How "Terrible" R6 Players are Outsmarting Everyone
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video, we're going to discuss how players who are terrible at Rainbow Six Siege are outsmarting everyone by using unconventional strategies.
Rainbow Six Siege is a complex game that requires a good amount of strategic planning. However, some players unfortunately find it difficult to play the game well. In this video, we're going to discuss how these players are using unconventional strategies to outsmart everyone and win games.
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Copper isnt the worst rank, ubisoft puts the best players there so they cant bring their amazing strats and map knowledge into proleague and comp
So true bro
Happens to me
Facts
@@3KiloFoxstop
That's what they did to me
As a professional copper, I am very disappointed that you didn’t use the open floor plan strat. It’s when you use tachanka and completely remove every single wall that’s breakable in site
this is a personal favorite
My favorite version is oryx + thunderbird personally, because now I don't really lose any health and can get across the map event faster without walls on the entire floor.
I call it "open concept" and it leads into another copper strat me and my friends made called "The doors are walls and the walls are doors", open concept but you castle off doors
one time i managed to get a group of friends to play ranked to pull dumb strats for the fun of it and we all decided to go through the entire map and break all windows all walls doors everything it was the most open match but funnest of them all because it was ridiculous hearing the enemies reactions and by enemies i mean the only 2 guys who had mics since a lot of people dont talk in r6 game chat
Variation of that is "demolition day" where you choose sledge and destroy every breakable on the map.
As a copper, seeing an Amaru pick on attack means you can sit back and relax a bit because the round is going to be won or lost in the first 10 seconds.
I’m that Amaru😎
@@egizikidwith the focus being on *lost* right?
I'm the ying who flashes their whole team.
You're welcome 🎉🎉
@@missjane1403im the finka that doesnt use the boosts you are welcome😊😊
@@fxstrd Sounds like we need to be on the same team haha
No one kicks my ass more than lower ranks. Lol when you play in higher ranks, you get used to the same default strats and pushes. You know where people are most likely gonna be and how they're going to use their utility. Lower ranks are so unpredictable, and it makes me rage 🤣
After a while people forget how to think because they're so used to the patterns of default gameplay!
@@Poxonlox exactly, that's why they're just better! Lol
Precisely! When I watch champs streams they are boring to death because the strats are so the same and so repetitive it hurts. They work, of course, but they do not entertain anymore. I will forever stay and support lower ranks, even when I have to carry my team of randoms.
only low rank who can defeat the low rank itself haha, just like you said "lower rank are so unpredictable".
i kinda lost count how many time i am pissed off because they weird strats haha
The fmg on basically any other defender would be a top tier gun. It's a shame smoke doesn't have the set up for it.
Yeah you got it around 3:50. Sometimes doing things "wrong" just works against good players because no one in their right mind would do it in a million years. Being unpredictable can help you create some openings because people aren't prepared.
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Yeah but it will only work for you a handful of times. Statistically you will get clapped way more than you will clap. So yes, it might be funny and might win you that round here or there, but overall you will win less.
@@decreasify”🤓” ☝️🤓
@@HolyMithit’s something you can only do once a game. Once people know they need to be prepared for chaos it’s less effective. That being said let chaos reign
@@pattondinkins300 well said. A good player always has a bag of tricks they can draw from
The upper ranks are so used to people playing methodically, that rushes can take them off guard sometimes. It only really works once when you initially suprise them, but that one round can be enough to throw them for a good chunk of the game and might be able to push a win if done at the right time. I played college comp and my team lead loved throwing one rush round into each of the games we played. The vast majority of the time they worked and did some mental damage to the other team as well
Iron sights are for people with big TVs 😂😂
You messed up the castle strat obviously. It works when you have all 5 anchors
he needet to mute the castles
I kept trying to convince my team but they we're haters
@@Poxonloxyou should have played with friends.
@@Silverswitch1as a copper i can confirm that we're always solo q. That's why we're coppers!
@@Durex_DerFlexer1or block it with Azami every time they break it
And aruni it after the barriers break
And throw smoke's beauties when they throw their drones through aruni's gate. For the fifth one has chanka's chamikhas.
higher ranks are so keen on doin the same couple pushes on every map that when someone does something out of the ordinary ur like “why” us lower ranks got to find a way to be creative when we don’t have the mechanical edge, hence why some of these worked
The FMG-9 is an excellent weapon and i wish more defenders had access to it.
I only run FMG-9 on Smoke coz shotguns are annoying to use on console
(If you have bad aim that is)
@@justadummy8076They are always inconsistent tbh. They are way easier to use with a mouse though.
The Mp7 is literally better in every way
@@justadummy8076.....you can't run FMG-9 on any other defender...
I honestly don't see the appeal to a primary shotgun. Unless you dont have a secondary shotgun and have a machine pistol I don't get it.
This is actually a thing in so many different skill groups and hobbies that involves competition, the high ranks get so used to the same scenarios, that a weird thing from a low rank will temporarily throw them off their tempo
Back in the early days of siege, we used to castle our whole team into the freezer with the hostage and hide behind them.
This has been true in just about every competitive game I've ever played. It's kinda funny actually. The actual good players just get caught off but some of the "dumb shit" that goes down in low elo. It's just a different game half the time. Hell, as someone coming from Overwatch I've even seen high elo tactics that just get you trashed on in low ranks. It's one of my favorite things about competitive games.
Glad to see someone finally cover this. The reason it works is because it's just not what's expected, so it's big brain.
9:45 is not the true Amaru copper rush strat. For that you have the defuser and plant after going in hookah window, while you teammates flash and smoke you so no one can see what's going on
Nah planting amaru rush is more like high bronze. Coppers aren’t smart enough to try to plant. If they do. They don’t flash nor smoke
@@viktorvaughn8192nowaday me and my friends literally do this on plat 4 and win rounds easili, we do this every first attack round and we are always surprised that it actually works
@viktorvaughn8192 I'm copper yet I've rushed plant with Ying smoke/candela or gridlock smoke/trax many times before
@@viktorvaughn8192 no we do use it but ppl mainly use it by smoking and planting right at the entry point of the room where defenders will shoot since it's the entry point and then the planter will die
@@Kedilaa “we”
3:44
"To confuse your enemies, you must confuse yourself"
- Sun Tzu (Art of War)
I unironically love running the FMG on smoke. The thing is a laser, and has a 1.5x. Losing the utility of the shotty sucks, but god that thing just consumes heads.
5:20 since smoke lose his shield, him played as aggresive anchor (anchor outside the site and do short roam) with fmg-9 is actually not bad
I roam with shotgun and Mac-10
@@hasanalharaz7454 you mean smg 11?
I would love a limited time mode of iron sights only. Would be interesting
I always thought that the FMG-9 was a great SMG. Low recoil, decent damage with average mag size, it’s honestly not that bad considering Smoke has a professional Football players throwing arm it’s just as effective as using the Mossberg
Same thats why I got its black ice with a bravo ticket 2 or 3 seasons ago
Us coppers/silvers are cooking, my guy.
Yes sir
Let him cook
Let Em Kook
Bronze?
@@Toast14235 bronze is a so & so.
some strats are so good you need your enemies to actually be good at the game (like the iana bait) but sometimes you just need a strat that is so oblivious and dumb that no one will think about it
I knew I didn’t suck at the game! Thanks for the affirmation Pox!
Termite shotgun is badass
This reminds me of something my friend told me. He said that grand masters in chess hate playing against newbies because they have no strategy, so it's nearly impossible to predict what they might do.
If you don't know what your doing, your opponent can't know what your doing.
How could the enemy predict what im doing if i dont even know what im doing
Someone needs to teach these champs to also expect the unexpected
The thing that annoys me in high level play of any game is people settle into a meta and think nothing else works. I remember that time CS:GO players moved to a different gun because one dude went "hey wait a minute, this gun is really good" even though it hadn't changed for 3 years. I'm a fan of "play what you think is fun/cool and optimize that", even if it's not what high level players consider the best.
One of the reasons trap operators like frost and kapkan are so fun is that every tier of player plays differently. Plats fall for different frost mats than coppers, but diamonds sometimes fall for copper frost mats in the middle of hallways or rooms. And it's GREAT.
Also smurfing isn't cool. I appreciate that these dumb strats were used at high level play instead of some jerk playing against lower level or new players. I've seen so many people who are "copper" but they aim like pros, and it's just not healthy. Hope they implement a machine ID ban system or something.
Ahh, yes. the SG553/AUG meta. The gun has been really good for around a decade but people refuse to use it because of their fragile ego. Until valve reduce the price a bit, then it got nerfed and got their prices back up. Also the shotguns (esp the XM1014) is a good weapon since release but it finally got the attention in cs2.
I’m a copper and there’s a meme strat that I use all the time where we completely reinforce a small room that’s not the objective with castle barricades, mute, kaid, and sometimes a maestro for some fun and we don’t leave the room until we are the last ones remaining and we bust out and Rush objective
I have a strategy I made up myself called “the plop”. I play Valkyrie, place her cameras in very discrete places in rooms around the bombs where the enemy team is likely to breach, then run to a room where I can hide (preferably quite far away from the bomb site). I wait until the enemy team breaches and executes, and by that time I’ve flanked them and either killed all of them or miss all of my shots an die.
Cooper is the best rank because people are learning the game and trying things that higher ranks never would do. It adds variety to the game haha
The thing is that Coppers use the operators creatively. As people get better and move up they abandon the creativity for more "meta strats" when those are easily countered. While low skill on the fly thinking is the bane of high skill players
This is almost like when you have cases of new chess players either getting really close or outright beating masters and Grand Masters (not common, but there are a few documented cases). The whole reason why they end up winning is because these Masters and grandmasters are trained to recognize patterns and possible outcomes to said patterns. So when a beginner plays a move that they would have never expected anybody to play, or one that a computer wouldn't think is a good move, they just simply don't have the training to understand to recognize that specific pattern, and how to beat it
0:13 left me a bit confused
You suck so bad your good 😊
The Amaru rush has been named “OONGA BOONGA” and anytime we plan on using it we say “they’re not expecting it” and then proceed to get a supernova ace
The few “copper” ones I actually saw was thermite thru the window and dumb castle placement but the rest are just strats normal people do rather than “following” what champs do😭😭
Or just thinking it on their own y’all just close minded…
This is why gold is King and always will be, a perfect mix of map knowledge of fresh strategies compared to coppers getting lost in closets and champs holding the same pixel peak for the 7000th time in their career.
The real test of if the coppers are cooking is getting into a ranked game of just coppers
"If you have no idea what you're doing, how is the enemy supposed to know?"
Information is the most important thing in r6, if the enemy doesent know what the fck you're doing, you have a better chance of winning.
"The best swordsman in the world does not fear the second best, he fears the worst since there's no telling what that idiot is going to do."
A top tier copper strat I've seen is bot walking and hip firing while ignoring every callout, idk what it is about that one, but they always end up acing, no matter who stands in their way.
As far as smoke smg you just have to get an understanding of the enemy team and determine if it’s right it’s huge and certain maps to keep that distance yet maintain the ground by keeping em out with smokes
The solo attic rush on Oregon while the rest of the team is pushing big window is his tier
The ACS-12 is extreemly underrated and it should, at least, be tried
Acs black ice gives you god mode
I get hate for saying this, but ACS12 on alibi is infinitely better than mx4
no.
The thing with Copper strats is that no one expects them and so they have bo idea how to counter it
MUM! I made it on a Poxonlox video!!
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As a level 14 player, I was *flabberghasted* to figure put that my "expert level" plays I've been doing were considered bad 😤
The champs are the definition of the quote “they’re so smart, they’re dumb”
Copper 5 isn't rank, it's a lifestyle
I went on a deployment and came back to seige being a whole different game. Me amd my buddy were rocking strats from almost a year old. They were decimating the people that hadn't seen em in forever
@@Das_P-vq7kz 13th MEU
Honestly, most diamond+ players do the same shit day in day out and their brains are shrivelling up. But their mechanics and aim are cracked.
scientists have actually found some evidence pointing towards the possibility that a few individuals of the r6 population actually resides in the dirt ranks. That would make them the worst of the worst but there is still not sufficient evidence to prove this hypothesis.
There’s is only one place that the castle strat works bedroom bathroom skyscraper but you need to have a solid roamer watching vertical and set sight up right. Also not saying it’s a solid strategy but when my buddy keeps running the Amaru shotgun rush I’ve been playing dokkaebi to cover the sound and it’s been working weirdly well on the place that you thermite jumped in on border.
Tbh barricading yourself in freezer is an amazing start when you run it with Cav, and proxy alarms, set them up on either a door or window 2 tap your barricade wait for one to go off and silent step up behind them get the knock and interrogate literally has never failed me not once
I feel wrong now because I'm a high plat using some of these strats lol
I’m a professional copper 5 and here are my 2 simple (almost) fool proof kapkan strats: place your mines on the side of doorways opposite to where people look in from when entering. People will look into the big area of the room to check for enemies and not off to the other side of the door and thus walking straight into the trap. The opposite strat is putting a mine at the exact same level as another on the same doorway. Players who are observant will shoot one, thinking it’s safe but behold: the other trap is there waiting. Best if paired with a barricade so they get even more distracted.
As a gold/plat player I play with champs sometimes and most of 2023 "champs" are just so used to the same pushes and reinforcments/defenses that they don't know the game mechanics, they just know the strats everyone do and where to go to counter or play them relying on the usual timing and of course their aim.
I am copper and I feel like for me my problem is team mates, I have no friends so I have to solo Q and it’s mind numbing to watch my teammates loose so badly and do so dumb of things even if I’m carrying 8-2
I'm having the same problem on ps4. Its incredibly frustrating especially when I get qued with trolls who team kill.
yeah thats why most of us are hard stuck low bronze/copper. bad teammates
console or pc?
@@DaloWrld pc
@@Gelos.i would like to play with you guys. Im Platin 5 on Ps4 but any other mate who knows the game a bit is better than solo q
7:20 you see you did it when the site wasn’t there
Smoke fmg-9 I actually use, great gun and 1.5x but smoke then doesn’t have anything for soft walls
one of the first! I'm subscribed and always enjoyed your in-depth guides and great tips in the middle of just random analyzing of clips
thanks man
I think that you burn yourself out in the game in terms of actual fun with strategies, copper and silver you do “dumb” or weird strats that make for fun and memorable game moments but if you prioritize that then you can’t really get into those higher ranks, champ and diamonds literally sweat all day just for mmr and it stresses you out and makes your brain not want to be as creative with your next round, just mozzie roni headshots for the win. It ruins the fun.
Love this. Most higher ranks just go off about how bad the copper is after dying to said copper. Ok, so their strat doesn't snuggle up inside your current meta. Isn't it way smarter to do something your opponent doesn't expect? I crack up every time I hear an upper rank say something along the lines of, "Why would you walk in there? You're such trash," right after dying 🤣
unpredictability is your greatest wepon, it is in everything, I'm a fencing and its harder to fence noobs than it is someone at your own skill level because you never know what their going to do
4:15 caveat
This is my clip I submitted, but the replay system bugged out showing attachments. I had the 1.5x, flash hider, and vert grip.
I just started r6 a few days ago and my strat with ela is just throw prox mines in areas where I believe someone would enter, basically like kapkan except I can place kapkans everywhere(but instead with the intent to kill them, it helps me figure out where enemies are
This is literally just, "The best swordsman does not fear the second best, he fears the worst because he does not know what he will do"
“Shamefully equipping the FMG9” man that hurt my soul. I rarely use shotguns because they’re inconsistent and end up screwing me
Many of the players in copper-gold mainly because they don't have enough time to practice shooting but strats either they have or they're reverse thinking the champ players lol
That oregon basement reinforced elbow with 2 cam blockers killed me 😂😂😂😂
I'm copper and my whole success is based on me doing what I would least expect if I was the enemy
Zero + fuze : accurate bombing (I have no idea if it will work on champ but. İt works on cooper. Except flanks)
I stille remember whenhostage was in the freezing of cafe so me and my freinds would just baricad are slefs in with a tatchanka and if they threw a grenade it killed the hostage so they couldent do anything
Apparently you can use any strat so long as your aim is better than the opponenets
The thing about being so smart and knowledgeable about the game is that you expect your enemy to be the same way and use your similar tactics. Nobody expects you to break in THAT window, nobody expects you to pick THAT op, nobody expects you to peek THAT angle. And so you surprise them.
kaid/goyo's shotgun is also a good pick due to its long range, kaid is more preferred because of his pistol though
Classic example of "if I don't know what I'm doing, the enemy doesn't know either."
I think the reason we use the smg on smoke Is because, speaking as a copper one Xbox player, I really can’t control the recoil of the smg-11, so it’s nice to have that and a 1.5
1:23 made me laugh so hard
“I am a surgeon” ahh voice 😭😭
I always tell new player and people who aren't confident "if you can't outsmart them you gotta outstupid them"
well, there is bunch of strategies and most best players always forget that they might misunderstand plan of the enemies - and that's why those "stupid" straegies might work as well agains champions.
And yes, I'm copper :D
Underrated copper strat play castle as a roamer and castle off all doors upstairs and make your own rotates for them too push
Been saying it for years copper is the equivalent of plat, everything in between is trash.
If you know the strategy, then you should always go directly against it. Why push that angle and die when you could flank from a spot no one has ever used?
I have never watched a video because of a short but that was actually an interesting premise so here I am
I just want some feedback of this trick I rarely use: after barricading a door, I would break the bottom planks so if someone try’s to break it they have to show their feet but vaulting it or breaking it entirely and shoe they’re entire body.
init a classic ?
Bruh I swear the dumbest plays work because experienced players never expect such a bad play that it just catches them off guard
I think something I had to happen is champions take the copper strats and refine them because the copper strats are really really good but they just aren't refined enough to where they don't work as often but if the cop champions were to refine them a little bit it would be amazing
Thermiting a window is actually brilliant. Players rely on sound cues and hearing the Thermite makes them look at walls that are about to be breached, not windows. The sound directs them away from where you are. No sane human being is going to hear thermite and go "well he's coming through the window"
Back when I played, I always end up getting stuck in Copper and bronze cuz I would always end up fucking up one too many times and then once I got that rank it was damn near impossible to get out because as we all know, your teammates can never fucking aim or understand the basics of using the sound design to their advantage to listen to where their opponents are and what they're doing...
I think it has alot to do with the WTF factor. The being confronted with a strat they dont know of or didn't think youd run throws them off enough to cost em the round
I think what people don’t understand is that when normal people fail, and ask what they could improve, the first thing you think is the choices you made. So coppers who have bad aim and bad game sense actually think about their strats more
I don’t play ranked at all and haven’t since 2020. But from this video and my own time playing. Everyone uses the same strats so when random ass stuff happens like in quick play those champions are baffled beyond belief. (I never made it passed silver in 2019)
Im in copper and just lost a game because someone was just destroying team gadgets and doing nothing else
Not of my favorite strats is the crouch hole sheild strat. Where you play Tachanka and place a deployable sheild on a crouch hole and you can okay it like a Mira and it works sometimes try it.
Alot of these are old and effective strategies, feels good to know they still kinda works
Standing in Copper 3 I’m happy to see someone do these
Actually when coppers play amaru they hop strait into site and use her AR
"Professionals are predictable, but the world is full of dangerous amateurs"
I solo Q as a gold player, but I just get stuck in copper for the longest time bc I can’t read other coppers minds. They’re unpredictable. I’ll be saying “there’s no way even a copper would rush site immediately”, but then they do and they kill half my team; including me.
It’s like higher rank competent fighting game players losing to people just mashing buttons.