulated vehicles load balancing need be factored in to prevent tilt of vehicle due to high CG
This solved the long standing problem of the rear and front wheels tracking together. There was a time when it was held this invitation comes out once 400 years. This requires highest award after carefully studying it.
Really a great idea bro but can't be so practical to be used for a tractor trolley because they should be designed to hold and withstand tonnes or load and these rotatory axels in front as well as in the back would reduce the weight holding capacity or would increase the maintenance work... But a great solution for the other light weight vehicles like cars & jeeps
Mining carts, airports carts, and many other trailers use pivoting solid axles like this on many real world designs. It reduces stability a bit as the wheel base narrows thru the turn, but works just fine for very heavy loads so long as it is designed for it.
The old logging trucks used in the pacific northwest of America and Canada, had a cable that was connected to the back of the truck and the axles of the trailer that was crossed. So when the truck would turn one way, the trailer would turn the other way. For going around sharp corners on steep mountain grades
Класс, но нужно не только рассчитать длину тяг и их шарнирное соединение, но и передаточное число на кардан и редуктор прицепа чтобы не рвало редуктор, ражатку
Gostei muito do seu orojeto parabéns tem de adpitar um limitador para virar menos os conjuntos fe rodas.Fiquei curioso se tem um olhal para ser rebocado, porque o eixo com o furo é as engrenagens?
this wont work when one throws in the third axle of the vehicle PULLING it. suddenly it wants to turn in a tighter arc than what its being pulled to follow. thats why, when you see articulated trailers, they arent mechanically linked. they have to be free to follow the curve that they are being pulled through.
Just like the baggage carts at the airport. That's how they can pull a long string of baggage carts through narrow passages with sharp turns. But that definitely needs a differential in that drive axle.
Brother jithon Tak mainu lagda es vich pishe Wale tyran di ghasaayi bohat zyada hon Vali aa eh odo Howe ga jdo troli turn kr rahi aa te tractor khich mare ga agge wall te pisho tyre mude hoye honge
Not a good idea for trailers that are going to be going more than 30 miles an hour. For a backyard trailer this is good idea. Terrible idea for highway speeds, it's called stability.
Now this is a man that knows how to spend a spare moment
......basically coppied the chassis design of header carts for the 30' + small grains platforms. ....and added a non differential drive. Neat anyway.....
😊❤❤
😂😂😂
Articulated heavy duty vehicles already use this similar concept but a mechanical type like this is still very useful on light duty cargo trollies. Good job!
Jenial ideia .
Tem como por um bloqueio na articulação traseira ,
Quando necessário
Maravilha pra carretinha reboque
@@carlitopereiradasilva9693❤q
Respectfull and correct👌 but i like the handwork that is see. 🤙
Now try backing up with that style trailer.
Tires must be able to spin at different speeds for optimal turn radius.
That right spot on ..
The back ones have their own axel. The front ones would have a differential
Right
that right,differential gear
Wauw!😮
*Differential has left the chat*
All it needs is a limited slip differential
*sharp corner has entered the chat*
It's a scale model and proof of concept, I imagine a full-scale version would have a differential and probably some other additions
which differential? there is none 🤔
@@SirWallace2 that's that point lmao 😂 there is none
This reminds me of when I worked at UPS, in the the distribution warehouse. They had trolley-trains like this that carried around bulky items. They would manuver around stairs and other obstacles without hitting anything. I kind of knew how they worked, but this provides a great visual.
Thanks!
We had pump forks or something they were awesome jack them up stand on it and scoot. Once you're going you can skate the F things. Leaning from one fork to the other you start flying then realise how heavy they are with no brakes lol.
Night shift though so...
Yep, and only the grumpiest employees were able to operate them!😂
Only this visualization design got some major.. issues (I'd call them mistakes) 😂
Умно придумано,думаю для тягачей с полуприцепом это само то что нужно. Респект 100%! ! !
Все давно уже придумано, К-700 или Т-150 с ломающейся рамой. Здесь вообще ничего не нового!
С грузом может кульнуться во внутреннюю сторону при сильном вывороте, темболее при наклоне.
Даааавным давно существуют п.п с задней подруливающей осью. Вещь хорошая. Углы почти не режет. Но к этой теме нужно очень сильно привыкнуть. У меня кореш прицеп такой купил, через неделю примерно сцепку с грузом положил.
I've seen shows where Australia Truck Trains do something like this. The rear trailers follow the front trailer tracks. I really don't know if it's like this example but I'd love to know.
что тут придумывать - это называется крабовый ход, на всех телескопических погрузчиках давным-давно
I work on a farm and the trailers we use to haul combine heads are designed exactly like this (minus the diff). Works really well and helps us get through tight spaces very easily
Прости человек за критику. Твоя тележка похожа на применение в сельском хозяйстве. И данная конструкция усложняет её эксплуатацию, а не облегчает. Попробуй сделай "трактор" поставь тележку в колею и порули ей. К сожалению быстро придёт понимание, что весь твой поворотный механизм скорее сломается, чем колея станет шире. Ну и синхронизация вращения колеса под трактор ещё та задачка. Колесо будет постоянно срывать грунт. Из хорошего скажу, что подобная тележка применима где-то на твёрдых поверхностях, где необходима высокая манёвренность.
Эта тележка будет идти ровно по колее за трактором. Что несомненно удобно будет.
Согласен, лучше шарнирная сочлененка как Кировец
@@user-lx7rc2nm5eпросто очертите радиус поворота внутреннего колеса и наружного и вы увидите разницу диаметров
@@user-lx7rc2nm5e Кировец это не тележка
Thank you for the detailed explanation and synopsis.
Here in America your thanks would be in the form of, TOO LONG DID NOT READ.
Man for man the flimsy American male being of God knows what ethnic origin these days so let's just say it's still a white man's country and therefore the typical American flimsy white man has no chance against the Russian.
The rest of the non-whites are going to be running for their life to the southern border and the Hindus will be standing there chit chatting with their fellow countrymen wondering when somebody is going to massage their feet.
So when are you Russians going to get over here and take what is yours but not from me I'm not one of those white men.
I'll be that guy standing there mining his own business with a shirt that has a six pointed star with a circle around it and a swastika superimposed over it and underneath it will say 6 million lies.
I'm the good guy okay?
Or don't tell me you all are in love with those hook nosed six-pointed star genetic criminal clan members?
Or do you prefer the kurds or chechnyans or Gypsies instead..... Hey while you're at it you might as well throw in the serbians as well they're fucking cocksuckers.
Нужно придумать тоже самое но не с поворотом оси а с поворотом колёс, а если при этом можно будет отключать и блокировать от поворота заднюю ось цены этому проекту не будет
Уже придумал. ))))))
в Ютубе всё есть
Марк 2 в помощ
Блин я хотел написат . Придумали ))))
Это только на малых скоростях, иначе опасно, для скоростных есть незначительное подруливание задней оси, и то - есть предел
хорошая идея, если можно отключить функцию в високих скоростьях
Для тихоходов до 60-80 км/ч думаю и так норм будет
Получается конструктора бесталковые.
@@user-iq2jl6gq3p почему?
@@user-il2На большой скорости, скорее всего авто будет ,,рыскать' в лево-в право!
kalau mobilnya oleng sedikit maka akan terpelanting dan roboh😮
Imagine the death wobble with that set up in a dodge lol
Все надо пробовать в реальных размерах и условиях.
Я за идеЮ.
А то всЕ прям знатоки знатоки...
Минимализм !!!
Тут главное из чего сделать ...🎉
Good engineering model, from Jawaharlal Bharat INDIA 🙏
ok
It's a gandoo engineering
👍👍👍👍
😂
😢
Интересная идея! Сыновьям с таким отцом точно не будет скучно !!!
Something else that nobody has mentioned in comments is that this design 4 wheel steering is 1:1 ratio front and rear axles with any steering input. Take out that link and control front and rear steering independently in order to be effective. Wheelbase plays a big part in this design as well. There is a whole lot wrong with this model in the vid.
This is a comment few will understand and appreciate but I do so 👍🏼 I think the goal is to have a pto powered trailer connected to a tractor to drive the trailer as well. but it’s missing so many variables and parts that this design is not feasible but every great invention starts with a great idea so I would say under the right circumstances this would be a great idea Ps. Still needs a lot of work tho
@natedawg9806 you are correct. Nobody has thought of the pto speed relative to the ground speed either. Even if you could get the pto speed and wheel speed to match up, what happens when you slow down or come to a stop? The wheels will just keep digging in.
😂😂😂 It’s a medieval technology mate, you discovered America again 😂🎉
Awesome, this is a great idea it'll be lot easier to take turns in narrow areas.
Genial sua ideia, apenas aperfeiçoar porque virar o eixo totalmente pode causar acidente, porém só as rodas não..parabéns pela criação..🇧🇷🇧🇷
20 century. Japan. Mark 2 toyota. 21 century. Germany. MB w223...
@@OdessaFreakûhjû7q! b 0q799⁰
Tinha que ser um brasileiro pra comentar uma idiotice 😅
Imagina isso aí na prática cara... Imagina ....pensa um pouco.... Raciocina que você vai entender por conta própria que não dá certo
@@andrececoni você deve ser um grande conhecedor de mecânica pra falar uma imbecilidade dessa,se não sabe se informa antes de falar,na década 40 e 50 já tinha esse conceito em caminhões e hoje não é novidade,porém é preciso se informar e é isso que você não fez...
@@andrececoni da um credito, o ensino no brasil nao e dos melhores
Это изобретено давным давно в СССР 😂
У нас всегда так-сами изобретаем а какой-то иносраный дядя взял и запатентовал,а потом докажи что это твоя идея😢
@@user-en6bq3ur1d да ложили они на наши патенты. Как мы теперь кладём на их детали. Обратный инжиниринг не спит, днём и ночью делаем 3д модели. И на станок/отливку/печать. Изготовление.
Я знаю
В юном технике было.
Да в СССР такие случаи очень много были...бюрократия "хорошо" работала
..😢
Are you kidding?! it has WELDEED diff in front axel, right front wheel slides while traveling a longer distance, you can't see on, it because it's cut in purpose in the video.
the back axel I admit looks interesting. on this scale all the turning angles are negligible, on a big scale it would wear tires off.
That's a pretty cool little piece of engineering
This technology is old
@@Zack-nl6bwbut gold
bringin it back to the 1900s lol
Gracias excellentes talleres, saludos desde Montelargo Pereira Colombia, 💪🤍🙏
🎉 congratulations this is great for trailers
Tengo un remolque que funciona así pero lo hace con cable de acero tira de un lado o del otro depende el giro y es del año 1978 y va muy bien
Tomale foto para que lo conoscamos ....😅
Acaba com o problema de caminhão e carreta, de fazer curva muito curta.
Parabéns pela ideia!
Nesse caso, não seria uma boa ideia.
Pelo simples fato do veículo ser longo, não tem como compensar a envergadura.
technology like the stone ages 😂😂😂 well done next reinventing the wheel??
Очумительно! Всё гениальное -- просто!
У левых и правых колёс должны быть разные углы поворота (в зависимости от направления поворота руляд, это обеспечивается рулевой трапецией!
При повороте оси (а не колёс по отдельности), что и показано на видео, рулевая трапеция не нужна.
@@user-iy3ys1um1e Верно не нужны, но нужен разрезной мост. у него заваренный дифф и колесо правое переднее проскальзывает, изза того что проделывает больший путь по большему радиусу.
I've seen similar builds on full scale cars, but this is a different level of it's own. Sweet!
Рама вращается при повороте. Нагрузка на соединении от трения и веса сверху.
Вот если бы сами колеса поворачиваливась, как на погрузчиках + обычная передне управляющие, получилось бы?
Я такие машинки в 1 классе собирал из будильников,но они еще и заводные были
Para quem não ententendeu, é para ser usado em trator, tem o eixo de tração ali para engatar no trator .
Now this is a man that knows how to spend a sapear moment
Молоток то у деда отгрыз!!! 🤣🤣🤣
The rear tire on the outer side dragging. Find a solution for that and the design will be near perfect.
Was going to ask about the solid front axle. In the real thing, would that have a diff?
The rear tire wouldn't be dragging, if you notice, the rear axles are individual, allowing for no drag whatsoever.
Because this model does not have a differential. A real one would have thus solving the problem
Good job Colton, good catch. The other day i saw what could be called an anticipator, mechanical in design, it was a gyroscope mounted on a 20 ton train. This was a monorail, and the inventor created this anticipator to keep the train on the tracks going around corners. This was in the early days of train travel mid 1800s. See everything doesn't need to be controled by computer chips. @coltonjaynes1605
Another pivot
But i think its very risky when the vehicle is going at high speed. A little curve and tilt down the whole trailer
Для тракторов и всякого подобного самое то
Ты не знаешь это наверняка, ты не проверял это. Верно?)
@@user-wd1rs4hw3dне сложно дагадаться
Excelente idea te felicito 😮
Such an ingenious, simple solution.❤👍👍👍👍
So, if you're pulling this with a tractor or vehicle with PTO, you hook up your PTO drive and the front trailer wheels have drive power to assist pulling the load. The rear wheels are just connected to pivot and steer around what the front wheels have already cleared, basically following the same path. Could also be done with a piggyback motor mounted on the trailer tongue and connected to the geared shaft, then sync your engine throttles.
Роль двигателя здесь второстепенна, как и роль редуктора. Весь смысл в диагональной тяге.
You could add a second gear set at the rear and make it awd... Never get stuck incthe mud again hi hi
Awd at the tractor and awd on the pulled cargo..
if youve ever pulled a trailer you would see why this wont work as expected.
@@yanbelov5000 I'm sorry, I don't know how to translate your response. 👋😀
Definitely be a good idea for turn in tight areas I don't know how you doing reverse😊
Ótima ideia p carreta agrícola, usando a tomada de força do trator
Very impressive invention, great for manoeuvring bends , for articulated vehicles load balancing need be factored in to prevent tilt of vehicle due to high CG
المحور الموصول بين الدواليب الاماميه والخلفيه يجب عكسها لان الدواليب الخلفيه اتجاههاغير مناسب .
This solved the long standing problem of the rear and front wheels tracking together. There was a time when it was held this invitation comes out once 400 years. This requires highest award after carefully studying it.
Really a great idea bro but can't be so practical to be used for a tractor trolley because they should be designed to hold and withstand tonnes or load and these rotatory axels in front as well as in the back would reduce the weight holding capacity or would increase the maintenance work... But a great solution for the other light weight vehicles like cars & jeeps
I dont pull light shit with my truck
Mining carts, airports carts, and many other trailers use pivoting solid axles like this on many real world designs. It reduces stability a bit as the wheel base narrows thru the turn, but works just fine for very heavy loads so long as it is designed for it.
This will come in handy the next time I need to take my hammer to the jobsite and can't be bothered to carry it!
That's a pretty cool little piece of engineering, Good work
The old logging trucks used in the pacific northwest of America and Canada, had a cable that was connected to the back of the truck and the axles of the trailer that was crossed. So when the truck would turn one way, the trailer would turn the other way. For going around sharp corners on steep mountain grades
Значит всё новое-хорошо забытое старое. 🙂👍
Tires must be able to spin at different speeds for optimal turn radius
Вы правы, дифференциал просто необходим.
BRAVOOOO!!!O INVENȚIE DE CARTEA RECORDURILOR CU PRIVIRE LA CÎRMĂ ȘI PRIZĂ DE PUTERE LA TRACTOR BRAVO DIN RO .
Tidak ada yg bisa melawan sains👍
Bhai jhon deer tractor bhe banao please ❤❤❤
Класс, но нужно не только рассчитать длину тяг и их шарнирное соединение, но и передаточное число на кардан и редуктор прицепа чтобы не рвало редуктор, ражатку
Super bien ingeniero 👌 felicidades 👌
Might want a differential on that front axle lol. Turning would probably break something otherwise.
If you do not have driving shafts then you dont need differential
@@19HarDMaN97if it ever intends to turn then yes it does need a differential. And it has a PTO option to drive the wheels from the tractor.
Gostei muito do seu orojeto parabéns tem de adpitar um limitador para virar menos os conjuntos fe rodas.Fiquei curioso se tem um olhal para ser rebocado, porque o eixo com o furo é as engrenagens?
Para a tomada de força de tratores.
Effective... Great job 👍
I think Disney trams use a similar setup.
this wont work when one throws in the third axle of the vehicle PULLING it.
suddenly it wants to turn in a tighter arc than what its being pulled to follow.
thats why, when you see articulated trailers, they arent mechanically linked. they have to be free to follow the curve that they are being pulled through.
Just like the baggage carts at the airport.
That's how they can pull a long string of baggage carts through narrow passages with sharp turns.
But that definitely needs a differential in that drive axle.
У тебя есть талант!!!
На тракторной прицеп было бы идеально
bhai superb but ek problem hai . kya ise round turn kar sakte hai. yadi haa toh video banakar upload kro please.
video upload ho jaega
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Brother jithon Tak mainu lagda es vich pishe Wale tyran di ghasaayi bohat zyada hon Vali aa eh odo Howe ga jdo troli turn kr rahi aa te tractor khich mare ga agge wall te pisho tyre mude hoye honge
So simple and great idea :D
That's a pretty cool little piece of engineering👍👍👍
full vedio
NICE BRO
Perfect. Just missing the camber closure limiters, to prevent the front and rear tires on both sides from touching each other
Красавчик!!! Супер, мужик!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Tyer lai rubber kitho mildi a veer
Amazon thee bhai ji
Amazon thee bhai ji
Gear kitho mile veer
Angle grinder repair shop ton
ini namanya uji coba yg kecil dulu,kalo berhasil baru bakalan bikin yg besar yg pakai mesin....mantap semoga bermanfaat untuk semua orang
молоток ШИКАРНЕЕ ))вот это мастер)
Nice
Good model and working❤ love you bro
Задним ходом устанешь с таким прицепом парковаться😂
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independent wheel rotation is required. nice job.
I swear to God the only Sunday
You are a genius and creative
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This will be very useful in long truck trailers in making turns , they dont have to make wide turns or end up going over curbs
Not a good idea for trailers that are going to be going more than 30 miles an hour.
For a backyard trailer this is good idea. Terrible idea for highway speeds, it's called stability.
This project can be very helpful
Excellent engineering technology ❤
Superb, Superb, Superb, Zabardast 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is essentially how log truck trailers work so they can drive in and out of windy narrow mountain roads.
C est genial c est comme ca que vous avait fait les monster truk humm 😂 ❤
Круто, нужно ещё!!!
Now this is a feller who knows how to use a free minute
Это гениально!👍👍👍
Nice science technology ❤👍
Wow this is amazing, tesla cyber truck technology
Only problem, is when ur trying to go down the road straight, longer trailer=more fun😆
Bhai gear kaha se mile
Angle grinder repair shop....angle grinder de gear ah
C'est magnifique!
make video without music better ,thank you because your videos without ladies
Love your content
Wao nice work 💯🙂👍👌💪
Your skills are so good.
Amazing work 👏
It's amazing work 👍
Идея интересная и очень полезная !!!!
Таких задвижки сейчас ставят на спортивные машины. Чудесно придумано
Cool inventor 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍