Did Someone Corrupt the Torah 2,500 Years Ago? What did Jeremiah Mean by a ‘Lying Pen of Scribes’?
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- Caller asks Rabbi Tovia Singer an intriguing question: Was the Jeremiah a contemporary of the Ezra, and did he accuse scribes of maliciously employing a ‘lying pen’ to corrupt the Torah 2,500 years ago?
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Rabbi ,Im a Muslim and I respect you highly as a Jewish authority and I feel your sincerity when you speak.May Allah guide you.
The first time I read Yermeyahu I became so frustrated because it was hard to follow who was talking to whom and what was actually happening in each chapter so, I read it again, and again and again and again and prayed for a lot of guidance and read it carefully again and again. Now years later I continue to read it and still marvel at how much trust Yermeyahu had to have in the Father to get through each and every day. It's funny that you (Rabbi Singer) say to toss the TV because after reading Yermeyahu, I not only tossed the TV but, I also tossed all the objects I've collected over the years in my life travels. Most everything that I had collected and dusted for years went into the trash along with the Christmas tree, Easter decorations, and ALL man-made tradition/ religion. It all went into the trash. I chose to live by every word from the Torah Prophets and Psalms and have never been so happy every single day. I love Yermeyahu and all the prophets dearly and pray that should troubles come and seem insurmountable that I too can always remember to trust in Yah. Thank you so much for this lesson. I had to smile as you said how much you would like to talk to Yermeyahu one day. Me too. Blessings to you and yours. ❣️
Thank you Rabbi! I love HASHEM! It is amazing hearing from a real descendant of Levi. Truly a Blessing.
Is Levi Abraham??
I wish to express my sincerest gratitude to Rabbi Tovia Singer. About 15 years ago, my conservative Jewish college roommate lent me a set of Rabbi Tovia Singer's cassette tapes. I found the tapes so incredibly interesting and addictive that I eventually became orthodox Jewish myself complete with Sabbath observance & daily Tefillin and tzitzit wearing. The funny thing is that I became even more "Jewish" & religiously observant than my "Jewish" roommate ever was, and I finally convinced my old roommate to start wearing Tefillin. Again, my sincerest gratitude goes out to Rabbi Tovia Singer.
It is clearly stated in the bible that God put a lying spirit in the mouth of the prophets and cause them to prophesy lies.
@@caniceedward1821 what? Your comment makes no sense to me. Please explain. Who is the lying prophet? Prophets aren’t supposed to lie.
Sometimes it takes an axe to chop down a Forrest. -2 times -2 = 4
Another thoughtful insight by Tovia Singer ... bringing us towards understanding
Man, I love this brother! May HASHEM bless you, protect you, and grant you an abundance of vigorous years to come. Amein. Shalom-Aleichem.
Salam alaykum. I love this guy. Learned a lot from him.
@Abraham Mani sorry but no thanks
Thank you rabbi , that was great , the cristian church has done so much damage to unravel it god had a man like you to clarify the whole matter, may hashem continue to bless you.
Yes Rabbi, is new to me, and is beautiful! Thank you again for your teachings.
@Abraham Mani Your MOTHER TONGUE? The L'shon Ha-kodesh...the word in Hebrew is "MOSHIACH"...and no one knows who Moshiach is as of yet...although patently the time is coming. Certainly, Yeshu did not bring to pass the necessaries to qualify as Ha Moshiach---in his lifetime. Christians are unwittingly involved in poly Theism and even paganism. Worship the ONE G-d!!
@Abraham Mani: You have yet to show us ONE VERSE where God EVER said the drivel you've spewed!!! Pretty pathetic that you can't come up with even ONE verse where God told us to believe in Christianity (God forbid!!!!)!!
@Abraham Mani: Show us all ONE VERSE from the Hebrew scriptures where God EVER said ONE word of the drivel you've spewed - just ONE!!! Nowhere did God EVER tell us that He requires HUMAN BLOOD as atonement for our sins - therefore, the 'Yeshua/Jesus dying on a cross' narrative just did NOT happen! God does NOT become His creations - EVER and nowhere do the Hebrew scriptures say that He sends his creations to ETERNAL HELLFIRE!!!
Thank you dear Rabbi for your candid and loving way to instruct us....yes, may we merit to meet men such as the holy Jeremiah...Baruch Hashem...you open my eyes to know these holy men of the Tenackh...grateful...
D.H.---The correct spelling for the Hebrew Bible is TANAKH...T=Torah...N= Neviim (Prophets) ...KH= Khetuvim (The Writings). You must be steeped in Torah and Mishnah and Kabbalah...do not bandy words, holy things and misspell them. Jews and good Christians like yourself are bound mystically...it is becoming CLEAR as the Gog/Magog war is FAST approaching...and we Jews must admit that Christian eschatology was right on the nose; As Yisrael begins to fight the Russian Bear, China...which looks imminent, America would be destroyed...this, I can scarcely say it, also seems to be shifting into high gear.
My fellow Jews---I am speaking of normative, traditional Judaism...We must be ready to say "Our Christian sister faith filled in some blanks so that we might rely on one another."
To my Christian friends; Take steps back from Paul...that is where the chasm between Jews and it's sect (at the time) who followed the Nazarene Yeshua began. Paul broke faith with the Jewish faith. Pray on that.
Truly, we are the generation who will witness wondrous things!! Baruch hu uv'aruch Shemoh!!
You bring Torah alive to me. Thank you.
@Abraham Mani no
@@DavidAmis2005 They expect us to turn our backs on The Torah given to us at Har Sinai...some 1500 years BEFORE the birth of Jesus!! And further back to the time when Avram became Avraham when Hashem HIMSELF gave Avraham
Avinu the Brit Milah--the First Jew, Baruch Hashem!!
The apostate Paul, who discarded circumcision and Kashrut (dietary laws) and more just to win over the gentiles.
There are no short cuts to being a Jew.
@@1060michaelg: Well said - THANK YOU!!!
Look many times your videos,but you always can learn something!Bless you ❤
Putting your trust in Hashem is the most important thing to do !! Todah for sharing tanakh and explaining Jeremiah !!
Eugenia Lesiuk in section 18 of Epiphanius’s Panarion it’s recorded that there was an ancient Jewish sect called the “Nasaraeans” who believed that the Torah had been corrupted and that the main corruption was the introduction of the phenomenon we call animal sacrifice. If you read Jeremiah chapter 7 again along with 8:8 it becomes very obvious that Jeremiah was a member of that sect.
MAY God bless you and give you His Mercy and the best of what you are asking for my cousin Rabbi Tovia Singer
Even me, an atheist, learns from the rabbi. I love that he doesn't mince words.
Hashem makes ur mouth golden rabbi may hashem extend your life. Live longer hashem loves you ❤
Excellently explained Rabbi
@Abraham Mani: The "New Testament" is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God, therefore we CANNOT and WILL NOT COMPLY with your pagan religion. God has NO son but Israel - see Isa. 52, 53 and 54. Learn from the rabbis, as commanded by God in Deut. 17:8-11.
I just want to move away from Christian's after listening to you Rabbi. I know how hard it is also to change their minds too. They don't get it at all. Thank you Rabbi Tovia Singer
I live right in the middle of Catholic central too lol
@Abraham Mani learn some Hebrew then come back. Stop telling people what to believe for one. Two Jesus was a Jew always will be. He never deemed himself God. He didn't say to say in Jesus name either. That was your churches belief. Stop trying to convert the Jews. They don't appreciate that nonsense.
@@Yce_Take why do you have to interject negative things when not you or anyone else knows how I pray or what understanding I was given. Have a great day. You don't know everything but you seem to think you do. That is nothing right now that anyone needs. Namaste
@@Yce_Take if I was in deep sleep I wouldn't be here in the first place.
@@Yce_Take do you hear yourself? Who is rejecting what? Sounds to me you are rejecting the truth of Torah.
Baruk Hashem. Surely I must study Neviim and Ketuvim in depth! Thank you Rabbi.
Thanks Rabbi
🎶Shalom & שבת שלום 🎶
Precious Rabbi Tovia Singer
& all yours !!
Terima Kasih !!
for this great Teachings
and
Happy New Year too⚘
07th Mar 2018
@Abraham Mani The story of messiah David in Tanakh Jewish Scripture has the purpose of teaching that when a human makes even the greatest imaginable sins God will forgive all your sins if you repent and ask God for forgiveness in the following way.
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Ecclesiastes 7:20 For there is not a righteous man on earth, who continually does good and who never sins (meaning even the good person sometimes makes mistakes because only God makes no mistakes).
Note 1. A righteous man sins many times but he is righteous because he corrects himself and returns to righteous behaviour.
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Proverbs 24:16 For though the righteous person falls seven times, he will arise (and return to righteous behaviour), but the wicked stumble under adversity (and return to wicked behaviour).
Note 1. Righteous people make mistakes but they are righteous because they return to righteous behaviour.
Note 2. Righteous people learn from their mistakes to do good behaviour.
Wicked people learn from their mistakes to do wicked behaviour.
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Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked turn from all his sins that he has committed, and keep all My commandments, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live (in Paradise), he shall not die (a never ending death in Hell fire).
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Ezekiel 18:22 None of his transgressions (wrongdoing) that he has committed shall be remembered against him; for his righteousness that he has done he shall live (in Paradise).
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Ezekiel 18:23 Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die (a never ending death in Hell fire)? said the Lord God; and not rather that he should return from his ways (of wicked behaviour), and live (in Paradise)?
Note 1. God offers Paradise to everyone who abandons bad behaviour and replaces it with good behaviour because God has no pleasure in sending anyone to Hell fire
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Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, said the LORD; though your sins be as scarlet (very great), they shall be as white as snow (completely forgiven); though they be red like crimson (very great), they shall be as wool (completely forgiven).
Note 1. God forgave all the sins of Adam.
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Isaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the man of wrongdoing (forsake) his (evil) thoughts; and let him return to the LORD (God) that He (God) may have mercy on them, and (to whoever turns) to our God, for He (God) will abundantly pardon (them who turn away from wickedness).
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Hosea 14:3 Take with you words (of prayer to God), and return to the LORD; say to Him (God), “Forgive all (our) wrongdoing, and accept that which is good (from our good deeds in Ezekiel 18:20 - 18:23); so will we give for bullocks (sacrifice) the offering of our lips (meaning instead of offering the blood sacrifice of bullocks God tells us the forgiveness of sin comes from the offering of the lips meaning ask God for forgiveness and replace bad behaviour with good behaviour in Micah 6:6 - 6:8).
Note 1. God does not want sacrifices but God wants you to ask Him for forgiveness.
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Micah 6:6 'With what shall I come before the LORD and bow myself before the most high God? Shall I come before Him with burnt-offerings, with one year old calves?
Note 1. God does not want sacrifices but God wants you to ask Him for forgiveness.
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Micah 6:7 Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams (as a sacrifice) and ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I give my first-born (child as a sacrifice) for my wrongdoing, (my first-born who is) the fruit of my body for the sin (the wrongdoing) of my soul?'
Note 1. God does not want animal or human sacrifices but God wants you to ask Him for forgiveness.
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Micah 6:8 It has been told to you O man, what is good and what the LORD does require of you: only to do justice, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God (in Ezekiel 18:20 - 18:23 and Hosea 6:6, Hosea 14:2 - 14:3 and 1 Kings 8:46 - 8:50 meaning the forgiveness of sin comes not from sacrifice but from asking God for forgiveness and replacing bad behaviour with good behaviour).
Love Jeremiah..the weeping prophet that wept not only tears but pained physically, over the destruction to come, but worst of all the opposition he had to endure from his own. Thank you rabbi for the explanation.
No, I had no doubt it does not mean the Torah is corrupted, but since all I can read is a translated version, wanted to hear what it says in its original language.
At least in this case the English seems to convey it well ..? "the false pen.. handled it falsely", Best God ever, best law ever, best promises ever and they interpreted it wrong, they interpreted their circumstances wrong and came to the wrong conclusions, coming to a horrible end, dragging the righteous with them.
Got to love, though, the favor that God gave Jeremiah even in those adverse situation... Got to love God's favor even in a pit for it is the sweetest reward, sweeter than any comfort you might enjoy. Thanks again and blessings!
"And the LORD said unto him, Wherewith? And he said, I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also: go forth, and do so." - 1 Kings 22:22
@Abraham Mani hey atleast youre here;) youre in the door to the truth
@Abraham Mani Brother I hear you crying out. Trust me, Israel, we, love you. Dont push yourself too hard brother - you are loved by the God of Israel. Try to send a message to the Lord Adonai by your own heart, without mentioning any other names. Youre very strong for being here. You can do it 💪 tell the Lord you love The Truth. you are loved by Israel - dont worry. Accept God
The related passage that I've seen twisted with this is Jer 7:22,23.
[Jer 7:22-23 KJV] 22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt, concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices: 23 But this thing commanded I them, saying, Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people: and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
What do the twisters say?
Torah never had commandments for the sacrifices nor to eat meat.
The twisters never pay attention to context or HISTORY.
They take one or two verses out of an entire book and make their presupposition the "truth".
Once someone believes they possess truth, you will never be able to knock that tower down - only Hashem can.
shalom,what's the name of the song at the end of your videos?
It is "Adon Olam." Please send me an email at toviasinger1@aol.com and I will send it to you. Shalom
Tovia Singer I sent the email. Thanks.
That song goes hard
@Abraham Mani: See my previous reply. NOWHERE did God ever mention the name "Yeshua/Jesus" to us - this is a Christian fabrication and does NOT represent what God ACTUALLY said to us in the Hebrew scriptures He gave to Moses at Mt. Sinai. Not ONE word you said is God's Truth - He NEVER said ANY of those false, pagan things to us! I don't care HOW much Hebrew you think you know - you have been PROFOUNDLY hoodwinked and lied to by Christianity, that DID NOT come from God! Your "mother tongue" has NOT enabled you to learn God's ACTUAL Truth, as given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. You need to learn God's Truth from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us - in fact, God TASKED them with this function (they replace the Priests, in the absence of the Temple), and they have been studying the original Biblical Hebrew, all the way back to Mt. Sinai (something Christianity REFUSED to do, leaving them in total darkness about what God ACTUALLY said to us!).
Also, a reminder: The "New Testament" is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. The ONLY scriptures God EVER gave to mankind, are the Hebrew scriptures (Tanach - Hebrew Bible, comprised of the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings, i.e. Psalms, Proverbs, etc.) that He gave to Moses at Mt. Sinai. PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF! God DOES NOT send His creations 'to Hell for eternity' (that is a fear mongering Christian fabrication), and God does NOT become His creations - EVER - and nowhere do the ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures tell us that He did! PLEASE do the research!!
Lol at 0:14 Rabbis look is like " Bring it on, I'm about to own this question "
@Abraham Mani no
Thanks rabbi, very interesting!
Putting trust in the name and live in his faithfulness, listen and act Justly, love mercy be humble before your god we do well.
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Baruch Hashem!!!!
For some years prior to my Elohim teaching me the scriptures I received a night vision which frightened me. I didn't know what it meant. I saw what looked like either a gold or copper wall. There was a design on the wall and now that I think of it there was a copper scroll. One day religious people came to my house by mistake. Just as these people rang my doorbell I had lifted a writing pad where I had written down the passage in Jeremiah 15:20. This I had not understood when it was written perhaps years prior to this visit then I realised what my dream had meant. I was amazed that I lifted the answer to my dream just as these religious people arrived on my doorstep.
@Abraham Mani Watch Hell and Mr. Fudge - not even the NT teaches the idea of Hell that you believe in.
I hear this whenever I discuss with Muslims about their claim that the Torah has been corrupted.
ISLAM IS THE TRUTH FOR THIS TIME
AS MUSLIMS WE CANT DENY THAT JUDAÏSME AND CHRISTIANITY WERE PURE RELEGIONS BECAUSE GOD TAKE THE COVENANT FROM THE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS BUT THEY FAIL BECASUE JEWS KILLED THIERE PROPHETS (ZECHARIAH /JHON THE BAPTISR /JESUS ...)
AND CHRISTIANS MADE DOCOTRIN OF TRINITY /MAKING JESUS GOD OR A SON OF GOD AS WEEL AS MAKING MARY HOLY AND SAINT LIKE GOD
THIS IS WHY ISLAM IS THE FINAL MESSEAGE BETWEEN GOD AND HUAMNS .!
Havent you understand "The kingdom of god " in your book
The kingdom of god is the covenant and the devine victory
Nation of jews and christians fail on that so the kingdom of god move to muslims 🤭☺
I really wish I could see William's face at the moment that Rabbi Singer made that joke.
Quoting out-of-context should be an unforgivable sin.
I agree it's the main reason for most of the problems in the world
@@painkeller20
I believe that politics being involved
with religion has been the cause
for most of the problems in the world.
If politics were not linked to religion,
by people (both clerics and politicians)
who want to advance their own cause;
people around the world would view
a person's religion as a personal
choice. And, that others should not
interfere with said person's beliefs.
I knew you'd have a response to this🤣
It was a magnificent display of what gen X affectionately calls "the chewbacca defense"
The prophets, were the prophets of Baal, and they worshipped EL, which is EN.LIL, and his children. They worshipped these gods in the Temple and profaned The Most High God's, holy name. Nebuchadnezzar came in by the power of God, and Jeremiah knew and worked with Nebuchadnezzar, because the Assyrians and even Zedekiah, Whom Nebuchadnezzar set as king over Judah), were worshipping the Assyrian and Canaanite Gods. Not the Most High God; which Nebuchadnezzar's God was called the most high God, as well. Mighty deep subject rabbi. I would love to get into this with you. It's really profound!
Jermiah don't say scriptures are false .Jermiah is talking about scribes who misinterpreted scriptures . It was not prophecy or word of God. Jermiah warned those scribes who were false scribes and were not authorised .
I know a young Orthodox Rabbi - he said he hadn't read the Prophets. I don't understand. He has a photographic memory and knows the Talmud.
So why in Jeremiah 42 and 43 did he specifically say god doesn’t want Jews to go to Egypt??
Please, Rabbi Singer, respond and clarify. The Torah of Moses was clearly changed somewhat. Masechet Sanhedrin 21a and b. Also, the book 'The Limits of Orthodox Theology" by Marc Shapiro reveals the minute changes since Moses wrote the Torah down.
Im not here with any religion...only Creator...
If i were in a situation of needing to choose the truth of a prophets words, (so i would not be defeated) ... i would examine my deeds and then the deeds of the others and i would have to choose the words of Jeremiah .... i see this very thing today my heart breaks for them for people are still choosing the false prophets words.
Is there anything this lovely man doesn't have some familiarity with??
*kathy schaffer:* ...and on top of that, apparently he can cook, too - and goes scuba diving, I just learned recently! 😉
Lol. I know what you mean. There is no doubt that he is a holy man bringing us to HaShem through the Truth.
@Abraham Mani: I USED to believe all that garbage, until God opened my eyes and revealed that it is NOT His Truth - NOT even close! I was a born-again, baptized, Evangelical Baptist Christian for 40+ years, but I rejected that falsehood almost 18 yrs. ago, when God, as I said, revealed His ACTUAL Truth to me. Before you arrogantly and self-righteously tell me, as other 'Christians' have, that I was never a "REAL" Christian - that's NOT your call to make. YOU can't see into a person's heart and know what their relationship to God is. Keep that in mind!
What you need to acknowledge is, that, first of all the 'New Testament', is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God, and NOWHERE do the ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect and binding TODAY - a LIVING document!) Hebrew scriptures tell us that God ever gave us a SECOND SET (i.e. NT) of scriptures. And PLEASE don't quote Jer. 31, which has zero to do with a "New Testament", but is referring to a miracle that God will perform for the Jewish people in the Messianic era, when He will place His Torah DIRECTLY into the hearts and minds of the Jewish people, so that they will no longer need to study and teach the Torah, since they will already KNOW it by heart because of the miracle God will perform in those days. "New covenant" in NO way equates to "New Testament" - NOT even close! Read the passage for yourself and you will see that what I've just told you is God's Truth. When God gave us His Hebrew scriptures at Mt. Sinai, He specifically told us NOT to follow ANY other teaching than what is in those scriptures. Christianity IS another teaching, therefore, we are NOT to follow what it says - God's orders!
God ABHORS human sacrifice (a purely PAGAN ritual!) therefore the 'Jesus dying on a cross for people's sins' narrative, just did NOT happen - and would CERTAINLY NOT be approved by God! Also, nowhere did God ever tell us that He sends His creations to "Hell for eternity", which is a Christian fabrication - that would make Him an evil, unforgiving MONSTER!! That is the 'god' YOU worship, but is NOT the God of the Jewish people and does NOT reflect what God said to us in His ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures. OUR God specifically tells us that we can approach Him DIRECTLY, confess our sins, repent of those sins, and ask Him for His forgiveness - no DEAD GUY on a cross required!!
PLEASE do the research on how your false, pagan religion started, and you WILL discover that it absolutely DID NOT come from God, Creator of the universe. Christianity has been outright LYING to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. THIS is what you need to research for YOURSELF, and stop listening with "itching ears" to the "blind guides" who have been lying to you from the pulpit every week.
@Abraham Mani: See my previous reply. NOWHERE did God ever mention the name "Yeshua/Jesus" to us - this is a Christian fabrication and does NOT represent what God ACTUALLY said to us in the Hebrew scriptures He gave to Moses at Mt. Sinai. Not ONE word you said is God's Truth - He NEVER said ANY of those false, pagan things to us! I don't care HOW much Hebrew you think you know - you have been PROFOUNDLY hoodwinked and lied to by Christianity, that DID NOT come from God! Your "mother tongue" has NOT enabled you to learn God's ACTUAL Truth, as given to Moses at Mt. Sinai. You need to learn God's Truth from the Orthodox Jewish rabbis, the ONLY people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us - in fact, God TASKED them with this function (they replace the Priests, in the absence of the Temple), and they have been studying the original Biblical Hebrew, all the way back to Mt. Sinai (something Christianity REFUSED to do, leaving them in total darkness about what God ACTUALLY said to us!).
Also, a reminder: The "New Testament" is NOT scripture that was given to mankind by God. The ONLY scriptures God EVER gave to mankind, are the Hebrew scriptures (Tanach - Hebrew Bible, comprised of the Torah, the Prophets and the Writings, i.e. Psalms, Proverbs, etc.) that He gave to Moses at Mt. Sinai. PLEASE do the research for YOURSELF! God DOES NOT send His creations 'to Hell for eternity' (that is a fear mongering Christian fabrication), and God does NOT become His creations - EVER - and nowhere do the ETERNAL Hebrew scriptures tell us that He did! PLEASE do the research!!
@@fredgillespie5855: I NEVER "...stop and THINK about the implications..." of God's TRUTH - except for telling people what it is, as learned from the rabbis!
The answer is yes. The scribes have corrupted the torah. And jeremiah 8:8 does say they truly corrupted that
So why did he mention the Yemenites on the beginning?
can anybody give the summary?
Is this the extended, extra long version with verbal footnotes? 😑
Maybe here is the place where # 23:19 is meant for Caliphate in *80:13-15.
And Jeremiah 8:8 regards *81:19-20!
But if consider resurrecting *82:9 as a lie, then indeed Isaiah's 8:8 it is Risen...
Prophets are not Liars. But they're not God either. They are human. Humans make mistakes more often than you think.
Bravo rabbi,🌞🌞❣️❣️
32:50 But rabbi I stream you on my television. 🤣
Like a child insisting on ice cream for dinner. It's _supposed_ to be a finishing touch, just to sweeten your mouth at the end. If, instead, you insist that it be your entire meal, you'll run into trouble quickly!
Shalom. Tovia, what do you think of the book of Jasher in regards to what these people are discussing? Everything that is spoken of as far as the story goes with Ishmael and Isaac seems to match up with the exception of how the story twists with regards to the story of the Christian Bible on the purpose of the sacrifice. With regards to your video was the Babylonian Talmud being put to use during this time? If so could they have possibly have been trying to write some of these traditions and additions to Torah during this time as well? The way I understand Jeremiah with all the traps and snares spoken of is that the leaders were adding to Torah and God was constantly condemning them for it.
The way I understand it is that the Talmud, Mishrad added much to Torah which made it a burden in many ways, I have downloaded a version of it and over 3000 pages is more than the scriptures we have for us to read. I have read much and some of it way out of line with Torah... excerpt from Eruvin, 21b... "my son! Be careful concerning rabbinical decrees even more than the Torah... the Torah contains prohibitions... But anyone who violates a rabbinical decree is worthy of death." Here is Rambam's intro to Mishnah... If there are 1000 prophets, all of them the stature of Eliyah and Elisha, giving a certain interpretation, and 1001 rabbis, not according to the 1000 prophets, Elohim did not permit us to learn from the prophets, only from the rabbis who are men of logic and reason. Don't get me wrong as the writings of Paul from the Christian book seem to have taken away from Torah. I keep to Torah, as best I can, and listen what the the almighty has to say in Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32, and Proverbs 30:6... do not add or take away from His laws and commandments. Shalom
My question would be, God promised to raise a prophet, just one like Moses. Why the others? It is pretty confusing.
So, humans write claiming God inspired them and others change them claiming God inspired them. As it was shall ever be....
It is not surprising that the Jews listened to the false prophets. In all their history they were continually told to trust in the Lord. Do not make peace treaties with Egypt. Do not ally with another nation. There is no savior but the Lord. The Lord will destroy your enemies. The Lord prepares a table for me in front of my enemies. It’s no wonder they believed what they did, after having been fed this stuff for 700 years.
I love the message, stop dissecting scripture from a book you have not read to prove a point that never truly existed.
What are you referring to?!
Someone not reading Jeremiah? Something wrong with these people.
Same today as in time of Jeremiah. The peacemakers who call for peace and repentence are ignored and always looking for a reason for war.
Rabbi Singer once said that
"politics corrupt everything"
when discussing the mess
in Israel/Palestine and the
Jews/Muslims.
He's right about that!.
Islam has been totally
corrupted by politics.
Christianity has been
corrupted by politics.
Obviously the same is true
of Judaism (at least when
the politics of a physical
state are concerned)
@Abraham Mani Amen Abraham.
Essayez avec cette orthographe :
si vous voulez pousser quelqu'un à devenir athé, donnez lui à lire le tanakh ou l'ancien testament, et si vius voulez lui exploser la tête donnez lui le nouveau testament avec ses contradictions.
if you want to push someone to become an atheist, give him or her to read the tanakh or the old testament, and if you want to blow his head off, give him the new testament with its contradictions
Having been converted and transformed by The Holy Spirit is evidence enough for me that Jesus Christ is The Messiah. My transfiguration surpasses what any Rabbi or Biblical Scholars mind understands and rationalizes. A transformed life bears witness.
*Judith Carlone Levi:* The mind is a strange thing. If you want something badly enough your own mind will manufacture 'feelings' to confirm that what you wanted to experience, is 'truth', when in fact it may not be, and in this case, definitely is not, according to the scriptures. What we need to do, is find out for OURSELVES what God ACTUALLY said to us on Mt. Sinai, and not what fallible men ("blind guides") preach from their pulpits and pass off as the 'word of God', when in fact, nothing could be further from the Truth. We need to know for SURE: What did God ACTUALLY say to us?
What you need to realize, is that "Jesus" didn't say ONE word that is attributed to him in the false, pagan NT, since he was already DEAD for at least 20 YEARS by the time it was written. Yet they quote him word-for-word - impossible! Just try to remember what YOU said yesterday, word-for-word - again, impossible!
When God gave us His Hebrew scriptures on Mt. Sinai, He specifically told us that they are ETERNAL (i.e. STILL in effect, and binding today!). He also told us that we are NOT to follow ANY other teaching than what is in His Eternal Hebrew scriptures. Christianity IS another teaching, therefore we are NOT to follow its false, pagan message.
There is nowhere in the Hebrew scriptures where God told us to expect a SECOND SET of scriptures (i.e. the false, pagan NT) since the scriptures He already gave to us are, as I said, Eternal, and are therefore still in effect right this moment. Jer. 31 is NOT speaking about a "New Testament", but a "new covenant" - huge difference! That passage is referring to a miracle that God will perform for the Jewish people in Messianic times (i.e. hasn't happened yet!) where he will implant His Eternal Hebrew scriptures DIRECTLY into the hearts and minds of the Jewish people, so they will no longer have to study and teach the scriptures, because they will ALREADY know them by heart!
PLEASE do some honest research on how your false, pagan religion started, and you WILL discover that it absolutely did NOT come from God, Creator of the universe. Listen to what the rabbis are saying - they have been studying the original Hebrew scriptures all the way back to Mt. Sinai, and they are therefore the only people eminently qualified to interpret the Hebrew scriptures for us. Christianity, on the other hand, refused to study the original Hebrew, leaving them in profound darkness as to what God's Eternal Hebrew scriptures ACTUALLY mean. Christianity has been outright lying to us for thousands of years, and is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind. Please do the research for YOURSELF, and stop listening to the "blind guides" who have only been teaching us falsehoods for centuries.
Jesus is God I am the seed of Joseph the Messiah I saw Jesus he is God otherwise known as Hashem. Join the Timothean religion before it's too late.
I've read the pseudepigrapha and Ezekiel claims that Isaiah is a false prophet. Because Isaiah says no one can see God and Ezekiel Saw God. Gospel of Timothy
Yet Jeremiah even in chp 7 says those prophets/false prophets prophesied by BAAL opposite to what you are implying (Jer 2.8, Jer 7.9, Jer 11.13, Jer 12:16, Jer 32.35) Moreso in Jer 2.13 it says my people have committed two evils they have forsaken Me the fountain of life and they hewed themselves cisterns that cannot hold waters. Jeremiah was preaching Jesus and they kept saying to him : "where is this Word of the Lord, let him come now" Jer 17.15 . In the context of Jer 8.8 in vs 9 it says how they lied Jer 8:9 - The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them?
So indeed the scribes had lying pen, now how many verses in the Torah did this scribes write which we don’t know 🤷🏿♂️
You forgot Allah said he is going to protect his word
Rabbi Singer, how do you reach the conclusion you are teaching in this video? Has it all been documented and written down? I mean no disrespect, and please correct me if I am wrong....but didn't G-d send the Jews into exile because they did not keep his Sabbath (for many years)? How could the people neglect such an important law if it was being read aloud to them regularly? Was there perhaps false teachers who explained the importance away? Twisted the teaching? As an American, I see present politicians perverting the original meaning of the USA constitution on all sorts of issues. Who's to say there wasn't a period of time when corrupt rabbis, teachers, scribes, false prophets did similar things to the Torah or Tanach? G-d said not to add or take away from what is written ( Deuteronomy 4:2) which implies to me tampering ( by humans) is "possible". If it was impossible (for instance, if G-d were to strike anyone who "tried" dead with say a lightening bolt) then there would be no need for a warning correct? The warning is to discourage any tampering.....but does the warning actually prevent it? How would you know if a generation of bad men might have corrupted a couple of things or not? I'm not suggesting 50% error. I am not even suggesting 10% error. But what if maybe only 1% error occurred? You say these false prophets were local men of Israel, and were not merely foreigners who suddenly appeared out of nowhere. They had beards, would have been known by the people, having been raised there, their peers, neighbors would have known if their character was good or bad right? Makes no sense that men of previous good upbringing (good character) would suddenly seek to deceive everyone by becoming a "false prophet". On the other hand, if they were known to be bad examples, why would a majority of people believe them...over Jeremiah? If you have 2 people telling different things.....seems you would follow the person who has proven to be of good character. Knowing people do not typically change (a leopard can not change his spots) meaning a person of bad character does not typically change and become good. Makes no sense why people of Israel would follow or believe these false prophets over Jeremiah....and surely a man like Jeremiah who G-d would choose to use, would have had upstanding character that everyone would have already been aware of. Do you understand the point I am trying to make here? I come from a Christian background. However I do not see Jesus as being G-d or having abolished ANY of the laws of God. I see 2/3 of the Christian (new testament) as being corrupted by Paul. Whereas Paul taught against the law and blasphemed G-d and Moses, I don't see anyone else doing that. I reject ALL the writings of Paul. If as you say there were false prophets attempting to mislead the people (Jeremiah 8:8) then where were the Rabbi's? Why weren't the Rabbi's who had the Torah and Tanach telling the people NOT to listen to these false prophets....but to instead listen to Jeremiah?
The rabbis and the prophets spoke and the people made their own decisions.
You will see the same thing happened before the destruction of the first and second temple.
The rabbis and prophets deliver the word but it is up to the people to accept or reject the word.
The people sometimes rejected the word and it was at those times where we see the temples destroyed.
Rabbis and prophets are only human and they cannot turn evil people into righteous people.
Sometimes evil wins in this world but HaShem God Allah says the evil will not win in the hereafter.
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Wouldn't trust your word as far as I could throw it. You religo fanatic''s are to big for yall boots. Just low life creeps.
I think your doing what many people do when they approach the scriptures, hindsight is 20/20. So we can critique based upon what we know...but we can disregard social norms of “that” time for our own, we do this a whole lot as Americans. At this time it’s known that the people moved with the “majority” rather than the minority, and if the majority say this is right, it doesn’t matter what the minority states even if that minority turns out to be right. This issue denotes the failover of the people in the resolution proposed by Jeremiah, the consistency of the Torah, if they had bothered to check between the opinions they would have found the proper answer, but they didn’t, they trusted in the “spirituality” of things rather than the rationality of Gods word. A false prophet is only revealed to be a false prophet after the prophesy fails. By the time the failure occurs it’s too late most times to reconcile, your going through already. The corruption of the Torah itself isn’t what is at point here, the corruption of Torah in this sense is in the “application” of the teachings of Torah. This is also considered Torah, both word and deed. I’m a Christian “so they call me”, I’m also one of those “speaking in tongues” folk that everyone critiques. And I also trust I the scriptures as interpreted by the Jews more so than the Greeks. They are the ones who wrote it. So I have learned to value Jewish rendering of Jewish Erin tings about Jewish understanding about God. And I have concluded Islam is a closer to Judaism than any Greek sources Christian thinker ever was or could be, and that I have a ton of learning to do to catch up. :)
All verses about the corruption of the Torah in the Quran can be discussed.
I think that the corruption, which is mentioned is more like a wrong interpretation of the scriptures by Jews and Christians than a written corruption.
I think it refers to both written and oral alteration but doesn't need to specify because it's about dealing with intended meaning and intention. For example, Muslims say as-salaam-alaykum (peace be on you) but there was a faction of Jews that would say it quickly so it came out like as-saam-alaykum (death be upon you). So Prophetic wisdom was not to curse in return but to simply mirror by saying 'wa-alaykum' (and upon you also) - so if your intention was for peace then peace to you and if you had anything else in your heart then more of the same 'good' to you either way.
Quranism kuran @
SHUT YOUR MOUTH & PROOF IT FROM QURAN.
Torah is A Book of Guidance in Quran.
Quran 28-49 >>Say O Muhammad "Then bring a Book from God, which is a better guide than these two Books Torah & Quran that I may follow it, if you are truthful.
2-53 >>And recall when I gave Moses the Scripture and criterion that perhaps you would be guided.
6-154 >>>Then I gave Moses the Scripture, making complete My favor upon the one who did good and as a detailed explanation of all things and as guidance and mercy that perhaps in the matter of the meeting with their Lord they would believe.
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Why do you say to me Shut your mouth I didn't say anything negative about the Torah.
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You Said
All verses about the corruption of the Torah in the Quran can be discussed.
What is This ?
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You can Better say All The Verses What We Dont Believe from Quran Can Be Discussed from Torah !
For example ---- The Sin of David.
Doughters of Lot.
Nice Video 😃😃😃😃😃😃
11:00 Then why did Ezra put dots above words to erase them, because he didn't know if he belonged there or not?
Dots do not erase anything in Hebrew. Dots give you the pronounciation in Hebrew.
@@samvoron1727 Nope - there were small dots above a few words indicating where the scribe was unsure if a word belonged or not. Look it up on any Jewish source.
Thank you for caring and loving us enough to try and save our souls.
אֵיכָה תֹאמְרוּ חֲכָמִים אֲנַחְנוּ, וְתוֹרַת יְהוָה אִתָּנוּ; אָכֵן הִנֵּה לַשֶּׁקֶר עָשָׂה, עֵט שֶׁקֶר סֹפְרִים. - How do ye say: 'We are wise, and the Law of YHWH is with us'? Lo, certainly in vain hath wrought the vain pen of the scribes. "
But Scribes are just copyists, not interpreters of the law. Some may say that in old times Scribes were teachers of Law as well. Is it saying that man-made traditions are wrong, but the Torah is not corrupted
Do a video on tikkun soferim
Gospel of the holy 12 explains how the Torah was changed, right from Christ abstaining from flesh achieving the Genesis 1 to 9 life well open your eyes to the kingdom is there lights are the ones who embody the grapes and the bread of Christ
Clementine Homilies on this topic:
“For the Scriptures have had joined to them many falsehoods against God on this account.
The prophet Moses having by the order of God delivered the law, with the explanations, to certain chosen men, some seventy in number, in order that they also might instruct such of the people as chose, after a little the written law had added to it certain falsehoods contrary to the law of God, who made the heaven and the earth, and all things in them…
And this took place in reason and judgment, that those might be convicted who should dare to listen to the things written against God, and those who, through love towards Him, should not only disbelieve the things spoken against Him, but should not even endure to hear them at all, even if they should happen to be true, judging it much safer to incur danger with respect to religious faith, than to live with an evil conscience on account of blasphemous words.”
“Simon [Magus], therefore, as I learn, intends to come into public, and to speak of those chapters against God that are added to the Scriptures, for the sake of temptation, that he may seduce as many wretched ones as he can from the love of God.
*For we do not wish to say in public that these chapters are added to the Bible, since we should thereby perplex the unlearned multitudes, and so accomplish the purpose of this wicked Simon. For they not having yet the power of discerning, would flee from us as impious; or, as if not only the blasphemous chapters were false, they would even withdraw from the word.* Wherefore we are under a necessity of assenting to the false chapters, and putting questions in return to him concerning them, to draw him into a strait, and to give in private an explanation of the chapters that are spoken against God to the well-disposed after a trial of their faith"
*“Everything that is spoken or written against God is false.
But that we say this truly, not only for the sake of reputation, but for the sake of truth, I shall convince you when my discourse has proceeded a little further. Whence you, my most beloved Clement, ought not to be sorry at Simon's having interposed a day between this and the discussion. For today, before the discussion, you shall be instructed concerning the chapters added to the Scriptures; and then in the discussion concerning the only one and good God, the Maker also of the world, you ought not to be distracted. But in the discussion you will even wonder how impious men, overlooking the multitudes of things that are spoken in the Scriptures for God, and looking at those that are spoken against Him, gladly bring these forward; and thus the hearers, by reason of ignorance, believing the things against God, become outcasts from His kingdom. Wherefore you, by advantage of the postponement, learning the mystery of the Scriptures, and gaining the means of not sinning against God, will incomparably rejoice.”*
20:54 Jeremiah almost got killed and a black slave saved him ? But the Israelites WERE black and are still black. Numbers 12: 9-10
THE MEANING OF THE TORAH !!
It's not about distorting Torah. Torah is the record of Moses, and he is referring to the growth of the Annunciation and the new state. That is why there are prophets who illuminate and upgrade Torah. Understand Torah as a fixed dogma that is literally understood by the dungeon for those who remain in the spirit of the letter.
Yet Moses tells the Jews that the Law is actually written in the hearts of men. Literally reference to the Torah is a radical feature. On the other hand there are those who are lost in the interpretation of some of their human venom in alchemy terms until the magic of the kabbalah. Giving meaning to the letter as concealed meanings and code is deviation and reproach for those whom God himself set as punishment because they did not accept the simplicity of the truth of the human heart.
Torah as well as other records and books are just a means in Obav. They have the significance of the devoted important means but they themselves are not an interpretation.
The God of the Scriptures is the God of the Father, not the God of books, as they see, for example, in the Muslims, or in some Jews who perceive the Torah as the supreme dogma. Thus, publishers are neither books nor books, but persons, elected persons, ministries. Prophets, chosen people, etc. And not the book by itself. The books are later written records of the Post: The object is a living Word of God which is not limited by the letter, because neither the Spirit of God nor the unmistakable Word of God can be limited in the letter of the book.
That is why there are prophets that point to the depths of the meaning of Torah and the growth of the Objective whose object is the Messiah, which is the main theme of the Bible from the beginning, and only in this way can the context be seen from the beginning and the righteous separation of the Genesis book, for example. Remaining at the level of an old letter means being limited and in the darkness of ignorance. No offense, but today the Jews in prison are separated from the fullness of the Book. However, the Annunciation explains the meaning of this current state of punishment of punishment and announces the great conversion of the Jews at the very end, and in spite of all, they continue to be the Brothers for the fathers as the irrevocable God's gift and choice-
Glad for your conversion! But be careful !! do not take visions lightly even when they appear in the Name of the Lord. Don’t deal with demons and focus your attention on hope!
Looking at demons and states of hell can be a trap that develops fear and leads in the wrong direction of conversion. Insight into depth is the insight of the Court and the Judgment belongs to God and we are not able to carry that insight only after we are converted like those in milk. Satan is a defeated force and he becomes a power when we give it meaning ourselves and if we constantly look at him and the torture he does then it captures our attention and over time haunts us. Picturesquely, it means like when we walk along the shore and suddenly a terrible shark emerges. And we are terribly scared, but he is in the sea and we are in a dry area and in a dry area he has no power to capture us. So Watch and cultivate attention.
Fear is often the motive of those who bear guilt in conscience and strive for instant conversion and want to save themselves immediately by sitting in the first place, so the devil seduces them and convinces them that they are above others because they have visions but a newborn child cannot bear level of high visions. Isaiah: Who is he referring to in revelation? When does he teach that wisdom? Zarv children weaned from milk? Separated from the chest? '
King Jehoiakim destroyed the scroll Almighty God instructed Jeremiah to write Jeremiah chapter 36. The two tribe had become extremely evil and Jeremiah presented to warn them to turn around from their pagan practices and evil dealings in opposition to the law of the Most High God.
Preaching a messiah too ? The righteous branch is Israel still, the house of David.
Dear Rabbi, is it possible that the Taurat is corrupted, by the Y'hudim themselves as what the Quran says, and Yermeyahu HaNevi came there sent by YHWH, to renew/rewrite the Taurat?
You know, as all the Prophets sent by YHWH to either maintain the Law or make it better, including Yeshua HaMeshiach and MHMD HaNevi...
The Torah is protected because God Allah HaShem has ordered every generation to follow it for 100,000 years meaning forever.
Torah Deuteronomy 5:10 And showing mercy to the thousandth generation of them that love Me (God) and keep My (God’s) commandments.
Note 1. In the second of the Ten Commandments of God He says those that love God shall keep His commandments.
If humans lived for 100 years then the thousandth generation of humans would be in 100,000 years.
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Torah Deuteronomy 29:28 The secret things belong to the LORD our Allah; but the things that are revealed belong to us and to our children forever (for all time), so that we may do all the words of this law (Torah).
Note 1. The Torah is protected forever.
@@samvoron1727 according to Islam, the original Taurat (Torah of Moshe), the original Zabur (Psalms of David), the original Injeel (Gospel of Y'shua) and the Quran are maintained in the Preserved Tablet...
But the Taurat nowadays (the one sent to Moshe Avinu), some of the Laws are Divinely changed from one Nevi to another Nevi. But some of it too were changed by the unfaithful Y'hudim.
P.s. there is no such thing as our Allah or our Hashem or our YHWH. Allah is The G*d. I do not say "my The God (Allah)". Or "my The Name (HaShem), or "my YHWH".
@Testament Faith yeah, the original one that is preserved in the Preserved Tablet. Not the nowadays corrupted Hebrew Bible.
If and only IF Jews follow the Tawrah then they would have reasonable knowledge of the Creator of all, and would understand HIS core messages and would then know HIS messengers and the messages He sent to Humanity .
Because HE is one never changes humans core creation is one His core message Must be one.
hence HE said all my messengers delivered and lived according to the same Book of HIS to Humanity.
Different rituals do not negate Do not steal do not Lie Do not commit adultery do not kill ........... believe in the day after and work for it . it
is your true life there
Jeremiah 8 :8 confirmed in the Quran
(An-Nisa'):46 - Namely the Jews, they change the words from their places. They said: "We heard", but we did not want to obey. And (they say too): "Listen" while you actually hear nothing. And (they say): "Raa'ina", by twisting her tongue and criticizing religion. If they had said: "We hear and obey, and listen, and pay attention to us", it would have been better for them and more appropriate, but Allah cursed them, because of their disbelief. They have no faith except very thin faith
(Al-Baqarah):
78 - And among them there are those who are illiterate, do not know the Book (Torah), except for false stories and they only guess.
:79 - So woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, then say; "This is from Allah", (with a view) to gain a little profit by doing it. So great woe to them, the result of what their own hands have written, and great woe to them, because of what they did.
The reality disproves the quran.
God never cursed israel and will never abandon them it's only muslim fantasy.
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Read Jeremiah 23:36-40
36 And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.
37 Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken?
38 But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD;
39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.
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Written on false prophets and their followers.
You can see that god won't abandon israel in Deut. 30 and indeed israel is now the land of the jews like it was before the exile.
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The fact about Israel . under collonialism and enslaved continously by Babylonia, Persia, Great Alexander, Rome , slaughtered in West europe ( incuisition) , slaughtered in East Europe ( Pogrom) Slughtered by Hitler ( Holocaust) after Jeremiah`s age untill 20th Century. ...
God's promise to Israel has been revoked for they twisted the word`s of God
Jeremiah 23:38-40
38 But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, YE SHALL NOT SAY, THE BURDEN OF THE LORD;
39 Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:
40 And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.
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Hello Rafael ... I m sure you never read this
Deuteronomy 30:17-19
17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
Of course, the Torah has been corrupted.2.Where did Aaron died? At Mt Hor -Num 20:28 or at Moserah -Deut 10:6. Between Moserah and Mt Hor, there were at least 7 stations /campsites of the Exodus.
zahir omar your soooo wrong.
Thank you Zahir, The verses of Allah are scattered across the Torah and Quran meaning when you bring all verses together then the story of Allah becomes clear Inshallah.
Quran 2:41 Ayah 2:41 And believe in what I (Allah) have revealed (in the Quran) that confirms what you already have (in the Torah Taurat) ..."
Note 1. Allah says believe the Torah.
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Quran 3:3 Ayah 3:3 He (Allah) revealed to you (Prophet Muhammad) the Book (the Quran) of truth confirming what came before it (in the Torah Taurat and in the Gospel Injil), and He (Allah) revealed the Torah Taurat and the Gospel Injil -
Note 1. Allah says the Torah is the word of Allah.
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Quran 3:93 Ayah 3:93 “… Say (Prophet Muhammad, to the Jews of Yathrib), "Bring the Torah Taurat here and recite it (to me as evidence) if what you say is true."
Note 1. Allah says the Torah is the evidence of Allah.
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Quran 4:136 Ayah 4:136 “... and whoever has no faith in … His (Allah’s) Books … then he has strayed far away (from Allah).
Note 1. Allah says have faith in the Torah.
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Quran 6:115 Ayah 6:115 ”… No one can change His (Allah’s) Words …”
Note 1. The proof Allah is real is that no one could change the Torah.
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Number 33:31 And they journeyed from Mosera (Moserah, Moseroth), and pitched in Bene-jaakan (Beeroth-benejaakan as they travelled towards Mount Hor).
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Numbers 20:28 And Moses stripped Aaron of his garments, and put them on Eleazar his son; and Aaron died there in the top of the mount; and Moses and Eleazar came down from the mount.
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Numbers 20:29 And when all the congregation saw that Aaron was dead, all the house of Israel wept thirty days for Aaron.
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Numbers 33:39 And Aaron was a hundred and twenty and three years old when he died in mount Hor.
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Numbers 33:40 And the Canaanite, the king of Arad, who lived in the South in the land of Canaan, heard of the coming of the children of Israel.
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Deuteronomy 10:6 And (to continue the 30 days mourning the death of Aaron in safety away from the threat of the King of Arad) the children of Israel travelled (away from Mount Hor in the direction from which they came) from Bene-jaakan (Beeroth-benejaakan) to Mosera (Moserah, Moseroth); (remembering that) there (on Mount Hor in Numbers 20:22-20:29 and Numbers 32:50 and Numbers 33:37-33:39) Aaron died, and (remembering that) there (on Mount Hor in Numbers 20:22-20:29 and Numbers 32:50 and Numbers 33:37-33:39) he was buried and Eleazar his son ministered in the priest's office in his place.
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Note 1. At the time of the death of Aaron at Mount Hor in Numbers 20:22-20:29, Numbers 32:50 and Numbers 33:37-33:39 the children of Israel had travelled to Mount Hor from Mosera to Bene-jaakan in Number 33:31 however Deuteronomy 10:6 is after the death of Aaron when the children of Israel are travelling in the opposite direction away from Mount Hor from Bene-jaakan to Mosera and they are remembering the events that had occurred when Aaron died and was buried “there” meaning at Mount Hor from where they had just come from and where Eleazar his son ministered in the priest's office in his place as described in Numbers 20:22-20:29 and Numbers 33:37-33:39.
Note 2. These are verses of remembrance as can be seen in Deuteronomy 10:1 where Moses remembers the time before the death of Aaron at Mount Sinai when he received the Ten Commandments and Deuteronomy 10:6 after the death of Aaron and Deuteronomy 10:10 where Moses again recalls the time before the death of Aaron at Mount Sinai when he received the Ten Commandments.
Deuteronomy 10:7 (And when the 30 days of mourning the death of Aaron had passed in safety) they travelled from there (again towards Mount Hor) to Gudgod; and from Gudgod to Jotbah, a land of brooks of water.
Different schools of thought and
writing wrote the Torah, as well
as the entire Tanakh. The scribes
wrote what they copied. You
have to look at the footnotes
of a good edition of the Hebrew
Bible to understand what is
going on.
The same is true of the New
Testament. Some of the
gospels were written for
an Aramaic-speaking group
and others for people who
did not understand Aramaic
or Hebrew. Some were written
in Koine Greek; the lingua franca
of the Mediterranean world.
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You have to do the same with the
New Testament and Hebrew Bible
as well as the Qur'an and New
Testament. (Some places have
several names that were used
at the different times the
scriptures were written0
And, one has to study the maps
and commentaries as well as the
footnotes.
Rabbi, you can draw a list of inconsistencies in your Torah and Tanakh.
The Jewish People from Genesis to Micah always walked away from The Father and his Commandments, they almost always rebelled. Yes there was always a remnant that followed truth, but to say ALL Rabbi's, ALL Scribes, ALL Pharisees, ALL Sadusees walked the straight and narrow is NOT the truth.
Nothing is perfect. Only God is.
God also doesnt change his mind.
The Torah and Tanakh is full of stories saying: "Thus sayeth the Lord, when He did not say it. As He does not change His mind.
To say Judaism is PURE is not true, it is contaminated.
Neither is Christianity pure, it is contaminated.
You know that.
where's the muslim at?
Tovia why Don't tell Christians the truth
Can you translate in arabic
@Abraham Mani of course im ex-muslim now im christian ✝️❤️❤️
@@بيترالتونسي lol I am ex-christian 😂
Honestly, read Jeremiah 23:27 and Jeremiah 44:26 on top of Jeremiah 8:8.
Personally I don’t believe the name of Jeremiah itself as I don’t believe the names the scribes have put for the Creator inside the book.
Honestly, the creator himself was so fed up by the traitors of Judah that He said that they would no longer say His name. Good luck to find the name of the creator in the line of the Jews that are proudly descendants of the « wises ».
The true wise men are the « RaQa » people the one who have the front and the back of the head together. BaRaQaYa the scribe who is writing for the one they call Jeremiah whose name I believe is YaCHaYa is a RaQa ( Jews say that RaQa means fool by the way), the RaQa are commonly called rekabites and they don’t care about this world and wait for the new world with the new city, they are not people corruptible as they live in tents, have no land, don’t drink wine. Good luck corrupting such person to write something else than what is true concerning the Father of creation.
Anyhow, who are the scribes of today, the same than in the time of « Jeremiah », people who care about what other people think of them, about their pay check about not being kicked out of synagogues or churches or mosques.
Be aware time is coming when the lies from the scribes and the Pharisees will come out and it will stink real bad and the truth of « I Am » will shine again and His true Word will be seen and heard.
The plagues are at the door and the reverence for the name of the creator and His Word is about to be known once again, the gathering of the people of the Father of light from all the nations is about to start and the great second exodus too. So let us repent before the great day of judgment upon the earth and for those called to make it into the millennium, be truth seekers and stop trusting in men as it is a curse on anyone doing so.
Time is short, not many weeks of years are left until the revelation of the Son of man. Do you know the name of the creator ? Do you know the name of His Word aka His Son? (Proverb 30)
Just look at the letters and like a child find that there cannot be a nail (vav) in a loving creator whose name will last forever even when sin will no longer be at the end of this story we are in, at the and of the week of humanity, this whole sin and death and punishment for sin will be over, what is a nail needed for ??? Just look at what letters mean. Every letter is a symbol if the different symbols don’t add up with the meaning of the word just know : you have been lied right in front of your very eyes !!! Open your eye and wake up !!!
Instead of analysing every single letter of an old fashioned think tank of an old Nation which every Nation developped, in order to keep it together, you should recognize Jesus' message,that all men, of every Nation, are able to become the children of God, the one and only creator, by living a good Life, obeying the principles of His great Sermon in the mountain by the SEA of Galiläa!
To establish the Kingdom of god, He sent Jesus to save the world. Accept IT finally! Shalom!
*And IT IS of NO importance wether you call him Messiah, or son of Man, or son of god, or prophet or only Jesus of nazareth!*
You are stuck to letters of the Alphabet, and their numeric symbolism, you are being confused by materialistic thinking, instead of rejoycing gods Spirit in his creation and loving even your enemies, which had already been demanded by prophets before Jesus.
Need to be very careful with this question and answer especially the answer given by Tovia. A lot of other questions need to be asked and answered first. First.... who were the scribes? The scribes did creep in unaware, If you read the book of 1 chronicles the scribes use names familiar to us for the house of Judah but are not Judah of Israel. Yes scribes added things which created lies but you can catch them if you pay close attention and research everything. Ezra said that he looked across at all of the many priests that were present with him on his trip back to Jerusalem but there was not found even one Levite. According to Yahwehs laws and commandments only Levites could be Priests of his. Some other race had taken over the Priesthood! Confusion had crept in and was now Babylonian that merged into Hebrew and now had become Jewish. There teachings were the traditions of the elders that Jesus referred and that had replaced the Law of Moses. Today we call it the Talmud.
So, Johnathan Ban Uziel Torah is not different? 🤣
Sure they did the same rabbi and the Romans after they murder Yahshua
why was not the Torah given to the whole of mankind, why just to the Israel? Why not to other nations?
*nedeljko satora:* The Talmud teaches that God DID offer His Torah to the other nations BEFORE even offering it to the Jewish people. The nations questioned God as to what was in His Torah, and when they learned that they were forbidden to steal, murder and commit adultery, they rejected the Torah! When God offered His Torah to the Jewish people, they accepted it sight unseen, because they knew that because it was from God, it could only contain instructions for their good. Therefore they said "Na'aseh v'nishma" - "We will do, and we will hear." and they accepted to follow God's Eternal Hebrew scriptures and become a light to the nations.
I love you High Priest of the Most High G-d, Adonai Elohim Tzevaot, blessed is He you have dedicated your whole life to the study of the Word of the Most High, blessed is He, and you will be sanctified, glorify, among men. Hashem, loves you and so do I. I pray that the whole world come to the truth of the Living G-d, blessed is He, that is the only WAY the world will be saved. He, the Almighty, blessed is He, is the only ONE TRUE G-D AND THOSE WHO FOLLOW HIM, AND GLORIFY HIS NAME WILL BE SAVED. THERE IS NO OTHER G-D BUT HIM. BLESSED IS HE!!!
Why is the real jersulem hidden in south Africa below the Nile River and there's basheba all the cities are in history map's and pictures of explorers ! It's still no one living there until yahshua brings his new jersulem down from heaven ! It became a destolated place because of all the sins they were doing !!! So God destroyed it ! And they left !to a new place !
j 7:21
ho 6:6
What does the rabbi think of Nephi in the Book of Mormon? Supposedly the book of Nephi was written 600 years before Christ and predicted the destruction of the Jerusalem with its people being hauled off to Babylon. Nephi was told to flee the city and come to America In boats the Lord instructed them to build. The records were written on gold/brass plates and hidden in America. Joseph Smith found the gold plates and translated them into the Book of Mormon. I would hope the rabbi would be open minded enough not to dismiss these books before reading them. Also note that these books were translated from Egyptian cuneiform into English by Joseph Smith. So outdated words like biblica, could have been translated into modern day words like Bible. Someone had told me that they knew the book was fake because it contained the modern word Bible. But I was open enough to understand that the Book of Mormon is a translated book, not the original brass plates. What makes me believe Joseph Smith story is that until copper plates were discovered in the Dead Sea Scrolls, nobody has ever heard of the Bible being printed on gold, copper or brass plates.
We know for a fact that Torah did change. The Dead Sea Scrolls the rabbi cites actually show this; the Book of Jeremiah for example is 1/7th longer today than in some of the Dead Sea Scroll manuscripts. There are also significant differences between the text we have today and the 1100 year old Aleppo Codex. All historical evidence suggests the Bible is a text like any other that evolved over time.
What you are ignoring is that the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in a place called a genizah. That is where old, worn out, and UNOFFICIAL (that is, scrolls which contain mistakes) are put. If they contain the name of G-d, they are placed in a cave and later buried _en masse_. This also goes for tefillin that are not made according to halacha, yet contain or contained scriptures in them.
The Aleppo Codex is not a Torah and it cannot be used to make a kosher Torah. It is a Masoretic manuscript which spells words differently than they are found in the Torah. Of all the different spellings, you will only find additions and deletions of what are called vowel-letters: Yud, Vav, Hei, Alef. In all the cases (82 in all in Leningrad Codex) - I cannot speak for the Aleppo Codex, since a great deal of it has been burned and destroyed before being digitized, but I can speak of the Leningrad Codex - there are minute alterations of extra letters which DO NOT change the meaning or pronunciation of ANY word in the Torah. For instance, let's say that I write the word Refidim missing a letter yud; this actually happens in the Torah frequently. In some places, a word is written in full spelling and in some cases the same word is written missing one or more vowel-letters. You can spell Refidim four ways without affecting the meaning and pronunciation: Resh-Pei-Yud-Dalet-Yud-Mem (in full), Resh-Pei-Dalet-Yud-Mem (missing first yud), Resh-Pei-Yud-Dalet-Mem (missing second yud), and Resh-Pei-Dalet-Mem (missing both yuds). The Masoretic text also includes the pronunciation of each word with additional vowel marks called nikkud and trope/cantillation marks which control the sense of a phrase. For instance, the English phrase can have two meaning based on the pauses or commas: "give me thirty two cent stamps". It can mean "give me 30 two-cent stamps" or "give me 32 cent stamps". The added marks for pauses and accents makes it clear that a phrase will be read with its intended meaning.
We are not talking a few vowels here, some older manuscripts e.g. lack key prophecies that show clear signs of having been adde after the fact. There is currently a great scholarly edition being prepared of the Hebrew Bible that traces many of the alterations:
www.sbl-site.org/HBCE/HBCE_Method.html
The fact that there are big scholarly debates about which readings are preferred for a critical edition shows that the Torah is far from uniform if you consider all the existent textual evidence. I know a religious Jew can never accept any of these arguments because it would undermine their faith, but scholarly consensus is that Torah is a historical text like any other. You don't have to accept this of course, historical schlarship is always a matter of plausibility, never of certainty because we weren't there. It becomes a matter of faith if you want to uphold that Torah is eternal and unchangeable and that all other readings are simply unsanctioned copies or scribal notes or whatever you want to make up that kind of fits the evidence. But you shouldn't pretend like scholarly consensus supports the religious point of view because it simply doesn't.
I read the site, the method, and what documents they source. Their inclusion of the Samaritan "Torah" is a really big mistake. That is not a Torah in any stretch of the imagination. They are a different people and not Jews. They had a different Temple site. They did not follow the traditions of the scribes in maintaining the correct version of the text, and thus it became so widely erroneous that it is unrecognizable as a Torah.
There have been efforts to collect all the minute differences from all the Torah scrolls in the world, so they are sort of reinventing the wheel, doing work that had already been completed many years ago. It is called Torah Sheleimah authored by Menachem Mendel Kasher in 1927.
Just to be clear, there are WIDE and MANY difference between the other scrolls - Prophets and Writings, but NOT in the Torah itself, the five books of Moses.
Let me say I am Jeremiah returned as Jeremy Michael middle name nicknamed moeszer shortened to moe speech impediment . Out womb whole three in one whole known to the true virgin mother creator and the hope the man of understanding . And you mistaken in how much sure way more all around sure as hell misunderstanding on many things . I born with the bible in my name birthday spot born just because you Pretend it's not sure as hell doesn't mean I am not the hope for the man of understanding known to the true virgin mother creator and won't taste death the living book is in me who else could touch it was before I was born .
"if torah is corrupted, how do we know anything? therefore torah is never corrupted"
maybe torah is corrupted and we can't know anything in this time of thirst for the word of yhwh. in this time of confusion and madness during exile.
It was some greek s who tried to translate Tanakh .
It was Ptolemy II Philadelphus, who ruled
285-246 BCE who gathered *72 Jewish*
*scholars to translate the Hebrew Bible*
*into Koine Greek - the Septuagint.*
(It is mentioned in the Talmud and in
Jewish legends)
It was considered valid by Judaism at the
time. Some of the Dead Sea scrolls are
identical to passages in the LXX ("70")
Jews began to abandon the use of the
LXX during the second century CE/AD.
Christians had, by then, adopted the
LXX. Because as time went on; most
converts to Christianity were Greco-
Roman pagans who did not speak/
understand Hebrew or Aramaic
@@here_we_go_again3300 The Septuagint was only a translation of the 5 books of Moses. It was not a translation of the entire Hebrew Bible. The original book was burnt. Later non-Jews translated the Hebrew Bible and called it under the same name Septuagint.
@Abraham Mani Those are lies. You caused yourself to have a vision. G-d cannot have a child. Nothing can ever equal G-d. Jesus is not the messiah because he did not fulfil any requirements. Nor is belief in the messiah a commandment in the Torah. Surely G-d can forgive who He wants to no blood required. Jesus is just an idol. It will be funny when all those who believe in Jesus will be punished for worshipping idols.
סופרים - נביאים Scribes- Prophets
prophet in tanakh good poeple but not really they do great sin
in quran prophet is good peolel
torah cahnge is true iswear
word of god ot perfect but changed
verses was taken out / verses added in
interpolation
jeremiah literally talk about torah
The true Messiach is Yeshua of Nazareth brother. I hope you find him before your soul's expiration. Isaiah, moses, and the prophets spoke of him. He is every letter of the Hebrew alphabet. He is .....The tetragrammaton....Behold the hand, Behold the nail...Halleluyah!
Tora Is nor corrupted. However quite often misinterpreted by the rabbis. They are often locked into 500 years explanation of an expression like “don’t cook the kid in its mother milk” and unable to see it in light of modern facts and knowledge that was NOT available 500 years ago. Thus gmarah, Mishnah, Talmud quite often are are incorrect. In fact it became more of a common law scenario, where we are relying on a precedent, rather then on Tora. The danger of continuing relying on the old interpretations is that Judaism is turning into a cult rather an enlightened religion.
Why do we find parallels to other religions in the Torah, (Egypt, e.g., circumcision, Ark of the Covenant, Messiah,) all these are Egyptian concepts and ... Ezra re-wrote the Torah under the supervision of the King of Persia.
Why do we find parallels to Zoroastrianism?
Research it.
Read the Gospel of John, chapter 1. God's Truth, the divine Logos is hidden in every human heart. Every culture has some insight into God's Truth though is not able to fully comprehend it. Jesus came as the Incarnate Logos to reveal the fullness of God's Truth to humanity.
1. Why would the King of Persia be interested in the Torah which is a Jewish book?
2. Why would the King of Persia be interested in rewriting the Torah which is a Jewish book?
3. The Torah forbids anyone from adding or subtracting to it therefore the Jews would have rejected a rewritten Torah. Isaiah knows this so he would never agree to rewrite the Torah because the Jewish people would reject it. If such a thing happened we would know about it because of the upset it would cause so I think we can discount that idea.
@Polako Polakovic Thank you Polako, The word Pharisees is the word used by the Romans 2000 years ago to describe the Orthodox Jews You are correct to say it is not a Jewish word. It is like the word Gentile used by the Romans to describe non Jews . Gentile is also not a Jewish word. The Romans used many non Jewish words 2000 years ago to describe things about Judaism.